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   Old Thread  #1809 17 Jan 2021 at 10.33pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Phil Spector has died in prison.

Not really an RIP - he was a musical genius producing some amazing songs and defining his own sound, but as a human being, a real arse hole. Abusive, manipulative and eventually a murderer.

Still - an excuse to hear the best pop song ever (imho)

https://youtu.be/jSPpbOGnFgk
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   Old Thread  #1808 17 Jan 2021 at 7.14pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Who dares wins
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   Old Thread  #1807 17 Jan 2021 at 7.13pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Last word is yours........
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   Old Thread  #1806 17 Jan 2021 at 7.08pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Surely youíd know mr SAS
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   Old Thread  #1805 17 Jan 2021 at 7.07pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Journalism isnít sad.......you thrive on fake radical news.....it needs reporting.....
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   Old Thread  #1804 17 Jan 2021 at 7.07pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Still sad enough to spend your time doing it though eh wazza
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   Old Thread  #1803 17 Jan 2021 at 7.04pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I hope your not spying on me too

Busted
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   Old Thread  #1802 17 Jan 2021 at 7.04pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Bollox spanky.......

Geeki.......reporting and fishing.......
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   Old Thread  #1801 17 Jan 2021 at 7.00pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Only thing we are sure of is that your sad enough to stalk peoples Facebook pages.
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   Old Thread  #1800 17 Jan 2021 at 6.51pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Made me laugh that
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   Old Thread  #1799 17 Jan 2021 at 6.51pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The annoying itch on your ball sack is what you represent to me , every now n then , it needs putting straight !

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   Old Thread  #1797 17 Jan 2021 at 6.46pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Yes radicalised Geeki......that includes spanky........you two ainít got a clue what I REALLY think of everything as I donít share my personal opinion on here for all to see........I just wind you ****s up each day with The different things I read and see. You then ASSUME (you like that word) I agree with what i post.......Baited my friend......baited........


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   Old Thread  #1796 17 Jan 2021 at 6.42pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Well i know you dont you bigoted old fart , you just proved everything that i have said , thanks for that !


I wondered why Bernie Sanders stood down quietly , looks like he made a pact with Biden and now is poised to become chairman of the Senate Budget Committee. He has vowed to use his position to enact his progressive agenda on healthcare, climate, infrastructure spending, & cutting defense spending. A man to represent the people , at last , a decent man with integrity

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   Old Thread  #1795 17 Jan 2021 at 6.38pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yes of course
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   Old Thread  #1794 17 Jan 2021 at 6.30pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Have you ever considered no one gives a **** what you think?

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   Old Thread  #1793 17 Jan 2021 at 6.29pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Careful he might call the counter terrorism unit on you
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   Old Thread  #1792 17 Jan 2021 at 6.28pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Have you ever considered that no one gives a **** about your stance?
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   Old Thread  #1791 17 Jan 2021 at 6.17pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!

Well , my stance hasn't change from the start of this thread and the covid thread , i started highlighting what i thought and still do , how corrupt and incompetent this government is and the corporate and establishment powers that created it , slowly those that criticized me and those with my ideology have woken up to the obvious , as it has become all to apparent that it's true , SADLY !
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   Old Thread  #1790 17 Jan 2021 at 6.11pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Wayne doesnít agree with someoneís opinions so they are radicalised.

Coming from someone that will support trump no matter what, thinks 5G is the cause of coronavirus, but also that coronavirus doesnít exist and adamantly believes qanon theory
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   Old Thread  #1789 17 Jan 2021 at 5.50pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Didnít have to tell you I had a peak, but I did as it wasnít going to a big secret from covert ops........your radicalised end of.......
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   Old Thread  #1788 17 Jan 2021 at 3.46pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I dropped in to see if there was anyone new or if anyone had won an argument..................no change
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   Old Thread  #1787 17 Jan 2021 at 3.44pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Stalking on Facebook = spending too much time thinking of people you donít even know from a carp forum.
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   Old Thread  #1786 17 Jan 2021 at 3.43pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Spying...

Wonder what you must think of wayneís not so covert ops then...
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   Old Thread  #1785 17 Jan 2021 at 3.42pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I really donít Geeki, just like keeping you boys honest and humble.........
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   Old Thread  #1784 17 Jan 2021 at 3.40pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Nope. I just looked in to see what Boris has ****ed up today

And found you, spying

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   Old Thread  #1783 17 Jan 2021 at 3.38pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Oh look. Someone got a pm
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   Old Thread  #1782 17 Jan 2021 at 3.37pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You spend too much of your time infatuated by us
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   Old Thread  #1781 17 Jan 2021 at 3.36pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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PMSL

Nice one Wayne
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   Old Thread  #1780 17 Jan 2021 at 2.43pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Evidence but not fact checked.......more conspiracy theories from Boltonís finest ......

Yeah yeah Geeki, once again Iím just proving you talk **** like your Bessie spanky.......
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   Old Thread  #1779 17 Jan 2021 at 2.41pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Anyway i'm going working on my motorbike
Bet wayne already knew that
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Yep , it's a tough crowd here !

Some strive to expose the truth and facts no matter who it involves , others seem to have tantrums when you do so ! some just want to bullsh** people . What it has shown up , as has the coronavirus thread is peoples naiveties with regard to politics and the media in the face of all the evidence !


Anyway i'm going working on my motorbike !
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   Old Thread  #1777 17 Jan 2021 at 2.32pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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After youíd mentioned it. Thought Iíd have a look. I have an interest in spanker. Just in case we need to pool our evidence for a restraining order
Good to know youíre closely following my every move though...

I must really have got under your skin for you to be stalking me about. Am I a special case or do you have other people you stalk?
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   Old Thread  #1776 17 Jan 2021 at 2.27pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Failed attempted bailout number 148 !

Put a bit of distance between now and your earlier post's lad

Anyway , looks like Biden made a deal with Bernie Sanders , who is about to become chairman of the Sen Budget Committee. He has vowed to use his position to enact his progressive agenda on healthcare, climate, infrastructure spending, & cutting defense spending.

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   Old Thread  #1775 17 Jan 2021 at 2.21pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Guess our definitions of weird are different though eh. But then I never click on peopleís profiles on here tbh such is the lack of interest on my part



Really.......
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   Old Thread  #1774 17 Jan 2021 at 2.20pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Especially when they might get a Facebook visit from carpforum echoís finest
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   Old Thread  #1773 17 Jan 2021 at 2.16pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No wins arguments on here. Just a handful of people airing their opinion and receiving abuse.
That's why you hardly get anyone new joining in
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   Old Thread  #1772 17 Jan 2021 at 2.06pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Try reading post 1765........quite A simple explanation for a simple guy to understand I would have thought......obviously not.......

I call it Independent journalism spanky......you know the same bollox you link too trying to dig up dirt on your mates in government ......
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   Old Thread  #1771 17 Jan 2021 at 2.06pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!

Sad really , you can't win an argument legitimately , so you go trolling through facebook in your desperation for a bit of dirt ! your a bit of a creep Billy !
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   Old Thread  #1770 17 Jan 2021 at 2.04pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Well just slightly there. Bit weird to go look up someoneís name and then search their Facebook isnít it, when the only place you interact with them is on this forum and you have no interest in them...

Guess our definitions of weird are different though eh. But then I never click on peopleís profiles on here tbh such is the lack of interest on my part.

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   Old Thread  #1769 17 Jan 2021 at 1.58pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hardly weirdo, no different to clicking your profile on here to see what you post.......

You donít interest me one bit

Thatís good then, will unblock you now........

Queue ya pal spanky the silly sausage Commenting or providing a bull**** link......
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   Old Thread  #1768 17 Jan 2021 at 1.55pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Ah so you put me in your weirdo category did you. Why the **** would I look on your Facebook profile? You donít interest me one bit

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   Old Thread  #1767 17 Jan 2021 at 1.54pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Wrong.......I blocked you so you canít see me once I told you I had looked at your rants.......nothing more nothing less Sherlock.......
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   Old Thread  #1766 17 Jan 2021 at 1.52pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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And then you blocked me because you knew you couldnít resist checking my profile more than once.

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   Old Thread  #1765 17 Jan 2021 at 1.48pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You still mentioning that.........I was merely checking if you spout the same **** on there as you do on here.......I can confirm you do.......
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   Old Thread  #1764 17 Jan 2021 at 1.41pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Pretty sure itís only you there wayne. The geezer that canít resist looking at other peopleís Facebook profiles so had to block them
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   Old Thread  #1763 17 Jan 2021 at 1.29pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Make it up as you go along Geeki but you were nailed.......

Works both ways, you talk and comment ***** and others answer for the fun of it.......
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   Old Thread  #1762 17 Jan 2021 at 1.26pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Not quite sure you can count any catches when itís just people laughing at you can you really

ďOooo Iíll wind people up and get a reactionĒ

Reaction: look at this idiot over here

ďOooo look i wound some people up because they laughed at meĒ

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You hanging, you Swerved answering like corbyn swerved no10.......as you were spanky, back in ya box......

I think your contribution in the ďcan we go fishingĒ thread showed how much people listen to your radical views which are 1152 posts of pure hate and bile meant not 1 reply as people can see through your links to DDN wannabees and the guardian.......

Now on ya way out take Geeki with ya.......
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As i have said before , you openly admitted that you talk sh** .

There is zero point debating anything with you , ,

You prove the point on a daily basis !

All your buddies have fu**ed off , they knew when to chuck the towel in !
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   Old Thread  #1759 17 Jan 2021 at 12.51pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Multiple runs again.......

Spanky, these sources you keep putting links to......are they fact checked or just someone looking for air time????

To early for drinking Geeki but not to early for fishing.........as you two proved........

Also I wouldnít know how Cons voters think.......
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   Old Thread  #1758 17 Jan 2021 at 12.48pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Billy bull**it in full flow , quick , someone put the cork back in !
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   Old Thread  #1757 17 Jan 2021 at 12.38pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Wayneís had a beer I think. State of him
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   Old Thread  #1756 17 Jan 2021 at 12.37pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Pretty sure Tory voters spend more time wondering about if Labour were in power than Labour voters do tbh
Then again you go about wondering if thereís a big reset and vaccinations have microchips so your a cut below the rest with all the hypothetical stuff
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Lots of accusations and speculation.......

Fishing is a funny one, all these fisherman running round like headless chickens saying I canít sell it because of Brexit........fill the ****ing export forms in you plonkers........hardly rocket science!

MH didnít forget beds, there not needed........we keep getting told for the last 4 weeks the NHS is at breaking point yet itís not.......staff levels are poor because of Self isolating doctors, nurses And half are still dancing to ďblinded by the lightsĒ and making tik tok videos.......

Leave Priti alone.......we could be talking about that **** Diane Abbott........dirty racist **** ****.......
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You muppets appear to not paying attention recently , especially these last few days and this is why

1 Pritti Patel under fire regarding an error which has damaged the files of around 400 000 police files , some are live investigations

2 Victoria Prentis , unbelievable , 1000's of fishermen are unable to fish which is threatening their livelihoods because their was no forewarning as Victoria was to busy to read the brexit deal as she was organizing a nativity

3 Matted Wan*sock forgot to renew a contract to hire 8000 beds from the private sector just as we are reaching the covid peak !

And i have not even mentioned corruption yet !!!

Give your fu**ing heads a shake , time to wake up !
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Corbyn is the UK version of Trump then........shame we canít vote for him no more........
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This is the problem in this country's political system , you are barking up the wrong tree whilst ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

They are having your pants down , exactly as this guy says !!



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Your always better tackling a problem at the route source , why do we have these Jihadi terrorists , as proven by enquiries and anyone with any common sense , the "blow back " from our middle east interventionist policies , it's undeniable , one politician warned us of this ,Corbyn , the thorn in their side , but the neocons wanted their oil and gas fields , and Israel wanted their Shiite enemy's degrading or even better completely wiping out !
Your anger should be directed at them , Blair , Cameron , Theresa May ,

Again , give your head a shake !

I would not grant their request for martyrdom , think about it !

Again , Why does no one mention Camerons policy of allowing known Jihadi threats to come and go whilst fighting Qaddafi, being trained over there by ISIS ! so , MI5 , MI6 warned him of the possibility of an event like the Manchester arena bombing ,and it became reality , and you lot are banging on about Dianne Abbot , you plonkers !

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   Old Thread  #1749 17 Jan 2021 at 10.20am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thatís what you labour voters do.......your comments show that........
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   Old Thread  #1748 17 Jan 2021 at 9.46am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Love you so many of you live in a land of hypothetical situations instead of the real world

Massive sign of deflection to say ďyeah but in a world that doesnít exist it would be worse, but no one actually knows if it would be but I reckon it would so this absolute crap we have now is betterĒ
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   Old Thread  #1747 17 Jan 2021 at 7.47am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Noj - Your such a fool, if labour were in government the UK would be such a lovely place to live........you know like the northwest where local labour councils wouldnít address mass grooming of children etc for fear of losing votes from that community .......

Can you imagine what DA Would then be doing, **** all no doubt saying these Young girls deserved it......especially As they are white.......racist ****......
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   Old Thread  #1746 17 Jan 2021 at 7.22am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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So Lee Rigbyís killers get a life of warm beds and free meals because weíre a soft touch?

With you all the way on that one. We should reintroduce the death penalty for terrorists

Like you said Noj, pass me the hammer
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   Old Thread  #1745 16 Jan 2021 at 11.54pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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If you can prove with certainty. Such as video footage as with Lee Rigby then why not have it. But it would need to be stipulated that you canít just dish it out to everyone.

If youíre happy to let innocent people die then it says a lot about you as a person. Especially as it would be you doing the killing. Once they were found not guilty post death would that mean youíd be up for being killed too? Seeing as youíd have murdered innocent people?
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And there is the admission of a fool
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   Old Thread  #1743 16 Jan 2021 at 11.05pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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So Lee Rigbyís killers get a life of warm beds and free meals because weíre a soft touch?
No Iíd happily risk the odd mishap thanks
In fact I can think of at least a dozen people who havenít broken any laws to speak of that Iíd kill just to get my eye in
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   Old Thread  #1742 16 Jan 2021 at 11.03pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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So you would turn down the chance to rid the world of terrorists, murderers and child abusers because of political allegiances?
You open your eyes, itís all pantomime.. The rich stay rich and the poor have **** all, red or blue cabinets wonít change that and weíll all still have to go to work if we want nice things, you know like food and shelter.
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   Old Thread  #1741 16 Jan 2021 at 10.59pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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If youíre cool with potentially murdering an innocent person thatís been wrongly convicted then you should probably be on some form of watch list.
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Beyond foolish to trust this lot with a death penalty , please don't try to say that our government is independent from our judiciary ,
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Government, no
Court system, yes
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   Old Thread  #1738 16 Jan 2021 at 10.43pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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noj lad , have you not been paying attention as to who governs us , maybe , if we had a government in power that we could trust with a death penalty , then maybe , you've had a few haven't you , fair enough , so have i , come on think about it
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   Old Thread  #1737 16 Jan 2021 at 10.33pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Wake up to what? I think theyíre both numpties..
I do however agree with PP and would reinstate the death penalty in a heartbeat. In fact Iíd be the one to do it if I could, wouldnít get cracked hands in the colder months anymore.
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Another numpty !
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But also , bent and sacked for treachery by Cameron , Wake up to it noj , suppose we won't be seeing you for a bit now !
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   Old Thread  #1733 16 Jan 2021 at 6.34pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Priti stupid Patel
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I will give you the benefit of the doubt , as surely this is what you meant ,

https://twitter.com/politicsjoe_uk/status/1314517044973494272?lang=en/" target="_blank">link.





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   Old Thread  #1731 16 Jan 2021 at 6.07pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I can picture the daily covid press briefings.
There have been 14 deaths, no 14000076198, no 46... oh, bugger, sorry thatís 936

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When all you have got left "get Dianne Abbot " , you know you have lost lad, it's all over, give your head a shake noJ
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God loves a trier noJ ,

Are you saying that anyone in Boris's front bench are doing a good job or even trying

ffs
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My 4 year old could have made less of a **** up of the country.

Probably released dinosaurs or something
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i'm 100% sure that Corbyn would of done a better job (sic)

Diane Abbott..... at least she tried.






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   Old Thread  #1726 16 Jan 2021 at 4.58pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thereís plenty to go at Mal for the right person if we ever get one. We live in hope

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yep , not looking good .

Thank God we have shut our borders down , iv'e heard that there is a nasty virus ravaging the world , thanks for the foresight of our great leader , we would be fu**ed without him !
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   Old Thread  #1724 16 Jan 2021 at 4.29pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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ah yeah I see

luckily I think the demise of Trump might have put paid to that particular cash cow - but I wouldn't put it past them to still try - bunch of s....

and i agree - the pot is empty. but it's much emptier for some whilst other still seem to be able to take from it. it's about priorities, and as always it's those with the greater need who don't have the power / voice to initiate the change. God only knows how we will emerge from this mess - but you can guarantee the 'haves' will still end up with more than the 'have nots'

we need a huge change in mindset. but it would involve people putting others first and that's in very short supply

'need before greed' - that's my election manifesto. Vote Mal
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The tory's know that for everything that is privatized = less chance of Labour getting back in power
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And less deaths = economic hit , had to get down to my local market before it closed , tiger prawns @ 1.5 kg for £10 , fried with Chorizo sausage ,followed by crispy duck pancakes , Large duck for £5 , hmmm ,couple of beers , nice bottle of plonk then whiskey hmmm
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   Old Thread  #1721 16 Jan 2021 at 4.20pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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What I am saying is, thatís what they will be looking at next the useless ****s
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   Old Thread  #1720 16 Jan 2021 at 4.19pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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We really don't (spend enough on social care)

I donít know the exact debt but G mentioned 3 trillion!!!

Serious cuts over the last 10 years, virtually nothing in the pot Mal, there will be more cuts across the board no options, thatís as well as tax increases and god knows what else they can sell off

I would like to know what the interest on that is a day
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   Old Thread  #1719 16 Jan 2021 at 4.11pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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you really want to ditch the NHS? are you doing a sarcasm there?
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By the time covid is over i reckon we will have a national debt of over £ 3 trillion which is over 4 x the 2008 debt level

So much for austerity

Itís a total and utter mess and we expect a bunch of muppets to sort it out. Pray for the day when a proper leader comes along and says, STOP, this does not work

Wonder what we can ditch first under these buffoons, NHS has got to go
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   Old Thread  #1717 16 Jan 2021 at 3.36pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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And yes , i'm 100% sure that Corbyn would of done a better job and we would have less death's and less death's !

we will never know.......I reckon the Lib dems would have done even better than all of them......

**** themselves and did everything they could to stop it happening.

He would have soon realised Corp power is harder to unravel and tax then simply stating it!!
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I'm finding it hard to understand the logic behind .

£700 billion in 2008 = massive problem and 12 years of austerity

£3 trillion in 2021 = nothing to worry about
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   Old Thread  #1715 16 Jan 2021 at 2.36pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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very good point - we could start with the likes of Amazon / Starbucks etc. - the huge mutinationals who have been taking the P for ages

then all those 'non domicile' business owners and millionaires ...

relying on tax increases from the working masses to pay back the debt is ridiculous. If everyone on the average wage gave 50% of their earnings it would still take decades...
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   Old Thread  #1714 16 Jan 2021 at 2.26pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Did you know £120 billion is not collected in taxes from the rich annually?
Why on earth should the normal working man having a tax increase imposed upon them whilst HMRC fail to do their job and collect the correct tax from the wealthy?

But then, I suppose theyíll never be instructed to by a Tory government, and when JC said heíd go collect it, look what happened **** themselves and did everything they could to stop it happening.

End of the day, it makes more sense to go collect the £120 billion than it does to make people that work hard and pay their taxes like good citizens pay more to cover the debts?
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   Old Thread  #1713 16 Jan 2021 at 2.23pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No scozza. We really don't (spend enough on social care)

It's just a few months back that boris gave 1.2 billion to keep transport for London going til the end of the year. That's one single business in one single city.

Imagine a yearly investment of that amount for social care. Or to tackle food poverty. Just imagine. ...
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It's very worrying watching the absolute incompetence and corruption on a daily basis , these people are making a mess as they shape our country and create trade treaties around the world ,how much are they feathering their nests as they do this , Dianne Abbot was famous for making a mess and attacked daily for it by our "not fit for purpose " press , yet nearly all of Boris's front bench are no better , in fact the majority are worse , at least she tried and she was honest !

If it was a football club , Boris would be out by now , we would be bottom of the league !

And yes , i'm 100% sure that Corbyn would of done a better job and we would have less death's and less death's !


Edit , the most important document post wwII was given a few hours to be scrutinized before being passed in parliament or else we wouldn't of had a deal , a deal which is claimed to be worse than Theresa May's , Boris has admitted not reading it , any of it ! the whole thing was blown out of all proportion and used as a tool to win the last election , they never gave a flying fu** about Brexit , they just whipped up the deluded nationalistic ideology of the masses , works every time !

Pants down !
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£700 billion triggered 12 years of austerity after the financial crash , funny how they have stopped blaming labour for it , who were about as much to blame as the Tory party are for covid .

By the time covid is over i reckon we will have a national debt of over £ 3 trillion which is over 4 x the 2008 debt level , yet they have tried to say it's nothing to worry about , austerity has proven to be a failure Johnson admitted this prior to the last election , probably denies it now , the last time we had a debt anywhere near this was after the second world war luckily the economics of the tory's under Churchill were dropped and an Atlee government rescued us, an unbelievable achievement , full employment , millions of houses built and massive improvements to our infrastructure not to mention the creation of the NHS , National schemes , no bent donors to hoover up dodgy contracts at our expense , and now with Starmer sucking up to large corporations we are in a bad place , Starmer is pro Austerity , as he recently admitted , the death knell for an economy , as proven !
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I agree. And if we are out of Europe and companies want to deal with us. Well, thatís the price you have to pay to trade in the U.K

So, whilst Iím snowed in and board I googled: Major government spending cuts over the last 10 years

If people are genuinely interested take 15 minutes out and have a read, few links, quite interesting really.

Government cuts have been on a downward trend and councils get most of their funding from council tax, wonder what we did before that!

Basic info here Council spend

Education, adult social care and then childrenís social care are the biggest areas of spend

If you read more detail though, as the demand for these services increases coupled with the limited funding that prevents provision of the service required expect some tax increases, council and personal as we move towards 2025 or in effect we are bust

Least we will have more to complain about when we are worse off!

A question, out of interest, do we spend enough on social care?

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Income tax? You do realise that only applies to the working class paye peasants now a days.
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Of course it is part time, they did only get an 11% pay rise you know so most need the second, third corporate salary, how else will they afford the third house and lavish lifestyle with more people looking at their expenses claims.
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Well they could tax everyone properly and it would help massively wouldnít it? But they donít.
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I agree with what you are saying. To the point, you could say all politicians are corrupt and will be defending their own subconscious bias, same as on here, same as everybody, itís life

As I mentioned before, in an extremely basic summary thereís is a cash pot that has to be divided to run this country. Where this funding gets apportioned is ultimately in the hands of the current government

There has to be a limit on charity, same as any business, if the books donít balance out they will go bust. Cut costs in one area, it effects another and so on. The trouble with strategy is that you do not realise how good or bad it is until you are a few years down the road, and then, oh ****, we got it wrong

Now if you were to apportion the finances out, in simple terms, think of a pie charts, you have to apportion the percentages and benefits and funding will get £X

If this balance swings it will have a direct effect on the other category's, or you may have a float or you could get a loan, that has to be paid back, think Covid.

The books have to balance out with an aim of no debt but profit, if we break even, thatís a result as a country I guess? What about if we continue to play the debt game, thatís not good business sense itís it. We could sell things off though, our critical assets to pay it off, encourage foreign investment and shoot ourselves in the foot but at least we have shifted some debt, think conservative!

But letís be fair,,all the partyís have a history of it. We need to be aiming to reduce the national debt, imagine if we were in credit, how much could we give to charityís then!!!

So in summary for me, there is so much for charityís and benefits and possibly a bit more but like everything else it needs some proper focus and attention to make sure that it gets used exactly what it for and not abused. If These are not managed they could spiral out of control, itís that simple

We are not an endless pot of cash ffs like some people seem to think, there has to be limitations and control otherwise we will be investing in nothing but benefits, itís that simple for me and our country or any country cannot sustain that, ever!

For every charity that gains there will be one that loses. And thatís why I say, all these money folk banging a drum about support, put you money behind it, respect if they do, If not, shut the **** up!

Unless they double our taxes so we can all give a bit more, how about that?

No pay rises and straight off your top line, I wonder how many people would be banging a drum then lol

A realist
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Yes , it's beginning to look like being a politician is the "part time " job for the majority of the Tory party !
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Love to be a fly on the wall in the meeting where someone has to explain to the cabinet what an 'Aldi' is....




As for the fishing farce - no surprise at all.

people are conveniently forgetting that the whole of last year - 12 MONTHS - was the 'transition period'. you know, that whole time when things should've been sorted out so there was none of the current mess after December 31st.

everything left to the last minute like lazy kids doing their homework on the bus.

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Who'd of thought it , have they been reading my post's

Marcus Rashford has teamed up with Aldi to launch a brand new campaign to help feed hungry kids across the UK.
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I had to read this one twice to check

Fishing minister Victoria Prentis admitting she did not read the brexit deal with regard to the fisheries deal when it was published and before it was passed as she was ,, wait for it ,,,, organising the school christmas nativity ! and we have witnessed the result , many pi**ed off fishermen doing nothing in transition deadlock unable to fish !

What do you have to do to get sacked in this government !
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JC would have been corrupted in a minute no doubt.......corporate power would have seen to that!
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Yep , after the 2017 election when he nearly won the lies and smears went into overdrive , you could sense the panic , well , some could , such a shame the majority lapped it up , would of been interesting to see where we would be now !
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   Old Thread  #1699 14 Jan 2021 at 2.25pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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To quote Nelson Mandela
ďOne of the mistakes that political analysts make, is to think that their enemies are our enemies
Extend that out to the super rich and media controllers I guess...and you get to where we are now with how the media contorts the truth and reality, anyone/anything can be a casualty of war for them. Whether itís a politician, starving children, actual laws or legal activities, etc. As long as it plays out the way the media controllers want it to.

As they say, Murdoch has never lost an election


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What i am saying is the influence of corporate power and money is now at an all time high ,at the worst time possible and to protect and grow their fortunes they will resort to anything and with this lot in power now , well , it does not bode well , especially when the person who will likely replace "the buffoon" is trying his hardest to suck up to these people !, as we saw with Corbyn , if you are a threat , you aren't winning an election !

It's the corruption of politics by these people is the problem , you can see the negative influence everywhere , as we are witnessing at the moment !

Following the evidence !
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Or too embarrassed to answer
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Is journalism, or should I say newspapers and media not just that, slinging mud and selling stories?

Enlightening to know peoples perception's on what they are really voting for and why

What makes them decide

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You noticed how no one answered my question in my previous post? Says a lot.

They Probably skip past most of your comments knowing you will argue all day long just to have the last word.........

there are meant to be laws regarding reporting and news feeds at the time of elections , well ,unless there is someone that threatens "the established order " and their corrupt grip on society , what happened in the last election was not reported on , except here

Spanky - Same kind of thing could be said about the reporting of Trump in America, Corbyn would have been corrupted and quickly......

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Scozza , with regards to having an election , thats all well and good , but when the people that form peoples opinion lie and are not held to account , what then ? there are meant to be laws regarding reporting and news feeds at the time of elections , well ,unless there is someone that threatens "the established order " and their corrupt grip on society , what happened in the last election was not reported on , except here ,

link.

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You noticed how no one answered my question in my previous post? Says a lot.
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benefit fraud does need to be tackled - in the same way as tax fraud (and more recently 'furlough fraud') and other cheating the system does. that builder who says 'cash is king' so he can be creative with his tax return is just as much a problem as those who falsely claim benefits. As are the big businesses and high earners who use tax avoidance loopholes

but the point here - which people are missing while they get on their comfortable high horse and rant about people having mobile phones and Netflix and tar all FSM families with their same prejudiced blinkered brush - is that those who are in need of the free school meals are THE CHILDREN. The kids aren't benefit cheats. And of the 1.4 million (and increasing) families who qualify (yes it is means tested) for this, it's a minority that might spend the money elsewhere.

this gets me riled because the people making the policy have no clue - again! and it creates yet another divisive discourse - making the poorest families yet another group to demonise.




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Doesnít this just mean that overall youíre frustrated that your tax money is not only going to people that abuse the benefit system, but it also goes to an ineffective system that allows them to abuse it without repercussion?
Can sit there all you like and moan about the abusers but no one seems to moan about the public servants that are meant to find, stop and prosecute them.
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   Old Thread  #1689 14 Jan 2021 at 10.05am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Same for me
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i understand both points of view, yes we should be helping those who need it and ensure we all have enough essentials in life, BUT if we were tougher and more vigilant on those that receive benefits and ensure it is only those who really need it receive them there would be more in the benefit pot to assist those who really need it. Thats what people get frustrated with the number of individuals taking the p*** and not the ones who really need it.
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   Old Thread  #1687 14 Jan 2021 at 8.40am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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bullocks

'if you don't like it go and live somewhere else' same old pish. how about 'i pay my taxes in THIS country, so I have a right - maybe even a responsibility - to challenge the piss poor way it is run'...?

and you've said before about how you're happy to help 'our' people - slippery slope that one. Are hungry British kids not 'your' people? or is it just another problem that you don't give a **** about because it doesn't affect you?

and you've also said that your passion for tackling homelessness is matched by your incredible commitment to the cause by 'paying your taxes' - something we all do because we are told to, not out of choosing to support it.

I do have some nice things - and I will do what I can to ensure that other people can have nice things too. although, to be honest - we are talking about feeding kids here. a hot meal isn't something that should be seen as a luxury.
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When UNICEF have identified that child poverty in Britain is such an issue that they are having to step in to feed them, like they do in third world countries. Can we call ourselves a first world country anymore??
It wonít be long before we are being sent aid from the wealthiest of countries.

Serious social reform is needed in this country, but then youíll always have the people that label the majority by the minority and look to deal with issues in that way. Whether itís poverty, unemployment, homelessness, education or whatever else.

Letís pose a question, would those that oppose giving families cash for FSM because they might spend it all in crack dens and brothels give a toss if those parents were earning it themselves by working and then spending it in those places?
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Same old Upstairs Downstairs way of looking at things as always.
We have to make sure ALL kids get what they need, even more so in turbulent times, then deal with the piss takers, bums and stiffs. Your view is quite common in this country unfortunately. Make rules for the lowest denominator and apply to all. You see it with fishing clubs, day ticket waters all walks of life. Make the majority abide by the rules made for the dickheads.
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Thatís how it was back then. Things have changed. Itís called history, same as where we are now, in another 50 years, change, change, change...

You keep bleeting on about this country. Go and live in India or some other third world **** hole like that, **** all, absolutely ****ing nothing, no food, no healthcare, no water systems and no ****ing electric for lighting etc. Christ, donít even mention a TV, radio or ****ing hair dryer

I bet you have all the nice things, Christ, you even have fishing tackle for pleasure, hows that for a luxury?

We are light years ahead of other countries, you should be thankful that your not sat in a **** pit wondering where your next bowl of rice is coming from and respect that you live in the UK

Politics is the flip side of the coin, full of ****ing idiots, a bit like on here. Decisions have to be made, whether they are right or wrong is down to the public to decide during an election.

I am ALL for supporting our people, itís what we do, itís in our heritage but we have to be careful and ensure the RIGHT people get what they need not just every drug addict, piss head and **** wit otherwise it becomes a waste of valuable resource that is used for corrupt purposes

Nothing personal Mal,,just my views
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yeah - god forbid that people with **** all might want a bit of comfort now and then eh?

this is where we live - the rich get richer and the poor can **** off if they don't like it...





where's robin hood when we need him?



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I assume the foodbox idea was because people thought the poor are not capable of making good choices at the supermarket. Maybe they'd squander the vouchers on one jar of caviar and five boxes of After Eights.

The way the poor are viewed and treated is shocking.

The number of rough sleepers in my home town is shocking, especially when you only visit every six months or so, yet it's 'a lifestyle choice' according to every mean spirited git I've ever mentioned it to.
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not great


not even close


Great Britain? a self awarded title that was based on exploitation and colonial bullying.

United Kingdom? not been united for a long time


the FSM issue just highlights the huge divide between the wealthy and the deprived in this country. It's usually managed within the school system so it gets to those who need it - i.e. the children.
now it's having to be managed more by politicians it falls apart - the voucher scheme had been set up and was working effectively in so many cases. then - for god knows what reason - it was ditched for the farce of what we've seen this week.

food banks have never seen the demand they currently have. food poverty is a hidden national crisis.

and we're still subsidising MP's lunches...
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Think you answered that yourself

Compared to some countries we are fortunate and in a good position

Regardless of all the moaning ****s you here on here
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""we should be able do it in our country and thatís what makes us great.""
And if we aren't what does that make us?
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Thatís my point mate. No problem at all for me supporting people if itís for the right reasons, we should be able do it in our country and thatís what makes us great. Itís making sure that those who need it really do get the full benefit for the right reasons and thatís the difference for me
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You forgot the latest mobile and broadband for their sky, Netflix etc.
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Iím with that, give them food vouchers' not cash, maybe even some type of card system? For every good there is bad and cash is not the right solution. There are loads of **** parents out there who would just piss it up the wall, smoke it or just top up their entertainment pot

Working menís clubs, pardon the pun are rammed out near me (usually) and they ainít working men!

My Mrs deals with it first hand, pissed up parents, massive TV on the wall, kids sleeping on the floors, no beds, on the carpet or just a mattress, heart breaking to hear, never mind see! The parents are ****ing idiots, you will be surprised what goes off behind closed doors!

Like someone also mentioned, not healthy food either, ****ing takeaways every night
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You may have come across many that squander and you believe it doesn't help them out. The reality is 1.4 MILLION kids are eligible for free school meals in England alone. Dickensian statistics, soup kitchen Britain. There's a damn site more cash been squandered on people that can afford it, that'll carry on being handed it. This is an emergency situation brought on by a pandemic gathering pace. Cash or vouchers just get it out there ASAP have the reckoning later.
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Since the first lockdown I have seen loads of these arrogant self serving morons out in their supercars and their middle aged wives all made up looking down their nose's from their ranger overs but you cannot expect them to stay in their huge country house and exercise in their grounds or pool, most I believe can't cook or make a coffee as they always seem to have a Starbucks or Costa coffee and deli sandwich with them.
EAT THE RICH.
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Last time i looked the cabinet was extremely wealthy. Nearly all are very wealthy. Multiple houses, businesses, directorships. Private school educated with wealthy families.

Their idea of a difficult decision is which private school to send their kid to. Not how to feed them.
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agreed - Rashford gets it because he lived it. I doubt many of the cabinet have ever had to choose between themselves or their children having a meal...

I'm pretty sure the vouchers have certain items that are restricted - alcohol / cigarettes etc. ? sure i have read that somewhere...
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If you have a voucher , why couldn't you have a scheme , like click and collect where you can only buy certain food items from a list that would only be used to feed a kid , and you could maybe twist the arms of a few supermarkets to throw a few freebies in also , get Rashford on the job , they could even do deliveries !

It's not hard to work a system out that's better than this one !
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I've come across many problem families who would squander the money. Giving them money does not help them.
Lots of shops do vouchers, I get vouchers for being on a covid testing scheme and they look normal to me but Noj makes a good point.
I think we all agree the food parcels are **** so something needs to change.
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Washington DC is going in to full on lockdown with a big armed security presence by the looks of it. Due to threats from the terrorists within the republicans spreading a ďshoot to kill democratsĒ plot and sharing bomb making instructions on telegraph and plantr, amongst other things.

Also one of the terrorists is being sought for killing a police officer with a fire extinguisher during the attack which left him dead and saw a mob kicking his dead body, I wonder how people that supported blue lives matter so adamantly could do such a thing?

Awful state of affairs over there.
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Cash? Giving poor people cash? Perish the thought, they'd go to the shops, come over all giddy and buy something totally unsuitable, like a croquet mallet .. when they don't even have a decent lawn!

Are these vouchers nice and big, like those charity cheques, with I AM POOR written in massive letters on them? Might encourage them to get a proper job in the city that pays nicely.

Just give people who need it the money, cut out all the links in the chain taking their cut.
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Problem is those vouchers can be exchanged for Bernard Matthews reformed junk and chips.
Itís shocking when there are murderers, rapists, terrorists and nonces in jail eating better than children.
Shouldíve consulted the Sikh community, they know how to feed huge numbers with healthy meals on a shoe string. Saying that if you gave a bag of lentils, brown rice and seasonally abundant veg to a lot of parents they wouldnít know where to start.
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I think itís mental that the company is being paid £30 and spending at max £10 and keeping taxpayer money as profit.
Or at least that is exactly how it seems to be working out...and until they prove otherwise it looks like our hard earned is going in someoneís pocket and not a childís mouth like itís meant to.
Whichever way you look at it itís appalling, from the governments lack of procurement to the companyís thinking that theyíll get away with providing next to nothing for £30.
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most use the voucher scheme when parcels can't be put together.

what I've seen today is just disgraceful. especially given that the lowest income families in the uk have seen the biggest increase in their average spending since the covid measures kicked in (no prizes for guessing which group have seen the biggest reduction in their monthly spending....)

the companies responsible (not just Chartwell) should be stripped of existing contracts

but Boris won't care - don't forget that when the first (oh yes there's been more than one) FSM debacle was happening last Summer, he was sanctioning nearly a Million quid to paint a ****ing jumbo jet for his personal use...





and Gavin Williamson can still **** off
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Hardly significant £10k 12 years ago LINK

Never the less those food parcels are a scandal. Chartwell-Compass are the company that mainly supply school meals in the UK and it looks likes they've given out all the old **** leftovers they've been stuck with.
I don't agree with giving out cash though, I reckon it should be done using supermarket vouchers.
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Well they did give the contract to a significant Tory donor without any procurement process.
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Take a bow Sir Marcus Rashford MBE for taking it to the greed brigade again. Ripping off the tax payer with kids food is despicable, well done.
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He does go on a bit Bob, will leave him to rant to himself.......no ones listening anyway.....
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Keep it coming tinny.
You should know by now your digs donít get too me. Not sure why you still insist on trying
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Last word was all yours then......
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Does that mean I got the last word
No one gets the last word with him. Just ask yourself, me, Scozza, Ocelot, Henry and Dean for starters. I think I've even caught him doing it to himself.
Look back and you'll see there's plenty of others but they can't be arsed. Shame as we could do with some new views.
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Well why would you have a need to block me because you canít see my posts unless you actively look for them. Which just means you were worried youíd spend too much time stalking me doesnít it.
If you donít know how Facebook works then only your friends posts show up in your feed. As Iím not one of them youíd never see anything I post. Not unless you went looking for it.
No need to block me unless you canít trust yourself.
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Why the hell would I send you a friend request......you rant on there like someone on spice......stalker, not all just wanted to see if you are the same person on FB as you are on here and I can confirm you are a know it all on there too.......

Darjeeling would be lovely and if you could point me in the direction of someone friendly that would be very much appreciated......thanks for caring......

You want sugar with that mal?
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on behalf of snowflakes everywhere I'm offended - Wayne's a nutter / stalker / wind up merchant - he's not one of us.










i can't believe you'd say that. it's just so hurtful.





i need some tea. would anyone like some?
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   Old Thread  #1652 11 Jan 2021 at 8.23pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You blocked me but I was never going to accept a friend request from you so unless you spent your time visiting my profile youíd never see it??

Okay then snowflake. If you think that makes sense
Looks like someone is getting very emotional. You sure you donít need a cup of green tea and a chat with someone friendly. Iím sure you can drop a message to one of your Qanon buddies to bring you back down to earth
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   Old Thread  #1651 11 Jan 2021 at 8.13pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Does that mean I got the last word......

Stalked.......I thought your rants and sharing were trying to reach a broader audience......I had a look at your ramblings then blocked you.......

Will keep discussion in here and not the bait section as well.......
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   Old Thread  #1650 11 Jan 2021 at 7.59pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Ooooo someoneís triggered. You okay there snowflake
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   Old Thread  #1649 11 Jan 2021 at 7.45pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
You to / too / two are truly deluded, your posts on here and FB simply confirm it! Just wanted to make sure you werenít proper ill as you both come across a tad unstable......admit it spanky, Iím in there all day......

Discuss trump......**** off you canít even discuss uk politics without ramming it down peopleís throats over and over and always want the last word........you would be best to stick CNN on and thatís the whole truth in your mind so **** all to discuss really......
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   Old Thread  #1648 11 Jan 2021 at 7.23pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Defo sad ainít it, having to stalk someoneís Facebook because you have no life. Last person that did that from here to me was Dean from UCN. And you know what a racist creep he was...
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   Old Thread  #1647 11 Jan 2021 at 7.12pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You in my head , yes right , i was amazed at how desperate you must be to actually track us down on facebook for a bit of amo , what's up with you you fu**ing weirdo ! I'm in your head that much i feel guilty not paying rent lad, however empty spaces don't command much rent nowadays !
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The war party that "Biden the bung " has assembled leads me to believe that things are about to get back to normal and many countries can look forward too be shown good old American values and democracy , or what the rest of the world calls "an invasion "
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   Old Thread  #1645 11 Jan 2021 at 6.56pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The bbc mentioned this on the news a few days ago , how goods needing physically checking now by border police , not once did they mention that Boris said that their would be no checks on goods , or , no hard border ,

Pants down !
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   Old Thread  #1644 11 Jan 2021 at 6.52pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hasn't got a hook for a hand or a beard so he'll be fine.
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   Old Thread  #1643 11 Jan 2021 at 6.48pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
In other news, have Americans gone soft?
I remember a time when Americans travelled the globe for the best part of a decade causing havoc to eliminate someone that incited terrorism against their country. Now they are defending someone who incited terrorism against them.

Discuss
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   Old Thread  #1642 11 Jan 2021 at 6.45pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Not content with starting the break up of the UK by facilitating a border down the Irish sea. Mr Fromage wants to accelerate that break up with a new party, Reform UK standing candidates against the SNP on a Unionist ticket
Will be rubbing her hands together Sturgeon at a further split in the Unionist vote.
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This is what i am predicting will happen , the signs have become more obvious and blatant for over a year now , well to some ! have your little tantrums like you did in April when i was suggesting that they were going to fu** up their response to covid because they were incompetent and corrupt , i don't reckon you would see a bus coming , Mr eggy face !
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   Old Thread  #1640 11 Jan 2021 at 1.28pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #1639 11 Jan 2021 at 1.08pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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And a few others
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   Old Thread  #1638 11 Jan 2021 at 12.33pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Plenty of empty space in there Wayne, maybe you should pay him a visit

Think im always in his head.........
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   Old Thread  #1637 11 Jan 2021 at 11.08am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'm hoping that the various campaigns linked to the cladding issue get some publicity from this - it's shocking the way people are being treated - by government and by businesses that have cut corners with people's safety
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   Old Thread  #1636 11 Jan 2021 at 8.27am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You may have made a point Mal but Spanker hasn't, all he's done is put THIS on again.
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   Old Thread  #1635 11 Jan 2021 at 7.21am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Level of corruption and greed within this government is ridiculous. We are all suffering. Our taxes are paying for plenty of contracts which never were fulfilled and the government seemingly paid upfront instead of on delivery. Although there is a legal challenge going forward on this so maybe itíll all be exposed.
Media control and governmental hushing of issues is already destructive and itís just getting worse. Look at how they refused to let journalists question them properly, the going got tough so they refused to talk to them

I wonder if the pandemic hadnít happened if Boris would be lining up for retirement already. Get brexit done and then run away from the consequences of that. Like he did with the leave campaign.
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   Old Thread  #1634 10 Jan 2021 at 11.36pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Spanker has a point here....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55611467

they should be more concerned with putting adequate funding into this than including gagging orders....
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Corrupt? Always thought you had to be very clever to be a public figure and corrupt ti get away with it but Jimmy Saville disproved that as even when Johnny rotten exposed him the powers to be at the BBC and in government protected him and oh yeah who was it again that refused to prosecute on the grounds of what he said was insufficient evidence.
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Our country is about to be reshaped by the most corrupt government this country has ever seen , you should be concerned !


Edit , or at least on a par with James 1st
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The next decade is going to get very very ugly ,the level of "news filtering " , persecution of independent journalists and whistle blowers is going to explode , how far to the right will they try to take us to stay in power , sound familiar ?
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   Old Thread  #1630 10 Jan 2021 at 9.49pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Plenty of empty space in there Wayne, maybe you should pay him a visit
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   Old Thread  #1629 10 Jan 2021 at 9.31pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Fake news Iím afraid......
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I dont care so long as I have fun
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   Old Thread  #1627 10 Jan 2021 at 9.11pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Maybe Wayne has infiltrated his brain 🤷🏻‍♂️
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   Old Thread  #1626 10 Jan 2021 at 9.10pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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And if we miss it Iím sure you will make us aware
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   Old Thread  #1625 10 Jan 2021 at 9.09pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Well that's cleared it up then

Is this one of your I know more than you moments
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Stay alert , it will be apparent !
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Ask your better half but she may fake it.
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   Old Thread  #1622 10 Jan 2021 at 8.47pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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So the news about fake news could be fake which would also make that fake news.Im confused now,so is it news or fake news
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   Old Thread  #1621 10 Jan 2021 at 8.27pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You sure, it could be fake news?
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The war on fake news is gathering pace now , although i fear "fake news " is not their primary target , just a decoy !
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   Old Thread  #1619 9 Jan 2021 at 7.49pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Donít you try lecturing us whilst the kids are off



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   Old Thread  #1618 9 Jan 2021 at 6.05pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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and scozza - **** off ***

btw - check out general carp section for a little gift from me....
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Good un that

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   Old Thread  #1616 9 Jan 2021 at 3.43pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Trump gets stronger
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   Old Thread  #1615 9 Jan 2021 at 2.38pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I got sent a news headline today.
IRAQ TO SEND PEACEKEEPING FORCE TO THE US!
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I see Trump is banned from Twitter now, unbelievable

Gonna set up his own social media platform he says
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   Old Thread  #1613 9 Jan 2021 at 2.18pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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**** me, be glad when the kids are back at school
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   Old Thread  #1612 8 Jan 2021 at 9.08am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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noj makes a really good point (especially when agreeing that Gavin can **** off)

it's hard to see BT doing it for purely altruistic reasons given the way the whole pandemic has been exploited by certain parties (businesses, individuals, politicians, celebrities, the Angling trust.... ) Reading the story it does seem that Gavin has made another head in the sand decision that screws over disadvantaged students but that would come as no surprise to me given his track record.

the whole 'give them a laptop' approach reminds me of the 'Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy' when the aliens say that the plans to destroy earth have been there for us to read on a distant planet for ages...

Maybe Gavin came from a house with a suitable quiet space to work in. maybe he had his own bedroom. maybe he wasn't fighting for use of a single laptop with 4 other siblings. There are so many factors that government just seem to be ignorant of.

It sounds churlish to complain about it, but it's another poorly executed plan that doesn't address the gaps in learning opportunity for the most deprived kids in the country.

If anything, it emphasises the gap that has been created by successive government policy and that schools have consistently tried to reduce. One of the key elements of any Ofsted inspection is 'closing the gap' between PP (pupil premium i.e. disadvantaged) students and non PP. Schools spend a lot of time trying to fix a deeply rooted social inequality.

who knows why he said no? maybe his shares are in Virgin broadband instead...

the laptop provision is a good thing in theory - but in practice, for many families, it's like putting a plaster on a cut when they really need a cast for their broken leg.

Worst Education minister ever - and bear in mind that includes Gove... (who can also **** off)

edit - tinhead - well played Mrs Tinhead
although it's not the weekly mass testing that Gavin and Boris promised on our behalf. We've about 1500 kids - how many days is it going to take to test them each week and who's teaching / TA supporting the classes while staff are doing it...? Yeah, I know, I'm a drama queen...
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if only there was a nationwide free broadband and wifi.... need Jezza dont we
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   Old Thread  #1609 8 Jan 2021 at 7.15am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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They were offering vouchers for 6 or 12 months I think. So people who for whatever reason donít have the internet get connected and after that free period BT get 1000s stitched up in a contract.
Iím with Mal, **** Gavin.. but these Ďstoriesí really need to be approached with an open mind. The corporations are as crooked as the cabinet and BT knew they would come out smelling of roses regardless of the offer being taken up or not.
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   Old Thread  #1608 8 Jan 2021 at 6.56am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Mal what do you make of your Bezzy mate Gav turning down BTs offer to supply cheap broadband for children that donít have it so they can learn online easily?
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Keyworker kids tested negative today Mal. Good thing is they don't make a fuss about it, they just get on and do it. they aren't drama queens
I can't see why more kids can't get tested, go back and get the school opened.
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ah...

I do miss those Friday nights out in Blackburn....


and scozza - it's a hair 'style' - no chance of it being cut for a very long time....



btw - my Gavin Williamson can **** off campaign is gathering more followers by the day. now includes members of his own party. pretty soon we'll be storming his house with full body armour and leaving annoyed post - its all over his desk / fridge / pets / nan....
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Very good
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I'm truly sorry for playing my part in this unsavoury incident !

A recycled classic
link.

Tinhead is the one running off in the distance , Wayne is the one beating a cow up in a nearby field because he misheard Tinhead tell him i'll whack this one you whack the other !

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Brilliant

Arguing is an intellectual process, you could have fooled me
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Iím up for the tit

I donít do tat, l leave that for people like Mal clinging onto his 1980s haircut
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It could be run like the Monty Python Argument sketch?
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We could start a dedicated Tit for Tat thread.

...but it might only get visits from disappointed cockneys looking for berets and trilbies.
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Left me standing, like a naughty schoolboy, Hello-hooray, there's a price to pay.......

Bailing people out Spanky?
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Poor bloke must have serious emotional issues. We shouldnít laugh at him.
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Yep , lights the fuse then he fu**s off home for his tea , has been mentioned before !
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When heís not on here he walks round blowing a party blower ALL day, OCD, likes to tickle peoples ears with it
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Tit for tat thread you big girls blouse !
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I think everyone clearly understands you like to say your piece then run away and stick your fingers in your ears because you canít cope with anyone replying back to what youíve said
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Tinhead and his minime

Foreign intervention , taking Iranian general Qassem Suleimani out with a drone was criminal , under orders from Israel , the guy was a legend in iran loved more than their leader and was solely responsible for wiping isis out of the majority of the middle east , gotta ask yourself why America did it , all those in the know will know that isis are our useful idiots again , ask Prety Patel ,she visited a Israeli controled hospital in the Syrian occupied golan heights treating them around the same time that she was sacked by Cameron for giving tax payers money to the Israeli defence force off record !


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Hopefully now people will understand when I say I'm not getting into a tit for tat you can see the reason why



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You wonít find a Mr normal entertaining this type of thread, better things to do
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That was before you insulted me little buddy.
Or did you stupidly think youíd do your normal insult and duck for cover routine?
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For goodness sake, it's no surprise other members don't contribute to these threads.

I dare say Mr Normal is thoroughly sick of this petty tit-for-tattery tactic.
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but i wont engage in your pathetic tit for tat tinhead.

But you are
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Nope
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Plus, one manís terrorist is anotherís hero.
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tiat in my previous post= this is a test. And you keep on failing.
Maybe this time?
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Youíre right there are nuances in it. But again, my point was referring to the white supremacist terrorists in America, who were, believe it or not, all white and all right wing.
Terrorism can be categorised in many different ways. Politics, religion,, nationality, colour, etc. All valid metrics depending on what youíre reporting on.
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People that deserve it
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Iím not sure terrorism can be categorised by colour. People refer to Islamist terrorists, not brown ones.
For arguments sake if over 5.5% of those white terror suspects are radical Muslim converts then Islamist terror (without a percentage of those Ďblack and othersí) will dwarf all other causes and no doubt read as the biggest threat to the nation in an opposing paper or report.

It amazes me the mob in Washington didnít all get killed, shame
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Have you ever let anyone have the last word?
tiat
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Yeah, thatís the sole reason he got voted in by the majority, all those decent folk amongst them

People want change, I can see why people voted for him, make America great again, jobs, import taxes for starters, there were good amongst bad. He had an opportunity and did not deliver

I wish we had someone with bollox but more level headed i would vote for them today!

What are we going to have, another ****ing muppet after another walking the same old road
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Either way he is still a billionaire. A sad, pathetic little billionaire that needs the approval of others around them constantly and sees life as a popularity contest.
Iíve said it over and over. He cheats at golf so he has no self respect and no one should respect him.
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Sad demise?

You make it sound like he was a decent bloke who's gone downhill. This isn't the case. He got elected by telling racists it's ok to be racist, banging on about building walls and muslim bans, and threw a few gallons of petrol on the sad little fire that was the world of conspiracy theorists with the cobblers about Obama's birth certificate.

He was a self-obsessed buffoon when he won, and he's now a self-obsessed buffoon of a loser.
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So facts are now colouring to suit a bias? Okay then little buddy.

Tbh Iíd say telling someone that they have a constant need to seek approval is an insult, especially when itís very far from the truth.
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I haven't insulted you, not in my last post anyway, just said you colour to suit your bias. That's not an insult that's my opinion.

@Scozza. That's a good appraisal. The Americans got fed up with the same old politicians, tried someone new but his personality was just too OTT so they've ended up with another same old politician but this one is very old and doesn't like us very much
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I canít understand why people are shocked if Iím honest, he has just brought to the top what was already there, a massive divide, the USA is a complete mess, too big too soon

Whilst I must admit some of his polices made total sense to me, on reflection the flip side of the coin is the controversy. He had an opportunity to make positive change and blew it like a complete amateur. One word, dictator, and dictators have one thing in common, they get overthrown

Sad demise really
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Funnily enough Iím not looking for anyoneís approval or to agree with me. I also agree with you. Itís their problem and itís sad for them.
Me stating it is a terror attack or an attempted one, at least, is just a fact and maybe a knock on the head of those that are playing it down as if it was nothing.

You could have had the last word if your little insulting assumptions werenít so far off base. Youíre a lover of insulting then running away hoping people donít defend themselves
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but i wont engage in your pathetic tit for tat tinhead
Good that will allow me to have the last word for a change.

The reason we will hardly agree on anything is our mindsets.
I see Trump as a bad loser and in desperation making a last attempt before he goes. In a few weeks time he'll be gone, for that reason I see it as America's problem and for them to deal with. When i talk to others they have a similar opinion, it shouldn't be happening but it is.
You on the other hand due to your hatred of Trump like to colour it to satisfy your own bias. That's up to you but don't expect a vast amount of forum members to suddenly appear on these threads and agree with you.

Thank you, I'm done
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Unexploded IEDs? Maybe. There certainly weren't any uneaten hotdogs - did you see the state of them?

Did the three dead just keel over after heaving their massive fascist arses up all those steps?
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Because the people that stormed the Capitol were right wing white supremacists? the proud boys as they call themselves.
Just an observation about the attempted terror attack in the US. not that it will ever be reported as such due to western interpretations of a terrorist.
If you fancy reading solely about the UK a document called Terrorism in Great Britain: the statistics was published in March 2020 by Allen & Kirk-Wade. A briefing paper for the house of commons. Google it and you shall find it.
A direct quote from the document (page 25)
"in 2018/19, of those arrested for terrorism-related offences: 41% were reported as white, 36% of Asian appearance, 12% black and 10% other"

but i wont engage in your pathetic tit for tat tinhead. play that with yourself
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Good spot
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You mean team Biden
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Correct.
I'm interested in this data though, how it's been analysed and put together.
Actually thinking about I'm not interested at the moment just though it was strange that skin colour was mentioned.

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Did anyone attempt to detonate an IED.......was this on Sky news by any chance......
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i think most of the IRA were white...

just saying

I'll stop stirring now
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Why have you felt the need to talk about skin colour, just take it for what it is, Trump going out with a bang.
Now you've mentioned it I haven't seen the data you talk of , does it break it down country by country, what's the colour of skin data for terrorists in the UK?
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It's been said before tinhead - Trump doesn't like going to war....

He'd rather create division and civil unrest - and incite violence in his own country to try and hang on to his deluded grasp at power. I don't see him calling for the military to quell this rioting / damage / death.
what was it he said last night? - that they are special people and he loves them...

listening to his 'supporters' on the news shows the mindset there - foreshadowing the UK post brexit maybe? let's hope not eh?
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They found undetonated IEDs on the rioters. Or should that be terrorists? Attempting to blow up US government officials counts as terrorism right? We all know, and the data proves, that the majority of terrorist attacks and incidents globally are carried out by white people.
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True Bob, pulled troops out of areas all over the world......Iím sure Biden will get them involved in **** that donít concern them though!
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Yet under Trump the US has not had any wars or invaded anyone.
I'm not a Trump or Biden supporter by the way, Trump will be gone soon and the other one will be in.
I know what happens over there affects us but I 'm of the mind just let them get on with it at the moment, it's just Trumps last show of defiance in his last couple of weeks then we will see if Biden is any better.
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Yep , they have invaded numerous countries for less , propaganda gold dust for the likes of Russia and China who must be over the moon

Has he even fulfilled any of his promises to his deluded followers , hmmmmm , sounds familiar !
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If the United States saw what the United States is doing in the United States, the United States would invade the United States, to liberate the United States from the tyranny of the United States.
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Woooooahhhh. Hold up. If they were BLM protestors theyíd actually be classed as rioters instead by trump and co.

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Blimey.

Can't help thinking if they were BLM protestors storming the Capitol, there would be stacks of dead bodies everywhere.
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Utter disgrace

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No difference between that maggot Trump and Jimmy Hoffa. What a disgrace he's turned the USA into.
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imagine this conversation...

Gavin - look Johnny! I've got you a lovely new bike helmet.

Johnny - but I haven't got a bike

Gavin - see! it's lovely and new and shiny!

Johnny - but I haven't got a bike

Gavin - enjoy! and don't forget to tell all your friends where you got your new helmet.

Johnny - but I haven't got a bike

Gavin - can't stop - I'm off to deliver a helmet to Sally next door

Johnny - but she hasn't ... oh, never mind. **** off Gavin
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If kids don't have access to a laptop they can go to school as they are classed as vulnerable , hows it working out with the spring promise, that every kid was going to get a laptop ?
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If anyone was in any doubt whether or not the American era as the world superpower was over , watch the news tonight !
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hmmm - we've been advised that as 'public servants' the work from home guidance doesn't apply and the expectation is that we are in the building.

grey area... like my head!
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My missus says teachers in her school get a choice, they can do lessons from home or in the building. Depending on the subject some prefer to go in because it's easier.
Anyway enough about her school for today
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fair play to her

support staff / admin staff / TA's / SLT doing the testing appears to be a common theme.

I'm at home until the end of the week working online - I've noticed that my working day has become extended to just before midnight - although some of the stuff i did later on last night may have been a bit red wine enabled...

in school delivering 'live' online lessons from Monday. Not sure of the logic in saying we must be in the school building (and risk the school internet crashing due to constant use by 100+ teachers) rather than do the very same job from my table here, but it's government dictate so i won't look for any sense in it
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Forgot to say that the NEU said don't worry you'll still get full pay if you don't go in which must be tempting when you've been off the two weeks previous

My missus went in today to start testing staff, only 18 of them were in so time to get used to things, keyworker kids will be tested tomorrow
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My Mrs says her school is safe as can be with the bubbles they had formed before Christmas.......Government gives guidelines and Heads have to enforce i suppose.

bit of JP humour
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The NASUWT advice was a bit less vociferous but did state that staff shouldn't feel pressure to work in unsafe conditions.

But of course all schools are safe. Boris told just a couple of days ago.

I have very mixed feelings about the teacher unions. I've refused to strike in the past over teachers pensions as I only see the students suffering with that action. I do support their strengths in questioning this appalling education minister though.




He can **** off by the way

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Yeah, self isolating and bored......
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Feeding time again Wayne?
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Who gives a ****.......go to work, pay ya taxes and have a beer......
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If anyone believes they are impartial still they need to give their GP a ring ASAP for testing. Not been impartial for years. I mean, question time rarely has non-Tory audiences which says a lot!
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Whilst we are on the subject of bias ,the new bbc chairman Richard Sharp has donated over £400 000 to the Tory party , don't you just love a bit of impartiality !
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As my missus is a Teaching Assistant I listened to all of that 2nd link and it reminded me of a NEU zoom meeting on Sunday she was on. As it was on loudspeaker I heard what was being said and it seemed to me they were heavily politically pressurising people to go against the government and deem their workplace unsafe and refuse to attend. They were liking it to construction workers refusing to work on unsafe building sites
Doesnít matter now seeing thereís a lockdown but it made me think whether the NEU is more interested in causing political trouble than educating kids.
If like the unions you donít like the current government it must make it difficult to think with an unbiased head.

My missus went on a Covid testing training day yesterday. She's keen to start test the kids but they are all at home playing Playstation
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Explanation of the temporary Talk Radio Youtube ban, don't question anything...LINK

The offending interview LINK

As one of the comments on Youtube states:

'I think they got offended at being called Corbynista's and then relegating their position in society below shop workers must have blown their minds..'
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   Old Thread  #1537 5 Jan 2021 at 5.28pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Who gets to govern the media and what is their agenda ???
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   Old Thread  #1536 4 Jan 2021 at 2.29pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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it's fake news, its a fake recording.........Yep....
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   Old Thread  #1535 4 Jan 2021 at 12.53pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Assange , not to be extradited , yet !


And here's the irony ' the US has 15 days to appeal. Making it January 19th. Biden becomes potus the following day at noon. It was Biden's 1994 crime bill that created the very mass incarceration system that the judge won't extradite Assange too !
This was a face saving exercise for the uk as if the case was to reach the high court , which it would of under appeal , it would of been a high profile event and the embarrassing more than questionable evidence would of been widely reported !



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   Old Thread  #1534 4 Jan 2021 at 12.07pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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no doubt Wayne will be in here with the "it's fake news, its a fake recording" crap that the american trump supporters are already spouting.
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   Old Thread  #1533 4 Jan 2021 at 0.12am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
So Trump tries to cheat the result in Georgia with threats and lies...

Hardly surprising given his track record but utterly disgraceful nonetheless.

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   Old Thread  #1532 24 Dec 2020 at 4.48pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Replying to what suits your thoughts.......classic.......

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   Old Thread  #1531 24 Dec 2020 at 4.00pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Sold down the river springs to mind Mr goose
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   Old Thread  #1530 24 Dec 2020 at 2.38pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Doing a Terry.









Still searching.
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   Old Thread  #1529 24 Dec 2020 at 1.58pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I replied to things of relevance , you seem to of not been able to reply as you couldn't find a copy n paste to suite !
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   Old Thread  #1528 24 Dec 2020 at 1.40pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Concessions made by both sides
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   Old Thread  #1527 24 Dec 2020 at 11.21am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Way before that post spanky!

Of course I read it.......seems you didnít as still havenít replied to each point......
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   Old Thread  #1526 24 Dec 2020 at 10.33am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Did you really read it first especially this bit , do my eyes deceive me , this is what you think will happen , really !



More accountable political system. Direct Parliamentary accountability. Politicians no longer hiding behind EU rules.
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   Old Thread  #1525 24 Dec 2020 at 10.31am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You sticking by what you said , or the "copy n paste" that made you all warm n fuzzy !

Just for you spanky...........Oh and Jon who is still talking to his dog!!!!

We are taking back control of borders with a points based system of immigration so no more scrounging ****ers bleed us dry.
We can start making our own laws and regulations to match.
A British regulatory framework will be able to better exploit the fourth industrial revolution and avoid EU protectionism.
Controlling trade policy, leading to new and better agreements such as the Japan FTA and joining the CPTPP.
An independent sanctions and human rights regime separate to and more progressive than the EUís.
Taking back control of fishing waters and exclusive economic zone.
Replacing the wasteful anti-environmental Common Agricultural Policy.
More accountable political system. Direct Parliamentary accountability. Politicians no longer hiding behind EU rules.
A new state aid regime that is responsive and in keeping with free market principles, but also that support the agenda of levelling up.
New freeports.
Taking back control of the £20 billion currently controlled by the EU every year to spend on UK priorities instead of a big piss up for Merkel and her mates.

Happy days.....Boris and Nige were spot o
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   Old Thread  #1524 24 Dec 2020 at 10.09am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Look back further than that and you will see I said it........
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   Old Thread  #1523 24 Dec 2020 at 10.01am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Cheers Wayne , kind of what was said about 3 weeks ago in the "end is nigh "
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   Old Thread  #1522 24 Dec 2020 at 8.57am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Surprise surprise an oven ready trade deal is secured........wonder what concessions have been made by both sides......
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   Old Thread  #1521 23 Dec 2020 at 8.18pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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or his brother.
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   Old Thread  #1520 23 Dec 2020 at 8.13pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It reminded me of Jerzei Balowski
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   Old Thread  #1519 23 Dec 2020 at 8.01pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Can't argue with that too much
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   Old Thread  #1518 23 Dec 2020 at 7.49pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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yeh. we all get a mention.

personally, for me, it's the media. too powerful and too rich.

they put a Govt in and then trash them for sales and clicks. so they are scared to do anything except make the very powerful more powerful. and to show both sides. So did Blair.
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   Old Thread  #1517 23 Dec 2020 at 7.39pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Unbiased as everyone gets a mention.
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   Old Thread  #1516 23 Dec 2020 at 7.31pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I think Boris and his whole 'saving Christmas ' schtick says all we need to know.

About the govt ( shouldn't have promised it so near the top of an infection curve)
about the press ( bitching and moaning about Xmas and digging them out about U turns)
about us ( majority voting for a cartoon panel show proven liar and rogue)
about the opposition ( for being so **** that the Cons looked better.)





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   Old Thread  #1515 23 Dec 2020 at 7.05pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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From where I'm sitting It looks to me all of your neutrality has gone out of the window and you've taken on an unhippy bias
You probably think I'm biased in the other direction so lets leave it there. Peace and love man

BTW I imagined Neil's voice


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   Old Thread  #1514 23 Dec 2020 at 6.39pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No not at all. I'm the last person who'd be a covid denier after it affecting my family.

But...

I think the response has been appalling and it's becoming the norm now for a government who appear to be sponsored by lastminute.com

I take on board what you have said often about uncharted territory and all, but the response is getting poorer rather than better and this has undermined any government decision going forward. It's a mess and I have no faith in this lot to actually protect people anymore. It's easy to blame Macron for the border closure, but if this virus variant is so much more contagious then OUR government should have imposed travel bans for the safety of others.

The mantra of following the science - that at least made some sense - has been replaced by weak attempts at popularity seeking, passing off responsibility and disjointed and contradictory policy.

IMHO of course.

If it helps... read the above with Marvin's voice narrating.

Peace and love tinhead.
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