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   Old Thread  #1103 26 Oct 2020 at 0.18am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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https://breakthematrix.com/blog/breaking-raw-video-of-livestreamed-mosque-shooting-9-dead-2nd-mosque-attack-reported-shortly-afterwards-developing/


Proof Christchurch mosque shooting video is fake.
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   Old Thread  #1101 25 Oct 2020 at 9.34pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I pop and lock my way to the bar for the first round and a pack of kp
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   Old Thread  #1100 25 Oct 2020 at 9.13pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Not if you're going to dance after two pints
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   Old Thread  #1099 25 Oct 2020 at 7.41pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Wanna come out for a pint next Friday, I’m usually fighting em off with a stick
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   Old Thread  #1097 25 Oct 2020 at 7.03pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I had to google it
Noj's video
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   Old Thread  #1096 25 Oct 2020 at 6.36pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I wish i knew what that meant 🤔
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   Old Thread  #1095 25 Oct 2020 at 6.02pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I’ve heard the pop and lock casting method you use is the reason you can whip a 2oz lead on a waggler rod 310yds
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   Old Thread  #1094 25 Oct 2020 at 5.28pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I was pop and lock main instructor and the local community centre
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   Old Thread  #1093 25 Oct 2020 at 5.23pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I’m betting noj attended said workshops...I met him once and he was dressed like Jessie from breaking bad 🤟
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   Old Thread  #1092 25 Oct 2020 at 5.20pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Rubbish

What a shower of *****

The very reason I will never, ever vote for the conservatives, ****s

And when that thick **** BJ comes up smelling of roses after all this crap. It could be a perfect opportunity to sell off the NHS
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   Old Thread  #1091 25 Oct 2020 at 5.17pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You know me mate, a world without street dance is not a world I want to be in
But to be fair a get together in the local town hall on a Wednesday is as far removed from street as you can get lol
don’t get me started on political exploitation of a culture spawned from government negligence
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   Old Thread  #1090 25 Oct 2020 at 5.04pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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But those street dance workshops spawned a generation who can pull out a robot / moonwalk / worm at a wedding disco to delight the crowds so money well spent there eh?
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   Old Thread  #1089 25 Oct 2020 at 3.27pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The ones you've listed were just our services that got sold down the river for unearned income/shareholder profits. The big high tech, future money high quality job industries get snaffled up and off shored all the time. British short termism to cash out is a well known affliction to the detriment of UK PLC as a whole. That's where the government have failed, they can block any deal. But as we've elected the most free market gang of MP's in memory ( whilst the rest of the world turns in on itself with more and more protectionism) you get what you voted for.
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   Old Thread  #1088 25 Oct 2020 at 3.07pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Local councils sold BT, water, electricity, railways, etc ??
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   Old Thread  #1087 25 Oct 2020 at 2.15pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Rather than actually selling them and distributing/pocketing the proceeds, didn’t they just allow local councils to sell them off and use the funds to balance their books?
Those unnecessary road works, pedestrian area ‘upgrades’ and street dance workshops don’t pay for themselves!
Development of the buildings sold off may have made a few of the wink wink nudge nudge brigade miwwions, but it also kept the families of the labour fed.... every cloud
It’s just a way to wash the money, it still goes back to the man but with a few skims on the way
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   Old Thread  #1086 25 Oct 2020 at 2.05pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Imagine if for once you provided any evidence to your wild claims
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   Old Thread  #1085 25 Oct 2020 at 11.45am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No but guess who sold off all the countries assets... those good old Tories

Sure that was part of being in the E.U......
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   Old Thread  #1084 25 Oct 2020 at 11.21am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The more I read of this the more dumb I felt!

Good job I don't teach economics...

Did get me thinking though. Are we on a slippery slope? My basic (very) understanding of QE is that, as more money is released into the system, the overall value of the individual parts (let's say a 5 pound note as an example) is decreased. Money has value because of its scarcity. So more bits of money about devalues all of it. (I realise it's less of a physical process now and more numbers on screens)

So... this in mind, if I had £1000 savings in January, ignoring interest etc., it's now worth less due to QE. Now this is the same for everyone, so we don't necessarily notice until it comes to trade etc.

Then I started to think about Germany and hyperinflation and those 50,000 mark notes that were worth less than the paper they were printed on (slight exaggeration there). Are we headed that way?

God my brain hurts now. It was much simpler when banking was just my little tsb school bank paying in book...
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   Old Thread  #1083 25 Oct 2020 at 11.11am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Like the analogy

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   Old Thread  #1082 25 Oct 2020 at 10.53am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Previous government's have been pilloried for borrowing, after world events turned against the UK. Didn't fix the roof when the sun was shining was a favorite phrase. Well it's been a decade to fix that roof and its pissing in more than ever now the sun's not shining.
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   Old Thread  #1081 25 Oct 2020 at 9.59am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Agree

Maybe we should call our debts in from Europe too. Quite a few years ago now I read we were owed trillions!
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   Old Thread  #1080 25 Oct 2020 at 9.57am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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On a side note, I love what the Geordie footy fans have done in protest to sky charging 15 quid to watch pay per view. Thousands raised for food banks instead of lining the pockets of big business

Only just seen this so had a google, 20k to charity instead of supporting another Sky rip off, brilliant

Must admit I was tempted to pay for the game last night but then refused for these exact reasons
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   Old Thread  #1079 25 Oct 2020 at 9.56am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Should we really have to borrow anything

No but guess who sold off all the countries assets... those good old Tories.
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   Old Thread  #1078 25 Oct 2020 at 9.51am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Google is a magical source lol. I guess the BBC is more credible?

We won't know how big the final bill will be until after the crisis is over. But the government will certainly have to borrow enormous amounts of money.

According to the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR), which keeps tabs on government spending, the government would have to borrow £372bn for the current financial year (April 2020 to April 2021).
And that's before the cost of new lockdowns and support measures announced in the autumn are considered.

To put it into context: before the crisis, the government was expecting to borrow about £55bn for the whole financial year, but it has already borrowed £208.5bn so far this year.


And they key point is, what could they have done with all these billions

Should we really have to borrow anything
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   Old Thread  #1077 25 Oct 2020 at 9.08am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
What debt?

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Some of them are good ideas though Noj......

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For some perspective, that 80k the MPs earn (which isn’t actually that much, some people on here will earn that) is a few days for some footballers.
Maybe it’s time to legalise recreational drugs and use the tax revenue for good?
And let booze related a&e admissions rot in the gutter to free up funds?
Stop landlords profiting from the council properties they paid a pittance for from the government, only to then charge over inflated rent to the parents of these hungry kids through their housing benefit?
Execute lifers in jail?
Relocate prisons to remote Self sustainable islands, no farming no food.
I’m full of controversial money making ideas.
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   Old Thread  #1074 25 Oct 2020 at 8.47am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I think they have painted themselves into a corner over it. Only option now is another climb down so it's now hungry kids vs saving face and we know how that will pan out...

Agree about the huge debt post furlough etc. But given the tiny percentage that the cost of providing the fsm would equate to (0.05 per cent is a figure I heard quoted) and the easy comparisons with money pumped into pubs and greekski's example of mp meal subsidies it just rankles. If the Scots, the Irish and the Welsh can do it then there's no good reason why it can't happen in England too.

On a side note, I love what the Geordie footy fans have done in protest to sky charging 15 quid to watch pay per view. Thousands raised for food banks instead of lining the pockets of big business
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   Old Thread  #1073 25 Oct 2020 at 6.35am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Lot of sense there Mal

See my last comments about Rashford. I said since he is leading it and donating to it, not just talking about it like people on here, respect to the lad

Let’s not forget all the trillions been pumped into Furloughs to save jobs here. The trillions that will have to be paid back, and you know where that will come from.

Even more debt!

As for painting his Jet, I can understand the image and frustrations but that’s another stupid counter claim. Let’s hope he doesn’t get a new car ffs!

You see, ultimately there’s a pot of cash to run this country on, now you can divide that wherever you like but there has to be hard decisions along the line somewhere and these are based on items that nobody on here has got a clue about. Hence if we pumped money into every charity going we would be no different to any business, bankrupt!!!

Charity = fund rasing

Like I said initially though, sounds like a viable cause to me. I used to get free school dinners because we had **** all
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   Old Thread  #1072 24 Oct 2020 at 11.54pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Agreed.

Henry said something in the covid thread a while back about how there was a sense of coming together at the start of lockdown. But after a while people revert to type and the selfish and ignorant go back to what works for them because that's who really matters to them....

From applauding NHS staff to shops not letting them in if they are wearing uniform.

From looking out for each other to looking after number one.

Didn't take too long did it?
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   Old Thread  #1071 24 Oct 2020 at 10.48pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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But that is linked to empathy and awareness which is in short supply in this government

Sadly not just in the government. Plenty of the general public lack both too.
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   Old Thread  #1070 24 Oct 2020 at 10.28pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Whilst I obviously live to read your regular arguments it's hard not to pitch in with a couple of things...

Rashford seems a sensible lad who probably knows that there is far greater impact in his campaign for government change than him simply donating his wages. Give a man a fish etc...

He's spoken about his own mum and how she struggled with food poverty when he was a lad so it matters to him.

Government action in terms of covid restrictions have pushed an extra million kids' families into food poverty. They have a responsibility to do something about it. The devolved leaders have all committed to provision of fsm through holidays until next year (yes, they've taken account of Christmas already unlike johnson and his disgraceful mob). I posted in the summer about the amount of meals they could provide by simply diverting the cost of painting his private jumbo jet. And he dares to say 'we are all in this together'

Scozza, back a while I pushed you on your passion for tackling homelessness and suggested you give to charity to which you responded that you don't - because you pay your taxes. Multi million pound earning footballers also pay their taxes. A lot more than you or I. ... so the term hypocrite for the lad is harsh given your own approach.

In a supposedly civilised wealthy country, children shouldn't be going to bed hungry and mum's shouldn't be choosing between eating themself or feeding their kids.

Johnson and every mp who voted against this (because it was raised by labour by any chance?) should be ashamed. But that is linked to empathy and awareness which is in short supply in this government
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   Old Thread  #1069 24 Oct 2020 at 9.59pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Let’s hope you get the votes one day
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   Old Thread  #1068 24 Oct 2020 at 9.43pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I don’t see how redistributing public money is flawed? Because as you said my idea is hypothetical?? well duh... ideas are hypothetical until implemented, because they don’t exist until they are actioned. That isn’t a flaw, it’s a fact.

Providing for hungry children instead of well off adults is only flawed if you want children to go hungry.
Feed them in the short term whilst investing in sectors, industries and education so the parents can provide in the future. No point doing just the one, have to do both.
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   Old Thread  #1067 24 Oct 2020 at 9.33pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Imagine if everybody did

Not everybody thinks the same as you

Don’t want to sound disrespectful but your argument is flawed. Take money of MPs to pay for kids dinners, mmmmmm, sounds good, it’s purely hypothetical

What should we do, pay everybody a flat 30k a year, or should that be 10k, we’re moving into the relms of communism here!

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Yeah. If I was earning a minimum of £79k a year (excluding any external income), I’d be more than happy to donate money for one or more worthy causes. Thing is, it’s not their salary they would be giving up. It’s their expenses. They have enough money to feed themselves. Imagine if they all chucked in once a week their £25 of taxpayers money to go to fairshare.... all 650 of them. I’m sure they could do without it.
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Don’t disagree with you on that. But that’s all part of their package. I’m not defending them, I think they are a bunch of ****s but using your analogy, would you give up some of your salary?

And if he has, respect to the lad, he is a man of his words
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   Old Thread  #1064 24 Oct 2020 at 9.19pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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He has done? Really should research before making your incorrect assumptions. He donated a large sum to fairshare and has supported them greatly. Considering £100,000 can provide 400,000 meals (according to fairshare) an MPs £25 a night food allowance could provide 100 meals a night for hungry children. See where I’m going with this? The same people that earn significant sums of money as a MINIMUM when you exclude external incomes, voted no to feeding hungry children (all 322 of them), could actually provide, if they put their £25 allowance a night to the cause for one night a week, 32,200 meals.

I mean if you don’t think that’s ****ed up...
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   Old Thread  #1063 24 Oct 2020 at 9.09pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You raise a valid point about MPs wages, maybe you should review those when you get in

Lets take a step back to Rashford shall we, and this is what pisses me off. Same with a lot of people the same, don’t come banging a drum unless you are doing something about it yourself. He is a millionaire footballer, if he was so ****ing interested he would be paying a wad himself, hows that?

And like I said below, if he is, good on the lad, he is a man of his word, respect, and if he is not he’s another ****ing hypocrite
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   Old Thread  #1062 24 Oct 2020 at 9.02pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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If people are paying their taxes they are abiding by the laws of the country, job done. Now if you have a problem with rich people, you need to deal with it? When did I say I had a problem with rich people? Oh, I forgot you brain is damaged isn’t it and doesn’t work properly.

I have a problem with rich people using public money to feed themselves and home themselves when there are starving children and homeless people in the country. I’d say that’s quite a reasonable thing to have a problem with. Let’s put it in to context... average salary in Britain is 29k, MP salary is 79k. Yet the taxes of someone earning annually 2.5x less than an MP has to pay for an MPs food bill. Yet there are hungry children out there which MPs (who get your money to pay for their food) just decided aren’t worthy of having public money to be fed.

Think you need to get seen to, plenty of good doctors out there, probably none good enough to put a stop to your embarrassing memory loss and very incorrectly assuming ramblings though.
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   Old Thread  #1061 24 Oct 2020 at 8.57pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Massive task running and funding this country. Too big for daydreamers anyway.

Maybe we should start doing highway robberies on the rich to top up the charity pot?

If people are paying their taxes they are abiding by the laws of the country, job done. Now if you have a problem with rich people, you need to deal with it?

Now if it’s illegal, that’s a completely different matter. I was very proud the other week when the drug dealer got all his assets stripped off him, more of the same please, just disappointed he didn’t get sent down too?

Where should start, large corporate tax fiddles, I’m all for it
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   Old Thread  #1060 24 Oct 2020 at 8.40pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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How do you know what I give/do for charity? Are you stalking me? Is that how infatuated with me you are Not quite sure who “people like me are” tbh. Those that think public money should be spent helping people? That my taxes shouldn’t be used in corrupt ways and line the pockets of the rich? The fact you don’t get that is quite a reflection on yourself. A sheep and a fool.

It’s funny how you think redistributing public money to feed the poor instead of the rich is somehow a bad thing. Or can you just not take it that it’s actually a decent plan but because people that don’t have the same opinions as you are asking for it, you have to oppose it because you’re that sad?

I find it mind boggling that you’re happy for your taxes to feed people that are being paid 2.5x the average British salary (as a minimum). More fool you I suppose.
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Your such a charitable person, you should give a lot more, I don’t understand people like you, pay 1/2 you salary to charity, you may get some satisfaction, or are you just another hypocrite?
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Wow...your brain really doesn’t work does it
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Sat with a glass of New Zealand’s finest

Enjoying reading the thoughts of a genius as usual. Thought about doubling your taxes?
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   Old Thread  #1056 24 Oct 2020 at 8.17pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Weeping in that corner too are you? I’m sure you’ll edit your post in 20mins when you’ve stopped and come up with a shoddy insult.

To be fair a child is much more of a genius than you. I’ve heard that they can actually remember things accurately
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Child genius aren’t you
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   Old Thread  #1054 24 Oct 2020 at 8.06pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Damaged brain in full effect here eh scoz. I said I would love to have a go at being PM but wouldn’t ever make it there because I’d not sell out to a big party.

No idea when or where I said I COULD be prime minister. You’re clearly cracking up old chap. Best go sit in the corner and try remember which way round your socks go
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   Old Thread  #1053 24 Oct 2020 at 7.58pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Says you

This ones for charity folks

When you said you could be Prime Minister, that jobs taken at the moment. How about the Bank of England instead
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State of you.

I genuinely believe whoever brainwashed you is having a right giggle when you start spouting rubbish.
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Guess they are. We should thank ourselves lucky people like you and your Ike minded friends are not running the country and it’s another bunch of muppets instead

MPs overpaid, possibly, something you could address first on your agenda

When this country has been milked dry and there’s nothing left we will know where to look won’t we, when the balance changes and there are not enough people paying taxes to sustain the nation, what should we do then, phone a friend?
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   Old Thread  #1050 24 Oct 2020 at 7.48pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Or maybe we should be allowed to chose where our taxes go. For instance instead of footing the bill for MPs food bills, even though they earn 80 odd thousand annually + whatever other income, maybe that part of our taxes goes towards feeding hungry children?

Redistribution of the existing money... simple, easy answer to the issue. Stop feeding the rich and feed the poor.

Guess the simple things are even beyond some
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   Old Thread  #1049 24 Oct 2020 at 7.29pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Same reason as the government should.

There’s a footballer calling for school dinners, he was the one banging the drum. I wonder how much he is donating himself, or should we leave it down to the tax payers. A lot of clubs do things for the local community. If school dinners are their concern, then why not pitch in?

If he is donating himself good on the lad. I’m sure they may be some kind of tax fiddle or they could create one, reductions in tax if they are donating. I know Harry McGuire was donating out of his own pocket, whether he can claim it back or not, or put it through his books is another story?

And same as any rich person, they have an option to support charities if they want to, or should the government support all these charities instead?

You still dreaming of an endless pot of cash in this country then?

Maybe we should all pay double tax, how about you?
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   Old Thread  #1048 24 Oct 2020 at 6.19pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Why should footballers do something when other high earners and those whose only skill was to be born into a rich family aren't being asked to?

Footballers (and most are from modest backgrounds) seem to bear the brunt of the comments about high wages but it is the market that decides the monetary value of their skill. Whilst becoming a top-rated player is still a rarity and the demand is high for their skills the wages will be high.

Unless of course you nationalised the Premier League and made them civil servants I suppose, like the good socialist you are deep down.

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People are now starting to realise that the “Australia” deal that they were sold as being good is actually exactly the same as NO deal It’s like they weren’t warned or told about it.
Can’t imagine how stupid they feel
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Nurses pay rise ,can't see that happening , to give themselves a £3300 pay rise a few weeks ago just goes to show how out of touch they are


and to see that lavish parliamentary menu that was doing the rounds on social media , how we subsidize their lifestyles , really sticks in your throat ,

Brexit , the majority of the uk population were played like a fiddle and now they have the perfect "get out of jail "card regarding the failing economy , it's all down to coronavirus !

I don't think that even Boris is so stupid as to close our access to this supply of nurses and doctors
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   Old Thread  #1045 24 Oct 2020 at 2.34pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Still more than the 24,907 starting wage for a qualified nurse...

https://www.nurses.co.uk/nursing/blog/a-quick-overview-of-nurses--salaries-in-the-uk-in-2020/

Unless boris and Co are planning on giving them a pay rise of course....
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Boris Johnson has scrapped the target to lower net migration to tens of thousands as he slashes the £35,800 salary cap for skilled UK migrants.

The plan, which ditches the aim put forward by Theresa May's government, was announced in a 507-page rulebook on Thursday.

Under the new proposal, the cap needed for skilled migrants to stay in the UK without any time restrictions will be reduced to £25,600.

It comes as Mr Johnson pursues an Australian-style points-based immigration system, which will take earnings into account along with a myriad of other factors, and comes into effect from January next year.

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Think it’s a good campaign myself

I also think it would be good if all footballers like Rashford did something for their communities, the fans that pay to see them every week. They are on extortionate salaries, I’m sure they could all donate a fair wedge, even if it was through tax reclaims if nothing else to support such charities. If they were genuinely interested
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Far right terrorist arrested in the lobby of a solicitors office building on attempted terrorism. Turned up to murder a lawyer that is representing asylum seekers.

Shocking that is happened in September a week or so after the “activist lawyer” smear campaign by pritiuseless Patel and wasn’t reported in MSM...more corruption...
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The majority of politicians are there for personal gain so no surprise , sadly , a corporate sponsored Tory government with a majority like they have at a time like this is not good for the average person

Save your pennies people !
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Anyone else see that one of the disgusting MPs to vote against extending free school meals for children is actually a TRUSTEE of a child poverty charity.

Couldn’t make it up could you, goes to show how utterly disposable these cretins are...or in the words of Rayner... scum.
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provocation for political gain ?.








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Yep remove the lot
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I mean, cmon, let’s wipe Bath off the face of the country for starters and what shall we call that wall
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And vice versa
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   Old Thread  #1035 21 Oct 2020 at 6.40pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I agree. Get those covid carriageways closed
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We could start with some of those roads that link London with the north. Keep you ****ers where you belong!
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Due to history maybe we should pull down anything to do with the Romans?
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Like most others then minus the iron, lead, zinc and copper, not sure about the slaves, people trafficking and all
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They came to Britain looking for riches - land, slaves, and most of all, iron, lead, zinc, copper, silver and gold.

I nicked that from a school homework site so it must be true
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In the wise words of monty python....

What have the Romans ever done for us?

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Perhaps a trip to the psychiatrist rather than the polling station would have been better for you personally.
What are all the rules and regulations the EU set (agreed every time by UK government) that personally affected you negatively?

Looks that way Jon
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That's a perfect example of the victim mentality dragging the UK down at the moment.

Edit:
Knowing something and proving it are 2 different stories.

Not if you 'know' something because you've seen credible evidence, that you can show to others, rather than 'knowing' stuff because some bloke said it on Facebook or YouTube.
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EU gave you cleaner drinking water
EU gave you better workers rights

That’s just two
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I imagine that’s fairly difficult Jon! Knowing something and proving it are 2 different stories.

Ocelot - The EU have given me **** all apart from a headache......so many rules and regulations from the ****s.......
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Sounds a good idea that Wayne, low wage enhancements for people who are both willing and want to work

Not sure which pot that would come out of but it sounds good

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Or he will and the USA becomes a better place. The Senate is the big deal, no flames no violence, just a neutered President with zero power
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Wouldn't now be a really great moment for Trump to expose the truth about paedophiles and the deep state and lock 'em all up.

Everyone would be really impressed and vote for him.
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You could blame yourself for not making the most of the opportunities the EU offered you
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   Old Thread  #1021 20 Oct 2020 at 6.32pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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He wont lose........then the democrats will start lighting up there citys like they did a few months ago with the BLM bollox inciting more divide and hatred......
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Be funny if Trump flukes it again but loses the Senate. Totally impotent and stuck in the job
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It'll be a damn sight worse if he loses. It's his supporters that are the arses dressed up like action man with the automatic weapons.

You been watching to much CNN Jon.......

So you blame the English people and British politicians for the UK voting to leave the EU

Who else can you blame.......Not good old Nigel or Tommy.....
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So you blame the English people and British politicians for the UK voting to leave the EU
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America will be where it all starts after DT wins a 2nd term next month.........

It'll be a damn sight worse if he loses. It's his supporters that are the arses dressed up like action man with the automatic weapons.
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No facts whatsoever, just purely speculation the lot of it

Applies both ways though Scozza..........Your right though lazy english ****s make job availibilty here easy for unskilled workers when everyone in the UK should be working and topped up by the Gov as needed to a certain income.....

I blame Blair for not changing the UK rules on benefits / working etc when eastern europe joined the EU........Unskilled workers in there droves arrived when the above should have been applied and targeted skilled workers let in........Hopefully that comes in to play Aussie style next year which will also thwart the exodus of people coming from African / ME countries and going to fictious Universitys set up here to scam money etc......

Jon - I wouldnt say im looking forward to it but its certainly coming and America will be where it all starts after DT wins a 2nd term next month.........
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Exactly

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they could only see these foreigners in our country, shagging our woman and taking our jobs

Sounds like two good reasons to me
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Would I LOVE to beat that **** Farrage with a rubber hose

Brexit has got to be the biggest load of political bollox ever, as are the ****ing idiots who conditioned most of the nation to want out without any solid agenda, manifesto, or anything, just spouted bollox, no facts at all, whatsoever!!!

Most of the ****ing idiots that wanted out were racially motivated because they could only see these foreigners in our country, shagging our woman and taking our jobs. If the ****ing lazy English ****s were willing to do the jobs there wouldn’t be any for them would there ffs

No facts whatsoever, just purely speculation the lot of it
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Will all come good in the end........Anarchy and civil un rest in the UK will see to that......

Sounds like you're looking forward to it.
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Hopefully the navy can patrol the coast and shoot them en route like Somali pirates......alternatively they can stay in France.......

Will all come good in the end........Anarchy and civil un rest in the UK will see to that.......
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You haven't thought about this much, have you?

What's stopping people with your view of '3rd world ****s' shipping all migrants direct from Greece to the French coast and selling them a dinghy? Fast route out of the EU and into the UK would be very attractive to plenty - Europeans and refugees alike.

The govt will be dishing out visas left right and centre for crappy trade deals with far-away countries anyway. You thought the Polish lads drinking their foreign lager in the park were annoying ... wait till your cat gets eaten by an eagle sitting on the arm of a Mongolian on a small horse.

Edit: Money saved? Really? The cost of Brexit is close to or more than the total the UK paid in over the last 47 years already ... and it's not even fully implemented yet.
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So the Germans (EU) can come back when they have come to there senses.....

Jon, Being in a club is great but the money saved and Sovereignty is everything...........Perhaps we then start clearing the streets of 3rd world ****s and ****s generally that have been bleeding the system dry without upsetting the EU and their HR crap.......

Futures bright.........
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Thing is Wayne, whatever happens, whatever deal is struck or whoever gives what to whom, you'll genuinely think it's a massive victory for 'your side' .. whoever that may be.

None of the possible deals discussed with the EU since the ref bear any resemblance to what was promised to get the vote of 17.4m people, but you don't care, do you?

No deal, or the 'Australian Style Deal' as the govt have decided to call it, will cause real, significant problems for people within and outside of the UK, but who will it benefit? The already super-rich will earn a bit more perhaps, and those so blinded by their animosity to the EU will happily cut their noses off to spite their faces and rejoice in their new found sovereignty, while suffering a variety of economic consequences and the loss of all the advantages of EU membership.

It's lose - lose whatever happens before Dec 31st.
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We keep leaving the door open, I wonder why?
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EU back to the table it would seem.......surprised as they don’t need us at all......
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I will take your word for that.

One word, Thatcher

Another to describe her, ****
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Not at all. Scargill used a vote to entrench his no compromise/deal position. Same as the swivel eyed loons are now. Losers will be the working man = the same. Scargill and Johnson are basically the same, not interested in the real outcome for British people. It won't affect them.
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Are you getting confused there?

The same **** Thatcher who held the axe and let it fall. Same as most of these useless ****ing politicians have done over the years, just let British industry go down the pan because it’s easier to wash their hands of it, incompetent ****s
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Understand the frustrations Jon
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That's why it's been 'hospitality over hospitals' I guess. ...
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Incredibly this government has somehow turned itself into the NUM of the 80's under Scargill
Promise everything, reject all compromise, **** the consequences for the working man. Pathetic and entirely predictable. All the statesmen have been fired off in the get brexit done purges, Cameron's "swivel eyed loons" now run this rookie government.
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If only everyone looked out for their own, collectively we would drive down the numbers. But there’s too many selfish ****s about for that.
It does amaze me that, as it’s taxable, we are given the decision as to wether we smoke or drink (which WILL kill us) yet can’t choose wether or not we are prepared to risk our own ‘bubble’ by supporting each other during the outbreak of a virus that more than likely won’t
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   Old Thread  #998 18 Oct 2020 at 12.21pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Fair points noj

I'm the same. Being sensible and avoiding any of the ridiculousness and doing my best to keep my loved ones safe.

No faith in any of the people who are supposed to be handling any of this fiasco now
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Its all a load of ********,if I have to go in work everyday with 300+ people on each shift pattern so over 1200 people total.No face masks and people who were travelling back to see families in other EU countries,I will carry on regardless with my life and my family will be coming in my garden,we stick to 2m distance like at work so whats the issue
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****s they may be mate, but they aren’t the ****s actually handling the healthcare or testing. It’s just been put in the hands of other ****s who ****ed it all up for every other ****.
It’s at the stage now I don’t see how the police can enforce any of these new ‘laws’ (I use that term very loosely) and I for one will be carrying on as usual regardless of what tier the ****s put me in. If as a nation we just crack on who is actually going to stop us?
You know I’m not a covid denier, but I won’t be left destitute for a bunch of ****s who want to go out on the piss and infect each other. I have to share a work van or site with other people and my son is on his second infection since going back to nursery, but he can’t see his healthy grandparents who are in the same boat? Righto
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   Old Thread  #995 18 Oct 2020 at 11.03am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Simple.......**** the test......
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Police given details of positive test individuals from the track and trace (or cack and farce as it shall be known) system. ..

Talk of legal enforcement etc.

Lost tests, anyone who doesn't show given a positive results as default...

Well done if you voted for this bunch of ****s...

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One thing Jon, this Covid situation certainly keeps Brexit off their backs

Out without a deal early next year, brilliant, couldn't get much better really
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The EU (Germany) keeps saying there ready and it won’t affect them.......lets see if Merkel don’t bend over and take one for the team.......
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I hink it's Monsieur 'jean' foreigner....



Heard Boris talking about an Australian style deal yesterday. Then the reporter compared the percentages for exports etc. Between Australia and the EU (about 11%) and our current percentages (about 50 %) and talked about the huge tariffs for car makers and food / livestock exporters.... it's not a bright outlook and that's without the extra factor that people across Europe actually 'like' Aussies!

Anyway Christmas is coming and the shops will soon be stocked with oven ready turkeys... now where've I heard that before?

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Well you're playing right into the hands of Monsieur Jonny Forigneur, aren't you?

If you'd both just be quiet for a moment with your defeatist remainer talk, you'd be able to hear the German car industry coming along to point out just how much they need us more than we need them....

Shhhh .....

Listen .....
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I've looked carefully at no deal. I've assessed its consequences... Be in no doubt. That outcome would be a failure of statecraft.
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So looks like a no deal is looming with the EU.......lets now see How this pans out and if the UK is doomed......
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   Old Thread  #987 14 Oct 2020 at 5.57am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Do you know what’s incredibly ironic. I have a few American Facebook friends that support trump and share a lot of stuff from numerous MAGA and trump supporting pages, and the amount of stuff that has fact check and fake news warnings on it is staggering

Funniest one was a post that was fact checked to be completely fake, that was talking about how trump was a victim of fake news about a specific issue. You couldn’t make it up!!

It goes to show the level of brainwashing going on. Moaning about your sacred leader being a victim of fake news, by sharing and posting fake news, and then claiming the fact checkers are also against you, the same ones your sacred leader praises for exposing fake news...

Oh and btw, Ben Shapiro deserves no respect, he refers to himself in third person all the time on his social media posts. Anyone that does that should be irrelevant.
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Evening scozza

You missing me then?

As for happycarperedl.... (where's that sarcasm emoji when we need it?)

I'm very happy you've found YouTube. Are you leaving tiktok behind for, like, ever?

The thing with YouTube- as you know because you do your research - is that it is only very loosely moderated / regulated and any number of agendas, left or right wing, homophobic, racist, sexist, plain lunatic, can be found if you scratch beneath the surface of your 'news'. Wikipedia also lists sources but it doesn't make it entirely accurate or truthful.

You raise a lot of points. Some less misguided than others. Have you researched them all or do you simply believe that your echo chamber of YouTubers have and blindly accept their word in the same way you point to the average MSM viewer?

It does appear that you lay the blame for many of the worlds ills at the door of the MSM which I would argue is unfair. Anyone with intelligence knows that the news is filtered and edited and that varying outlets / newspapers will have a range of political bias. This isn't some big illuminati secret. It's widely known. The BBC isn't responsible for alcoholism, addiction and domestic violence. No more than advertising, endorsements, county lines, poverty, sky sports (I could go on) are anyways...

I have also read about the increase in suicides during lockdown. It's tragic although unfortunately not unexpected. I was very lucky to do some work with Papyrus a couple of years back and they repeatedly publicise the increases around Christmas. They don't lay the blame on the MSM though and I'd be inclined to listen to their expertise on the subject over the likes of Ben Shapiro...

Speaking of... it's as easy to find videos that 'prove' Shapiro wrong as it is to find those of him proving anything. He's a self publicist. That's what YouTubers are. I found some links for you which I'm sure you'll watch with an open mind...

https://youtu.be/iPJBYJTee9A - Notre dame
https://youtu.be/PRF3r3zUGqk - stroppy
https://youtu.be/mSWgyx3eX14 - meh

Took me all of five minutes to find these. I'd imagine someone with a right wing bias could have just as much success searching YouTube ... not that my opposition to the right wing makes me left wing of course (the Shapiro argument so I'm told)

Oh

And black lives? They matter. To everyday people who aren't fooled by the attempted hijacking of a positive ideal.

Peace and love





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I hope Chariman Mal does not read that. Get ready
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Firstly , if you think it's ok for someone to kneel on someones neck whilst they are restrained and wearing handcuffs whilst they die there is no helping you

second video , give idiots guns and they shoot people , America is a failing corrupt empire their corrupt corporate backed media like ours isn't fit for purpose so people are trying to fill the void , you have picked one side as it fits your ideology , which is becoming apparent now !

Steven Crowder , regarding Trump fake news or straight talker , a conservative and Libertarian , fired from Fox news , his bias is obvious !
We all know that Trump has highlighted fake news , i have mentioned it many times , it does not make him honest , just like Boris , they are populist leaders who will spout anything at any time , Bolsonaro (Brazil) and Modi (India ) used the same tactics to win their elections , tell the public anything , just as long as it's what they want to hear and they will vote for you , sound familiar ?

Don't think i need to comment on the bbc lies link , we know !

The last one Crowder again , backing a corporate agenda , i will let you work that one out .

Have a look at some countries that have not been as corrupted as the uk and America , like New Zealand , see how they are getting on

got one for you now , who influences the most people , the ones with the most money , right wing corporate backed feeds like the ones you have listed ,

link.







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I’m sure you can find some, people do tend to record and upload speeches and political events quite often.
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Any chance of a big long list of links to pre-referendum YT clips of David Davis, Farage, Tim Martin etc telling us how we'd get the best deal ever, really fast, no downside, german car industry, 'they need us' etc? They turned out to be spot-on, didn't they?
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Ok thanks I’m glad I’ve met at least two open minded people on here.

Also in these YouTube videos they state sources that you can check so if you were to deny them I’d like to see what exactly they are denying and the reasons why.
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Your a bit behind mate , we have discussed , numerous times on this thread and the covid thread everything that you have mentioned , as i said , the majority of people don't trust msm for obvious reasons .

I will have a look at your links

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Your now about to be told YouTube is an unworthy source full of conspiracies and fake news but MSM is FACTS.......pure unadulterated FACTS.......

Happycarping........ don’t lose your head over the next few posts and don’t resort to insults......
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Also I’d like to add that most who get there news from MSM take it on face value with no evidence or logic backing up their claims whereas all my sources and media show, explain and discuss the topics, evidence, logic, sources and facts.

We are the MSM you must believe us because why would we lie ?

How many of you have ever researched what you have heard from the MSM ?
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https://youtu.be/V6plFlk1uTo

George floyd

https://youtu.be/gXixOQQwqug

Antifa

https://youtu.be/yITK_Bm78mI

Blm

https://youtu.be/W_vS5a8H0lE

Trump/fake news

https://youtu.be/6VixqvOcK8E

Ben Shapiro proving bbc lies

https://youtu.be/g7TAAw3oQvg

Ben Shapiro proving the majority of Muslims in the world are radical and not moderate according to MSM and Obama/leftists

I can go on and on

But here’s one more

https://youtu.be/Q9RGzKZdi8Y

COVID death rates are wrong

Come at me or shut up here’s my evidence where is yours?

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Can’t speak for HC.......but All news has an agenda or slight spin on it........me personally, I don’t bother with any news outlets.......the bigger picture is far more entertaining to consider if it’s plausible and a possibility ......
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We all get our news and information from somewhere , so , where do you recommend , i think we all know , or the majority of us know where not to get our news from , so , where do you get yours from ?
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No thank you, just another person waking up......it’s not easy as you have to scrutinise everything you have ever been told........most deny it because there brain can’t except it.......bit like yourself......

@ happycarpingdw - spot on
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Wayne, your friend is here. Shall I send him down to the basement for you?
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The MSM lie all the time it’s disgusting and something more needs to be done about it and their abuse of the platform they have.

Just look at the reason we went into lockdown, they said x died in 24 hours but after some research and digging (look up the nhs statistics of all deaths or you can request it with the right form from a magistrates) that number of deaths from supposedly just COVID was in fact the total amount of deaths which includes natural deaths so there was no need to go into lockdown.

The MSM and government are therefore responsible for the rise in crime such as drug abuse, alcohol abuse, domestic violence theft etc.

Then look at the drastic rise in suicides especially in young men and those with mental health issues.

Also some other topics to think about concerning the MSM.

George floyd, they spun it to make it look like the police killed him when in fact it turned out he died from an overdose and if you watch the full video which the MSM had but chose to edit before it became available online showed with their narrative a totally different story. He also had a rap sheet a mile long including serving time for holding a gun to a heavily pregnant woman’s stomach whilst his friends robbed her.

Then look at these so called peaceful protesters of blm and antifa but yet there is enough footage showing them looting rioting being racist attacking shooting and killing people.

The MSM are so corrupt and biased even look at the 2016 election there poles were completely wrong and Trump will win by an even bigger landslide this year.

Cmon would you really trust Biden ?

Also blm leaders are openly admitting to being racist and Marxist and you can find the footage even on YouTube but nothing has been done about them.

Look at antifa bringing guns and weapons to protests and admitting they will attack anyone a posing them.

The proof is there it’s not hard.

Please if you are just a believer of the MSM you are being used and manipulated.

Wake up
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DT is a good guy......you will see it once you wake up Jonny..... wakey wakey
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   Old Thread  #969 12 Oct 2020 at 1.00pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
afternoon all

don't be worrying about that nasty virus - we're all still ok for some posh barbarism...

https://metro.co.uk/2020/10/11/boxing-day-hunts-to-go-ahead-on-covid-secure-trails-13404140/


and a drinky poos after hours too

https://metro.co.uk/2020/10/11/matt-hancock-joined-mps-for-curfew-breaking-glass-of-wine-at-commons-bar-13403825/


looking forward to the new 'new normal' later today
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And jimmy krankie wants shot of her because she’s then in no position to hold it against English MPs for breaching the same rules. She hasn’t even got the high horse to ride of banning entry or enforcing quarantine of the English because they’re awash with covid too. Irritating little ****
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Covid makes you act like a ****, says **** MP

http://news.sky.com/story/margaret-ferrier-snp-mp-who-travelled-with-covid-says-virus-makes-you-do-things-out-of-character-12101409
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will still be there in April
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Anyone for pizza !
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Yep , we tried that about 5 years ago , Goddard i think she was called . from New Zealand , and she was stone walled and was made to resign , and the evidence was lost , the corruption goes deep in this country !

The Wiki account of recent pedophile inquiries and investigations , bent bst**ds

A dossier on paedophiles allegedly associated with the British government was assembled by the British Member of Parliament Geoffrey Dickens, who handed it to the then-Home Secretary, Leon Brittan, in 1984. The whereabouts of the dossier is unknown, along with other files on organised child abuse that had been held by the Home Office.[1]

In 2013, the Home Office stated that all relevant information had been passed to the police, and that Dickens' dossier had not been retained. It was later disclosed that 114 documents concerning child abuse allegations were missing. In July 2014, the Labour Party called for a new inquiry into the way that the allegations had been handled, and the Prime Minister, David Cameron, ordered the permanent secretary of the Home Office, Mark Sedwill, to investigate the circumstances of the lost dossier.

On 7 July 2014, the Home Secretary, Theresa May, announced a review into the handling of historic child abuse allegations, to be led by Peter Wanless, chief executive of the NSPCC, and the establishment of a public panel inquiry into the duty of care taken in the protection of children from paedophiles by British public institutions, led by an independent panel of experts and chaired by Baroness Butler-Sloss. Butler-Sloss later stood down as chair of the inquiry.[2] On 5 September 2014, it was announced that it would instead be chaired by Fiona Woolf[3] but on 31 October 2014 she, too, resigned from the role.[4] On 4 February 2015 it was announced that the inquiry would be chaired by Justice Lowell Goddard, a New Zealand High Court judge. The existing panel would be disbanded, and the inquiry would be given new powers.[5] On 4 August 2016, she also resigned from the role
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Tip of the iceberg........bit like Epstein and his elite chums.......

.... like Donald Trump? You're probably right.

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Tip of the iceberg........bit like Epstein and his elite chums.......
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That's why you have an independent inquiry. Who and why the independent members are chosen is a political decision. At least the CofE have endorsed the inquiry findings, so these predatory pedophiles will have nowhere to hide
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The perpetrators of the crimes are protected not the victims

Clergy who were known pedophiles given positions in the church

But , when your politicians are at it and inquiries into them just evaporate into thin air time and time again ,what faith can we have in the system that is there to protect us

How much incriminating evidence is being sat on or lost , seems that you have to die first before your a pedophile
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Absolutely shocking report on The Church of England by the Independent Inquiry into Child Sex Abuse. Between 1940-2018 there were 390 convictions of clergy and church leaders. **** knows how many unconvicted. The report added " Alleged perpetrators were often given more support than victims"
Wonder how Tommy R and the boys missed that???
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Some of the news not making the headlines today ,some of today's testimony from Julian Assange's extradition hearing

.Twenty minutes sufficed for the reading of the “gist” of the astonishing testimony of two witnesses, their identity protected as their lives may be in danger, who stated that the CIA, operating through Sheldon Adelson, planned to kidnap or poison Assange, bugged not only him but his lawyers, and burgled the offices of his Spanish lawyers Baltazar Garzon. This evidence went unchallenged and untested.

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Beauty that
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brilliant .
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Swap the bottle for a nice Sauvignon and send the nurse down in suspenders I’d be happy
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You ok now , do you need your oxygen bottle and nurse ?
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Niver?

And breathe
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Open your eyes man , if you can't see where we are and where we are going your an idiot !
Massive changes are required
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end of the year and next year when jobs go because of covid

Jobs to go from where I work

Like you say, the start of things to come. Also a perfect opportunity for businesses to streamline and also move them abroad
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Which half would they be then.......? Calling it now, gonna be a load of discontented UKIP/leave/tory voters come the end of the year and next year when jobs go because of covid and brexit after they sign on for good old Universal Credit and see how little they will get after paying their taxes for all of their lives.

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Well if it wasnt so f*cking **** ...
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The only passion you have is complaining about everything in the UK
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You do know your sad little digs don’t work right? I mean I’ve told you before multiple times but if your mental capacity is so limited you can’t remember or process it then probably best to make it known so people don’t just think you’re an ignorant old fool.

What I find funny is that someone like yourself that has a defeatist attitude and no aspirations or drive thinks that attempting to belittle someone that does have passion, drive and aspirations somehow makes you superior to them.
It in fact just shows what a sad little pathetic bream you are and why no one has respect for you
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Don't forget, Narcissistic

Get some help

Still laughing to myself about my comments yesterday, a piss take about you being the Prime Minister, and you were serious

Edit - Here you go:

I think we have all thought about being PM at some point. I’d never make it because I wouldn’t want to be part of any of the current parties. Name the last independent PM.

Maybe start your own party since you are such a pioneer. Monster raving snowflake loonies?
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Yeah you better had
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Best leave it for the clever people eh
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Triggered

Ken’s post that the TRUE Joe conservative lives with a load of **** and then says ‘oh well at least i have freedom’ doesn’t show anything but your defeatist attitude and proves my point. But you’re too caught up in being a sheep to see that aren’t you.

Without people driving for change civilisation as it is today wouldn’t exist. No medicines, no laws, no freedoms...

You’re right, you do need help...you’re defeatist attitude has already tied the noose, just need someone to kick the stool, I hear Boris is keen
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What a dip **** you are

The point where, there will always be a counter argument to the **** that idiots like you preach

One word to describe you. Narcissistic

Need some help
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Including rape, murder and paedophilia?

Sicko
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I think you missed Kens point. Google is a magical thing, for every wrong you will find a right
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Remind me again why the defeatist attitude you have is the best way? Because nothing you’re proud of would exist if everyone followed your advice
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Think you missed the point, following yesterday’s discussion it is making the point that the “just accept it and crack on” attitude gets us nowhere and the things people are proud of in this country have come about because people have stood up and demanded change. We wouldn’t have them if everyone conformed to the defeatist attitude.

Also the examples in your post are so out of date and out of touch it’s barely relevant anymore. Kids working at 12 - illegal, having to pay for PPE out your own pocket - breaches many laws, working hour regulations, sexual harassment laws, missing prayer time means you’re fired?
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Who is that then G?
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The person who was going to reset it .
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Capitalism needs re setting as the Financial times stated last year , it has become too corrupted and is now a negative in it's current form to the majority !
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Joe agrees: “We don’t need those big-government socialists ruining our lives! After all, I’m a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have.”

To quote from below

Sometimes you need to know your limitations. Only so much an individual can influence. Governments deal with politics, remind me again who you voted for?

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We can all copy and paste.

By the way this is years old and from an American political website just proving there are arguments on both sides so in fact to have two sides proves nothing will ever be accomplished.


A Day in the Life of a True Conservative
Joe Conservative wakes up in the morning and goes to the bathroom. He flushes his toilet and brushes his teeth, mindful that each flush & brush costs him about 43 cents to his privatized water provider. His wacky, liberal neighbor keeps badgering the company to disclose how clean and safe their water is, but no one ever finds out. Just to be safe, Joe Conservative boils his drinking water.

Joe steps outside and coughs–the pollution is especially bad today, but the smokiest cars are the cheapest ones, so everyone buys ‘em. Joe Conservative checks to make sure he has enough toll money for the 3 different private roads he must drive to work. There is no public transportation, so traffic is backed up and his 10 mile commute takes an hour.

On the way, he drops his 12 year old daughter off at the clothing factory she works at. Paying for kids to go to private school until they’re 18 is a luxury, and Joe needs the extra income coming in. Times are hard and there’re no social safety nets.

He gets to work 5 minutes late and misses the call for Christian prayer, and is immediately docked by his employer. He is not feeling well today, but has no health insurance, since neither his employer nor his government provide it, and paying for it himself is really expensive, since he has a precondition. He just hopes for the best.

Joe’s workday is 12 hours long, because there is no regulation over working hours, and Joe will lose his job if he complains or unionizes. Today is an especially bad day. Joe’s manager demands that he work until midnight, a 16 hour day. Joe does, knowing that he’ll lose his job if he does not.

Finally, after midnight, Joe gets to pick up his daughter and go home. His daughter shows him the deep cut she got on the industrial sewing machine today. Joe is outraged and asks why she doesn’t have metal mesh gloves or other protection. She says the company will not provide it and she’ll have to pay for it out of her own pocket. Joe looks at the wound and decides they’ll use an over the counter disinfectant and bandages until it heals. She’ll have a scar, but getting stitches at the emergency room is expensive.

His daughter also complains that the manager made suggestive overtures towards her. Joe counsels her to be a “good girl” and not rock the boat, or she’ll get fired and they’ll be out the income.

His daughter says she can’t wait until she’s 18 so she can vote for change or go to the Iraq War.

They get home and there’s a message from his elderly father who can’t afford to pay his medical or heating bills. Joe can hear him coughing and shivering.

Joe turns on the radio and the top story is a proposal in Congress to raise the voting age to 25. A rare liberal opinionator states that it’s an attempt to keep power out of the hands of working class Americans. The conservative host immediately quashes him, calling him “a utopian idealist,” and agreeing that people aren’t mature enough to make good choices until they’re at least 25.

Joe chuckles at the wine-swilling, cheese eating liberal egghead and thinks, “Thank God I live in America where I have freedom!”
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A DAY IN THE LIFE OF JOE CONSERVATIVE
Joe gets up for work and fills his kettle with water to prepare his morning tea. The water is clean because some tree-hugger fought for minimum water-quality standards.

With his first swig, he takes his daily medication. His medicine is safe to take, because some stupid commie fought to ensure their safety and that they work as advertised.

He prepares his bacon and eggs. Joe’s bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meatpacking industry.

In his morning shower, Joe reaches for the shampoo. His bottle is labelled with each ingredient because some crybaby fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained.

Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air.

Joe drives to work in a safe regulated car because meddling do-gooders fought for more safety features and standards.

Joe begins his workday. He has a good job with excellent pay, pension, paternity leave, paid holidays and sick pay because some union layabouts fought and died for these working standards.

Joe hurts himself at work and an ambulance takes him to A&E. He receives free-at-the-point-of-use treatment thanks to some bloody interfering trots who decided to create a National Health Service.

Joe gets home and relaxes by listening to the radio. The host reminds everyone that socialists are dangerous and conservatives are trustworthy. He never mentions that the Conservatives have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoyed throughout his day.

Joe agrees: “We don’t need those big-government socialists ruining our lives! After all, I’m a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have.”

Joe lives in blissful ignorance.
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My handicap is the 19th hole

Nice to see you back

**** off
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I was going to ask what your handicap was but we don't want another huge list that takes you two posts to complete...

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**** off
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The most middle class weapon on the market
Strikes fear into any intruder seeing a bloke with a side parting, m&s pyjamas and a 4 iron leap out at them
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You know what, if you have, well done
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Don’t be too embarrassed. You asked and you got your answer, I’ve changed a lot already and will continue to do so in the future.
If I had the platform to make changes in other areas then I would, sadly I don’t and I become one of many voices that form a larger group that ask for that change.

I think we have all thought about being PM at some point. I’d never make it because I wouldn’t want to be part of any of the current parties. Name the last independent PM.
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Sword and Knuckle duster sounds good

Beats my old 4 iron that I keep at the back of the bedroom door

I’d rather live in a society where it’s possible for all to have a comfortable existence without it being necessary to have a list of handouts as long as my...... phone screen

Agree, we need jobs
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I’d rather live in a society where it’s possible for all to have a comfortable existence without it being necessary to have a list of handouts as long as my...... phone screen.
I do however sleep at night feeling safe. But that’s because I’ve got a 5ft sword and knuckle duster in the divan base and two 5 lever locks on the door
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The stuff of legend

Ever thought about being the Prime minister
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Plenty, the health and resilience of my local river is a good start, influence on local planning policy, influence on government and local council spending on the environment, restoration of heritage, community involvement with nature... just the main headers, I won’t go in to individual species, sites and communities

Let me know how it feels to call someone out only to be made to look a fool
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Sometimes you need to know your limitations. Only so much an individual can influence. Governments deal with politics, remind me again who you voted for?

Other than spout ****. Tell me again what you have changed?
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Yep, some just get on with it despite the issues and pretend it’s all hunky dory.
A defeatist attitude.

Funny you mention all those things because they wouldn’t exist if everyone shared your “just deal with it” attitude would they.
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Why because some people just choose to get on with their lives lol

Louder the voice is the more likely change happens...or people just try to censor it of course.

Sums you up perfectly

Like I said, nice to know we are different. Good luck with your 10,000 problems

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A rather defeatist attitude isn’t it? Just getting on with it regardless of the ****.
Clearly how people differ. Some accept and some want change.

Louder the voice is the more likely change happens...or people just try to censor it of course.
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One thing I have realised Wayne is my upbringing is very different to others. I have been brought up to respect our country, heritage and values. get a job and work hard because nobody owes you anything. I get the impression some people would much rather look for things to complain about and moan how **** it is over here than just get on with it
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You know what’s great about all those things you listed Scozza.......you can simply come here via dingy and claim half of them from your lovely hotel.......
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Not to mention freedom of speech and going to bed feeling safe on a night. I could go on and on and on

And then think about those in Peru for example the other day on the news, absolutely **** all

Yeah, rubbish here ain’t it

Let’s not mention quality of life in comparison eh
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   Old Thread  #913 30 Sept 2020 at 4.03pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
One thing I learned from a different forum is that i was stupid enough to even waste time arguing.

I deleted my account, still watch what is happening and see things that I now think are so so stupid.

Ain’t worth it, life’s to short to be arguing against a fcuking armchair.
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   Old Thread  #912 30 Sept 2020 at 3.21pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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it's only a fishing forum at the end of the day, well it's supposed to be anyway

True
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   Old Thread  #911 30 Sept 2020 at 3.12pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Good advice Ian but it will fall on deaf ears.
Sometimes you just have to be the bigger person by letting someone else have the last word , it's only a fishing forum at the end of the day, well it's supposed to be anyway
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   Old Thread  #910 30 Sept 2020 at 2.58pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hope you've got a locked up set up Noj, your rods getting ripped in the lake mate within minutes
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   Old Thread  #909 30 Sept 2020 at 2.38pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The real meaning: the quality of being patriotic; devotion to and vigorous support for one's country.

I think myself very lucky and respect what we have in this magnificent country when I look at the rest of the world's **** holes. Others should too, we are fortunate

If you don't like it you should all **** off and live somewhere better, less moaning ****s about

Oh, wait a minute, there isn't anything anywhere is there
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   Old Thread  #908 30 Sept 2020 at 2.08pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Ssssh.. don’t let them know that white supremacy isn’t patriotism
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Think the only person with issues here is you... feeling uncomfortable about being patriotic and acting like its a big issue when it isn't

Keep bringing the insults, just like scozza did, because I'll tell you what I told him...it doesnt bother me, it only serves to make yourself look more the fool.

You seem mighty triggered still....go tuck in to your union jack lunchbox from the safety of your home, y'know the only place you can safely do it
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There's plenty of people abou mate that think they own the definition of the word patriotic. It's an increasing number around the world in recent times unfortunately. They don't and never will, the ones that think they do are generally as you describe
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   Old Thread  #905 30 Sept 2020 at 12.31pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I think you should all agree to disagree and leave it there, whether you're right, middle or left with your political views whatever race, skin colour or religion you are you'll never agree as past, future, present and this thread shows opinions and everyone has the right to their own, are like *******s everybody has one.

Well possibly definitely not everyone as an ******* as some people might have a birth defect or have medical issues but lets not go there.
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   Old Thread  #904 30 Sept 2020 at 12.11pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Eloquently put Jon

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I wish I could but understandably countries that are desirable to live in don’t let in rabble.
Sometimes I think being patriotic about this dump means you’re either well off enough not to encounter real life, a fool or a racist.
I know there are exceptions but you have to admit, while we enjoy freedoms and culture not seen elsewhere in the world, it’s an island inhabited by ****s
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No I'll have the last word this time for a change.
What's all this strikethrough nonsense, I'll assume you have some sort of cognitive problem so instead of being triggered I shall have pity on you instead.
See what I done there
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   Old Thread  #901 30 Sept 2020 at 11.23am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Imagine getting triggered and then saying you aren't. Only you getting irate about something someone said to you isn't it...about maybe looking beyond your own little issue of feeling uncomfortable.

I know what you've posted in response to plenty of things on here and from what I based my statement on that. If you come across different to who you actually are then maybe stop portraying yourself as something you aren't may be a good idea if you don't want your feelings hurt in future.

I do love the little trick you try and pull about someone else having the last word to make it seem like you are somehow on some higher moral ground than others. Lets be honest, all it is you saying something and then running to hide under the stairs because for whatever reason you cant hold a conversation about what you just said

Guess I've had the last word though because you're probably already under the stairs tucking in to your union jack themed lunchbox because it's where you feel safe enough to have it out.


last words are.... you should go fishing more
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   Old Thread  #900 30 Sept 2020 at 11.15am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Well said

They like to try and stereotype people
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Fair enough.

In the wider world. What a chaotic response from the EU, USA, Canada and the UK to the escalating and very dangerous situation in Belarus. UK and Canada impose sanctions, the EU can't agree on sanctions because Cyprus wants to tag its own issues with Turkey onto the sanctions. Trump as usual is all over the place. Very brave people clearly the Belarusians trying to rip themselves out of Putin's sphere of influence. A united set of targeted sanctions could easily see the dictator Lukashenko fall and not a lot Putin could do. A chaotic response risk's emboldening Putin/Lukashenko and the Belarusian people will end up in a dark place.
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   Old Thread  #898 30 Sept 2020 at 11.06am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Do you have cognitive problems?
Reread your last post. You don't know me.

As for triggering I sit here and see Wayne triggering the lot of you

You can have the last word. I know you won't be able to resist
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   Old Thread  #897 30 Sept 2020 at 10.25am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
You lot get so triggered

Think beyond your own little problem and realise it’s not uncommon for people to feel uncomfortable for various things that they cannot chose to wear or show. At least you have a choice. Many don’t.
Maybe a little thought and you’ll realise how tiny it is compared to what others have to deal with


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   Old Thread  #896 30 Sept 2020 at 9.52am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Im assuming nothing......you wrote a statement.....making assumptions......

Yeah yeah spanky.......what’s your link of the day.....
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Wish I hadn’t mentioned anything now So do I
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I was going to keep quiet but that is a number of outrageous assumptions

Shame on you, you don't really know me

I've said what I wanted to say so don't expect me to have a debate about what you think of me
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   Old Thread  #893 30 Sept 2020 at 9.14am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Well **** off

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   Old Thread  #892 30 Sept 2020 at 9.13am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Nobody is moaning?

It a personal observation and my thoughts on what I said below about the UJ being used muppets. Couldn't see myself walking down a quite and peaceful lake district street wearing one
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Wish I hadn’t mentioned anything now
For what it’s worth I wouldn’t wear a Union Jack or St. George’s cross. Or own anything with it on, for no other reason than I think it’s tacky.
I’m not proud to be British and would go as far as to say I can’t stand the bloody place
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Much better to drop random links in that are irrelevant to the thread at the time and then rant about politics all the time

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   Old Thread  #889 30 Sept 2020 at 8.21am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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it's funny how these 3 are moaning about feeling uncomfortable IF they CHOSE to wear a UJ or St George's cross flag in any form...
Yet showed little sympathy for those that have a different nationality or skin colour who cannot chose whether they display it or not and then feel uncomfortable and have abuse both verbal and physical directed towards them because of it.

A tiny fraction of how they feel is exactly how people of different skin colour, nationality, sexuality, gender, etc. feel every single day when they step out the house because it isn't limited to geographical areas where they are likely to be abused, it could be anywhere.

But of course it is the "poor old british me in my own country" brigade that obviously have it the worst...

Something to think about lads...
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He doesn't want to join in with the adults or add anything to a constructive argument , his theories and ideology revolve around childish pathetic jibes solely designed to get a rise and nothing else , best left alone when discussing adult topics i'm sad to say !
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Are you assuming that you know exactly what I’m assuming? That’s a big assumption from you. You should know better about assuming things on this forum Wayne.

We can stick to facts only... the main reason the UJ and St. George’s Cross are seen in a negative light by a very small minority is their links to far right extremist groups such as BNP, EDL, etc. So as I said, if you feel uncomfortable wearing them then have a word with farage, Tommy Robinson and the other leaders of those groups as it’s their fault.
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I could do that but knowing how some behave I'll identify a place and it'll kick off and I'm not in the mood.
Some people take certain flags the wrong way, even waving a flag at the Proms or a Brexit rally sets some people off .
I just want to go about my business and don't want any bother so I'm not comfortable wearing a Union flag where I don't know people.

That's it I'm done, no tit tatting, you can say what you want I've got other things on my mind at the moment.
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We all know exactly what your assuming along with chairman Mal, Boris lover spanky and Brexit Jonny.......
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You could obviously elaborate as to why you're uncomfortable wearing a Union Flag in other area's of the country. But don't mean the area's of the country pointed out where you almost certainly would.
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Assuming I’m assuming... the chain of assumptions ever lengthens.

I say ban the lot.
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I wasn't thinking or referring to those areas you mentioned and for that reason you reply doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
You obviously have made up your mind on the subject so I see little point in carrying on.
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Assumptions after assumptions.......
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There's plenty in those area's of this country that'd make you feel uncomfortable wearing a Union Flag so why not those I wonder
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   Old Thread  #879 29 Sept 2020 at 6.33pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
meltdown , we were warned .


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No
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   Old Thread  #877 29 Sept 2020 at 6.16pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You mean like The Falls road West Belfast or Toryglen Glasgow. For Union Flag wearing?
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Ask the geezer with a fully kitted out mobility scooter shouting at foreigners in the town centre about going back to their own country...

Then again if far right extremist group hadnt have adopted them as badges and logos then maybe no one would think anything of them. Probably need to have words with farage and Tommy Robinson about that though.
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I saw so many British and English flags all over on the run up to the Brexit referendum. Not done out of pride, otherwise they'd have always been on display surely? Done to say "We should leave the EU and you're not welcome anymore"

Is that an assumption.......You should know better than assuming......
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Yes let's hope it stays that way and things actually improve so in certain parts I no longer feel uncomfortable.
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Good job many GB sports teams and fans don't see it the same as you and the Google post #871
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The only incidents I know of locally where the british or english flag has been subject to complaint is when it has been used in an inflammatory way. E.g. I saw so many British and English flags all over on the run up to the Brexit referendum. Not done out of pride, otherwise they'd have always been on display surely? Done to say "We should leave the EU and you're not welcome anymore"
Normally the people complaining are themselves british too funnily enough because they actually think of others and not just themselves.

Nothing wrong with being patriotic, everything wrong with being patriotic to get a racist/xenophobic point across.

Scozza, buying a UJ mask to wear because its the only design you liked is fine, if you'd chosen to buy it so you could wear it to make a point to foreigners that they arent welcome however, well that would be perfectly acceptable for someone to complain about.
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Google 'Is the union jack racist' and you'll find plenty saying that it can cause problems, the George Cross even more so.
Might depend on where you live?
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Its an immunity to your pathetic comments that I need to build up
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Thought you were a proud Britain?

I certainly am

Or are you buying in to the apparent “we aren’t allowed to be British” rhetoric that the right wing spout?

lets say I wouldn't feel comfortable in it. Maybe it has had the wrong image portrayed by a few minority extreme groups, hence i can see it ending up being banned sadly or future campaigns against it
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Perhaps you've built up an immunity to the smell of it given your regular spouting....

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Thought you were a proud Britain? Why does it matter what message it sends out to anyone? Or are you buying in to the apparent “we aren’t allowed to be British” rhetoric that the right wing spout?
Don’t think anyone ever has said the Union Jack should be abolished? Apart from The Scots wanting independence of course.

No one finds the flags offensive, no one cares, the only people that assume they do are right wingers looking for a reason to shout.

Wear it and don’t worry. You won’t be attacked or abused like people are that have a different skin colour, nationality, sexuality, etc.
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Strange, I never knew pigs smelt of bull****
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Sniff sniff ...

Is that boiled ham I can smell? No...

Pulled pork? No...

Grilled bacon? No...

Got it! ... it's triggered gammon.

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   Old Thread  #864 29 Sept 2020 at 12.42pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I wouldn't include northern but your right

Until Mr sensitive can call everybody a racist to oppress freedom of speech he wont be happy, like a few thousand others

If were not careful It will get to the point we wont be able to speak without vetting it through a solicitor first in their world

Here's a story. I went on holiday the other week and my missus was looking at face masks in a shop. She bought a couple of fancy printed ones. She asked me if I wanted one, not much that I liked, they did have a union jack one that I thought looked smart but I declined. Afterwards we were discussing it, the reason I did not buy it, I thought to myself, walking down the street with that on will send out mixed messages!

How bad is that in our own country with our national flag

Still, when they abolish the union jack it will be another step forward for the snowflakes
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   Old Thread  #863 29 Sept 2020 at 12.29pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It's what I was trying to say in Post#851

You could go further and say if he was fat, bald, ginger, northern, hippy etc you would add **** to it.
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   Old Thread  #862 29 Sept 2020 at 12.25pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No racist rant from me. Its what the news said initially. I referred to him as a Somalian **** for what he had done, think nationality, add ****. a point of reference, that simple

And you jump on your bandwagon

You really are pathetic Snowflake, feeling oppressed?
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   Old Thread  #861 29 Sept 2020 at 11.59am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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A friend of mine was injured in the IRA Warrington bombings in 93, scarred for life. A very good mate Phil, a scaffolder, was severely injured in the legs and had a 16mm bolt lodged in his skull that required brain surgery after the Manchester MEN bombing. Same carnage regardless of race, colour, religions, country of birth. Sympathy for the slain police officers friends and family from me, it won't matter to them what colour, religion or where the **** was from that took him away.
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You've surely got first hand experience of using plenty from the way you whine on
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   Old Thread  #859 29 Sept 2020 at 11.21am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Not aimed at any one person in particular but thought this might come in handy for some?
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   Old Thread  #858 29 Sept 2020 at 11.04am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Do you know what is pathetic?

That some people spout racist bull and then get all wound up when it's pointed out to them.

I said in my first post on the subject that his nationality didn't matter. It was you who jumped on the false information that he was Somalian and then went on your racist rant because that's what you repeatedly do. If the report had simply said a man from South Norwood then you wouldn't have gone on a rant about 'British ****s' and all the 'our country' crap you've borrowed from your local bnp branch.

You post your nasty little bits of vitriol then get offended when it's rightly pointed out as being prejudiced.

Happy to be part of the 'I'm not racist but...' brigade but not to have to confront it
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   Old Thread  #857 29 Sept 2020 at 9.41am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No, I guess it strengthens your anti-government views

Or is it anti-conservative?

How about Blair and his goings on in the middle east, what do you think?
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Does that qualify me to be a snowflake ,
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Sad thing is that we could of been free of terrorism had it not been for our idiotic interventions in the middle east and still the elephant in the room at the Manchester arena bombing inquiry , no mention of our government , under Cameron ,the use of middle eastern migrants being radicalized whilst they come and go freely to fight Qadaffi and Assad .
Our secret services warned Cameron that this would happen

Luckily my neice couldn't get a ticket to the concert , but her friend is still traumatized by the events , she had a childs fingers stuck in her hair
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   Old Thread  #854 29 Sept 2020 at 6.17am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You made that call and association you fool. If he was a Somalian he would probably be black. And your point is? How should we refer to them? Country of origin or region OK?

You really are pathetic aren’t you snowflake. You will play and play that race card until nobody feels comfortable saying anything, is that what you want, is that your only strength

Bit of a track record though the last few terrorist attacks haven’t they, all these foreigners ethnicity, there's another fact for you. The IRA seems long gone. Let’s not mention religious believes either eh, another fact for you. I mean, the controversy!

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I suppose it's down to how we individually deal with it.
I deal with it by saying he's a half British and half Sri Lanken **** and at the age of of 23 it'll save a lot of tax payers money if we string him up.
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   Old Thread  #852 28 Sept 2020 at 10.40pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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My original post on it made it clear that I didn't care about his race or nationality and that what he did was terrible.

The debate regards to colour, race and nationality is obviously in response to the inevitable race related ***** that I also commented on.

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   Old Thread  #851 28 Sept 2020 at 9.59pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Can’t see any problem myself
If the BBC had reported he was Somalian he’d be a Somalian ****
If the BBC had reported he was British he’d be a British ****
If the BBC had reported he was a ……you must be getting it by now
He killed a policeman so Just string the **** up and be done with it

PS Not sure why you feel the need to mention it but he doesn't look very white to me
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   Old Thread  #850 28 Sept 2020 at 8.59pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Of course yeah.

You obviously thought he was one of those infamous white Somalian terrorists.

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   Old Thread  #849 28 Sept 2020 at 7.43pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!

And i am sick to death of all the anti Trump rhetoric on the news , we know our establishment , like the American establishment want to see the back of him , we know he's a nob , a solid 30 mins on trump and the dark arts of Cambridge analytica , no mention of the same dark arts in our last election though !
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The negative influence of unchecked corporate power is crippling democracies around the world at the moment ,

Joke leaders are everywhere at the moment and it is no coincidence ,

We are witnessing the death of an empire , reaching peak corruption in America as we are here in the uk , it is becoming unsustainable .

How far to the right will they take us in the UK , as far as America
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   Old Thread  #847 28 Sept 2020 at 7.09pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I’ve mentioned it a few times. Whilst Boris was preaching about freedom of media when XR blocked the route to the printers, assange was on trial for using the right for freedom of media for its purpose of exposing wrongdoings. Hypocritical much? The puppet masters have total control over their chosen fools right now. Media blackout of a trial that threatens the very fibres of journalism? How is that even possible?
A truly worrying time globally...one step closer to total control of the populations.

New censorship guidelines for education set to kickstart a fake version of history being taught to children.
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From the show case trial of Assange , avoided by the media

It is hard to believe, but Judge Baraitser on Friday ruled that there will be no closing speeches in the Assange extradition hearing. She accepted the proposal initially put forward by counsel for the US government, that closing arguments should simply be submitted in writing and without an oral hearing. This was accepted by the defence, as they need time to address the new superseding indictment in the closing arguments, and Baraitser was not willing for oral argument to take place later than 8 October. By agreeing to written arguments only, the defence gained a further three weeks to put together the closing of their case.

But this entire hearing has been conducted in effective secrecy, a comprehensive secrecy that gives sharp insight into the politico-economic structures of current western society. Physical access to the courtroom has been extremely limited, with the public gallery cut to five people. Video link access has similarly been extremely limited, with 40 NGOs having their access cut by the judge from day 1 at the Old Bailey, including Amnesty International, PEN, Reporters without Borders and observers from the European Parliament, among many others. The state and corporate media have virtually blacked out this hearing, with a truly worrying unanimity, and despite the implications of the case for media freedom. Finally, the corporations that act as internet gatekeepers have heavily suppressed social media posts about Assange, and traffic to those few websites which are reporting

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   Old Thread  #845 28 Sept 2020 at 6.46pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I saw it on the BBC news, fancy them getting it wrong. So he is some half bred Sir Lanken British **** then

And you put the brown in it
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   Old Thread  #844 28 Sept 2020 at 6.36pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Autistic and mental health issues...born in Britain, educated at a private catholic school for boys... far cry the the Somalian terrorist immigrant first being touted by the right wing media
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   Old Thread  #843 28 Sept 2020 at 6.33pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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$70k that's why Boris doesn't have his hair done it would cost double that!
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   Old Thread  #842 28 Sept 2020 at 6.31pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Bill Gates seems quite happy to have paid over $10bn in tax, and says the rich, including him, should pay more.

Trump, on the other hand, claimed back $70k for hair styling
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Don't worry I'm sure he's not penniless just yet, I'm sure he'll find ways to bolster his bank balance.
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I don't care where he comes from string the **** up
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   Old Thread  #839 28 Sept 2020 at 5.18pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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A billionaire a tax dodger or playing by the rules that allow him to like Most billionaires and huge corporations.....
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   Old Thread  #838 28 Sept 2020 at 5.05pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yeah...

Imagine if you had posted a rant about him because you thought he was brown and foreign only for the 'facts' to be different. ..

You'd look like a real 'idiot' wouldn't you?

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So Trump's either been exposed as a massive tax dodger, or has lost millions and is nearly skint.

Either way,
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None of them are to be fair, all in it for their own reasons, from the very top down to the bottom, local councillors being the worst in my experience.
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   Old Thread  #835 28 Sept 2020 at 7.49am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I hope you are not trying to state that Boris is honest
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   Old Thread  #834 28 Sept 2020 at 7.39am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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British National, born here, is what’s reported. Middle class family.
Suppose only he would be able to tell you why he had a gun and shot a police officer.
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   Old Thread  #833 28 Sept 2020 at 6.28am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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British citizenship then?

Said in the news he was a Somalian originally, hence my comments. See what comes out over the next few days
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   Old Thread  #832 28 Sept 2020 at 6.13am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Sri Lankan father and British mother, lived here his entire life... wonder how the “let’s blame his nationality” brigade will cope with that
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   Old Thread  #831 27 Sept 2020 at 10.30pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Best to be upfront rather than subtle and risk getting found out, people admire honesty
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Where the fu** do you find people like that , oh yes America ! seen the one about the veterans coming back from Iraq before , surprised She didn't get her head blown off !

Tinhead , he is not very subtle , sorry , the guy is a clown
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   Old Thread  #829 27 Sept 2020 at 9.59pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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See he's not the idiot you make him out to be is he?
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   Old Thread  #828 27 Sept 2020 at 9.23pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Chill out G. Watch. Louis Theroux, far more entertaining
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How to avoid scrutiny , Boris style !

Former Daily Mail editor to become Ofcom chairman

Former Telegraph editor to become BBC chairman

Andrew Neil to front Fox News style UK clone



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To be fair Jon, only what I saw on the news. If I am wrong I am happy to apologise to any offended Somalians. He is is a foreigner though. I never discussed his country of origin with my other half.

A few errors sadly. Ha was on a watch list though

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The daily fail... so unreliable that even Wikipedia has banned it from being used as a source.
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   Old Thread  #824 27 Sept 2020 at 7.52pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yeah once that line is crossed there’s no going back scozza, terrorists should be executed no questions asked.
Although this bloke was potentially just on the terror watch list but the incident was the result of a different motive or, as you say, he was nuts.

Edit- the copy of the mail at the in-laws place says he is believed to be Sri Lankan and had been in contact with a program to prevent vulnerable people being radicalised. Possible links to right wing and Islamist terrorism but no evidence for them to charge or investigate further.
Though they aren’t the most reliable source
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not with these in charge .
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Your not far off with that. Sure it will be released soon
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Strip search and internal examination for everyone that enters a police station then in the future
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Don’t dispute that Jon, watched a program the other night on the place, horrendous, murder is a daily occurrence. Loads in Sheffield, loads of trouble too.

There’s nuts and terrorism, slashing each other up with a knife because they don’t know any difference is one thing. Terrorism and hate for our society and our people is another

Initially the news said he was Somalian when I first heard it

The real ongoings, what happened I heard from another source
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Sorry not as clever as you, seeing as I've never lived in the US and so wouldn't know for sure I'll hand things over to you for the answers as you know everything.
By the way in case your superiority complex gets in the way that was sarcasm
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Quiet all over because of internal investigations I presume. As scozza said one or a number of officers have properly f’d up. Scozza will likely be able to get the exacts from his other half but police procedure when finding ammunition is to call in firearms officers to the scene and carry out more than a quick search on scene in case a firearm is present. Doesn’t seem like that happened from what’s been reported.

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Went to school with and know some Somalian lads. They’ve had a tough ride. Some seen their parents killed in front of them, one trod on a land mine and lost his leg, abuse, domestic violence..
Not defending terrorists, but you can see why some somalians are nuts.
Is this latest bloke definitely Somalian??
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I don't know, if, all, might..
Very convincing.
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Jon - Posting anything on here where people of different races or nationalities is concerned only serves to bring the racist bull out eventually - it doesn't need to be as tragic as this story. Any excuse will do

Listen snowflake. What’s up, doesn’t it fit with you agenda? He is a Somalian, FACT!

Same as the **** behind the Manchester bomb, Same as the **** who killed one of our soldiers, I could go on, you know, immigrants living in our country who carried out terror attacks

What has happened is a real tragedy.

What has also happened though, it triggers feelings deep inside people who are just totally sick of it all

As does the comments you come out with, yeah, racism, remind me again where they are from, idiot
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I don't know. If you got hanged for killing a copper in all states of the US then it might make a difference.
I think it would make more of a difference over here though.
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They do those too but I prefer them stewed with chilli vinegar and white pepper
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Besides the hanging might be a deterrent to some?

Doesn't really seem to be the case with the death penalty in the US, does it?


Mind you, no doubt the re-introduction of the death penalty would walk it at a referendum on the subject. Lawyers' fees, appeals and the possibility of killing innocent people ... who cares? Focus on the headlines, worked with brexit.
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Anyone heard of CANZUK ? possible trade alliance between UK , NZ , Australia and Canada .