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   Old Thread  #160 5 Jun 2020 at 9.18pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You've just confirmed again why I think it pointless trying to discuss serious issues with you and your left wing colleagues on here. Your post is another stream of ridicule and insult.

Parklife

Not once do you offer any sensible counter arguement to the specific points I make re inner city black social problems.

Parklife

I'm sure it hasn't gone unnoticed that you and others, regularly rubbish opposing opinions in order to try and silence and discredit the valid views of those that disagree with you.

Parklife

It is a standard tactic of the left, because your virtue signalling ideology can't be allowed to be called to account.

Parklife

If you want to be taken seriously, then drop your glib, jester persona and tell us what problems you think inner city blacks in the US face and the policies you would endorse to address them.

Parklife

By the way, yes, there is some intelligent discussion on here, but it's not coming from you.

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   Old Thread  #159 5 Jun 2020 at 2.43pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi Jon,

You've just confirmed again why I think it pointless trying to discuss serious issues with you and your left wing colleagues on here. Your post is another stream of ridicule and insult.
Not once do you offer any sensible counter arguement to the specific points I make re inner city black social problems.
I'm sure it hasn't gone unnoticed that you and others, regularly rubbish opposing opinions in order to try and silence and discredit the valid views of those that disagree with you.
It is a standard tactic of the left, because your virtue signalling ideology can't be allowed to be called to account.
If you want to be taken seriously, then drop your glib, jester persona and tell us what problems you think inner city blacks in the US face and the policies you would endorse to address them.
By the way, yes, there is some intelligent discussion on here, but it's not coming from you.

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   Old Thread  #158 5 Jun 2020 at 2.27pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Think you have to be very careful when you call ALL anti fascists scum. The groups that call define themselves as ANTIFA as a disguise and then use very facist methods arenít really ANTIFA are they.

If all anti fascists are scum, then youíve just insulted any WW1 and 2 veteran. Youíve just called Winston Churchill scum.

ANTIFA is an abbreviation for anti Fascist. There are extreme anti fascists, just as there are extreme right wingers too. Generalisation is something discussed here in the thread already.

I agree that there are groups of idiots that incite violence and anarchy that hide under the guise of the anti fascist monicker and stand for a very extreme views.
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   Old Thread  #157 5 Jun 2020 at 2.23pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Bang on 👍 not getting into Antifa as I donít know a lot about them but there does seem to be an awful lot of ď professional ď protesters about,
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   Old Thread  #156 5 Jun 2020 at 1.54pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Antifa are scum, inverseley facist themselves, encouraging violence and anachy to the detriment of local communities. Seen them here in the UK stirring up hatred in tinderbox communities whilst the lefty types ignore them. Pure scum.
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   Old Thread  #155 5 Jun 2020 at 1.49pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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so please correct me on that if Iím wrong No you're not wrong but if I were to say to someone their ancestors spent longer in the sun then mine then some people might say that's racist.
Anyway there's no need for us drag it out I was just trying to make a point of how careful we all have to be nowadays.

Luckily the young seem to be so much more tolerant and accepting so it will likely die out as time goes on
Yes I'm noticing that is what's happening, each generation a little more tolerant than the previous.


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but thatís another subject.
Although I agree maybe leave that for another threadLuckily the young seem to be so much more tolerant and accepting so it will likely die out as time goes on
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   Old Thread  #154 5 Jun 2020 at 1.44pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thatís exactly my point, treat people as they treat you is how it should be regardless of colour, race, religion or sexual preference, Although I draw the line at middle age hippies from the Wirral 😂, I cant help the era I was born, I wasnít forced to sit through racist entertainment, it was the norm and acceptable, the ethnicity of the country was still low and one could argue they didnít have a voice like today to stop such things, but I do get enraged like many of my age group when I see people from other countries coming here to live and then expecting us to bend and appease to the lifestyle they chose to leave, Iím not on about immigrants fleeing war zones although I do raise my eyes when you realise how many safe countries they travel through to get here, but thatís another subject.
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   Old Thread  #153 5 Jun 2020 at 1.39pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Itís actually proven by science that sun exposure is the cause of different skin colours, maybe should have put a source in:
Now I donít know if a scientific fact can be racist or not, so please correct me on that if Iím wrong.

To correct racism and the inequalities between races of very very complex. It canít be done quickly purely based on the fact that anger and resentment do not disappear that quickly. Itís long term support and change thatís required. Commitment to actual meaningful projects and attitude changes that provide equality for all races. I think it has to be addressed via fixing wealth inequality issues (doing this also helps any poor person of any race) because there is people that will say ďitís racist to not help white poor people as wellĒ I had to deal with one such person that had held on to something for 15yrs and uses it to claim white privilege doesnít exist in the world.

Essentially as a child his football team, mainly white children from a normal area, did not get funding for new facilities but the team from a poorer area, who were mainly BAME, did. He was bitter about it 15yrs later!! His issue was that the poor community got the investment and the better off one didnít. He got angry when I tried to explain why that proves the point of privilege, in that case white privilege due to the make up of the communities that he stated. Comfortable white person angry that poorer BAME people got invested in over them.

Large side note sorry!!

Back to the main point, the reason it has to be long term change in so many areas is because itís so multifaceted and ingrained in so many places within society it cannot just be cut out in an instant. Itís hidden everywhere. It only takes a racist person in a position of power in a business or government or wherever to filter it down through the ranks.

As a starting point everyone should be calling out the casual racism, because thatís something we can ALL do and we can ALL create change. Call out your friends/family/parents/colleagues/bosses on it. Donít be afraid to do it, donít turn a blind eye to it because you might be cast out of that group of mates, do you really want to be friends with them anyway if that is there ideologies? Educate yourselves and others, read books, watch films, listen to actual victims of racism, all of them, poor/rich or whatever. Ask them questions to define things you might be unsure about. Make sure the future generations see everyone as equal and donít get subject to parents or grandparents negative ideologies. Luckily the young seem to be so much more tolerant and accepting so it will likely die out as time goes on but we mustnít let them be influenced by others.
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   Old Thread  #152 5 Jun 2020 at 1.27pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I get that Jim Maybe the younger amongst us might not though?
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   Old Thread  #151 5 Jun 2020 at 1.24pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi Beany,

Glad you're back, I was scared you'd 'got the covids'.

My post was DEFINITELY abusive nonsense.

I enjoy your performance outrage, which started in the Coronavirus thread when you stated that my description of Johnson as 'lazy, unreliable and a liar' was, and I quote, 'gratuitous abuse'. That made me laugh.

Now you may like to order people to watch your carefully selected videos, but I'm not buying it. You try your very best to cultivate your own self image as a right wing intellectual, but you're way off the mark. I imagine you tell people 'I'm on a fishing forum ... they all call me 'the professor', goodness knows why?'

There's plenty of 'intelligent discussion' on this thread, but I'd class your contribution as denial, deflection, downplaying, victim blaming, excuses and not much more.



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   Old Thread  #150 5 Jun 2020 at 1.23pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Well said James
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   Old Thread  #149 5 Jun 2020 at 1.22pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Iíve seen the black and white minstrel show on Bournemouth pier, read the book Sambo and the tiger at primary school and also Agatha Christieís Ten little N***** boys at secondary ( * did that for you Mal 😁 ) laughed at Love thy neighbour. the list goes on and on..... Racist now but quite normal back then. The tolerance levels seem to lessen with each generation, much the same as beating your wife and birching children, bear baiting and public executions, being born in a different era doesnít make one a racist just not so sensitive as todayís generation
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   Old Thread  #148 5 Jun 2020 at 1.18pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi Greekskii,

My post wasn't directed at you, neither do I think yours was directed at me.
I simply don't know how to delete the reply to thing.

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   Old Thread  #147 5 Jun 2020 at 12.55pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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their ancestors spent more time in the sun than theirs did
Some people would call that racist but we all know that's not the case with you, just saying

So what can be done about racism. Telling people not to do it doesn't work so what can be done?
It needs change from both sides black and white but the onus seems mostly to be on the white side.
Rioting won't change anything it will just entrench peoples racist views further.

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My guess he will be prosecuted for 2nd degree murder. Cops may of got away with it in the past but I can't see it happening this time.
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   Old Thread  #146 5 Jun 2020 at 12.48pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Probably because charged and prosecuted are two completely different things.
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