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ip100
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ip100
   Old Thread  #42 6 Jul 2020 at 4.03pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #41
No that isn't what I said at all. Read it again, and if you've seen my posting on here previously you'd see dropping leads is one of my major issues with carp angling today
Baitman
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Baitman
   Old Thread  #41 6 Jul 2020 at 3.46pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #39
Thats just ridiculous.
You reckon you must drop the lead every time, irrespective of the lake conditions... really!

I only want to drop the lead if there is a real need, like a very weedy lake, snags, etc.
Mr-Bean-Laden
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Mr-Bean-Laden
   Old Thread  #40 6 Jul 2020 at 11.04am  0  Login    Register
I tend to use the fox lead clips with the pegs and in the weedy lake I fish, I lose around 90% of the leads on the take.

I recently changed over to Korda hybrid ones and lost only 10% (over about 20 takes).

My conclusion: the arms on the Fox ones are not as stiff and even if the rubber doesn't come off, the arms tend to pull out and release the leads.
ip100
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ip100
   Old Thread  #39 5 Jul 2020 at 5.02pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #38
No, it's essential fullstop, irrelevant of if you want to drop the lead or not
Baitman
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Baitman
   Old Thread  #38 5 Jul 2020 at 2.56pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #33
I never said locking the swivel into a lead clip was an error. Thats essential if you set it up to drop the lead.
I said that locking the swivel in AND jamming the tail rubber on was the error.
Halfcentury
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   Old Thread  #37 5 Jul 2020 at 1.41pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #35
Keep saying it and maybe they will listen. And don't drop the lead on a heli.
noj
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   Old Thread  #36 5 Jul 2020 at 11.46am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #35
I know mate, my post wasn’t a reply to yours. Just a general point about leadcore
BRB
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BRB
   Old Thread  #35 5 Jul 2020 at 11.26am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #34
Hi Noj, I'm referring to the use of lead clips generally. Totally agree if you really have to use leadcore then it is helicopters.
noj
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   Old Thread  #34 5 Jul 2020 at 10.57am  0  Login    Register
The lead discharging is neither here nor there really.
Having a rig permanently fixed to the leadcore is the problem as the weight of it means it will be hanging down waiting to snag something. A heli set up SHOULD allow it to rid the hooklink; wether running, in-line or leadclip by being fixed to the end it’s a ‘death rig’
BRB
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BRB
   Old Thread  #33 5 Jul 2020 at 8.50am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #32
Even at this stage of the thread people still talking of locking the swivel in as user error - amazing.
Edit, referring to post 31.
ip100
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ip100
   Old Thread  #32 5 Jul 2020 at 8.22am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #31
That's the same with any lead clip chap, irrelevant of make the tail rubber can be pushed on too far. And they need to clip in to the swivel to make them safe
Baitman
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Baitman
   Old Thread  #31 5 Jul 2020 at 0.39am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #30
The original korda clips with the swivel clicked into place and the ribbed arm to hold the tail rubber on are the worse...

Yes they can be fished safety, but far too easy for idiots to lock the swivel in, and then also ram the tail rubber all the way on...
No need for the ribbed section to give extra grip for the tail rubber at all.
Halfcentury
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   Old Thread  #30 4 Jul 2020 at 5.46pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #29
It illustrates the fact that leadclips with the tail rubber pushed fully onto the clip are not fish friendly semi-fixed rigs. They become lethal fixed rigs which have been banned on most lakes for decades. Have only ever landed three fish trailing line, all of the rigs involved included line clips.
KenTownley
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KenTownley
   Old Thread  #29 4 Jul 2020 at 5.18pm  0  Login    Register
Two rig horror stories showing how the use and abuse of lead clips can lead to huge problems. In both cases the lead has not discharged and the set up on the right includes leadcore which probably caused the tangles after the rig cracked off..



PB Products Hit and Run clip is the ONLY one I would ever consider using.
Blonde_Tim
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Blonde_Tim
   Old Thread  #28 1 Jul 2020 at 8.26am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #21
Excellent points, fully agree.

FYI - Arnie the Common was Orchid lakes, which obviously now bans all leaders.
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