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   Old Thread  #10 23 Jun 2020 at 12.56pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #9 23 Jun 2020 at 9.51am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Obviously certain hooks are better for certain applications, For stiff rigs in general you want an out turned eye or the gape of the hook gets closed up too much. For other types of rig most patterns will do. In general I carry wide gapes, choddys and muggas for combis,d-rigs and ronnies respectively. Of course I've got loads of packets of hooks of different brands and patterns but those 3 are what i use most.
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   Old Thread  #8 21 Jun 2020 at 10.32pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I half think i saw it somewhere in a mag as a kid. Probably not.

I was partial to a size 7 myself, suffered few hookpulls. Ive recently gone back to smaller hooks after using 4's for years.
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   Old Thread  #7 19 Jun 2020 at 9.29pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Made me smile as I have been partial to a stiff rigger/kicker/soft braid combo for bottom baits in the past too. Definately wierd but definately works!
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   Old Thread  #6 2 Jun 2020 at 7.28pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #5 2 Jun 2020 at 7.04pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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In-turned eye hooks are generally used with a softer hooklink materials to avoid narrowing down the gape of the hook. Your semi stiff coated braid of any coated braid really should be fine. I would avoid stuff like amnesia or other stiff hooklinks as it kicks the hook out at a awkward angel with certain rigs and reduces the gape of the hook.

Straight eye hooks. Can be used as above and also with certain stiffer materials like Gardner trick link I generally again wouldn’t use something mega stiff but I know people that do.

Out turned eye hooks are generally used with a stiff material so the gape is not closed up by a stiff hooklink, chods, hinge stiff, rigs ,stiff d rigs, in essence what your trying to achieve is avoiding narrowing the gape of the hook to the point where it hinders the hooks chance of grabbing hold and penetrating.

In these hooks you also have beaked or straight points which is a discussion in itself. Generally a straight point will hook the fish quicker being straight they penetrate much quicker. But if fished say wafter style on gravel the hook can bounce around a lot and eventually burr over where a beaked point hook will offer more protection due to the point being curved, I like to use straight point hooks a lot especially if the bottom is a bit softer and especially on my pop up rigs.

Beaked point hooks generally stay in better than straight point hooks. Think of a eagles claw designed to keep stuff attached once penetrated. If fishing over gravel etc they are perfect for bottom baits of Wafters due to the protection of the point. They can take a little longer to grab hold in the fishes mouth due to the shape of the point but when there in the curve of the hook point makes it super reliable.

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   Old Thread  #4 2 Jun 2020 at 12.08pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thanks for your replies guys.
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   Old Thread  #3 2 Jun 2020 at 10.39am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hook pattern matters but im not convinced all that much. For years, for reasons unknown to myself i wouldn't use anything other than ESP stiff riggers, with shrink tube over the eye for a kicker on merlin braid for bottom baits, looked a ******* but really worked.

I personally limit myself to a few hook patterns as i was prone to chopping and changing all the time without specific reason.

Bottom bait fishing - Drennan barbel hook size 4. Straight point, wide(ish) gape inturned eye. Usually fish it claw style and at times KD with a lighter bait.

Popup fishing - Korda Mixa size 6. Straight eye, wide gape, beak point. Not too fussed about the beak point of this pattern as it is sitting in prone position anyway. Tied with a small shrink kicker and whipped kd style but slightly further down the shank.

Snag fishing i change the patterns to the cryogen classic or cryogen gripper in size 5.

More specifically - inturned will promote the hook flipping over due to the direction of pull, outurned is to reduce this in effect as the stiffer materials would close the gape too much and be weakened by the sharp angle as it exits the eye. Straight vs beaked - it appears an item of preference. Beak points apparently don't catch gravel and therefore less prone to dulling, and stay in the fish better- im skeptical myself.

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   Old Thread  #2 2 Jun 2020 at 8.21am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It'd take several pages to answer this mate.
If you google 'carp hook patterns' the first three articles that come up answer most of your questions buddy.
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   Old Thread  #1 1 Jun 2020 at 5.35pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Good afternoon fellow Carpers.
Quick question on hook styles.
in-turned, out-turned or straight points, what's the advantages/disadvantages of them and are some better suited to certain rigs?
Look forward to your replies
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