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There is definitely something fishy going on , but it seems beyond belief , what is the real reason , that we the UK are doing so well with the vaccine and leaving them behind they then feel the need to condemn the vaccine as unsafe , when its as safe as the phyzer vaccine ? maybe even condemning their countries to further lockdowns , could they be this petty !
Or do they know something we don't , i have zero trust in our lot !
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#2422 17 Mar 2021 at 8.01am | | |
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#2421 16 Mar 2021 at 10.09pm | | |
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Just a thought. If law and order is so important, then those who enforce that law and order must apply the very same. They cannot exercise their functions outside those laws. They cannot operate outside of common law.
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#2420 16 Mar 2021 at 8.11pm | | |
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No idea, you'd have to ask the judge if that day ever happened
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#2419 16 Mar 2021 at 7.50pm | | |
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Same as Jon, fight fire with fire for me 
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#2418 16 Mar 2021 at 7.48pm | | |
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I thought there was something strange 
Didn’t bite either, ah well, least I tried 
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#2417 16 Mar 2021 at 7.00pm | | |
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#2416 16 Mar 2021 at 6.31pm | | |
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I don't remember similar levels of outrage when the 'football lads' were out 'statue guarding' with their defensive swastika tattoos and their protective monkey chants.
I think I even remember someone suggesting the poor lad pissing on the memorial to a dead copper probably didn't know what it was.
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#2415 16 Mar 2021 at 6.24pm | | |
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In reply to Post #2414
He had help from a Year 10
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#2414 16 Mar 2021 at 6.03pm | | |
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Surprisingly I agree with quite a bit of that Mal, well written too
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#2413 16 Mar 2021 at 5.59pm | | |
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It is very sad what has happened and this has now moved away from the initial vigil and is now a beast for the usual suspects to attack society, the government and Police on.
Exactly that for me too 
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#2412 16 Mar 2021 at 5.55pm | | |
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Responding to a few at once.
Never once suggested that rioting was justified. It isn't. My understanding is that breaking of covid rules carries a fine. Not water cannons or being set fire to / punched in the teeth.... I've always said that those who break the rules should be prosecuted. No change there. The police are entrusted to preserve order - not to escalate violence.
I'd argue that 'bringing back police brutality' is talking bollox, but each to their own. Some people might argue that it never really went away.
I outlined a number of factors that made it simple enough (to anyone with a bit of sense) to see that given the circumstances and the involvement of the Met police, it was not surprising that the event turned sour. They (and the original organisers - who subsequently called for the event to be called off) were asked by the high court to try and find a solution to a covid safe vigil and didn't. Then they were tasked under ridiculous conditions to police it. Red rag to a bull.
And perfect for the wider agenda of curtailing protest rights. As said, thrown under the bus by Boris/ Patel.
Never once suggested that because 1 met officer is charged with murder that they all are. But again, if you can't see that as being important in the lead up to what happened then .....
As for the sentencing for rape and for vandalising statues, yes one is a minimum and one a maximum. Out of interest, which statue is worth double even the most minor (in the legal systems hierarchy) sexual assault? Just wondering.
Jon - absolutely agree. Some of the stuff on here has been embarrassing.
Edit - fishie, also agree. It's clearly been the case at too many rally's / protests for a long time. Used to be the same at football with the rent a mobs using it as a vehicle to facilitate their stupid violent tendencies. Now it's organised demonstrations.
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#2411 16 Mar 2021 at 5.31pm | | |
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It is very sad what has happened and this has now moved away from the initial vigil and is now a beast for the usual suspects to attack society, the government and Police on.
i have attended numerous marches before lockdown and it is easy to spot the usual suspects but why would someone attend a peaceful vigil with spray paint and a weapon to smash glass.
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#2410 16 Mar 2021 at 5.06pm | | |
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Very sad what has happened and these behaviours just tarnish it
I guess the lockdown is causing a lot of frustration and unrest for people but thats where an element of self control and discipline is required. People just think they can take to the streets have a riot and inflict pain on other people, like I said, disgraceful behaviour for me. How's about smack each one in the teeth and see if they like it!
Like I also said, they should have rounded them all up, took their pictures and sent them to their employers then they can see what kind of characters they have working for them, that’s after a £5000 fine, muppets
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#2409 16 Mar 2021 at 5.00pm | | |
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In reply to Post #2408
neither can I 
Brief prece shouting in police officers faces from 2 foot away during pandemic, spraying ACAB on police carriers, smashing wing mirror of said carrier and large crowd being lead by agitators from the bandstand shouting over floral tributes "no justice no peace **** the police!"
Funny i haven't seen any of that footage on mainstream news outlets.
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