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   Old Thread  #51 7 May 2020 at 8.39pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I love stuff about the CIA, probably all true, probably reading this because they got a mention

I would love to know what they REALLY get up to. Probably the most corrupt and dangerous people on the planet

Watched a program about their networks, unbelievable, millions and millions of people!!!, the FBI too, basically blackmail people to spy for them, even people who have committed petty crimes if they have the right connections
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   Old Thread  #50 7 May 2020 at 8.26pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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gonna take me a while... I can only handle so much 'truth' at a time...

why is it that so many of these videos are so bloody awful in production? (hollywood conspiracy? )


What's your take on organ donation then as it's come up in your video recommendation?

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   Old Thread  #49 7 May 2020 at 8.17pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi Tony

I completely agree and if you go to the comments on number 10 you will find me saying exactly that and the very fact that there was not even a mention of George W Bush and his orchestration of 9/11 would seem to back their republican stance and attack on the Democratic party.

"Out of Shadows" is a fantastic and insightful look at how Hollywood is run. That is a very very well documented film by 2 top pro stunt men. In my eyes a must see and opens your eyes and mind to just how fooked up this world of ours is.

Stay with it Mal, you have a long way to go. Some, not all of what she says has been backed up by the boys in the "out of shadows" film above.
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   Old Thread  #48 7 May 2020 at 7.57pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'm sure Trump has just duped his right wing base and those who think he is anti establishment, look at his actions towards Israel, recognising Golan heights and various settlements, not to mention moving the embassy...but yeah hes America first.
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   Old Thread  #47 7 May 2020 at 7.29pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Area 51, if you haven't already a must watch is 'Area 51 - Bob Lazar and Flying Saucers' on Netflix
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   Old Thread  #46 7 May 2020 at 7.26pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The Kubrick thing is interesting given that he had done 2001 the year before which was so far ahead of anything 'space' related for its time... If I was going to get someone to direct a moon landing in 1969 he'd have been my first choice. Then again, maybe it's just too obvious and an urban myth. And I'm not sure if the Kubrick I imagine would be up for taking on a deception job for the establishment...

Dean - I'll give the videos a go cause I'm a nice guy

Edit - ok. done the first one. let's call it 'selective' when it talks about Hilary and Obama eh? unsurprising if it's moving toward a pro-Trump standpoint. Some of it obvious and misinterpreted (the reptile imagery in the Bible / religious buildings - Satan appeared as a snake in the Garden of Eden so it's been part of the story for a long time). Some of it is just pish - staying on the Vatican part for example, the telescope isn't called Lucifer...

The organ donation thing is interesting given the recent change over here. I'm happy enough for my vital organs to go and help someone after I die. Those who don't like the idea can opt out. Better than the previous we had where potentially life saving transplants couldn't happen.
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   Old Thread  #45 7 May 2020 at 7.21pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
One thing that has stood out for me ref the moon landings is the official picture of earth. the earth appears in that picture to be the same size as the moon when looking at it from earth 🌎...... how is that possible if the earth is 4 times the size of the moon.......if you were on the Moon and took a picture of the earth it would be huge!!
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   Old Thread  #44 7 May 2020 at 7.14pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Those are really interesting videos Dean. The only issue I have with them is there insistence that trump is the great saviour of humanity 🤔
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   Old Thread  #43 7 May 2020 at 7.04pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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If you can find a documentary on YouTube called “out of shadows” it has some good stuff on mk ultra and the CIA. Not too easy to find for some reason.

Edit; This is it
https://youtu.be/yK0uaNW3R7s
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   Old Thread  #42 7 May 2020 at 6.57pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi Mal

The space landing was merely used as an example of just how far and long Governments are willing to keep lying. There are infinitely older and better examples, but this one was chosen purely at random. I completely concur that it was a "up your bum" moment and a big middle finger to the Ruskies. A somewhat pathetic ner ner ne ner ner moment that they had fabricated it for a big one up over the Russians.
Ken has already pointed out that after years of constant denial, eventually these things have a habit of being true some years later, or at least an admission of guilt by some involved. The very fact that the years have taken the sting and worldwide attention from these events, should not, detract away the facts that each and every government will lie, murder, starve and enslave their own people for their own political agenda and sheer outright greed.

Pick a subject from any of a number of worldwide events and we can go down that rabbit hole.

But first i would like to ask you all to watch a couple of videos if they are still on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTbglRablNOjMIUjbw0uu1WQ4vFidawQz

Sorry that you will have to copy and paste. Isat and watched every single one of them. Some will not bother, some will watch maybe one or 2, but be ready for a shock. It will get bad press from you all, but all the info is out there to back up all this up. Happy watching.
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   Old Thread  #41 7 May 2020 at 6.44pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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moon landings are an interesting one, particularly in the context of the cold war.
does anyone have anything compelling they can share? I've heard a few theories such as kuberick having directed the footage, also if I recall correctly the original footage was lost by nasa.
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   Old Thread  #40 7 May 2020 at 6.12pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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thanks Dean

so do you have a favourite specific theory?

Most people who have an inquiring mind about it will have seen a lot of the stuff about the Moon landing and the wider context of the 'space race' between the U.S. and the Soviets. I'm not being dismissive but it feels a long time ago and not hugely relevant to many these days - even if the wider idea of government secrecy will always be relevant.



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   Old Thread  #39 7 May 2020 at 5.59pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You seem like a really nice guy Mal

Do all the rules apply here as to the carpy threads as im wondering just how quickly it will take me to get slung off.

It would appear we have another level of personal pi55 taker onboard.

Christ this is going to be more fun that i imagined for at least a day or two lol

Peoples perceptions of EVERYTHING are a direct consequence of what information they are being fed and with what regularity that information is repeated. Quite simple and there is no arguing that fact, because FACT is what it is. You will all, no, sorry, most of you will all believe the Yanks landed on the moon, especially the older among you, because of the basic fact that it was shoved down your throats for many years with continued regularity, with the same facts over and over again. This then becomes part of both your concious and your subconcious thinking. Repetition is THE number one means of delivering information and making it stick. So, whether you want to believe it or not, your brain has a really hard time accepting ANY new information to the contrary once it has been implanted into your brain. They then back up the narrative with constant pictures and moving images and scenes of joy so that it implants a happy memory in your brain, which is one we tend to want to believe more and hang on to. The pure fact that 99% of the rest of the world have been fed the same info, anyone that would dare to contest or question the validity of this joyful event gets labelled a nutter or trouble maker. It is a very simple yet very powerful and effective means by which to implant any amount of BULLS4itt. Whats that say " Bull5hit baffles brains"?

And please do me a favour..........Make your reasons better than your excuses!
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   Old Thread  #38 7 May 2020 at 5.53pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I do find conspiracy theories interesting, more so the ones that were denied but years later admitted.

Project Sunshine,” was denied by the US government only years later to be proven true.

The CIA denied MK-ULTRA was a thing but now say it was something they were doing in the 1970s.

Area 51 was denied for decades and now they admit it is real.

Operation Mockingbird
Apparently didn't exist The program was started in 1948 under CIA official Frank Wisner but only came to light in the 1970s after the Watergate scandal prompted congressional review of domestic surveillance activities.

What else will be proven to be true in a few decades time.
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   Old Thread  #37 7 May 2020 at 5.29pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Some trolls deserve to be fed.......

Moon landings Martin, I know nothing about this.......
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