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   Old Thread  #1642 22 Aug 2020 at 9.13pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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There might be with this incident but the officers on the frontline can't win.If they are seen to be doing nothing they are useless and if they over step the mark even slightly they are suspended.When there are no police left on the streets because nobody wants to do the job anymore then crime will go through the roof
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   Old Thread  #1641 22 Aug 2020 at 9.05pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I thought you have to complete a fitness test and physicals to be a police officer? Surely thatís the measure of being capable to deal with the job. Then again, I see plenty of police that probably couldnít run 10m.

Not sure ethnicity, etc has anything to do with being capable to handle the job. Could be a 10st BJJ black belt thatís capable of handling the physicality of the job. Literally just being able to do your job should be a requirement of getting a job.
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   Old Thread  #1640 22 Aug 2020 at 9.00pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yeah so they didnít investigate because they knew he acted professionally and that was proved by releasing the full footage...
They didnít refer this incident to the IPCC for nothing. Thereís clearly some element of doubt that he did not carry out his duties how he should have done.
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   Old Thread  #1639 22 Aug 2020 at 9.00pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Either proper training or only employ capable people

That is not feasible remember, ethnicity, disabled groups, options for all, its sad but thats the truth.
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   Old Thread  #1638 22 Aug 2020 at 8.57pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The public can cry wolf these days and it gets investigated.There was a video released in America by the public showing an officer pulling a woman from a stationery car.The video looked shocking and the officer looked like he had handled it very badly.The police force he worked for decided to release the full video from his patrol car and that showed the true events,he had acted professionally throughout and asked the woman over 20 times to exit the vehicle.She was swearing and being abusive throughout the whole incident
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   Old Thread  #1637 22 Aug 2020 at 8.51pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yeah. See post with link below.

Itís like you said, 10st adult isnít equipped to deal with larger people intent on doing everything to evade capture. Either proper training or only employ capable people.
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   Old Thread  #1636 22 Aug 2020 at 8.50pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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If there was nothing wrong with what he did it wouldnít need investigating...
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   Old Thread  #1635 22 Aug 2020 at 8.48pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Be nice if I did

Iím posting what I know, how about you?

You have raised a good point though, the training is extremely poor
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   Old Thread  #1634 22 Aug 2020 at 8.48pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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If the incident is being investigated he has to be suspended whilst the investigation takes place
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   Old Thread  #1633 22 Aug 2020 at 8.47pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
some of you might want to read this ... police code of ethics. Minimum force necessary....nothing to make the public lose trust in the police force.... a few more that this incident probably has this officer making his case for.
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   Old Thread  #1632 22 Aug 2020 at 8.40pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Itís braderís world. His words.
Sorry that you know everything about everything and no one else does
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   Old Thread  #1631 22 Aug 2020 at 8.38pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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As I said, heís suspended so he clearly didnít do his job properly. Otherwise he wouldnít be. Regardless of what crimes been committed the police donít serve the justice, they apprehend criminals so the justice can be served in a court of law. Thatís how it works apparently in this country.

I already said what id do, parva, taser or sweep the legs for a takedown or a noj said, a baton to the knee to drop them. Get my fellow officer who is also there to help restrain and arrest. But then it doesnít matter what Iíd do, because itís not about me is it.

I never said I think they get loads of training. Just that their training and guidance means they know their code of conduct which they have to follow or face disciplinary action.
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   Old Thread  #1630 22 Aug 2020 at 8.34pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I would give it up mate. Your out of touch with the real world, or I will say, as I know it
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   Old Thread  #1629 22 Aug 2020 at 8.31pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No no. You said it yourself. Your mate pulled you off him otherwise ďit would have ended badly for my attackerĒ. You then claimed to know your limits (clearly not as your friend had to pull you off) and got told you were fine to do what you did (what you did until your friend pulled you off, what you would have done if your friend hadnt from what you described as ending badly, sounds as if it would have been beyond what is deemed acceptable)

All your own words. Nothing about me determining anything.

So why are you talking about your experience with a kids spoon then
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   Old Thread  #1628 22 Aug 2020 at 8.23pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The point is, contrary to your believes, they donít get much training

Which is why I asked you initially, how you would deal with it?

What would you do, run off?

You know, for example, 10 stone uni student with no life experience deals with 16 stone raging nutter, yer, er, can you stop that please

What you think happens, does not happen

For the record. That **** was smack outside a police van (no respect for the law) and he decided to run across the road and chin the victim and lift him off his feet before leaving him unconscious which at that point the police intervened
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