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   Old Thread  #2623 18 Apr 2021 at 12.53pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #2621 17 Apr 2021 at 9.20am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Just read a very interesting article in 'insect world' magazine. Apparently ants are immune to covid.





Because they have tiny little anty bodies....


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   Old Thread  #2620 17 Apr 2021 at 7.57am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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They donít give a monkeys. I wouldnít either..
Who else are they going to share the nations wealth with, bloody lgbtq+*# workshops in primary schools, non binary street dance troupe tours and Diane Abbott!?
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   Old Thread  #2619 16 Apr 2021 at 8.55pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You don't get parachuted into a safe Tory seat if you can't play the game and understand the rules of payback. So what if you get caught out feathering you and your families nests whilst in office on the public payroll. There's no consequences
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   Old Thread  #2618 16 Apr 2021 at 8.34pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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He won contracts, from himself granted, but money in the bank is money in the bank lol
What I mean is he clearly has contacts, which is what itís all about really.. who you know
These ministers just seem to have slap dash accounts and get caught
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   Old Thread  #2617 16 Apr 2021 at 7.33pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Not sure that buying shares in a company counts as relevant experience in the field ....

My old mam had shares in British Airways but I wouldn't ask her to fly me to Spain

And yep - he's a ****

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   Old Thread  #2616 16 Apr 2021 at 5.45pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Conversely, we want ministers with real life experience in their particular position in the cabinet and pay them a pittance in comparison to what they could earn elsewhere 🤨
Not defending Hancock, heís a ****. But Iíd do the same
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   Old Thread  #2615 16 Apr 2021 at 5.27pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I see Hancock and his sister have turned in a nice earner from the Welsh NHS.....

Of course the party line will be that no laws were broken and everything is just fine.
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   Old Thread  #2614 15 Apr 2021 at 2.31pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
A reported 107,000 Russian combat troops, 1300 battle tanks plus all the other instruments of war now amassed on the Ukrainian border. Vehicles being painted up with invasion insignia. Putin won't except Ukraine as a NATO member, still hoping for a Novorossiya in Ukraine and laying down the challenge to NATO members. Who will blink first.....
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   Old Thread  #2613 10 Apr 2021 at 10.56am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #2612 10 Apr 2021 at 10.31am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Its the flags I feel sorry for. They are getting shagged senseless.
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   Old Thread  #2611 10 Apr 2021 at 7.49am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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If itís only 29 people and Andrew missed the cut I bet he offers to look after any kids that canít attend with their parents......

I bet Megan woke up with a spring her step this morning! No doubt Harry is thinking history wonít repeat itself now neither.......
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   Old Thread  #2610 10 Apr 2021 at 7.36am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I can also picture you looking like a mid-pubescent white Hendrix strolling into the fire station
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   Old Thread  #2609 9 Apr 2021 at 10.47pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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See my edit....
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   Old Thread  #2608 9 Apr 2021 at 10.28pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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ĎI never wish ill on anyoneí
I knew you were just teasing poor old Gavin
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   Old Thread  #2607 9 Apr 2021 at 9.13pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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as long as honesty, integrity or sweating aren't symptoms....

with regard to Prince Phillip - not one of my favourites, but I never wish ill on anyone* and the Duke of Edinburgh scheme has had a huge beneficial effect on decades of young people and good causes - especially in the Arts sector where young practitioners often need a helping hand and in inspiring young people to join the emergency services after the experiences they've had. I can remember my time spent with the local Fire brigade for my award even now.

So - RIP Duke

Edit - *except gavin Williamson
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   Old Thread  #2606 9 Apr 2021 at 9.09pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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They might tell him the funeral is in America
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   Old Thread  #2605 9 Apr 2021 at 8.49pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Maybe he'll get covid symptoms on the day
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   Old Thread  #2604 9 Apr 2021 at 8.47pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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They'll be telling prince Andrew it's only 29....

And he just missed the cut
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   Old Thread  #2603 9 Apr 2021 at 8.44pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yes, that's the same for many in public life.
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What ever they choose, I'm sure they will be damned if they do, and damned if they dont.
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   Old Thread  #2601 9 Apr 2021 at 4.18pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It's only 30 people, perhaps they'll use unnecessary travel as an excuse not to attend?
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Bet that funeral will be a tad awkward
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   Old Thread  #2599 9 Apr 2021 at 2.16pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Looks like Meghan can stop checking her rear view mirror for erratically driven Range Rovers.
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   Old Thread  #2597 8 Apr 2021 at 11.09pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Perhaps the army might respond if they didn't have to fill out so much paperwork to transport vital equipment there from England.....
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   Old Thread  #2596 8 Apr 2021 at 10.17pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I really hope for heavy rain for the next week over Northern Ireland. Appalling lack of leadership again from Johnson and this one issue rookie government. Sort it out ffs before long-term very hard won gain's are lost and the consequences are huge
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   Old Thread  #2595 8 Apr 2021 at 6.24pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I don't know about snacks, but you can get certain soft drinks delivered at all hours, at least that's what I think my neighbour meant when complaining around a year ago that he could call up for coke at 4 am and have it delivered in half an hour but he couldn't get bog roll or tinned tomatoes for love nor money
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   Old Thread  #2594 7 Apr 2021 at 6.28pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thereís already a killing being made, only unregulated and untaxed; and jest as you may, but the Ďsnack economyí in the Netherlands makes a killing. You canít scratch your left nut in Amsterdam without somebody charging you Ä20, for 50 you can even have them scratched... for 20 mins
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   Old Thread  #2593 6 Apr 2021 at 8.44pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Like I said seems pretty organised. If the customs border would have been on the island of Ireland instead of in the Irish sea, (as brexiteers promised it would be, no partition of the UK). Would the same age rioters be getting arrested in West Belfast? Someone was always getting shafted, Johnson chose the Unionists.
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   Old Thread  #2592 6 Apr 2021 at 6.37pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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seriously there's a killing to be made if it is legalised. One of the university campuses has an infamous 'munchy man' who delivers at all times of the night to 'hungry students'...

might not be one for Dragon's den, but i reckon it's a good business opportunity for people who know their way around the LTN's...
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   Old Thread  #2591 6 Apr 2021 at 2.42pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Snack economy That's about all that's left of the shops, nail bars and take away's!
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   Old Thread  #2590 6 Apr 2021 at 12.12pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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None in the slightest.This is their usual form,When the DUP don't get their way out come the big drums and flags,rattle on that the union is under threat and what you seen on the news is the result. Most of the people arrested are very young,as young as 12,must be a very angry smart kid to understand what is going on.
It's just a mirror image of what goes on in England with race,it's religion over here.
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   Old Thread  #2589 6 Apr 2021 at 11.43am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
it is legal for ex-PM Teresa May's hubby to grow and export cannabis to Canada and the USA.
but someone growing their own on their property for their epileptic kid gets prosecuted.
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   Old Thread  #2588 6 Apr 2021 at 11.36am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yeah as Duggs said it's a cynical vote bait. That potential 1bn for the treasury as a little sweetener for non stoners maybe

I'd be ok with them legalising it in London. The place is smelly anyway and the locals could do with being a bit more chilled out. Think of the boost to the snack economy too....
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   Old Thread  #2587 6 Apr 2021 at 10.17am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Not neat but perfectly acceptable with a mixer
Best not to have a meal at all to get the best effect
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   Old Thread  #2586 6 Apr 2021 at 10.05am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Regulation leads to education
Itís not socially or physically acceptable to drink 2 pints of gin with your lunch on a Sunday
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   Old Thread  #2585 6 Apr 2021 at 9.45am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Trump being the perfect word, it's all the rage these days populism.
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By decriminalising it do they mean you will be able to buy it from shops, if so will the stuff be strong enough to satisfy the user? if not theyíd still be an illegal market. Would the legal stuff be cheaper once taxes are applied.
Or will they let things carry on as it is now but wonít be a criminal offence? If so that wonít reduce gang crimes.

Weed use can have detrimental effects to some peopleís mental health, how will they protected. I know they are not protected now, but itís different when you legalise it.

Lots of questions and Iím not sure of the answers, all I know is the stuff stinks horribly and the smell can carry some distance, that includes when they grind it, let alone smoke it.
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   Old Thread  #2583 6 Apr 2021 at 7.37am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Young black males stabbing young black males in drug turf wars doesn't fit their agenda.....
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   Old Thread  #2582 6 Apr 2021 at 7.22am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Iíd say itís unenforceable and inevitable we follow the US eventually.
Probably a generational shift though. Iím not throwing stereotypes about by saying it, but Iím amazed blm hasnít touched on it. Somebody will exploit this at some point. Weíre letting kids dictate and then reassign their gender before they can buy a kitchen knife in Tesco while pushing processed carcinogenic garbage food to them but an adult canít consume a plant... ffs theyíll be telling me next I canít leave the house
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   Old Thread  #2581 6 Apr 2021 at 6.32am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Sadistiq in cynical bid to get the yoof vote
Possession seems to be decriminalised anyway.
It needs to either be legalised or criminalised and enforced, the current situation is daft. Massive industry with yoots stabbing each other over turf
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Well it appears Sadiq has revealed his trump card. Surprised it took him this long to think of it and only a matter of time before it happens if we are going to yield to the woke and the yoot dem. Half this forum will be having bloody kittens!
Not that Khan has the power to deliver, but the suggestion alone is a cunning weapon.
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......FFS Mal.....
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More 'cess' than 'brad' these days....
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Says Mr Pitt
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You know when people see you and say 'oh god!' they aren't paying a compliment right?
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You have not seen it enough, chiseled by the gods is my moosh.......
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Yeah. .. your face upsets me the most too....

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Mine too Mal and is what upsets me the most.......
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Not with a beautiful face like mine Wayne. That would be unfair to the world.


Chuffy. ... is it bad that some of the ideas on there seem appealing? (The farage one particularly strikes a chord)
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They may well be as you describe, clearly organised. No sympathy for being UK Unionists that feel they have been **** on by Johnson's Tory Brexit parties lies then?
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Thatís about right.......

Wish they would shut up about these poxy passports! Hopefully a vote doesnít get it through parliament. Next they will say mask wearing needs to carry on for ever to.......
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This just about sums it up

Wokeopoly Board
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NHS is now institutionaly racist......

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My boozer and itís clientele is so low you have to go upstairs to the basement.......
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To be fair Wayne if they let you in then the bar must already be pretty low (dwarf jokes ahoy!) is satan still popping in for his half of Guinness?

My local were very open and consistent on the signing in bit (and distancing, not being at the bar etc) last time. Even myself and the two old blokes who wandered in for last orders went in the book each night. Relaxed and polite about it all and nobody complained.


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Bunch of smack heads and dealers under a banner of convenience that is Loyalism
They haven't a clue

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Still a big push for passports! Glad to know my local will not be taking any notice of it........
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Rioting in South Belfast, far more serious and inflammatory than the recent women's protest and the protests about the Tory control bill.
Priti must have missed that one, not heard a squeak from her yet, or maybe because it's a DUP mob she didn't....
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Yep. Wink wink nudge nudge old boys brigade.
And considering those are the media channels read by the masses, we all know what happens... spanker told us once or twice.
But! The alternative is? The sole purpose of the Labour Party is basically to nip at heels. Theyíre a glorified union fronted by, often, bell ends.
If they got in, business, the media and the flock would get them out again.
By allowing the sticky fingered nonce ****s too much of the pie over generations we are at their mercy for crumbs.
Take your number and vaccine, keep in line and donít let Diane abacus help with your tax return
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I was doing a sarcasm. .

That said, even through those metal eyeholes you can surely see that the posh white men in charge of the media are much more forgiving of the posh white men in politics when it comes to their crimes and misdemeanours.

Old boys club maybe?

And Diane does have a terrible fringe
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   Old Thread  #2559 2 Apr 2021 at 11.33pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Like men some women get a hard time, some don't, nothing to do with being posh or white.
Take a look at her fringe, she looks thick,
Listen to how she talks, she sounds thick
When she speaks she makes mistakes, again makes her sound thick.
I can't be the only one that thinks that or it wouldn't be a talking point?


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With the odd moth departing his cardigan as he gives her the LD (little d...)
This decision of his was enough evidence to me that he could never have been in charge of a country, he canít even be trusted with genitalia. I mean she is an abomination!
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It's different for boys

Especially rich, posh white ones...
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The other half being Mr Corbyn, as reported a few years ago, is surely infinitely worse ... yet that spaffed did not include taxpayers' cash.
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   Old Thread  #2555 2 Apr 2021 at 10.32pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Please, Jon. I prefer to think of the lovely Miss Abbott in the same way as a sea sponge or worm, the image of a beast with hers as one of itís backs horrifies me
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I think there are convincing arguments on both sides of the vaccine passport debate. It's a difficult one..

Imagine this though ... a high level politician. A high level politician that no one knows how many kids they have, with however many partners, thanks to their legal intervention, is shagging someone they fancy who they appoint as 'an advisor'. They are shagging this 'advisor' while their spouse is receiving treatment for cancer. They pay said 'advisor' over 100K of taxpayers cash for who-knows-what, before jacking it all in to focus on their Carrie .. I mean career, obviously.

Now imagine that high level politician were Dianne Abbott, and compare the newspaper headlines over the last week..
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I guess that's because someone reiterating that a problem exists - when it does exist - is less of a thing to object to... maybe? If you look at the previous reports and then what was actioned it gives a fuller picture.

And you're right that the report does point to some issues that need addressing. Albeit ones that previous reports had already identified.

As for my sis and the antibodies she was saying something along those lines too just yesterday. Work are asking all staff - even vaccinated - to still have regular tests so far. Same for me at school actually. Still expected to do the tests as well.

Tinhead, Andy - when I went to visit my mam in the care home in did a test on arrival. Waited in the car for a text about 20 minutes for the all clear. Then I was allowed in. Could work for pubs if people really wanted it to I guess
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Mal didnít your sister have CV so that may give her some immunity? Canít she have blood tests for antibodies regularly?
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I didnít hear many objections when that race baiter David Lammy produced his report stating UK was institutionally racist from a person who always cried institutional racism every time.

To many people today trying to make a living out of division both real, imagined and fabricated. Without the division, outrage and inequalities their bank accounts would be empty and their perceived status nowhere.

The latest report is not all sunshine and pasture lands, it admits there are still problems and challenges ahead, but letís forget that part and attack the headline itís good for business 👍🏻
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I think it could be the way to go, not sure how it will work though, maybe one that's been done up to 48hrs before? Obviously doesnt make it foolproof, but reduces the risk
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I know it's easier said then done but how about tests for those who haven't been vaccinated?
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Fair points all.

My sister is in the can't have the vaccine club. She simply has regular tests at work that give her the all clear. A 15 minute wait isn't too much to ask.
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I do agree with the sentiment about protecting others, but when your chief medical advisor comes out with a statement about living with covid like we do the flu, then it's very easy to try and compare the two, well how we act socially at least.
Another question those who cant have the vaccine will they be allowed into pubs and restaurants anyway?? clearly apart from saying no there is no difference between someone who cant have the vaccine to someone who has refused it.
Think we are heading down a dangerous hole here, which maybe 2 years ago would of been swept aside as a silly idea, now becoming the norm
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Absolutely take your point. I do think we are way past the flu parallels now given the context of the last year though.

There are people of all ages who, for medical reasons, can't have the vaccine. A little extra safety for them is a small price to ask I think. It's not 100 per cent, but it's better than zero.

If everyone is offered it with clear understanding of the benefits and potential restrictions then I'm not opposed to businesses protecting themselves, their staff and their customers. It doesn't need to be forever. It could just be a way of getting businesses open again a bit sooner and safer.

Lots of grey areas I know. Like my head...

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The thing is there is no flu passport, which in some peoples case can be as deadly. Sure, it could mutate, but there are no guarantees that the current protection would be good enough. I'll have the vaccine when offered, but absolutely against using it against someone who hasn't.
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Maybe rishi should come to get a box of hot wings from KFC Blackburn. ..

It was a farce from start to finish. Let's pay someone who has already gone on record denying institutional racism to produce a report that fits the view that institutional racism doesn't exist here.

It's like asking Tazi's builders to do the surveying and QA report on their own work. 'No problems here mate!'
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Devils advocate here - you could flip that and say 'what's the objection?'

I guess from a business owner perspective it only takes one positive case traced to their premises and they are back in shut down again losing money and sending staff home.

Pubs do proof of age without fussing which I know is slightly different but it does show that processes can be simple enough.

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I don't sense any anger from here in Italy. Firms with UK suppliers have, in many cases, found other EU suppliers to make life easier, and it's very much as case of 'whatever' now.

The EU's disastrous handling of Covid and the vaccine rollout has little or nothing to do with brexit. The 'Oxford' bit of the AZ is only used by the British media. As far as everyone here is concerned AZ is a multi-national with plants all over Europe, it's certainly not seen as a 'British' vaccine.

Too much of that sovereignty that the UK was so worried about letting every country do what it wants with no coordinated plan to do anything. Bloody shambles. But brexit's old news here ... noone gives a toss now. Except me, because I can't use my favourite bait suppliers.
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There is considerable anger within the EU at the UK over Brexit and the Bloc is behaving like a sulky baby. The sooner the EU accepts that Brexit is done and dusted and starts to look at the bigger picture the better. The UK deems it better to be outside the EU. Perhaps the EU could simply get on with it and look on the bright side for once and consider that the Bloc is actually better off post Brexit.

Look for the advantages that may result instead of harping on all the time about the disadvantages. The Bloc as a whole has enormous bargaining power and could easily form new (and better?) alliances if it would just get up off its asre and stop pouting like a sulky child. It's distaterous handling of Covid and the vaccines is a classic example of the EU shoting itself in the foot because of a strop over Brexit. OK, maybe this is over simplifying things but Macron in particul;ar should stop doing a De Gaulle and try leading for once in his pampered, priviledged life.

(And this is from a staunch anti-Brexiteer, BTW.)
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Concerns the virus could mutate and re-infect those who have been vaccinated.?
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Covid passports rearing their heads again. With the majority of over 50's vaccinated, and all the vulnerable vaccinated, what is the actual point?
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Rishi Sunak Chancellor of the Exchequer.
Comments on the government's own Commission on Race and Ethnic Disparities -

"But if I think about the things that happened to me when I was a kid, I can't imagine those things happening to me now."

You'd think this guy was good with numbers given his position. He's 40, where does he think the people that were racist towards him have gone
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Apparently they're all Russian to get hold of it....


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I've heard it's a novichok variant.
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Well, well, well. Merkel and Damien Macron Thorn now knocking on Putins door for his vaccine. Hmmmm.
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Yeah that'll be why on here
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Canada nearer to USA than Europe, no blood clot cases so follow the money

Germany lack of vaccinations so lets restrict it to show we are doing something and really care about our population by ****ing them over!
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Probably because Canada's vaccination programme is not impacting on ours?
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Odd that Canada has done the same thing as Germany re the AZ vaccine with NO blood clot cases but doesn't get a mention, wonder why
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You wouldn't hear that if they had a good supply. They've ****ed up with the ordering, so rather than admit it they come out with this cobblers, try to frighten people here and try to stall our success.

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Dumb ass German political stance bolsted by that **** Macron the **** stirrer to make the UK vaccine less desirable simply because we left the EU.........****s!!

If there is money to be made then im sure someone will have an agenda!
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FFS Germany now refusing under 55's the AZ Covid jabs. Citing 31 cases, including 9 deaths, in 2,700,000 as evidence of failure of the vaccine! But its still OK for over 55's, surprisingly they are far behind their predicted inoculations so lets cover this by again raising problems with the jab to cover their own failings.

One for the conspiracy theorists, earlier this year AZ was suspended for blood clotting problems, although Pfizer had similar if not identical figures.

Pfizer £20 a jab, AZ £4 a jab. Big Pharma pushing an agenda and profits anyone?

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Yes correct, but still happy to allow people in the pubs. So moving forward if say 70% of people take up the offer of having a vaccine, then the risk is even lower now than what it was in the summer
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Yeah. It's none of their business when you take your holidays. Nosey beggars.
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   Old Thread  #2524 30 Mar 2021 at 5.01pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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How about the simple fact we didn't have a vaccine back then.
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   Old Thread  #2523 29 Mar 2021 at 8.25am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Bitter experience perhaps?
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The government and pubs were happy for us all to enter without a vaccine in the summer, cant see why that will change
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I donít think so Paul, vaccine for travel to another country, acceptable in my mind but pubs etc.......draconian and really not needed IMO......
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Straight out of the Trump team playbook. Only Johnson is more worrying as he has all but one of the media barons onside. Trump only had one
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Any pub that requires you to show whether you've had a vacation or not deserves to be boycotted in my opinion
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I think Boris is a ****ing idiot, but you have got to hand it to him nobody in media is talking about the vote in Parliament to extend powers, vaccine wars, illegal immigrants or "kill the bill" its all been about Pub passports
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So good to see the Pub / Hospitality sector kicking back about bloody vaccine passports.......
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All about public perception for me and the press and now any clown with a camera phone laps it up

Iím up for that Rich, snatch squads, drag the ****s out, give them some shoe, in the van, let the music continue to play

Imagine the media and the public outcry from the snowflakes when somebody is being a **** and they get some baton, so out of order

****ing human rights donít come into it, if I was there and been a **** I would deserve what I got, I am sick of this fluffy nice to have image, next time there is a football riot they should send out the snowflakes with a feather duster to stop the violence
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protests that cause annoyance or are too loud

I forgot to say we were LOUD!
Police said keep off the roads, fair enough we did, but we stood on the kerb and encourage motorists to sound their horns, which they did and as they were stuck in gridlock the sound was deafening, it was really funny.
What wasn't funny was seeing two ambulances getting delayed. (covered on the other thread)

Did the protests achieve anything? Partially yes
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The point is, there are plenty of laws which already exist under which the idiots kicking off the other day can be arrested and prosecuted.
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put some plain clothed crowd snatchers amongst any more protests. anyone playing up, drag em down an alley and give them a dig. I for one say let the po po smash the **** out of them. just sending out our police with just a shield is a joke. and water cannon the scruffy gits.
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Scandinavian model,

Forget that. Our culture is worlds apart from theirs. They have a lot of self discipline where as we do not!

Simple for me. If people feel so strongly about something where they want to protest against something, crack on. Inflicting pain, suffering on others and smashing personal or public property is out of order and there needs a line drawing somewhere along the line. Thatís why I maintain, if you want to act like a ****, be prepared to be treated like one, simple

My thoughts entirely Tinhead

The point I'm trying to make is if you demo peacefully you can still get your point across

As soon as itís violence and rioting, forget it, the whole point of the protest has been lost, ****ing idiots
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I actually went on 3 demonstrations last September/October.
We weren't allowed to march but we were allowed to gather with social distancing. The police told us that under covid restrictions we could be told to disperse without notice. We told them we planned to gather for no more than 2 hours on each occasion and then disperse promptly. The police allowed us to do our thing and stood out of the way. When we finished each session I personally went up to them and thanked them and they seemed to appreciate it, I think they actually agreed with our cause but not could not say.
The point I'm trying to make is if you demo peacefully you can still get your point across.
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If it had turned violent all that would have happen is make the idiots implemented these traffic schemes the good guys.
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It all depends on the direction you want society to move in.

Towards the Scandinavian model, where human rights are recognised, kids don't get hit, and people generally get along pretty well and are happy? Or towards Taliban controlled parts of Afghanistan, where people are strung up from lamp posts for looking at someone the wrong way.

This new bill seeks to outlaw protests that cause annoyance or are too loud? Eh?

You may think it's no big deal and will help clear Greta's mates from the road, but next time it could be something you want to protest about. Bob's Low Traffic Area shambles, for example. Why on earth should people like him be prevented from protesting about the scheme if they want to.

There are endless examples of society only moving forward as the result of protests which caused lots of annoyance to others. Civil rights and suffrage for example. Perhaps governments should take notice before big protests are necessary, but almost outlawing them is a dodgy step backwards for any democracy.
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Part of my day to day is the much lesser risk of some testosterone fuelled Y10 getting mouthy and calling me a ****. Should I be showing him who is boss by resorting to the same thing? If there's a fight at break, should we send in the ex military tech teacher to beat them up? No.

Not beat them up but discipline them yes, you see Mal I believe that's a little part of the problem discipline in schools has even succumb to the fact that these kids nowadays know they can get away with it it's where these little darlings start to learn that there are no harsh consequences even the parents have no forms of discipline, I know it was different times being brought up and educated in the 70's early 80's but we had parents and teachers who could use punishments as a deterrent lots of them.

What have we/you got now, oh Timmy you do that again and its ten minutes time out on the naughty step for you my boy, I had the cane once in 1979 at primary school from an ex army corporal headmaster at the ripe old age of eight for starting a fight with a friend who had kicked my football over the school wall into the factory next door with no chance of getting it back, I never had it again didn't want too and when I got home and told my parents the old man responded with sounds like you deserved it and clipped me around the ear for good measure.

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And while I pretty much agree with mal, the reason restrictions on Ďprotestsí need addressing is because of this quote.
As a teacher Mal, you must have given the lecture on one or two spoiling it for everyone else.. Same principle, the authority needs to stand their ground and implement the punishment. Successive lessons/terms/years/teachers/governments may well reverse it, but the class/public learn a valuable lesson in doing what the **** you are told
Iím not defending this bill, I havenít read it.. But there has to be change because peaceful protest is not just holding up the rush hour if somebodyís mum dies waiting in traffic in an ambulance!
Iím sure the bill makes threats of long prison sentences, not smacking people in the mouth?
Itís not about helping your fellow man if by gluing or tying yourself to something stupid there is a succession of ****. Itís selfish and childish most of the time.
Personally, I find protests ridiculous.. Iíd be embarrassed being associated with 90% of those you see at these things. Iím a people person, I just dislike lots of people
Give me peace, love and fruit punch. Iím all for it!
But if a Ďprotestorí even put a dent in my car or van, let alone hurt my family I would execute them where they stood
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As for your anecdote- so it's ok for the big policeman to punch someone out?

Itís the law, you can use reasonable force that is proportional to the circumstances. Same as anybody in the land, if you are attacked you can defend yourself. If your on your property then itís disproportional, meaning if you were attacked and feared for your life, well, you could virtually get away with killing them!

I prefer the motto 'to serve and protect' over 'don't mess or we'll **** you up'

I guess we could come to some agreement around that

I donít condone all these riots, itís wrong and a lot of it for me is down to self discipline. Somebody is going to get seriously hurt or worse, as long as itís somebody who deserves it, then thatís fair game to me, an innocent bystander or somebody whoís job it is to uphold the law, thatís out of order for me

We are going to end up in a proper mess if we are not careful. When I look at this country some of the antics are shameful and pathetic, like spoilt kids ****ing rioting. You know, all the freedom and privileges that we have compared to other countries, itís pretty poor isnít it over here, still not enough, ****ing idiots
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Unfortunately even the most peacefully intended protest can be spoiled by the mindless few who will hijack it for their own desire for violence and vandalism.

If I was on a protest and it turned violent i'd walk away. If every non violent person done that then the police would be left with a small minority to deal with, but for some reason people who are usually sensible feel the need to get involved, I've never understood that.
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I expected you would disagree.

My view is simple. If the way to 'win' is to be the person who can hit hardest / shoot the most people / drop the bigger bomb then that's the only message you are sending out - I.e. That violence is the way forward. Which will breed more and more of those horrible ****s you rightly say are out there.

If the message you want to put out is 'be careful' then it begs the question 'or...?' To which your response seems to be 'or I'll hit you'. That's your basic dictatorship/ police state right there. Not for me I'm afraid.

As for your anecdote- so it's ok for the big policeman to punch someone out? No. It's not. Because that little toe rag who hit the female officer now has grounds to claim unfair treatment by the police. So he gets off / or a lighter sentence. And is back out doing the same horrible **** tricks again.

I'm not saying people take the job to get punched in the face, but they shouldn't be taking the job thinking it gives them free reign to do it either. It's a known risk when recruits sign up. And it's why there's respect for officers who put themselves in the firing line (from many if not all). Part of my day to day is the much lesser risk of some testosterone fuelled Y10 getting mouthy and calling me a ****. Should I be showing him who is boss by resorting to the same thing? If there's a fight at break, should we send in the ex military tech teacher to beat them up? No.

I prefer the motto 'to serve and protect' over 'don't mess or we'll **** you up'



Just realised I've given Pritti her next police bill title there...




Peace and love.....
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Meeting violence with violence won't solve anything

Tend to disagree with that Mal, itís the message that it sends out, the right one, be careful. Whatís the old saying, if you carry a big stick it very unlikely you will need to use it. However, if you come under constant scrutiny it comes to the point you cannot use any force, or thatís what the snowflakes probably want, everybody will want a piece of the action because they know they can get away with it, and they will, and thatís is exactly what we are heading towards now

There are some proper horrible ****s about and until a snowflake gets popped or beaten up by one they will never realise!

Last night, happens near on weekly, a female police officer got a good hiding by a ďmanĒ she had a student with her, he got one too. Good news is one of the team used to be a body builder and ex prison officer, 20 stone of muscle, sparked the **** out, and that happens REGULAR!

I suppose you are going to say thatís the joys of the job arenít you? Yeah, people take a job to get their face smashed in donít they!
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For what it's worth...

I absolutely condemn violent protest. And any that endangers the health and safety of others.

Sometimes protest needs to be disruptive to get attention. If it doesn't affect let's say rush hour traffic, then most people are so self centered that they'll just carry on ignoring it as 'it doesn't affect them'. Ask the tube drivers union reps... they'll be able to explain it.

Meeting violence with violence won't solve anything.

Unfortunately even the most peacefully intended protest can be spoiled by the mindless few who will hijack it for their own desire for violence and vandalism.

The bill contravenes (potentially) the bill of human rights that we as a country are already signed up to.

It's just one of many ways in which Patel is manoeuvring laws and regulations to suit her increasingly totalitarian state. The possible end point of this is that all public opposition and protest will be deemed illegal. Scary prospect. Or at least it should be.

And Gavin Williamson Can **** off

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You say "this lot" as if all politicians aren't corrupt.......
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Yep , it did get a bit lively and yes , the di**heads have given Priti Patel more amo to push through her bullsh** bill , things are going to get very ugly over the next few years , it's inevitable , the establishment is out of control in the UK and we are being exploited , this government is close to being a mafia and we are heading in the direction of an authoritarian state to enable it !
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Very very naive , have you not been paying attention to how corrupt this lot are , this bill will enable them to stop any protest , would you trust them with that power , are you always this naive ???

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Agree, peaceful protest, crack on

Start with violence against other people and property and that is out of order. First to condone football thugs, these ****s are no different. Cant control themselves and all they are looking for is somebody to take there anger out on, pathetic people. If they want blood, give them some of their own I say, **** em

It will get to the stage, if it hasnít already where you canít touch the ****s without been scrutinised by the press of self takes. If you are part of it you deserve all that you get for me
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They are not taking away the right to stand shoulder to shoulder for a common cause..
Theyíre taking away the right to stand in the middle of a busy road to do it.
What is peaceful about disrupting other peopleís lives and businesses?
Donít politicise it, the people playing up arenít there to protect any rights or freedoms.
They are just ****s
Are you sure youíre alright? Are you irritating in person too?
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You think this government should have the right to take away our right to demonstrate , would you call all those people who stood up against , Iraq war , poll tax were unjustified , you have a very twisted view on demonstrators , this lot should not be trusted with the power that they have , they prove why daily and Priti Patel , she was sacked by Cameron for good reason .
When the means for peaceful protest is denied there is only one option , they know what's coming and are trying to stop it before it arrives !
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If you want to be right on and slip on a hemp cardigan, go and protest for whatever you want. I havenít got a problem with the gathering in Ďlockdowní and funnily enough neither would the police.
Itís the ****s in society who predictably exhibit the exact behaviour this bill came in for. Selfish ****s, risking other peopleís safety for going to work. Absolute vermin and the **** on societyís boot.
Iíve never understood shouting at the police at a protest, what are they supposed to do? They just work for the man
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Well , after the latest American AZ test results the EU are going to be desperate to get their hands on it now !
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Agree

Should not be there, stupid ****s

1. Round them all up, £5000 fine, that will go towards the PPE bill and damage thank you. Better still, spray them with dye, its pink this week, look out for the ****s

2. Inform their employers, what a **** you employ

There should be no social gatherings, some idiots just feel they have the right to take to the streets when they like, ****ing muppets!

And as for protests, when they are allowed, not ideal at all but if itís a peaceful one then fair play. Any rioting, hit them hard, set an example, please!

****ing human rights, you deserve to get treated like you act towards others for me, hit somebody, expect the same back, ridiculous!

Those ****s all over the van wanted dragging off and battering!

Like you Jon, I just get sick of seeing these ****s
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So the protest against the banning of peaceful protests has turned into bedlam. These same ****ing idiots wonder why measures need bringing in to begin with
Iím all for sticking it to the man and whatnot but ffs you wonder why the police donít feel the need to clump more of these ****s.
Ah well, theyíll all soon go back to their day jobs when we go to war with the Jerries again over vaccine supply and the enemy actually fight back.
Letís all throw figures around about unsolved rape and assault cases, then torch some police vans and smash up the nick to make it even less likely those crimes will be allocated the staff they deserve.


Stop the bloody earth, Iím getting off
****s
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   Old Thread  #2492 21 Mar 2021 at 3.18pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Nope, 47 million, though I had put that

Have now
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   Old Thread  #2491 21 Mar 2021 at 10.24am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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£47? For what part of it?

Surely that's not total costs
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Alex Salmon could of lost his liberty because of what she concocted , she should suffer the same fate ,poisonous woman.

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All to do with personalities. When Sturgeon first appeared on the scene I was impressed at first, now I find her an irritating Jimmy Kranky. Plenty of work for her in panto when lockdown has fully finished.

House of Lords needs doing away with or at minimum it needs a MAJOR rethink

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It costs £47 for the house of lords ? eh , to all those that get triggered by the sun and express etc calling people in the uk scroungers , this is where it peaks , parliament !

So if Nicola Sturgeon has to resign for misleading parliament , as most uk politicians have said , including Doris , why hasn't he and his bent cronies resigned as they have been found to mislead parliament every week ???
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One for the politicians amongst us lol

Well, I saw an interesting piece on the news this morning. It costs £47 million for the House of Lords, you know, those born with a silver spoon in their mouths

Thought I would have a quick google out of interest and see what the House of Commons costs, you know, the business men with invested interests who are supposed to represent the public, us commoners

The cost of running both Houses of Parliament in 2018/19 was £560.4 million Ė an above-inflation increase of 7.3% on the previous year

Those commoners can spend a bob or two £

I bet when Oliver Cromwell sorted that out, was it? I bet he could never imagine the shower of **** that we are in today
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I'm going to send Tazi's builders in
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Yes , we all know that there are pockets of corruption everywhere , but when the ones running the show are so obviously corrupt and seem to get away with it on a daily basis , it emboldens everyone with similar intentions !

And if anyone thinks that our government is concerned with regard to helping others out of poverty or guiding countries to democracy they are sorely mistaken , it's all about our economic foreign interests and always has been .

We are guided to vote in their interests to sustain the status quo by billionaire press and media owners and if anyone threatens the status quo they are smeared or not given a platform !
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fair enough - got to take care of your leafy suburbs eh?

as for PP - I'm going to send Tazi's builders in - that'll serve her right
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As you've probably read I'm more concerned about local matters, stuff that directly affects me and my family,
As I say to Spanker, **** is everywhere and it starts at a local level, it's not exclusive to those at the top.
Peace and love man.

When PP gets in I know two people on here who'll be able to do her a very expensive posh kitchen
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- I'll bring my cider flask

£200k might be **** all to you your lordship but for us public sector workers it's fantasy money

and it being just for temporary accommodation makes it worse!!! Pritti will want it all changed when she takes over.
(I wonder if you can get wallpaper with pictures of your favourite dictators on it...) ....

you're right of course on the typical of wealthy countries. I just wish we could be different for once. Yo know what they say 'give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, teach him how to fish and he'll eat forever' (if he uses the right bait of course!) . Maybe it needs updating - 'sell a man a fish and he'll be in your financial control for ever...'

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Typical approach by all wealthy countries, that's not to say I think that's acceptable.
This news is a bit patchy at the moment, wait until we find out what other countries are involved and I'll find a few to cherry pick and I'll pick on them.

BTW 200k is **** all and it's not his flat, it'll still be there when he's gone.
If you're going to buy me that pint you better start saving up, nothing is cheap in London
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of course - but it's the UK that's most relevant to us.

and it's typical of the selfish Tory approach - keep the poor under the thumb / boot so they 'depend' on the rich to look after them... like I said, not surprising but no less ****ty

meanwhile Boris spends £200 grand on refurbs for his flat while people can't afford the mortgage on an entire house that cost less than that. It's got to start winding you up at some point....

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Not just the UK it says wealthy countries. Not saying that makes it right but lets not single us out as being the only culprits. Assuming it's not fake news of course!
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I mean... this isn't necessarily surprising given who we have in charge right now, but it stinks nevertheless...

Uk blocking poorer nations from developing their own vaccine manufacture
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Those call centres are generally useless, but Iíd not hesitate for a second to allow my kids to have a tutor from India or Sri Lanka. After all, they more often than not leave white British kids behind in education.
The system itself is brilliant, we canít afford to tutor these kids and anyone prepared to work for minimum wage here thinks 8 beans make 5. The tutors also get help with their own costs and to help their families.
Young people here and abroad will suffer because of the ĎLondon officeí
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According to Hooper, every TSL session for the national tutoring programme costs £18.33, £9.50 of which pays for programme design, customer support, technology and finance in its London office, with £5.36 for tutor training and development at the Colombo office, and on average £3.07 per tutor per session. Hooper said the company makes 2% profit on each NTP session, which equates to 40p.

I'm all for keeping money within the UK but I suppose whether the costs would be viable?
The pupils have to pay 25% of the session (another debate in itself) so maybe this way makes it affordable?
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Yes..... the points the article is making are these
- this is taxpayers money that's gone to the private sector
- they are putting that money in their pockets and outsourcing the work and paying peanuts.
- why not invest this money at home with those schools
- that's your tax pounds going to enrich private companies.
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It's nothing new, not so much now but many companies had mainly Indian call centres for many years to save money.
Not saying it's right.............just saying.
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Underpaid and exploited I agree. The flip sid of the coin is these thick ****ing politicians may see that as a blue print to save costs
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Ignore that, Nike make trainers for under £1........
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Am I missing something here as I did speed read it. Is the problem that they are being under paid?
it's a minimum of £1.57 and the average is £3.02 which in Sri Lanka where they are based is 2.5 times the estimated equivalent graduate salary and is 15 times the minimum wage.
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£1.57

I may be looking at this from a different perspective. That does not surprise me one bit. I bet they would like to pay everybody in this country that if they had the chance. One thing for sure, I would love to pay those ****s that, you know, what they are worth
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Still think you're not having your trousers pulled down?

This link is about tutors from places like sri lanka as young as 17 are being used to teach maths for as little as £1.57 an hour under a flagship government scheme to teach maths to under privileged children in the UK.

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/mar/19/uk-tutoring-scheme-uses-sri-lankan-under-18s-paid-as-little-as-157-an-hour

This one is about how foreign and billionaire tax exiles have used furlough the enrich themselves even further

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/mar/19/uk-furlough-scheme-pays-out-millions-to-foreign-states-and-tax-exiles
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   Old Thread  #2468 19 Mar 2021 at 4.38pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Me too in an hour
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Those that make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable , JFK !
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Iím sure they do........And as long as they continue to not arrive in the small town I live in Iím happy.......canít stand the smell of bonfires ......
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Or not. Just turn up the nationalist mood music whilst achieving sweet FA, the mug's will lap it up.
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Well PP can sort it then......
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I know you're joking but can you imagine the consequences if it did happen
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Agreed
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I see Blojo is to get the AZ jab...we can but hope...Pretty please
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Man, I hope she gives me a good number but I donít want to eat insects..
Go priti.. up the blues 🏆🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑
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Her evilness has nothing to do with her gender.

I'm told she 'identifies as human' but I kid you not she's a bloody reptile.

When you're all wearing sacks with numbers on and tags on your ankles as you rush home to meet curfew then you will remember my warnings...
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They are pulling our pant's down on a daily basis , you are so naive !
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Have no not clicked yet? He is just jealous of her haircut
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EU just admitted that the AZ vaccine is safe , which they knew all along , Whatever game they were playing i think that our April vaccines have just gone to them !
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But they're not, and aren't going to be as we removed ourselves from the Dublin convention with no other plan, that's the reality suck it up. Now it's our problem soley, we've "taken back control"
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Thatís because France are fecking useless and allow it from their / there / theyíre coastline as fishie says. All them lads should be taken back to their / there / theyíre countries of origin once stopped in any European country......
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As a feral Brexiteer and member of government PP should take responsibility for making it more attractive to sneak into the UK and claim asylum. Failed to replace the Dublin convention agreement with ANYTHING when that went out the window when we "Got Brexit Done". A massive reason for the increase in channel crossings.
Still the mug's lap it up.
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Mal

Have you had the jab yet as your mysogonistic side is coming out

Yes she's playing to middle England both Labour and Tory.

Heres a simple answer get the Gendarme to trawl all the coastal towns and coast of France and no ID card, you either get deportation or claim asylum as the last time i looked France was a safe country. They will soon get their neighbouring countries lower down to intercept these poor unfortunate refugees and offer them a safe haven or deportation. But hey ho France cant even decide to take or store vaccines!

Hat, coat, UBER
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I said that many times last year and was told to back up my conspiracy theories ........

Quicker PP implements a harder way into the country the better.......we canít look after ourselves never mind more wrong uns claiming asylum!
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Nasty woman. Unashamedly playing to the xenophobic fears of the tory masses
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Boris and co are the voice of their corporate puppet masters , something that everyone should wake up too !
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Surely knowing whether you have had the jab or not should be all you need, not a condition of employment? I mean every interview I've ever had haven't asked if I've been vaccinated against x, y, or z
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Keep digging......
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Can't see anything wrong with it as a condition of employment, rather than forcing existing staff have it, which would be wrong.

Just another thing on the list if you want someone with half a brain on the staff,

relevant qualifications - tick

bit of experience - tick

covid vaccinated - tick

knows the difference between 'there' and 'they're' - tick

Easy.
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   Old Thread  #2445 18 Mar 2021 at 11.21am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Shame they wasnít implemented all them years ago then!
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Under her own laws , her parents would of been thrown out , She is the worst form of political slime ever manufactured , A wrong un !
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   Old Thread  #2443 18 Mar 2021 at 10.17am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
companies look to make vaccines mandatory

I hope ANY company that tries this is swamped in court cases for discrimination!

In other news I see PP is drawing up plans for illegal migrants to be removed from the country straight Away........
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They have surpassed my worst expectations since Boris took control , i would love to hear what hyperbole BB now has to say about these bent bas****s , we are in a dangerous place now , the perfect environment is being created for them and their bent mates to thrive !
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   Old Thread  #2441 18 Mar 2021 at 7.49am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
latest news
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Significant reduction in uk vaccines from March 29 th ,,,, hmmmm , maybe the day that the EU roll out a significant amounts of az vaccine .
Looks like the uk will get hardly any vaccines in April , i wonder what the deal was !
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The report into sexual abuse in football has come to a damning conclusion so , long overdue ,,,

Time to finish the enquiry into paedophilia @ Westminster ! 4th time lucky eh !
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Yep Israel have built up many contact's in high level positions for political leverage around the world , for various reasons , their success at procuring covid vaccines is the proof
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Try putting others first , team game lad , i have only had 1 day off work !
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It's who you know and the size of your wallet as always.

Yes from the top right down to your local councillors.
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60% of Israel's population vaccinated with the Pfizer vaccine, by far the world leader.
Reports are they've paid $30-$47 per dose and allowed Pfizer access to the populations health data...
Prime Minister Netanyahu said of Pfizer CEO "Albert Bourla is a great friend of Israel"

It's who you know and the size of your wallet as always.
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Good news !

Although i feel sh** today , all my fishing bits have arrived this morning , well all except my braid , and i think i have finally found a hook that i can confidently say "will not be opened out or snapped " i have lost so many nice fish over the years in hit n hold situations on rivers , when you wait sooo long for a take , it's gut wrenching !
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And people should rush out for a vaccine......
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Just in the phone box putting my cape on , had to wait for Boris though !

The person i know who is running the vaccine centre has said that there are no vaccinations this week until Saturday and they have not been told why , a lot of people are having side effects though , the 5 people i personally know who have had the az vaccine have had mild to moderate side effects , i'm off work today i feel tired , then i feel like i dont have the energy to walk upstairs , headache and sweats this morning , had tingling and a lack of feeling in my left cheek lip and gum since the vaccine , the lack of energy has built over the last 2 weeks , i had the vaccine around 3 weeks ago this seems to be quite common , more so in the younger bracket that are having the vaccine now , the 4 people that i personally know who have had the phyzer jab seem ok . the earliest to have the phyzer jab was my Dad who had it on the 15th Dec , with the follow up 3 weeks later !
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Delay AZ so Pfizer in Germany can make it at a profit? Where's Spanker when you need him
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I assumed you found that bit interesting.
No I was more interested in why this is likely to be political and for that reason your link is better and I will use elsewhere.

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Reported this morning AZ 27 blood clots Pfizer 25 no shutdown on Pfizer.

Macron suffering in polls tries to push vaccination farce onto AZ, Merkle just lost 2 seats in local election so lets shift the blame.

New Pfizer plant extension on line by end of month in...................Germany

Why buy a non profit vaccine from AZ when you can buy a profit making one Pfizer

Its not just politicians on the make in this country, its not because of Brexit its politics and **** peoples lives.
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You linked to an article, the headline of which was something about the EU sulking over Brexit ...

I assumed you found that bit interesting.

Lots in Italy pushing for the Russian vaccine, which may well arrive. So much for lack of sovereignty under the jackboot of EU rule, eh? Every EU state is free to **** things up as it sees fit.

Edit: Magrini isn't even the Italian health minister. He's the head of the medicines regulator. Did you get that website off Wayne?

Same story ... without the brexit BS

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-astrazeneca-idUSKBN2B80KK
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Never said they did
That's "political decisions" for you
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I didn't focus on the Raab bit. I was more shocked when I read this and thought of you in Italy as it enters lockdown. Surely that's no laughing matter?

Italian Health Minister Nicola Magrini says decision to reject UK's AstraZeneca jab is "political"

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Two wrongs don't make a right.
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Probably is a political decision, if you've not got enough product through poor procurement, suspension deflects the real reason. Seem to remember we wouldn't make face masks compulsory because we didn't have the equipment. That was a political decision you could say cost lives.
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Raab trying to say it's because of the UK's success post -brexit?

Yeah, right you are mate.

Not many in the EU view the AZ vaccine as having any connection with the UK at all. It's never been referred to as the 'British vaccine'.

It's ill informed, it's dangerous, but it's got **** all to do with Brexit - EU member states are still shaking their heads and laughing about that.
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There is definitely something fishy going on , but it seems beyond belief , what is the real reason , that we the UK are doing so well with the vaccine and leaving them behind they then feel the need to condemn the vaccine as unsafe , when its as safe as the phyzer vaccine ? maybe even condemning their countries to further lockdowns , could they be this petty !

Or do they know something we don't , i have zero trust in our lot !
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Politics costing lives?
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Just a thought. If law and order is so important, then those who enforce that law and order must apply the very same. They cannot exercise their functions outside those laws. They cannot operate outside of common law.
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No idea, you'd have to ask the judge if that day ever happened
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Same as Jon, fight fire with fire for me
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I thought there was something strange

Didnít bite either, ah well, least I tried
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I don't remember similar levels of outrage when the 'football lads' were out 'statue guarding' with their defensive swastika tattoos and their protective monkey chants.

I think I even remember someone suggesting the poor lad pissing on the memorial to a dead copper probably didn't know what it was.
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He had help from a Year 10
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Surprisingly I agree with quite a bit of that Mal, well written too
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It is very sad what has happened and this has now moved away from the initial vigil and is now a beast for the usual suspects to attack society, the government and Police on.

Exactly that for me too
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Responding to a few at once.

Never once suggested that rioting was justified. It isn't. My understanding is that breaking of covid rules carries a fine. Not water cannons or being set fire to / punched in the teeth.... I've always said that those who break the rules should be prosecuted. No change there. The police are entrusted to preserve order - not to escalate violence.

I'd argue that 'bringing back police brutality' is talking bollox, but each to their own. Some people might argue that it never really went away.

I outlined a number of factors that made it simple enough (to anyone with a bit of sense) to see that given the circumstances and the involvement of the Met police, it was not surprising that the event turned sour. They (and the original organisers - who subsequently called for the event to be called off) were asked by the high court to try and find a solution to a covid safe vigil and didn't. Then they were tasked under ridiculous conditions to police it. Red rag to a bull.

And perfect for the wider agenda of curtailing protest rights. As said, thrown under the bus by Boris/ Patel.

Never once suggested that because 1 met officer is charged with murder that they all are. But again, if you can't see that as being important in the lead up to what happened then .....

As for the sentencing for rape and for vandalising statues, yes one is a minimum and one a maximum. Out of interest, which statue is worth double even the most minor (in the legal systems hierarchy) sexual assault? Just wondering.

Jon - absolutely agree. Some of the stuff on here has been embarrassing.

Edit - fishie, also agree. It's clearly been the case at too many rally's / protests for a long time. Used to be the same at football with the rent a mobs using it as a vehicle to facilitate their stupid violent tendencies. Now it's organised demonstrations.

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It is very sad what has happened and this has now moved away from the initial vigil and is now a beast for the usual suspects to attack society, the government and Police on.

i have attended numerous marches before lockdown and it is easy to spot the usual suspects but why would someone attend a peaceful vigil with spray paint and a weapon to smash glass.





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   Old Thread  #2410 16 Mar 2021 at 5.06pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Very sad what has happened and these behaviours just tarnish it

I guess the lockdown is causing a lot of frustration and unrest for people but thats where an element of self control and discipline is required. People just think they can take to the streets have a riot and inflict pain on other people, like I said, disgraceful behaviour for me. How's about smack each one in the teeth and see if they like it!

Like I also said, they should have rounded them all up, took their pictures and sent them to their employers then they can see what kind of characters they have working for them, thatís after a £5000 fine, muppets
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   Old Thread  #2409 16 Mar 2021 at 5.00pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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neither can I

Brief prece shouting in police officers faces from 2 foot away during pandemic, spraying ACAB on police carriers, smashing wing mirror of said carrier and large crowd being lead by agitators from the bandstand shouting over floral tributes "no justice no peace **** the police!"

Funny i haven't seen any of that footage on mainstream news outlets.
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   Old Thread  #2408 16 Mar 2021 at 4.51pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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26 police officers injured but a mainly peaceful vigil

Canít get the link to work but my point entirely. Nobody should have to stand there and take the punishment from some moron without being able to give it back, so wrong

Iím all for body cameras and fairness but they should be able to deal with ****s like ****s for me, simple.

What the **** is this country coming to, full of ****ing snowflakes!

On about putting undercover cops in pubs to keep an eye on females now, WTF

I hope I donít grab one of their arses by mistake
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   Old Thread  #2406 16 Mar 2021 at 4.41pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
One for the face bookers hopefully works

https://www.facebook.com/basia.wojciechowska/posts/10218311710843929

Quiet, respectful vigil for a murdered girl

26 police officers injured but a mainly peaceful vigil
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Breaks my ladies heart every time she sees a picture of that poor mite.
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Love women, always will. Can't be doing with people whoever they are, taking advantage of situations such as this for their own ends and using it for a fight or to peddle their extreme views.
That c*** should hang for what he did! Everyone else that rapes/murders women and children should suffer a similar fate. But no, we can't allow that because of their human rights. That's what is embarrassing!!
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   Old Thread  #2403 16 Mar 2021 at 3.12pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'd not heard of Emily Jones before, just read about it, that's awful
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   Old Thread  #2402 16 Mar 2021 at 3.09pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I've heard loads of women going on about getting grief from blokes who hate women .. and I thought 'Eh?'

Reading some posts on here I think 'Oh, yeah, see what you mean'

100s of jackbooted feminists? Rioting in the streets? Water canons?

Get a grip lads, it's embarrassing.
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   Old Thread  #2401 16 Mar 2021 at 2.39pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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FFS. You've been whinging you t*ts off for 12 months about people breaking Covid rules, yet you now think it's acceptable for 100's of jack booted feminists to start stirring the pot. You break the law you get arrested. Why should they be treated unequally? To suggest otherwise would be sexist!
Kill the Bill, ACAB, BLM, Defund the police, all chanted by those idiots today. Complete d*cks using any excuse for a skirmish.
Where was the vigil for Emily Jones? Child sexual exploitation scandal Rotherham, Oxford, Telford etc?
Nowhere because it doesn't suit the left leaning narrative!

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Fred West was a builder, doesn't mean all builders are mass murderers
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The warning signs of facism

Powerful and continuing nationalism- look at the amount of flags behind ministers in interviews at home
Disdain for human rights- Priti Patel
Identification of enemies as a unifying cause- See the EU
Supremacy of the military- - bills being brought in to exempt armed forces from war crimes
Rampant sexism
Controlled mass media- BBC castrated. Compliant, right wing papers/media who live abroad
Obsession with national security- 40% increase in nuclear spending. Police being given unfettered powers in new bills
Religion and government intertwined
Corporate power protected- Huge companies not being taxed properly
Labour power suppressed- See public sector, nurses, teachers. Anti-union legislation
Disdain for intellectuals & the arts- Free speech debate. Erasmus project.
Obsession with crime & punishment- Priti Patel (again)
Rampant cronyism & corruption- PPE scandal, Test and Trace, Russian Oligarch appointed to House of Lords
Fraudulent elections. Tory plans to alter electoral boundaries.

Welcome to GB 2021
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You don't half talk some bollox at times don't you

As for the Met police. A woman murdered by one of them.

So because a serving police officer committed murder its OK for people to riot about it on the streets. Pity it wasn't a school teacher, they should blow 100 a day away with a water canon or set them on fire, probably the other way round if they had any sympathy for them
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I'd like to see the justification for increasing our nuclear warheads by close on 50%, whilst we'd struggle to put an effective war fighting division in the field
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   Old Thread  #2396 16 Mar 2021 at 11.42am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
https://youtu.be/s-RuLLPb-1E
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This is satire........ right?
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What about men's rights and feelings? I've never ever hurt a woman in my life and yet I'm being labelled as being part of the problem.
A young women on TV was questioned about tarring all men with the same brush. Her reply was she didn't have to time to differentiate. Not the attitude I warm to.
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   Old Thread  #2393 16 Mar 2021 at 8.38am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Those bloody women protestors need sandbagging
Should be thankful they were allowed away from the domestic appliances long enough for the return journey
Nobody has ever been assaulted by the police while ironing
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Got to admit , starting to get on my ti** a bit now , the mild tingling and slight numbness on the left side of my face ,mouth and lip since the the vaccine , 2 weeks ago now !
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   Old Thread  #2391 16 Mar 2021 at 8.12am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
1 in a 100 rape claims [when they do come forward , so , could be double that figure ] end in conviction , not much of a deterrent for your average rapist , same with burglaries and the majority of crime nowadays , your lucky and in the minority if you even see a copper !
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Fair point and I'm sure the laws against women will be reviewed and strengthened.

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But that's not quite true though, maximum sentencing can be up to life, and starting sentences of around 5 years. The maximum sentencing for damaging statues is 10 years, probably with a starting point of around a suspended sentence
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None taken

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You make a good point about 10/5 years for statues/rape but the rest is all a bit put together in my opinion.
Sorry Mal no offence intended. Peace and love man
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   Old Thread  #2386 15 Mar 2021 at 11.24pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It's not hard to see the real issue if you can get past the usual pseudo macho bull****. Water cannons? Set fire to a woman in her coat! Ffs - put your ****ing Andy McNab colouring books away for a minute and grow up.

If there's any doubt about the root of the issues, try this for size.

The new crime laws include a sentence of up to 10 years for vandalising memorial statues. There are rapists who serve only 5 years in jail. So this government cares more about a ****ing statue of winston Churchill than it does about the safety of your wives and daughters.

As for the Met police. A woman murdered by one of them. Another one today 'removed from people facing duties' for sharing a ****ing joke about it on social media. .... they were approached by the original organisers of the vigil with a covid safe plan but refused to compromise. Little wonder the thing went south so quickly is it? Patel has said she wants an independent report. Just like the numerous ones regarding the institutional racism - with no effective follow up.

And Boris... he threw them under the bus as per usual. Sent them out to enforce his cabinets lockdown laws while he sits at home with his candle outside. Pathetic.
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It certainly needed some rebalancing but she took it too far.
As for opening stuff up for competition how does that work with the trains and water. I have no choice of companies when I get on the local train, bus or who supplies my water
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For balance , look at what the Banking crisis brought us , how many years of austerity ??? where were the sweeping changes that were and still are required to keep them in check , don't swallow everything that you are told when their is an obvious agenda for those that recite it

Edited , from the 1970's strikes ,
As former Fleet Street editor Derek Jameson later recalled of press coverage of the "crisis", "we pulled every dirty trick in the book; we made it look like it was general, universal and eternal, when it was in reality scattered, here and there, and no great problem".
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   Old Thread  #2383 15 Mar 2021 at 8.40pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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In regards to Maggie was she the worst or just the woman to sort out the mismanagement of the seventies with unions blackmailing everyone, weak pandering Governments and the British worker wanting top pay for 2nd rate work. British Leyland?

I entered the workforce during the winter of discontent 1978/9. I remember the 3 day week my father had to work, 4 hours on 4 hours off power cuts. My first job was pushing Cory frames full of rubbish from Clapham Junction to Clapham Common and throwing bags onto 6ft high rubbish mountains and watching them be attacked by rats. That was under a Labour government on the side of the workers and unions! Things have improved in this country but watching the news now I sometimes wonder ! 👍🏻


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   Old Thread  #2382 15 Mar 2021 at 8.27pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Here in Bolton we had a firm that produces the material for ppe gowns , they could not understand why Boris was ignoring them when they said they could make a large percentage of the gowns required for our nhs and eventually signed a contract to supply the USA !

possibly no money in it for their bent mates ???
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Time will tell the true story !
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Yep ,Sad but true the tory party knew that it would serve their self interests to eliminate our manufacturing base and along with it our unions , fu** the collateral damage
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If they don't want it give to someone like Brazil or a number of other countries.

Other subject. Maggie was the worst of the lot
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Sorry back to vaccines


Just watched BBC news where they stated 27 cases of AZ have had blood clots in Europe 👍🏻 But Pfizer have had 25, they are not suspending Pfizer though 🙀 so just using UK figures 23,000,000 jabs 52 cases, or if your in Europe 27 cases and no mention of Pfizer. Again blood clots not outside the normal parameters. So youíve ****ed up your order, slagged the vaccine off out of spite, your population is turning against you, what do you do? Suspend the vaccine for 48 hours in Macrons case 😷😷😷 to make AZ the bad boy👍🏻

Returning to the current discussion

This country destroyed industry years ago, both Labour and Conservative, letís play the money markets and build service industries instead. What happened at first lockdown no industries to repurpose and go cap in hand begging throughout the world for PPE and the likes. Leaving us open to being ripped off by our own government, our own supposed captains of industries and other countries supplying sub standard equipment and supplies at sky high prices

FFS I might vote green next time as they couldnít possibly **** this country up worse than Labour and Conservatives
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Framed a political decision on UK manufacturing and industry as "taking on the unions" it was a trojan horse in reality that the Alf Garnett's lapped up. A nation of bankers and shop keepers was the goal (sure there's a song in there)
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1 in 4 manufacturing jobs were lost in Thatchers first term as she chased a boom and boost economy based on a housing market and the city via privatisation , then again Blair wasn't much better as he thought that anything that was to be manufactured could be done so elsewhere cheaper , Bolton had a lot of the countries heavy engineering , all gone now !
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So true

Pathetic decisions by pathetic people sadly, you make a change and further down the line you get the results, what a mess!

Manufacturing in this country is a dying breed sadly and these governments have just stood by, clueless. When we are a nation of imports and sales and there is not much left we know who to thank, the ****ing stupid politicians
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   Old Thread  #2374 15 Mar 2021 at 7.19pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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From the angle i'm looking from he's compliant
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In reply to Post #2373 I agree with that
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It's like its a British disease fear of long term investment in critical industries. Seem far more comfortable flogging critical industries off to asset strippers.
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I have worked in the steel industry and I will tell you now it is complete and utter Mickey Mouse

Ex British steel, one of the pinnacles of British engineering, what a ****ing shambles, mis-management of the highest level, criminal in fact. Horizontal buyouts that have not payed off have left them in billions of debt, all they have done is raped it for its technology and took it all abroad, total embarrassment

Whatís the government going to do, keep it ticking over with tax payers money to keep the employment figures down and try and save face

Should have backed it from the start and kept all the foreign Investors , thieves out
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So 12 UK steel plants with thousands of employees is at risk after another grubby London based financial services outfit goes bust, Greensill. Suggestion is some of the hundred's of millions of pounds debts are UK government backed.
How embarrassing having David Cameron as an advisor with a share stake.
Pants down
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So , i can see where they are coming from and from what i have seen and read today and yesterday the majority see it from my perspective .

I always knew you were a woman G
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It's hard for men to see this from a womens perspective , but the facts of the matter are , a copper killed and chopped up a woman , also only 1 in a 100 rape claims end in a conviction the lowest ever !

So , i can see where they are coming from and from what i have seen and read today and yesterday the majority see it from my perspective .

The daily express , Mail and Sun etc warp the perspectives of their readers , the time for a change is coming , try n get your head round it , you will be better off !
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From the angle i'm looking from he's compliant .

The other night, mainly people of an age where they haven't had a vaccine, a dangerous time where covid is wanting to mutate into other variants and no social distancing. Police are damned if they do uphold the current laws and damned if they don't.

Shut up !


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I would've said that was very defiant

The other night, mainly people of an age where they haven't had a vaccine, a dangerous time where covid is wanting to mutate into other variants and no social distancing. Police are damned if they do uphold the current laws and damned if they don't.

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Not very defiant there defiant one , and when they bring out laws to protect themselves from critical voices like they are trying to do TODAY ,

You could be arrested for holding up traffic or being too noisy , on a protest .

This lot are not fit to wield power !
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The whole lot of them should have been arrested and fined; in a so called civilised society you canít just pick and choose when to follow the law.

No one is above the law, and it's about time it started to be applied.
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Ha! Your fake account has been unveiled!

Welcome to the forum Priti
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Get the water canons out and wash the filth off the streets that goes for anyone no matter what sex, colour or religion. You break the the law you get punished. Don't like it? Tuff, do as your f****** told!!!
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Selfish ****s the lot of them!
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On an alternate note. Whatís people thoughts on all these woman rioting in London then, and a few blokes too!. And Boris says it could have been handled better, what a ****ing muppet. Lockdown, shouldnít have been there in the first place, should have rounded them up, fined everyone of them and informed their employers, disgraceful

Bring back police brutality for ****s like that, her with the fur coat on kicking off, should have sprayed the **** with Parva, or set her coat on fire...while she was still in it

Deal with ****s like ****s for me. We are on a serious downhill slope here. You canít react until you have been seriously assaulted by a ****
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Your word is worth nothing , your full of sh**
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Shut up Mal you joker......

I donít put my whole life on here spanky, you not learn the last time.....but I will tell you I have down ****loads of tests........
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   Old Thread  #2358 14 Mar 2021 at 7.51pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Had covid twice , ah doctor Wayne , can't ever remember you saying that you were self isolating !
Also , i can't ever remember you saying you were having a test ,
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   Old Thread  #2357 14 Mar 2021 at 7.26pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Not with so many people having that attitude it isn't

Selfish. End of.
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   Old Thread  #2356 14 Mar 2021 at 7.00pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Iím 46 and have Had covid twice I think.......why do I need a vaccine? Donít give me any of that new strains, selfish crap, passing it on rubbish!......nearly 25 million of the 98% percent average death age groups have been vaccinated. Forget the selfish ****ers over 60 who wonít have the vaccine and donít forget the kids under 10 who have probably all had it, country is good to go......
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   Old Thread  #2355 14 Mar 2021 at 5.00pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Could be right, influenced by a preacher of truth with a hook for a hand and one eye type maybe.
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   Old Thread  #2354 14 Mar 2021 at 4.53pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I think Wayne has put too much belief in his dodgy sites that form his very strange opinions !
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   Old Thread  #2353 14 Mar 2021 at 4.36pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #2352 14 Mar 2021 at 4.31pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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What are you actually scared of
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   Old Thread  #2351 14 Mar 2021 at 4.12pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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As I read it they are all citing the 4 cases of blood clots which 1 was fatal. Having read some articles on this at least 2 have stated that this not out of normal parameters for the general population without AZ jab! (BBC and Sky news)

Mainly suspension of jabs by EU countries, slow roll out and lack of stock, one for the conspiracy thread if Bill Gates hasnít stolen that one as well😀😀😀
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   Old Thread  #2350 14 Mar 2021 at 4.00pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Said it before mate, she's dangerous that one. Wouldn't be surprised to see her succeed Boris and then in a big reveal in parliament (once we are totally under her totalitarian rule of course) she peels off her outer skin to reveal some ****ing nazi / lizard person hybrid...

And the hypocrisy of Boris with his candle on the doorstep whilst the police carry out their jackboot tactics on a group of women in line with his Home Secretary's agenda....

Just another example to add to the list.

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   Old Thread  #2349 14 Mar 2021 at 3.52pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No I wasnít for the reason I have stated and I donít have to justify my rights About freedom of choice......
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   Old Thread  #2348 14 Mar 2021 at 3.48pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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But you were never going to have one, were you?

Let's not pretend this is some sort of motive for your half-wittedness, you're just looking for an excuse to do what you like.

Crack on ... Do what you want, but don't jump on stuff to make you feel justified.
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   Old Thread  #2347 14 Mar 2021 at 2.56pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Who knows but itís the reason I wonít be having one! Few more years testing needed for me personally.
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   Old Thread  #2346 14 Mar 2021 at 2.43pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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We've administered the most AZ. Why no reports here, time for a conspiracy theory?
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   Old Thread  #2345 14 Mar 2021 at 2.35pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The people who had blood clots /
Norway said this happened in people under 50. In three cases, these had involved clotting in the brain. In one of them, it was fatal.
The Norwegian Medicines Agency said the four people under 50 who had the AstraZeneca jab all had a reduced number of blood platelets. It added: ďPeople under the age of 50 who have received the AstraZeneca vaccine and feel increasingly unwell more than three days after vaccination, and who notice larger or smaller blue spots in the skin (skin haemorrhages) must consult a doctor or out-of-hours medical service as soon as possible.
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   Old Thread  #2344 14 Mar 2021 at 1.44pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Ireland now suspended the roll out of the Oxford vaccine the latest in a growing list.
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   Old Thread  #2343 14 Mar 2021 at 12.16pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!

The slippery slope continues

Paving the way to create an environment to be able to get away with anything . Priti fu**ing awful Patel's new anti demonstration laws , the icing on the cake after the "spy cops " bill ,where 10 years in prison for causing ďserious annoyanceĒ by protesting would now be possible and could be voted through parliament this Tuesday
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   Old Thread  #2342 14 Mar 2021 at 6.58am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Have a bath lad , should sort you out !

Is that based on past experience
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Have a bath lad , should sort you out !

Looks like Priti Patels enforcers have made themselves unpopular on Clapham common tonight !
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   Old Thread  #2340 13 Mar 2021 at 9.18pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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There's no way they could've taken money for that. As Scozza says there's plenty of that in the pipeline.

As for the missing Corona thread I suppose Boris had something to do with that
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   Old Thread  #2339 13 Mar 2021 at 9.08pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I smell a rat not coffee, the financial rewards will come, certain
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   Old Thread  #2338 13 Mar 2021 at 8.57pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Bumped back up , it might get disappeared like the coronavirus thread ?????????????
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I reckon she could of got at least £10 million for that interview and she asked for £ 0 !

Smell the coffee !
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   Old Thread  #2336 13 Mar 2021 at 8.49pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Interesting Ken,

See where we are when she has got what she wants out of it all ££££££££££££££££££

As I see it, nothing but a publicity stunt, pathetic ****. Letís see what happens in a year or two, we can always bump this back up

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   Old Thread  #2335 13 Mar 2021 at 8.42pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Fromage still pushing for the peerage he thinks he deserves Mr Anti Establishment. Tony Benn he certainly isn't.
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One of the rare occasions I agree with you. Just wish they'd given the individuals of the royal family they were not happy with a right good bollockin and gone. No need to get the circus involved IMO.

@Ken
Two sides to every story, as I say there was no need to involve the circus.
A good time to bury bad news though?
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Can't understand why everyone is so bothered , really , Harry want's to take his wife somewhere as he thinks it's a better environment for his family , whoopy doo , fu** me , really who gives a fu** , move on !
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They certainly are
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   Old Thread  #2331 13 Mar 2021 at 5.40pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
No time for Farage but this time he is spot on.

N.F. - Markle and Harry beneath contempt>
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   Old Thread  #2330 13 Mar 2021 at 5.38pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
The usual suspects
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   Old Thread  #2329 13 Mar 2021 at 5.27pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Brilliant
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I've not detected any blind loyalty in anyone's posts

Edit
But to be fair I mostly speed read this thread.
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Needs thinning out from the taxpayer payroll the Royal Family. It's a constitutional monarchy not a fookin gravy train for a load of hangers on and irrelevants.
I've not seen Harry say he wants peace and quiet and that's why he's left THE FIRM. I've seen him say what most husband's and father's would, I'm removing my family from the toxic situation. Then cracking on to make the best life for my family.
Blind loyalty from the usual suspects for the establishment as always though
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   Old Thread  #2326 13 Mar 2021 at 3.52pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Talking of Australia and Sky LINK
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My network don't charge , or they said they were not going too , however i will check before i go ,

Just hoping it's a blip , but the number of uk covid cases went up last week from the previous week and i expect them to do so again next week with schools adding to the numbers !
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I was hoping you wasn't prepared to pay the roaming charges
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You , more than most need guidance , that is more than apparent after our exchanges over the last year and i know you don't like admitting it .
And just for you , i will make sure that i have the capability to update you regularly

Don't worry , i won't desert you !
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By snowflakes do you mean racist, politically incorrect right wingers? Not a term I would use.

Looks like Italy is likely to go into another lockdown, no wonder they wasn't keen sending vaccines to Australia.

I hope this Meghan/Harry thing quietens down soon. They've had their say so now they can **** off and get some peace quiet that they claim to want, maybe enjoy some trees, birds, insects, grass and the sky but maybe be best to keep away from France
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