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   Old Thread  #171 10 May 2020 at 12.35pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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hiya Dean

It's a bit dense at first but once all the threads start to come together it's ace. (IMHO) On first read there were some parts I had to go back over but that's no bad thing when there's a bit of detail.

And yeah I am - was it my tweed jacket with courdroy elbow patches that gave me away?




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   Old Thread  #170 10 May 2020 at 12.29pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi Aidey Kaye

What a fcuked up world indeed.

Hi ken,

Thank you for the Mark Devlin Recco. I will have a listen.

Hi Mal,

I actually found " The holy blood ant the Holy Grail" very difficult to understand. Are you by any chance a teacher?

Scozza, Thank you for your post. It would seem there is a plethora of intelligent people within this forum.
Everyday is a learning day.



Thanks Tom.
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   Old Thread  #169 10 May 2020 at 12.11pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi Dean,
I think Aidey has pretty much covered the ISIS thing. It's worth pointing out as part of a wider picture and ties in with scozzas comment on the mujahadeen - the Americans basically were playing with fire and encouraged the whole wahabbi jihad thing through saudi to fight the Russians and it's since morphed.
regards Syria in particular, no doubt the west was involved in the original uprisings and support of the 'good rebels'.
the whole gas attack thing was very iffy and I recall a few reports of isis members accidentally firing on the idf and then apologising and also isis fighters being treated by the idf.
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   Old Thread  #168 10 May 2020 at 12.03pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi Ken,
haven't heard of Mark I don't think, I am aware that the music industry is awash with illuminati/occult symbolism, whether this is in fact a bit of an inside joke or something more sinister I'm not sure, but it's undoubtedly there.
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   Old Thread  #167 10 May 2020 at 12.00pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Itís interesting stuff for sure

The Americans started it all during the Afghan and Russian war. They were pumping millions and millions into Pakistan who were funding the Mujahideen (plural form of mujahid, the Arabic term for one engaged in jihad) for them. Later events and in summary it all back fired and bit them in the arse so to speak. Few good books on the subject

Read a few books on the Russian special forces (Spetsnaz) and the Afghan war, brilliant stores, unbelievable brutality, Mujahideen used to skin them alive if caught, Russians used to drag them around behind tanks or one of the techniques to get them to talk was to line them up with the tank tracks and if they didnít talk they would run over them, slowly up their body length, next...

Rule number 1, never trust the Yanks

The Iran one has to be just around the corner for sure

Turkey, proper melting pot, epicentre of the next world war? (religion)

Then they will be looking at dealing with our Chinese friends for sure, possibly as they are now, commercial war?
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   Old Thread  #166 10 May 2020 at 11.55am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
If a person says something is a conspiracy theory even if they believe it or not then that person is conspiring in that conspiracy theory.

One conspiracy theorist I do like to listen to on various podcasts is Mark Devlin, he talks about conspiracies in the music business and films.
He is very knowledgeable and great at explaining his theories.
He has written some good books too.
Find a podcast with him on, Worth a listen.
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   Old Thread  #165 10 May 2020 at 11.54am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Barack Obama, now there's a fraud, born in Kenya but suddenly he has a fake birth certificate saying he was born in Hawaii so he can run for president of the USA funded by the Clintons and their phoney charities that bully woman who dare say anything against the bill nonce clinton
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   Old Thread  #164 10 May 2020 at 11.46am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi Dean,

The US created it via the power vacuum it created by de-stabilising the middle east and funding militias which then evolved into ISIS. There is no doubt about that! As for mercenaries, there is without doubt plenty of paid mercenaries engaging in a proxy war. It was blatant in Ukraine, with a few incidents of Americans being filmed in combat and some even filming their own deaths at the hands of russian proxies.

What a effed up world we live in eh?

Oh, that's another thing, modern warfare will be fought with mouse and keyboards...much easier to create panic with no electricity or oil than guns and bombs...

This country almost melted due to a lack of bog rolls for god sake
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   Old Thread  #163 10 May 2020 at 11.42am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi Tom, I think many conspiracies in the future will spawn from social media and tech which has been created to make our lives easier, whilst at the same time eroding our privacy.

A wider conspiracy? I believe many Governments are sitting back safe in the knowledge that the more mind numbing tech they pump out, the more control they have over us as we literally plug ourselves into our consoles and phone apps for a risk free dopamine hit.
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   Old Thread  #162 10 May 2020 at 11.37am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hey Aidey

yeah some very interesting points. I'd also say maybe not all conspiracy theories.

The facebook thing is tragically very true. Not just teenage girls sadly. A huge problem in schools.
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   Old Thread  #161 10 May 2020 at 11.13am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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WoW........Thats some list you have there, with some very interesting points raised.

May i ask for yours or anyone elses views on ISIS. Rumour has it that this group was/is formed by the USA, Israel and the UK from mercenaries ?

Have you noticed that Terrorism has vanished? Perhaps they have also heeded the current lock down

Have a great day.
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   Old Thread  #160 10 May 2020 at 11.12am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi Aidey, there's a number of things you mentioned there that are or likely will happen, and a number I wouldn't even class as conspiracies or theories, however would you class any as elements of a wider conspiracy theory?
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   Old Thread  #159 10 May 2020 at 10.17am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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There are PLENTY of things I believe to be squiffy, 9/11 isn't one of them. The US, even up to the past 7 days, is up to no good. Venezuela will be popping up in years to come, especially now they made a 'Bay of Pigs' attempt at toppling their Government which has been brushed under the carpet.

What else then eh? I ain't into Area 51/911 style of conspiracies, there are too many everyday products and events that I believe will occur/ have occurred and will be spoken about in years to come...

- China's social credit system will be here in some form eventually. The NHS (pre covid) releasing a statement refusing to treat those who are deemed as racist is just the start. Social Media will be heavily scrutinised, with offenders not being able to buy a car or get routine treatment on bunions because of something they said about David Lammy on twitter.

- Alexa and Ring Cameras will be used as surveillance as it'll be far easier and risk free to hack a modem than get a physical human being to monitor targets

- Autonomous vehicles will be tracked and hacked and made to plough into brick walls to get rid of targets.

- The US will eventually force an uprising in Iran, funding an ever increasing western influenced youth into taking up arms and creating a civil war.

- Society will look back on Facebook and Instagram as the biggest contributor to the lack of social cohesion. The suicide rate in teenage girls is at it's highest ever rate, and I believe it's all down to other vicious teenage girls using it as a new means of bullying.

- Turkey is deliberately releasing ISIS fighters and pushing them into Europe to de-stabilise the region. In turn, I believe Greece are then encouraging their current migrant population to push further into Europe by land sea or air into Europe by turning a blind eye to the document fraud.


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   Old Thread  #158 9 May 2020 at 10.11pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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yep
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   Old Thread  #157 9 May 2020 at 8.31pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Annoyed now

Watched an engineering documentary on this and read a few papers since. I cannot remember what they said the root cause was. The steelwork was coated in a heat resistant foam. This is one of the main reasons for the structural failure and the cross sectional area design and placement of the beams. Sure the foam coating could have been at fault

Edit. I remember. I think the aluminium from the aircraft fuselage reacted with something and caused explosions, Iíll rephrase that, the reaction caused extreme heat and implosions

Another edit on reflection. Bowling for Columbine was another one of his, the shooting at the school and gun laws, the reality was terrible really

You have to question American life and ethics

Just look at Carol Baskin
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