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Glad you sorted it chaps 
Wish others could do the same rather than bicker and bore us stupid 
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#441 29 Aug 2020 at 12.18pm | | |
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Misunderstanding sorted
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#440 29 Aug 2020 at 12.11pm | | |
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Hi Jon, accept my apologies, that’s why I asked the question. Did seem strange, to me anyway
Totally agree
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#439 29 Aug 2020 at 9.52am | | |
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Scozza, you haven't understood my post.
The people who fought in WWII were good people. They were brave. They put themselves in danger to help others. I think their actions were admirable.
These same traits - empathy, altruism, generosity etc are often, today, seen as something to be sneered at. I think sneering at good people is bad.
Clearer?
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#438 29 Aug 2020 at 9.11am | | |
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#437 29 Aug 2020 at 8.56am | | |
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 Or because you’re too scared to answer the rest of posts because it might challenge your opinions.
I guess we should be glad America and Russia went to war otherwise we’d be speaking German eh!
Freedom and equality are part and parcel. You can’t be free without equality and you can’t be equal without freedom. Not truly anyway.
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#436 29 Aug 2020 at 8.34am | | |
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I only replied to the small part of the post because I wanted clarification on his meaning. Same as I do with yours.
Once again you are talking ****. Go and read Wikipedia about WW2, right up your street, think economics. I bet your one that edits it aren’t you 
Stop trying to turn my reply around to suit your stupid claims of equality 
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#435 29 Aug 2020 at 8.22am | | |
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Oh, so fighting to stop a regime taking over the world isn’t about people being able to live freely and not being persecuted and killed for their beliefs and nationalities. You know, having the equal ability to not be ruled by Hitler and to be free.
Guess if you ask a question you only want one person to answer then probably don’t put it on a public forum
Edit - funny how you still only reply to small parts of a post...be fun if you gave responding to all of a post a go for once
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#434 29 Aug 2020 at 8.11am | | |
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Nobody has blown their top. I asked a question. And not to you.
And World War Two was about defeating a dictator who wanted to rule the world with his own ideology. Nothing to do with the reasons you mention, equality. They were defending themselves. World war 2, the equality war 
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#433 29 Aug 2020 at 7.43am | | |
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Depends on the war doesn’t it and the need to fight. Suppose if you don’t agree with it then you have the right to refuse. Just like everything else.
Think you’ve blown a top unnecessarily over a comment that does actually make sense. People fighting in WW2 were fighting for equality and the cessation of persecution of a particular people. Something people seem to condemn as “lefty” and “snowflake” attitudes now. 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Imagine the outrage from the world if Germans said they wanted to keep a statue of hitler because he was a big part of the history of the country and they shouldn’t hide their past
Huge leap from being a part of a country means you HAVE to fight for it...in a hypothetical war...but you can’t dislike any tiny part of it because that means you’re not part of the country. Don’t tell me you’ve never complained about Britain in one form or another
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#432 29 Aug 2020 at 6.19am | | |
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Nice to know we all have our own books
As I suspected then. A load of nonsense really, could be wrong?
You wouldn’t say that if it was your child who was forced to go to war to defend our country against a dictator who wanted to rule the world would you?
Not to mention the millions and millions of innocent people that got killed as a consequence of the dictator
You are right about one thing though, if we had to do it all over again their would be loads in our country that would refuse to go to war because it was against their religious believes or they just like the peace, in the bubble they live in. I can see it now, nice old Mr. Hitler knocking on their door. The social justice warrior or would they be classed as cowards? They used to shoot deserters in the war
Now that’s whats wrong for me, if your part of the country you should be prepared to fight for the country. Otherwise your not really part of the country are you? Like a lot of people on here and in our society who like to try and just pick the bits they like and resent anything else they dont 
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#431 28 Aug 2020 at 10.31pm | | |
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#430 28 Aug 2020 at 9.58pm | | |
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I've no idea why it is, but it often seems that anyone who shows compassion or sympathy, anyone who puts themselves out for the sake of others, anyone who doesn't put themselves and their own interests first, is derided as 'woke', a 'social justice warrior' or a 'do gooder' these days in the UK. Therefore, going off to fight to liberate a load of foreigners would, nowadays, be seen as laughable by a large section of society.
In my book it's just decent behaviour, and anyone who uses 'do-gooder' as an insult needs to take a look at themselves.
But we've all got our own books ...
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#429 28 Aug 2020 at 8.57pm | | |
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If WWII were repeated you'd be down the docks calling the troops leaving to fight the Nazis 'do gooders
Lost me there Jon, why is that?
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#428 28 Aug 2020 at 8.45pm | | |
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I’m not fed up of it... only money we got to improve the environment was forced on us by the EU. UK government never supplemented it like other countries.
That’s the scariest thing going forward, the EU forced us to do good by the environment..some has been written in to UK law initially, to be changed at a later date, a lot hasn’t.
I was just asking for a friend who isn’t a hardcore patriot but doesn’t like the EU.
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