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   Old Thread  #944 1 Oct 2020 at 9.16am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Best leave it for the clever people eh
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   Old Thread  #943 1 Oct 2020 at 9.13am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Triggered

Ken’s post that the TRUE Joe conservative lives with a load of **** and then says ‘oh well at least i have freedom’ doesn’t show anything but your defeatist attitude and proves my point. But you’re too caught up in being a sheep to see that aren’t you.

Without people driving for change civilisation as it is today wouldn’t exist. No medicines, no laws, no freedoms...

You’re right, you do need help...you’re defeatist attitude has already tied the noose, just need someone to kick the stool, I hear Boris is keen
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   Old Thread  #942 1 Oct 2020 at 8.12am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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What a dip **** you are

The point where, there will always be a counter argument to the **** that idiots like you preach

One word to describe you. Narcissistic

Need some help
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   Old Thread  #941 1 Oct 2020 at 8.02am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Including rape, murder and paedophilia?

Sicko
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   Old Thread  #940 1 Oct 2020 at 7.55am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I think you missed Kens point. Google is a magical thing, for every wrong you will find a right
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   Old Thread  #939 1 Oct 2020 at 7.55am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Remind me again why the defeatist attitude you have is the best way? Because nothing you’re proud of would exist if everyone followed your advice
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   Old Thread  #938 1 Oct 2020 at 7.53am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Think you missed the point, following yesterday’s discussion it is making the point that the “just accept it and crack on” attitude gets us nowhere and the things people are proud of in this country have come about because people have stood up and demanded change. We wouldn’t have them if everyone conformed to the defeatist attitude.

Also the examples in your post are so out of date and out of touch it’s barely relevant anymore. Kids working at 12 - illegal, having to pay for PPE out your own pocket - breaches many laws, working hour regulations, sexual harassment laws, missing prayer time means you’re fired?
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   Old Thread  #937 1 Oct 2020 at 7.51am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Who is that then G?
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   Old Thread  #936 1 Oct 2020 at 7.49am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The person who was going to reset it .
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Capitalism needs re setting as the Financial times stated last year , it has become too corrupted and is now a negative in it's current form to the majority !
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   Old Thread  #934 1 Oct 2020 at 7.48am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Joe agrees: “We don’t need those big-government socialists ruining our lives! After all, I’m a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have.”

To quote from below

Sometimes you need to know your limitations. Only so much an individual can influence. Governments deal with politics, remind me again who you voted for?

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   Old Thread  #933 1 Oct 2020 at 7.31am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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We can all copy and paste.

By the way this is years old and from an American political website just proving there are arguments on both sides so in fact to have two sides proves nothing will ever be accomplished.


A Day in the Life of a True Conservative
Joe Conservative wakes up in the morning and goes to the bathroom. He flushes his toilet and brushes his teeth, mindful that each flush & brush costs him about 43 cents to his privatized water provider. His wacky, liberal neighbor keeps badgering the company to disclose how clean and safe their water is, but no one ever finds out. Just to be safe, Joe Conservative boils his drinking water.

Joe steps outside and coughs–the pollution is especially bad today, but the smokiest cars are the cheapest ones, so everyone buys ‘em. Joe Conservative checks to make sure he has enough toll money for the 3 different private roads he must drive to work. There is no public transportation, so traffic is backed up and his 10 mile commute takes an hour.

On the way, he drops his 12 year old daughter off at the clothing factory she works at. Paying for kids to go to private school until they’re 18 is a luxury, and Joe needs the extra income coming in. Times are hard and there’re no social safety nets.

He gets to work 5 minutes late and misses the call for Christian prayer, and is immediately docked by his employer. He is not feeling well today, but has no health insurance, since neither his employer nor his government provide it, and paying for it himself is really expensive, since he has a precondition. He just hopes for the best.

Joe’s workday is 12 hours long, because there is no regulation over working hours, and Joe will lose his job if he complains or unionizes. Today is an especially bad day. Joe’s manager demands that he work until midnight, a 16 hour day. Joe does, knowing that he’ll lose his job if he does not.

Finally, after midnight, Joe gets to pick up his daughter and go home. His daughter shows him the deep cut she got on the industrial sewing machine today. Joe is outraged and asks why she doesn’t have metal mesh gloves or other protection. She says the company will not provide it and she’ll have to pay for it out of her own pocket. Joe looks at the wound and decides they’ll use an over the counter disinfectant and bandages until it heals. She’ll have a scar, but getting stitches at the emergency room is expensive.

His daughter also complains that the manager made suggestive overtures towards her. Joe counsels her to be a “good girl” and not rock the boat, or she’ll get fired and they’ll be out the income.

His daughter says she can’t wait until she’s 18 so she can vote for change or go to the Iraq War.

They get home and there’s a message from his elderly father who can’t afford to pay his medical or heating bills. Joe can hear him coughing and shivering.

Joe turns on the radio and the top story is a proposal in Congress to raise the voting age to 25. A rare liberal opinionator states that it’s an attempt to keep power out of the hands of working class Americans. The conservative host immediately quashes him, calling him “a utopian idealist,” and agreeing that people aren’t mature enough to make good choices until they’re at least 25.

Joe chuckles at the wine-swilling, cheese eating liberal egghead and thinks, “Thank God I live in America where I have freedom!”
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   Old Thread  #932 1 Oct 2020 at 6.22am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
A DAY IN THE LIFE OF JOE CONSERVATIVE
Joe gets up for work and fills his kettle with water to prepare his morning tea. The water is clean because some tree-hugger fought for minimum water-quality standards.

With his first swig, he takes his daily medication. His medicine is safe to take, because some stupid commie fought to ensure their safety and that they work as advertised.

He prepares his bacon and eggs. Joe’s bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meatpacking industry.

In his morning shower, Joe reaches for the shampoo. His bottle is labelled with each ingredient because some crybaby fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained.

Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air.

Joe drives to work in a safe regulated car because meddling do-gooders fought for more safety features and standards.

Joe begins his workday. He has a good job with excellent pay, pension, paternity leave, paid holidays and sick pay because some union layabouts fought and died for these working standards.

Joe hurts himself at work and an ambulance takes him to A&E. He receives free-at-the-point-of-use treatment thanks to some bloody interfering trots who decided to create a National Health Service.

Joe gets home and relaxes by listening to the radio. The host reminds everyone that socialists are dangerous and conservatives are trustworthy. He never mentions that the Conservatives have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoyed throughout his day.

Joe agrees: “We don’t need those big-government socialists ruining our lives! After all, I’m a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have.”

Joe lives in blissful ignorance.
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   Old Thread  #931 30 Sept 2020 at 8.36pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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My handicap is the 19th hole

Nice to see you back

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   Old Thread  #930 30 Sept 2020 at 8.33pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I was going to ask what your handicap was but we don't want another huge list that takes you two posts to complete...

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