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In reply to Post #11
Spot on. PVA is the key.
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In reply to Post #10
They are literally impossible to use without pva imo mate.
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In reply to Post #9
Watching some of my casts with an adjustable, I just stare thinking there’s no way that’s popping up- but it does- very strange.
Little nick of pva tape or a nugget attached to the float seems to prevent the tangles
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In reply to Post #4
They cast like a bag of spanners but the y definitely work 
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In reply to Post #7
If the lead doesn't catch the overhead trees neither will the rig. However, I have only ever gone up to 13ft and would question the buoyancy of the bait needed to hold up a longer length. As others have suggested an adjustable rig would remove this factor.
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In reply to Post #6
 
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In reply to Post #5
I consider myself to be chief faffer anyway, so it wouldn't be anything new to me 
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In reply to Post #4
They're decent mate. I use them in anything over 12ft depth. Saves a lot of faffing about.
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In reply to Post #2
Thanks Yonny,
Never used them before so will look into that.
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In reply to Post #1
Agree with post 2. Adjustables the way to go. Take a bit of thought and effort to master, but they work very well. In tight swims with a four foot hook link you only have 2ft line below the lead.
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In reply to Post #1
I'd think you need adjustables in that depth anyway which solves the problem buddy
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Fishing a deep pit, some 20+ ft deep (deep to me as opposed to my normal fishing situation), and want to get up in the water using zigs, and wondered if anyone ties back their zigs to shorten them with PVA string?
Casting isn't particularly easy with overhanging trees that I have no doubt the zigs would end up catching on resulting in snap offs, so need to shorten them somehow without comprising length when out in the middle.
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