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   Old Thread  #884 25 Jun 2020 at 4.37pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I don’t think they have done the cause any justice all, quite opposite. What turns out to be a “street party” turns out to be BLM, black on blue fest when it all kicks off.

Might be some truth in what you say, the minority spoil it for the majority, people will just get fed up with it and it will be another flavour of the month

There is a clear lack of respect here and that is point number 1 that needs to be addressed. Good job all those thousands of knob heads laid on the beach together like sardines in a tin didn’t kick off and have a riot ain’t it!
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   Old Thread  #883 25 Jun 2020 at 3.42pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi Scozza,

I know you have a particular concern about the scores of police being injured over the past weeks, because your wife is a police officer. I hope she is staying safe and not in the front line, which is no place for female officers.

I tend to agree with Sir B that the silent majority may be becoming sceptical about the developments emerging from BLM re the removal of statues and looking for anything like road names, that might be construed as having a racial connotation.
I suspect that many may be beginning to believe that BLM has now been blown out of all proportion.
I believe that this will all blow over in a few weeks and that little will change. Companies donating money and making conciliatory noises are paying lip service for their own expediency. Re employment, they will carry on recruiting in their own best interests. Mook and others have shown that racial intolerance can be a factor between all races in the workplace and no doubt, also on the street, when different cultures interact.
Human nature is such that, casual racism will always exist to some extent and the trick is, not to try and eradicate it, because you can't, but to encourage people to rise above it.
Education and the path it leads to is the key. When people make good choices as to their future and become responsible members of mainstream society, they lose the yoke of victimhood and have the armour of self confidence to look down and dismiss any discrimination.

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   Old Thread  #882 25 Jun 2020 at 3.29pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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They are all bad
Pubs fights as well

And we shouldn't accept it by saying 'oh well that's what happens'
I'd start a protest group about it but it'll only end in a fight

I hope the injured police make a quick recovery and the troublemakers a slow one( was going to say I hope they don't recover but that would probably break forum rules)
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   Old Thread  #881 25 Jun 2020 at 3.15pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No difference at all
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   Old Thread  #880 25 Jun 2020 at 3.12pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Wait until the pubs open, on a Saturday of all days.
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   Old Thread  #879 25 Jun 2020 at 3.04pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
note that it's being misreported then. The police are saying unlicensed music event, just like those illegal manchester raves we heard about last week. the MSM are calling it a party. the two are different.

The manchester illegal raves ended in murders, violence between attendees and not the police. This ended in no deaths and violence toward the police. Both bad, but at least there were no murders (so far) linked to this illegal music event.

Compare the 'party' to the 'party' the right wingers had in London under the guise of 'protecting statues' what is the difference? Booze & drugs and then kicking off with police. whole lot of the same thing really.
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   Old Thread  #878 25 Jun 2020 at 2.40pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
It was done purely to provoke the police, they wouldn't normally having parties in the street.

Honestly if you banned shi****ng in your own shoes, some clown would be desperate to do it just to throw off the chains of oppression
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   Old Thread  #877 25 Jun 2020 at 2.36pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Doesn't sound good does it, can we really write this off as just a bit of youth exuberance due to boredom?
Wasn't if they were protesting about a worthwhile cause and it got out of hand.
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   Old Thread  #876 25 Jun 2020 at 2.26pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
BBC news latest:

Twenty-two police officers have been injured and their vehicles damaged during clashes at an illegal street party in south-west London.

Two officers and two people at the party were taken to hospital following the "unlicensed music event" in Brixton on Wednesday night.

Four people were arrested during the clashes.A Downing Street spokesman said: "These were appalling scenes. Violence against the police will not be tolerated."


The Met described the attacks on police as "totally unacceptable".


Police arrested four people for assault and public order offences
A dispersal order had been put in place earlier in the day and police officers tried to encourage the crowd to leave following complaints from residents.
The event near Angell Town continued so more officers attended and the group became hostile, the Met Police said.

Footage on social media showed a number of police vehicles being smashed and officers being chased.
Another video also appears to show two men being attacked with a knife.
London Ambulance Service said two partygoers were taken to hospital in police vehicles, with one needing treatment at a major trauma unit.
Four people were arrested for assault and public order offences. They remain in custody.

Volunteers have been cleaning up the site of the street party

The Prime Minister's official spokesman said the government would shortly be launching a consultation on doubling the maximum sentence for assaulting an emergency worker.
The spokesman said: "We have been clear that anyone who assaults the police or any of our emergency service workers who keep us safe should feel the full force of the law."
Michael, a local bus driver who did not want to give a his surname, said it was "very upsetting" the violence had happened in his area.

"The whole thing should have been shut down earlier," he said.
Police later implemented a Section 60 order, which gives increased stop and search powers.


Large crowds gathered in Brixton for an unlicensed music event, police said
Ken Marsh, chairman of the Metropolitan Police Federation, said nearly 30 of his colleagues were "walking wounded".

"No-one expects this level of violence and hostility to just erupt at the speed it does towards police. It's horrendous," he said.

He also raised concerns about large gatherings when lockdown is eased and pubs reopen on 4 July, saying "ultimately it always seems to fall on the police's shoulders to deal with everything".
"There is no place in society for disorder and wanting to cause violence and pain and grief towards public and police alike," Mr Marsh said.

Home Secretary Priti Patel tweeted: "Just last weekend, the whole country came together to praise our heroic police officers for putting their own lives on the line to keep us safe.
"I'll be picking up with the Met Commissioner immediately."
Cdr Colin Wingrove said: "These gatherings are unlawful, as well as posing a risk to public health and against coronavirus restrictions.
"The violence shown towards officers is totally unacceptable and we will not tolerate it in any form."


What a bunch of ****ing idiots

Serves them right if they all get it. Knob heads
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   Old Thread  #875 25 Jun 2020 at 12.38pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I heard they threw a Zimmer frame at a police horse
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   Old Thread  #874 25 Jun 2020 at 12.26pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Ok this is accidently becoming a COVID thread I'm sure the pensioners didn't riot
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   Old Thread  #873 25 Jun 2020 at 12.10pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I expect young people are well aware of the fact that Covid poses little risk to them so are more inclined to ignore the social distancing guidelines, especially once they've had a drink.

The most irresponsible scenes I've seen photos of was the idiotic VE day street party full of pensioners eating cake that an elderly relation sent me.
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   Old Thread  #872 25 Jun 2020 at 12.03pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I think the main thing to take from the two stories, the Brighton one lays out in detail what happened whereas the Brixton one doesnt, it eludes to why a riot occurred. Something sparked it and only the police and the partygoers know what that was. Where the police aggressive? Was something said out of turn? Was it just because the demographic of people there are likely to not like the police anyway due to lifestyle choices?
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   Old Thread  #871 25 Jun 2020 at 11.58am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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That one was totally wrong as well then but as you say that one was eventually dispersed without a riot so not as newsworthy.
So that two incidents both totally wrong.
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   Old Thread  #870 25 Jun 2020 at 11.57am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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People think and react in different ways. Rave/ Tribal gathering events will always happen, just that it's against the lockdown rules at the minute. It's difficult to stop young people doing what they want. I've heard a few raves have been organised by dealers for obvious reasons but don't know how true that is.
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