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   Old Thread  #291 27 Jun 2020 at 9.22pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Take that as a yes then......explains a lot......

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   Old Thread  #290 27 Jun 2020 at 9.21pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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That's for you to find out 00Wayne
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   Old Thread  #289 27 Jun 2020 at 9.19am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Spanky, you on drugs too.......
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   Old Thread  #288 26 Jun 2020 at 7.41am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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There is nooooooooo escaping the logic of Wayne , just a sniff and its all over , your exposed , i can't understand why he has been overlooked by our secret services , maybe he hasn't , 00Wayne , licence to be gullible !
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   Old Thread  #287 25 Jun 2020 at 2.45pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You on Drugs Tom......
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   Old Thread  #286 25 Jun 2020 at 9.29am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I can see it in front of my eyes Wayne.

It was really 5g causing covid deaths, but then you rumbled that so they had to have thousands of deaths in countries with no 5g network.
Russia and Korea were in on the conspiracy and had hardly any deaths, then that was rumbled so they had to start having lots of people die.
We weren't going to be allowed closer than 2m together to help control us and aid cctv identification, but then that plot was rumbled so it's changed to 1m.
Then most importantly bill Gates and his compulsory vaccine/chip plan was uncovered so that was pulled.
thank you conspiracy theorists for foiling every plan and saving us all.
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   Old Thread  #285 23 Jun 2020 at 6.12pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #284 23 Jun 2020 at 6.09pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You sound like a man with a garage full of hydroxychloroquine that you bought for a quid each in March.
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   Old Thread  #283 23 Jun 2020 at 6.00pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No idea...........Came on here to find out as we have so many Covid experts, political experts and lots of others fields of expertise within 3 threads..........
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   Old Thread  #282 23 Jun 2020 at 5.58pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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C'mon Wayne .. what's going on?
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   Old Thread  #280 23 Jun 2020 at 5.57pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Jon it's obvious what's happened, they've had to pull the plug on that plan because Wayne and his ilk uncovered what was really going on exposing the bill Gates vaccine and saving us all from the NWO!

Its happening in front of your eyes but if you ignore it then so be it........
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   Old Thread  #279 23 Jun 2020 at 5.53pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The fact that they boast of having members all around the globe tells you all you need to know about them.
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   Old Thread  #278 23 Jun 2020 at 5.03pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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not quite as good as parklife, but still very good
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   Old Thread  #277 23 Jun 2020 at 4.09pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The Coke bottle is on the moon to show it is the real thing, obvs.
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   Old Thread  #276 23 Jun 2020 at 3.06pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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'By comparison, putting a man on the moon's not exactly rocket science.'



Pepsi must really hate Coke - they even got to the fake moon first!
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   Old Thread  #275 23 Jun 2020 at 1.30pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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So the well-oiled machine that is the US government, which couldn't cover up Clinton getting a blow job with 2 people in the room 30 years later, was able to keep cameramen, set designers, directors, technicians, lighting engineers, sound engineers, editors, hauliers, etc etc etc sworn to secrecy for decades (but they missed a Coke bottle). Riiiiight.

By comparison, putting a man on the moon's not exactly rocket science.
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   Old Thread  #274 23 Jun 2020 at 10.32am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Did man really land on the moon, considering 69 was a year when the van allen belt was at its hottest, and would frazzle anything entering it apparently.
Recently a nasa rep was asked how long would it take to put a man on the moon again, the reply was something like 15 years, yet in 69 it took just a few years since JFK announced they would do it before the decade was over, all operated by computers that had less memory of an early mobile phone.

Was it a distraction from the cold war, or a distraction from the vietnam mess or both.
Many australians claim it was staged in the outback and apparently a few who saw the early transmissions which started from australiaí noticed a coke bottle stick out of the moon which later transmissions didnít show.

I spent half my life thinking the landings were real, the rest of my life i just canít see it actually happened.
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   Old Thread  #273 22 Jun 2020 at 11.44am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #272 22 Jun 2020 at 11.42am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I wonder if we will ever be told the truth?
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   Old Thread  #271 22 Jun 2020 at 11.40am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Jon it's obvious what's happened, they've had to pull the plug on that plan because Wayne and his ilk uncovered what was really going on exposing the bill Gates vaccine and saving us all from the NWO!
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   Old Thread  #270 22 Jun 2020 at 11.35am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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If it escaped by accident from the lab in Wuhan, then I dare say they've already reviewed their biosecurity protocols to stop it happening again.

If it was the wet market, as widely reported, then they need to review what they allow to go on in these places from at least a public health point of view, if not for the sake of the poor bloody animals. I heard a journalist saying she and her small daughter spent ages wondering what the strange creatures in a cage were ... until they asked and were told they were rabbits that had been skinned alive. It's difficult to pretend to be on moral high ground as someone who sticks hooks into fish for fun, but even so.....
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   Old Thread  #269 22 Jun 2020 at 11.16am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Glad to see thinks are getting back to normal, I'm not a conspiracy theorist but I would like to know exactly how this virus came about. I don't believe it was deliberately circulated, maybe an accident or maybe it just 'happened' but we need to know so we are better prepared and if vaccines are safe and can help I have no problem with that.
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   Old Thread  #268 22 Jun 2020 at 11.10am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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That's just what they want you to think Jon....

The truth is much scarier and being hidden in secret 5G transmissions that only those who know the special handshake can hear...
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   Old Thread  #267 22 Jun 2020 at 10.50am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Apparently itís as common as paracetamol according to my other half whos a midwife. Not sure itís used daily but Women in labour its common to give them it.
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   Old Thread  #266 22 Jun 2020 at 10.47am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I don't know how often it's used, but yes, it's been around for decades.
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   Old Thread  #265 22 Jun 2020 at 10.37am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Is this the steroid thatís been used for decades in healthcare all over the world which the British government have claimed they have been the ďfirst to discover?Ē That ones thatís given as standard in hospitals, similar to the use of paracetamol?
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   Old Thread  #264 22 Jun 2020 at 10.29am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
So things are starting to open up across Europe. People are going out. People are having meals in restaurants, and drinks in bars. People are going to work, some kids are going to school.

Without the 'compulsory vaccine' making millions for big pharma and Bill Gates.

Without compulsory apps which follow your every move - although they are available and optional in the countries bright enough to implement them.

With the best proven treatment costing a fiver and readily available worldwide.

What happened to all the conspiracies behind the virus? What ******** are those clever enough to 'see beyond the MSM and find the truth' peddling now?
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   Old Thread  #263 20 Jun 2020 at 9.16pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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if you mean my ex wife ....

the very best of luck to you!

(i wouldn't wish her even on wayne!)
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   Old Thread  #262 20 Jun 2020 at 9.07pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I try my best Malcom

Has your wife seen me
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   Old Thread  #261 20 Jun 2020 at 8.46pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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no no....

it was lots of people saying that you are a huge cock....

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   Old Thread  #260 20 Jun 2020 at 8.00pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Somebody started a rumour that I had a 10 inch cock

It was me
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   Old Thread  #259 20 Jun 2020 at 12.04pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
A lot of evidence , carefully omitted by the government's account of the Salisbury poisoning , which would render their version of events at best implausible and at worst impossible !

link .




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   Old Thread  #258 3 Jun 2020 at 0.29am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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would that be the same 'truth' you posted on here about George Floyd being armed?



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   Old Thread  #257 2 Jun 2020 at 5.47pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You mean you can't handle the truth..

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   Old Thread  #256 1 Jun 2020 at 9.51pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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my circle of friends has always been a mix white, black and Indian. Because itís a diverse area. I feel we were all treated equally... like ****
To be fair we were all dodgy ****s from a dump, so they were right to.
I think all the comparisons of our policeís handling of minorities to the US is ridiculous, yes a lot of kids (Of all races) get stopped and searched round here but thereís also a lot of them walking/driving/riding around with knives, guns, weed and class A. Make those easy arrests and the policing figures look good, though it may just save the life of somebodyís son or daughter; on the flip side one silly mistake has left many a young person unemployable for the rest of the life they have left when they get out of jail. Catch 22
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   Old Thread  #255 1 Jun 2020 at 9.25pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It was a mess beforehand. I admit I was drunk so was probably a bit more loud than normal. The aggression was well before I even started though. They thought my brother was a criminal so treated him like one. Even after they knew he wasnít.

It all depends on where you are and when. Not everyone will get them double standard treatment of course. The problem exists, just because it isnít everyone doesnít mean it doesnít. This is a point I made to a well educated friend earlier. He said ďnot all police are bad though, same as anglers not all of the poach and kill fish, not all football fans fight and cause havocĒ my response was ďit doesnít mean it isnít an issue though does it. A minority of anglers poach and we do our best to stop it, not all football fans are hooligans but we arrest and prosecute the ones that are, yet where is the same drive from authority to stamp out the rotten apples in the positions of power?Ē He didnít have an answer to it. If it happens to the 1%, itís 1% too many.
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   Old Thread  #254 1 Jun 2020 at 9.05pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I started laughing at them and asked for badge numbers
And people wonder why they get in a mess


I dread to think what a black person would have been subject to
I've asked the black people at work how they get on and they don't seem to have too much problem but then again they are sensible level headed chaps
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   Old Thread  #253 1 Jun 2020 at 8.15pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Of course - customs officers use profiling too.
Profiling is like professional gambling - it's a numbers game, the bean counters do the stats and the guys on the ground use them to fill the quotas, making best use of the budget.
Everything is run like a streamlined max-profit business now.
The investment is in systems not people, so the drones just blindly follow the system, path of least resistance.

My only saving grace on that day was an older cop who knew on instinct straight away I wasn't the droid they were looking for and made sure I was OK. (longest 12 hours of my life!)
Proper cop, I'm sure there's a lot of them out there, but like medical staff, teachers all sorts, they're so tied up in following ever- changing systems they never get the time or training to properly be what they are paid to be.
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   Old Thread  #252 1 Jun 2020 at 7.59pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You appear to miss the obvious when comparing UK policing to US policing. The UK has always worked on the Peelian principals of policing, police by consent. The US policing policy is very much more aggressive by design. Every confrontation must be "won" to show that they are the biggest baddest gang in town and they run it. Many factors have made the US police into what they are today. Punishment of law enforcement in the US is normally weak as the "gang" looks after its own. Situations like this will continue to happen because it's the normal behavior of many US police forces.
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   Old Thread  #251 1 Jun 2020 at 7.53pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Keebs - you may be able to identify with my experiences when I was younger

I was regularly stopped on my way home from gigs when I was in my late teens / early 20's. If we'd been playing in driving distance of home, I'd usually do that rather than stay over. Stopped so many times and breathalysed. Asked on numerous occasions about drug use and was there any illegal substance in my car. One officer levelled with me and said 'to be fair, with your long hair, you look the type'. Suspicion by appearance...

dial that up by about a million and we are still not getting close to what happens to young black men every day here and in way more serious events in the US with gun happy cops...

Here's something to think about - if George Floyd's murder hadn't been caught on camera, do you think we'd have even heard about it, or would the man that killed him still be on the lookout for his next target?

Only one person's life was at risk in that arrest.
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" These officers got excited they were about to get a collar and couldnít let their buzz go once they were wrong about it"

I've been in the same position in the frame for rape and murder! - it ain't fun when you can see that regardless of the truth it could still go either way - and I'm white!

Bad apples on both sides blur the lines.
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   Old Thread  #249 1 Jun 2020 at 7.39pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Nice to see someone favours "innocent until proven guilty" over "no smoke without fire"
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   Old Thread  #248 1 Jun 2020 at 7.33pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yeah and itís right. Had he not allegedly broken the law he wouldnít have died. But it was the suspicion of the shop owner that caused it all. No one has yet confirmed if the $20 was fake or not. Itís still being referred to as an Ďalleged fake billí everywhere. How many times have you seen videos of whoíre people calling the police on black people because of a suspicion. Look at the father and son who killed that guy because they thought he was a thief. What about the lady in the park when the black guy asked her to control her dog, I bet he feared for his life when she did. They both happened in the last month. All over our media. You canít have missed them. Not every person that has the police confront them has committed a crime.

Take the time my brother was looking for cigarette filters in his glovebox, whilst sitting the passenger side of his car, it was 11:30pm and we were about to leave to head in to town. Police pull him over on suspicion of breaking in (fair enough) however after establishing it was his own vehicle they went on to accuse him of about to drink drive. Keys in his pocket and sitting in passenger side I started laughing at them and asked for badge numbers and got threatened with arrest for some random public order offence. We tried to leave but they tried to stop us. They were very aggressive and physical the entire time, considering my brother is the most placid person known to man, a drunk me probably didnít help cracking up over their stupidity.
I dread to think what a black person would have been subject to. These officers got excited they were about to get a collar and couldnít let their buzz go once they were wrong about it. My brother didnít get the full stop and search or car search but I bet a black person would have done.
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Agree. If you watch a lot of the American police documentaries they deal with guns all the times and lots of officer have been shot. There are questions about how with was dealt with, without doubt. I do not believe kneeling on someoneís neck is standard protocol. They tend to make them lay down, crawl onto they so they are close to their body and they cannot pull a gun on them. Itís a sad state of affairs but of your life depends on it, then needs are a must
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mostly law abiding
Well I do sometimes do 33 in 30mph area and I have taken pens and paper from work

I can understand the innocent being stopped and harassed for their colour bit but even though it was low crime over a fake $20 note this man broke the law and the police were called.
We all agree what has happened after was tragic and unnecessary but had he not broke the law the police would have not been called.
I hope that comes across the way it's intended.
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not at all. I've said all along the drastic response to it was borne out of the West's provocative response to when it appeared in China, all we got from our side of the world was slating then and slagging them off whilst arrogantly believing it somehow wouldnt get here. When it did they couldnt then tell us that it isn't a hysterics inducing issue could they.

My county has a 0.19% infection rate, 0.06% death rate. Now why should we be that worried?
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CV is certainly not the scariest viral scenario on the planet
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funnily enough I havent been on twitter for over a year, but I heard about the anonymous stuff leaks and hacking and logged on because facebook seemingly ignored it was all happening. (just seen your edit...plays in to that well doesnt it)

I was very deep in a hole looking at all this stuff, i was there when the DC blackout stuff came up, which was discredited after a few hours. Funnily enough the active anonymous account did an experiment with a tweet asking for it not to be retweeted or commented on or anything. 5,000 retweets later it was clear bots were all over any tweet it was posting.

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As would I mate - but automatically being suspected of wrongdoing doesn't happen to us on a daily basis I guess.

We can't understand all of it. But - as I tell my students - we CAN understand injustice and unfairness, and we CAN support people's right to stand against both - and we CAN stand with them.



'mostly law abiding' ...?
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Nothing personal mate honest - just highlighting how readily people generally just pass this stuff on with no thought at all.

If you (anyone) are on Facebook, Twitter etc you are being manipulated constantly (ďNotĒ at least got that right) by so many agendas - all targeted especially for you.
That has always gone on throughout history but my god how f-ing easy has Zuckerbergs box made it.
One big (spending majority?) basket of eggs.

Youíll have got that tweet because somewhere along the line youíll have shown yourself as someone who would pass it on. Whoever originated it knew it was false so why? Because it suits someoneís agenda for disinformation to fudge the truth. Once the lawyers are involved all bets are off, 2 huge agendas there. There will be others too.

The truth isnít suppressed any more because it will always out in the end
At one point the most powerful man in the world couldnít even keep a cheeky BJ quiet, with only 2 people in the room!

The truth now is just part of an elaborate 3-card-trick - get it out there early on but surround it with enough contradicting, polarising but plausible conspiratorial options and even when itís obvious, a big enough percentage will not believe it anyway. Job done.


Of course no-one wants to believe their opinions are not entirely theirs and get uppity when you call them out to save face(book)

EDIT
I refuse to believe that Zuckerberg has any control over Facebook whatsoever - he's a figurehead now.
There's a conspiracy theory for you
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I guess it depends on the interactions you have with police. I had a number of black friends from a rough area when I was teenager. Part and parcel of their life was being stopped and searched and treated guilty until proven innocent, even when crimes were not being committed and they werenít criminals themselves. They just lived in that area. Iíve had plenty of negative interactions with the police and Iím not evidently of foreign heritage until you know my name.

I think all criminals know the risks of committing a crime, but letís put it in to perspective. If you were caught speeding and pulled over, would you expect to be treated to a physical encounter with the police, car searched, checked over for faults, questioned about all manner of things OR would you expect to be issued a fine and let on your way? If you verbally refused to enter the police car would you expect to be thrown on the ground and handcuffed? OR would you expect to be dealt with by the roadside (remember it isnít compulsory to even leave your own car, let alone enter a police vehicle unless you have been arrested).

Police brutality and power hungry actions arenít limited to race, itís anyone they want to inflict it on for whatever reason. Iíve been involved in incidents myself where power hungry police c*nts have reared their fat heads.
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As you say being white I've never experienced it so I had a discussion about this with my 28 year old white daughter and she said some things that you refer to and I've tried to take them on board but as I'm mostly law abiding I understand that anyone and that means anyone that breaks the law has to accept there will be consequences.
If I got caught doing something wrong I would hold my hands up and go quietly.

Important note. That's not to say that the consequences this man suffered were in anyway justified.

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I was deep in a hole on twitter at 1am keeping up to speed with the anonymous leaks. Donít make me travel through thousands of tweets to find it.

If itís wrong then itís wrong. Iím just saying what I heard from a Minneapolis official (btw sheís black) stating it. A quick google

It only fuelled a theory that it there may have been history between the two. This is a conspiracy thread after all.
Fact remains a man was unlawfully killed by a police officer. Not sure why the focal point of it is that they worked together for a year or 17?
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No - you've assumed that was the only thing I read and used it to discredit the source rather than the information. A common tactic these days.
I read dozens, all saying the same thing.
I even posted "reading around"

Find me one report, anywhere that says anything other than the below.
Better still post your audio clip - contradicting every quote from Maya Santamaria.

Chauvin 17 years, Floyd about a year overlap.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/chauvin-floyd-club-employment/

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Unless youíve been oppressed and racially subdued youíll never know what itís like. Even witnessing it will wake you up if you donít get it, especially from over here away from their situation. The British institutionalised racism is very deep rooted still however it seems like itís overly suppressed to low key incite the hatred, itís also deflected on to immigrants. The 80s wasnít that long ago when being black was almost a taboo thing. I wasnít even alive then and I know what it was like back then as itís so well documented.

A speaker in America did an effective test. She asked a room of white people to stand up if theyíd be happy to be treated like black people are. No one stood up. The conclusion? They know there is an issue but the chose to ignore it.
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Just goes to show, youíve read that from a MSM in the UK that hasnít reported on any of the police brutality thatís occurring or the evidence of police causing damage to their own vehicles and to shops to then blame on protestors.
I heard the 17yrs working together, as in in the same building at the same time, from an American source, an official in the city of Minneapolis who had spoken to the owner of said restaurant. Her voice clip is on the internet to be found.

Youíve 2 minute googled and decided the daily mails second hand information is categorically correct without delving in to actual American news sources.
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It really is disturbing and tragic.

When you say that you can't see how being black has anything to do with it, I think that's probably because firstly, you yourself would never target a black man (or at least my knowledge of you on here absolutely suggests that) and secondly, like many / most / maybe all of us on here (who knows?) you aren't black. I know I'm not the only one who feels incredibly strongly about this issue, but I'm the first to admit that I can't even begin to understand the generations old anger that black Americans must feel on a daily basis.

Unfortunately, being a black man has everything to do with it in a society where racial oppression is the norm for so many.

Peace and love man.

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Very disturbing.
Itís natural I would do it myself but the bystanders didnít help, the more they heckle and say get off the more the police donít want to move as they think by keeping the status quo they have the situation under control.
Thatís not making excuses for the police as their training shouldíve told them different but in those moments it didnít happen.
I canít see how being black had anything to do with it though.
A tragedy that the USA donít need sat the moment
Very sad that a fake bank note incident can cause this.


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Where are you seeing 10 years?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8368305/George-Floyd-cop-knelt-neck-worked-security-Minneapolis-club.html

Reading around it seems the cop worked outside and Floyd inside.

Bit of a difference to worked together for 10 years

2 mins Google why do people post this SH1T????
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I agree, they do make these claims, but as I said, in this country medical treatment comes first due to the oath taken to preserve life by all emergency services, in this country that man legally would have had to have had restraint loosened and an ambulance called. I believe that to be the same in America. When he complained repeatedly, they should have called let him up and called an ambulance, he clearly wasn't resisting arrest or a danger, if they knew they were being filmed do you think they would have ignored his pleas?

Oddly enough, it is now coming to light from a restaurant owner that Floyd and Chauvin worked together for over ten years in a security job at the restaurant. Is it deeper than it first appears, was it a grudge?
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Yes.

I do.

And I didn't learn it from some crackpot theory on Netflix

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmzzPiNv3KE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMGUAHBFmjk

Edit add...

A doc's perspective...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egRf84EqaJI

And this eerily plausible insight from the comments below it.

"Itís also been reported Floyd complained he couldnít breathe before he even went down. The knee didnít help obviously. But now we gotta wonder, with the autopsy, was Floyd having a heart attack before he even went down? Prosecutors are second guessing if they can make the charges stick because of that possibility. Chauvin gets exonerated ..... need I say more?"
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It is murder because as soon as he said he can't breathe
Problem is people while being arrested often make unjustified claims tragically, on this occasion this wasn't the case.
I do agree though too much force was used which is kinda obvious as the poor man died.

Where can i see the full video?
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What pregnant woman? Potentially???

He might "Potentially" have cured cancer too - but he died under a cops knee instead.

The only "facts" so far are he was sat in a car SUSPECTED of passing a SUSPECTED counterfeit bill.

Maybe you too have fallen to fakebook targeted emotional blackmail - share first - fact-check never.
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all because he used an alleged fake $20 bill. Why did it take 8 minutes to handcuff him and restrain him? The full video is available for all to see. The police officer has been charged with murder. The sympathise view on it is that it was a sad result in the use of excessive force...but that justifies the use of excessive force, acknowledges it was uncalled for and not okay to be doing what he did, kneeling on his neck for 8 minutes. It is murder because as soon as he said he can't breathe, it means if its true he would die, and knowingly continuing to prevent him from breathing means it is intentional. In this country if you claim you have a medical issue during an arrest you are taken to hospital to be checked over because it is within the job role of all emergency services to preserve life first and foremost.

If you think it's okay what happened to that man then you are part of the problem to put it bluntly. I suggest watching the full video before making any conclusions.
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Human nature, we have to look for blame. If he had not committed and offence it would not have happened in the first place, I understand it was petty but that is not the point.

I think we all watch the news. This kind of thing has been going on and off in the states for years, BLM and then a riot. The trouble is at the moment with unemployment, Covid 19 and the rest there are a lot of angry people about wanting to vent their frustrations. It is a matter oft time before there is an explosion of more anger and violence
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You could call it murder but to me that would be he intended to end his life.
Obviously I wasn't there but my guess was that man assisted arrest, was grappled to the floor and a foot placed on his neck. The man shouted he couldn't breath but people being arrested often claim things like that you only have to watch our own Police, Camera Action type of programmes to know that. The big unfortunate difference in this case he wasn't lying and tragically he died. The 2 other coppers couldn't have realised the severity of the situation as I don't believe they would have actually stood there and allow the man to die in front of them
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Here's a recent story from the Independent about how it works:

Facebook article

ďOur algorithms exploit the human brainís attraction to divisiveness,Ē a 2018 presentation warned, warning that if action was not taken Facebook would provide users ďmore and more divisive content in an effort to gain user attention & increase time on the platform.Ē

Worth a read.
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No, you said that, I didn't.

I quote you:

I'm just saying your theory that Russia is the route cause behind every social, economical, political problem in the world is clearly not right.

A guy got murdered by an american police officer whilst 2 others did nothing about it, but that's because Russia hacked social media


A guy was restrained (with extreme force, which was excessive and ended up being fatal), because he would have potentially murdered a pregnant woman.

What i'm saying is that people are being herded and getting disturbed emotionally by small groups of state funded 'hactivists', using things like FB, Twitter etc, because it's so easy to do.

Yesterday on my FB feed was a picture of a car being clamped that apparently belonged to an NHS nurse. Now all the comments were emotional, distressing, hateful etc (amplified by CV19). Turned out the picture was over a year old, but the comments didn't stop. Those people would have been left off kilter emotionally, which they would vent somehow (as that's how us emotionally charge humans work), to upset others around them or had a very crap day themselves.

And this is how it works.
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I'm just saying your theory that Russia is the route cause behind every social, economical, political problem in the world is clearly not right.

A guy got murdered by an american police officer whilst 2 others did nothing about it, but that's because Russia hacked social media?
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Sorry, you lost me at 'slavery'? Maybe it was too far for the black African slave masters to sell their 'wares'?

There's a netflix documentary about Facebook and Cambridge Analylitica, if you don't believe you should watch it. It's so very easy to create a 'group' and an algorithm to get traction even when it's fiction. It's called The Great Hack. They cover BLM and it's origins.

Understanding how algo's/AI/databases work is integral though to understanding how they do stuff like this, and working with Russian ex-hackers helps! :/

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Youíre deep in a hole of Russian destroying the world. I donít think the Russians did the whole slavery and oppression thing... black lives matter is a response to black people dying due to police using excessive force.

I really donít think you know much about American history or ideologies to understand what youíre saying makes not a jot of sense.
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"I think there's plenty of examples of White on Black violence throughout U.S. history to explain that social breakdown. The russkies didn't create that... no need for them to."

You don't know what you are talking about when it comes to BLM.

Seriously you don't.
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Has anyone seen the anonymous leaks on twitter tonight? Trump a rapist and in the ring with Epstein, same as bill gates and Naomi Campbell. Diana murdered by royal family. Hacked Minneapolis police station and leaked all their details and passwords, hacked Chicago police radio and played F the police...

Also reports of the KKK becoming active again in parts of America.... civil war anyone?
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hmmm....

'For example, "Black Lives Matter" was created by a few Russians (on FB) to create White v Black violence and social breakdown.'

I think there's plenty of examples of White on Black violence throughout U.S. history to explain that social breakdown. The russkies didn't create that... no need for them to.

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The Russian 'job' was using companies like Cambridge Analytica, which they scraped loads of Facebook data. Chris Wylie (the bloke with the red hair), was a bit of an attention seeker, he tried to SELL the FB scraped data to EVERY political group, and no-one bought the data or used it. That's a fact, regardless of what the media say's. He then made his money by 'whistle blowing'.

Cambridge Analytica only had data that the users of FB had technically agreed to share, CA abused it by trying to monetize it.

The video I've posted is just to show that the Russians have used many techniques to break the social fabric of the USA, UK, Europe etc.

There's so many things they have done and are doing, and it wont stop until you see current generation British started to hate their own country and themselves as people. That's ultimately Russia's aim. what happens in America end's up happening here.

For example, "Black Lives Matter" was created by a few Russians (on FB) to create White v Black violence and social breakdown. Their is/was no actual leader or HQ for BLM. However, the social media platforms lit up with hundreds of thousands of fake FB/Twitter profiles to create an argument.

The Russian's 'troll' FB/Twitter etc, creating one line arguments, which get's inevitably get's a response and creates FUD (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt). This is how they are doing it, right now, today. The video told us this 40 years ago.
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Excellent ......
Thank you for sharing that.
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Hey Not, remember those videos floating around at election time but only saw the short one. Anyway you've just reminded me - did Boris ever publish that Russian interference report? I expect it will be forgotten about now and won't see the light of day!
...and if you've been down the rabbit hole you should know the roots of a lot of stuff mentioned in the thread lead back to the UK and Israel, and that 'they' have no real allegiance to any nation state ☺
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Right...

As someone who 'went down the rabbit hole' a few years ago, for a few years, spent hundreds of wasted hours watching and reading stuff (it's actually quite depressive to do this), I came to the conclusion that "Sh*t happens and there's nothing you can do about it"

Notice that ALL the things mentioned in this thread are AMERICAN.

I came across this video made in the 1980's which just explained it all. It's so very true, and it's genuine. Everything this bloke says (he's dead now...obviously, 1993) is now happening, even young Americans hate (they have been tricked) their own country, it's a social breakdown which is exactly what the Russians wanted, like pushing a punt out onto the water and then let the drift take it on it's path.

If you have a spare hour, and are into theories, I urge you to watch this....

Short - Yuri Bezmenov

Full - Yuri Bezmenov

Answers a lot of questions. Ideological Subversion.
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No I'm not really a reader, but my english teacher Mr Derby loved Mark Twain so he was always on about him and his quotes and variants of these 2 have stuck with me since i was 16 so that's 41 years ago.


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Have you come across the story of Emperor Norton? Mark Twain based one of his characters on him I think
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Another Mark Twain quote

Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please.

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Hey fishie

I was bored tbh and posted with tongue firmly in cheek.

If we can't have fun on a conspiracy thread then there's something wrong in the world...



... hang on .... is that another conspiracy?

Mark Twain! thankyou for that - most useful bit of info I've read on here yet

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I thought you were better than this

First link they have stopped using the graph, what's the conspiracy are they hiding it behind page 13

Second link the headline and article state tests have disappeared but a government spokesman says a technical issue on providing postcode analysis. If the article had revisited the missing tests and showed they were still missing now there's a conspiracy in the making but they don't

And its Mark Twain with the statistics quote
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I think this might now be the right place for these kind of things...

https://metro.co.uk/2020/05/13/keir-starmer-accuses-boris-cover-ditching-international-death-comparisons-12698049/?ico=pushly-notifcation-small&utm_source=pushly

and

https://metro.co.uk/2020/05/13/thousands-coronavirus-test-results-disappear-12695923/


I think a wise man once said 'there's lies, damn lies and statistics'

can't imagine there's a conspiracy to downplay numbers is there?
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You started me off watching all those others, def food for thought, if you look in the description there are links to the pages of the contributors, Sonia Poultons look interesting.
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Thank you audiguypaul

Mind blowing and reinforcing what i have seen elsewhere, but none the less shocking.

Thank you for the link.
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yeah looked into a bit of that after epsteins 'suicide' goodness knows who mossad could be blackmailing leveraging footage that he got for them!
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Ghishlaine Maxwell is the untouchable , she , like her Father has her burial plot reserved on Mount of olives for services rendered , to the cause , the colossal mountain of sh*t on the worlds elite that she procured for mossad keeps the majority of governments "in line " with their zionist ideology !
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   Old Thread  #201 11 May 2020 at 10.51pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi_x090LGO8
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Trilateral commission anyone ? the Manchester arena bomber was a asset gone wrong , used to fight Assad , allowed to come and go freely , got radicalized in Libya came back and Blew up the MEN !
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lots of videos at the time of relatives calling their loved ones saying they were ready to have a go.
nothing after that thou so who knows really, not me!
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How about the FBI Agent at the scene who on camera said "The biggest thing for me is that that there were no bodies"

That recording can no longer be found.

Really strange happenings on that day.
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I thought it crashed but that cheney had given the green light for it to be shot down?
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those Mossad guys play by their own rules, not people to be crossed, pretty sure on one of their hits it transpired they had travelled on fake British passports!
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Flight 93 I think
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not shot yet LOL

wouldnt trust anything the media broadcasts really.

anyway back to 911 as that seems to be the en-vogue topic.
what about the 4 th plane that the passengers allegedly overpowered the terrorists and then was shot down by usaf, cannot think of the flight number
517 was it ?
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Really
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Only a couple and they are probably in body bags by now, long time ago so shouldnt get me shot !!Maybe
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You know a few then Mart?
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I bet they do know a thing or 3!
and they dont bother about the no smoking on site rule in the UK, just wander down to a loading bay and chill out
few years ago thou, maybe they tow the line now however i doubt it
and i doubt there is anything not worthing knowing in their library
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Read a bit about Mossad too, wouldnít want to mess with those boys, they do get plenty of practice, Krav Maga practitioners, nasty stuff, thereís some great videos about, how they car snatch etc.

Got to be one of the top agencyís in the world

I bet they do know a thing or 3!
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sometimes it goes ti*s up and you end up with blowback like the MEN arena bombing
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May i ask for yours or anyone elses views on ISIS. Rumour has it that this group was/is formed by the USA, Israel and the UK from mercenaries ?

Just back to this thread and reading thru.

wasnt isis born out the mujahedin out of Afganistan when the USA ( CIA Cough Cough) funded them against the russians.

If you want to know what is occuring mossad are the boys.
Their moto is
"Know what your enemy are doing before they do" roughly translated
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   Old Thread  #186 11 May 2020 at 3.35pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I was being deadly serious about the memory Mal. And there is, but no more than 150 yards (imperial) a gert great Tower, Mast, weapon of mass destruction, Just up the road from my house. So there just could be some truth in that Mal. Not sure if they have gone live or been put on Full fry power yet, but the poor memory function is almost like a dose of Statins. Does anyone else get that or is it just me?

Wrong Thread?

Sorry in advance
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   Old Thread  #185 11 May 2020 at 3.29pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
here's one to think about...

Boris and Carrie announce the pregnancy and expectation of a Summer birth (early June was suggested as the due date)

However, baby Johnson arrives much earlier with little seeming concern about the premature birth. Could it be that he lied about the actual conception date as the true timeline would put things back to when he was supposedly caring for his ill ex-wife?

Not that he would ever be deceitful or seek to mislead the british public of course...

It's not as grand as 9/11 but a theory is a theory regardless....



Goes without saying that I hope the little guy is well and happy.
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9/11 this is a good watch

https://youtu.be/ylY0Ycv_8u0
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   Old Thread  #183 11 May 2020 at 10.39am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Unsolved Mysteries... Like 'where does your lap go when you stand up?' (thankyou Big Yin)
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Just watched this very well put together short video about the mysterious disappearance of Flight 370, plenty of conspiracy theories etc around this one, although maybe we need to start another thread 'Unsolved Mysteries'

The Vanishing of Flight 370

That channel's got some good stuff on it actually
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You can both **** off
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   Old Thread  #179 10 May 2020 at 3.02pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hey Dean

...'Or maybe someone whispered it to me via pm? My memory is terrible.'...

memory issue is probably down to a 5G mast nearby...

and whispering about me on PM's - is this a new conspiracy?

Regarding the book - there were a few documentaries made about it all - some on BBC2 prior to publication, and then some more after that investigate the claims made. Tony Robinson did one for Channel 4 after the Da Vinci Code became a big hit. More accessible than the book if it's piqued your interest.
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very overdue , and this article is 13 years old

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Event 201......say no more!
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gota love those "join the dot's books"
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and your crayons too eh Scozza
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I like to read Dean, certain subjects other than carpfishing interest me too. Often take a book with me

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Thereís one Saudi. Amazing how they can cause all those atrocities in Yemen and the USA does not blink an eyelid, us Brits too and the rest of the world, wonder why that is

Doesnít seem to get the coverage does it!
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   Old Thread  #172 10 May 2020 at 1.48pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi Mal

Quote....And yeah I am - was it my tweed jacket with courdroy elbow patches that gave me away?

Actually it was your" especially in schools "comment to Ken when referring to facebook. Or maybe someone whispered it to me via pm? My memory is terrible.
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hiya Dean

It's a bit dense at first but once all the threads start to come together it's ace. (IMHO) On first read there were some parts I had to go back over but that's no bad thing when there's a bit of detail.

And yeah I am - was it my tweed jacket with courdroy elbow patches that gave me away?




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Hi Aidey Kaye

What a fcuked up world indeed.

Hi ken,

Thank you for the Mark Devlin Recco. I will have a listen.

Hi Mal,

I actually found " The holy blood ant the Holy Grail" very difficult to understand. Are you by any chance a teacher?

Scozza, Thank you for your post. It would seem there is a plethora of intelligent people within this forum.
Everyday is a learning day.



Thanks Tom.
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Hi Dean,
I think Aidey has pretty much covered the ISIS thing. It's worth pointing out as part of a wider picture and ties in with scozzas comment on the mujahadeen - the Americans basically were playing with fire and encouraged the whole wahabbi jihad thing through saudi to fight the Russians and it's since morphed.
regards Syria in particular, no doubt the west was involved in the original uprisings and support of the 'good rebels'.
the whole gas attack thing was very iffy and I recall a few reports of isis members accidentally firing on the idf and then apologising and also isis fighters being treated by the idf.
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Hi Ken,
haven't heard of Mark I don't think, I am aware that the music industry is awash with illuminati/occult symbolism, whether this is in fact a bit of an inside joke or something more sinister I'm not sure, but it's undoubtedly there.
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Itís interesting stuff for sure

The Americans started it all during the Afghan and Russian war. They were pumping millions and millions into Pakistan who were funding the Mujahideen (plural form of mujahid, the Arabic term for one engaged in jihad) for them. Later events and in summary it all back fired and bit them in the arse so to speak. Few good books on the subject

Read a few books on the Russian special forces (Spetsnaz) and the Afghan war, brilliant stores, unbelievable brutality, Mujahideen used to skin them alive if caught, Russians used to drag them around behind tanks or one of the techniques to get them to talk was to line them up with the tank tracks and if they didnít talk they would run over them, slowly up their body length, next...

Rule number 1, never trust the Yanks

The Iran one has to be just around the corner for sure

Turkey, proper melting pot, epicentre of the next world war? (religion)

Then they will be looking at dealing with our Chinese friends for sure, possibly as they are now, commercial war?
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If a person says something is a conspiracy theory even if they believe it or not then that person is conspiring in that conspiracy theory.

One conspiracy theorist I do like to listen to on various podcasts is Mark Devlin, he talks about conspiracies in the music business and films.
He is very knowledgeable and great at explaining his theories.
He has written some good books too.
Find a podcast with him on, Worth a listen.
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Barack Obama, now there's a fraud, born in Kenya but suddenly he has a fake birth certificate saying he was born in Hawaii so he can run for president of the USA funded by the Clintons and their phoney charities that bully woman who dare say anything against the bill nonce clinton
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Hi Dean,

The US created it via the power vacuum it created by de-stabilising the middle east and funding militias which then evolved into ISIS. There is no doubt about that! As for mercenaries, there is without doubt plenty of paid mercenaries engaging in a proxy war. It was blatant in Ukraine, with a few incidents of Americans being filmed in combat and some even filming their own deaths at the hands of russian proxies.

What a effed up world we live in eh?

Oh, that's another thing, modern warfare will be fought with mouse and keyboards...much easier to create panic with no electricity or oil than guns and bombs...

This country almost melted due to a lack of bog rolls for god sake
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Hi Tom, I think many conspiracies in the future will spawn from social media and tech which has been created to make our lives easier, whilst at the same time eroding our privacy.

A wider conspiracy? I believe many Governments are sitting back safe in the knowledge that the more mind numbing tech they pump out, the more control they have over us as we literally plug ourselves into our consoles and phone apps for a risk free dopamine hit.
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Hey Aidey

yeah some very interesting points. I'd also say maybe not all conspiracy theories.

The facebook thing is tragically very true. Not just teenage girls sadly. A huge problem in schools.
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WoW........Thats some list you have there, with some very interesting points raised.

May i ask for yours or anyone elses views on ISIS. Rumour has it that this group was/is formed by the USA, Israel and the UK from mercenaries ?

Have you noticed that Terrorism has vanished? Perhaps they have also heeded the current lock down

Have a great day.
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Hi Aidey, there's a number of things you mentioned there that are or likely will happen, and a number I wouldn't even class as conspiracies or theories, however would you class any as elements of a wider conspiracy theory?
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There are PLENTY of things I believe to be squiffy, 9/11 isn't one of them. The US, even up to the past 7 days, is up to no good. Venezuela will be popping up in years to come, especially now they made a 'Bay of Pigs' attempt at toppling their Government which has been brushed under the carpet.

What else then eh? I ain't into Area 51/911 style of conspiracies, there are too many everyday products and events that I believe will occur/ have occurred and will be spoken about in years to come...

- China's social credit system will be here in some form eventually. The NHS (pre covid) releasing a statement refusing to treat those who are deemed as racist is just the start. Social Media will be heavily scrutinised, with offenders not being able to buy a car or get routine treatment on bunions because of something they said about David Lammy on twitter.

- Alexa and Ring Cameras will be used as surveillance as it'll be far easier and risk free to hack a modem than get a physical human being to monitor targets

- Autonomous vehicles will be tracked and hacked and made to plough into brick walls to get rid of targets.

- The US will eventually force an uprising in Iran, funding an ever increasing western influenced youth into taking up arms and creating a civil war.

- Society will look back on Facebook and Instagram as the biggest contributor to the lack of social cohesion. The suicide rate in teenage girls is at it's highest ever rate, and I believe it's all down to other vicious teenage girls using it as a new means of bullying.

- Turkey is deliberately releasing ISIS fighters and pushing them into Europe to de-stabilise the region. In turn, I believe Greece are then encouraging their current migrant population to push further into Europe by land sea or air into Europe by turning a blind eye to the document fraud.


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yep
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Annoyed now

Watched an engineering documentary on this and read a few papers since. I cannot remember what they said the root cause was. The steelwork was coated in a heat resistant foam. This is one of the main reasons for the structural failure and the cross sectional area design and placement of the beams. Sure the foam coating could have been at fault

Edit. I remember. I think the aluminium from the aircraft fuselage reacted with something and caused explosions, Iíll rephrase that, the reaction caused extreme heat and implosions

Another edit on reflection. Bowling for Columbine was another one of his, the shooting at the school and gun laws, the reality was terrible really

You have to question American life and ethics

Just look at Carol Baskin
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   Old Thread  #156 9 May 2020 at 8.06pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I'm assuming everybody has watched the Michael Moore film 'Farenheit 911'
Trailer
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there seems to be a fair few that believe David Icke, Alex Jones etc are controlled opposition/disinformation agents to distract people and make any plausible theory discredited by association...
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Yeah the good old double bluff.. or something like that 🤔
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The 'dancing Israelis' is an interesting one and answers needed over them being allowed to hop skip it back to Israel.
looking into some of the redacted 28 pages it seems certain that religious factions within the Saudi government helped finance a number of the terrorists, as did, although possibly indirectly one of the top ambassadors to the US if I remember rightly who was friends with Bush.
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The terrorists were useful idiots , there is no way that it was not known by the CIA that this was going to happen , if Israel knew via the mossad agents caught red handed filming the planes hitting the trade centers then so did the CIA and nearly all of the terrorists were Saudi nationals , so why attack Saddam , the middle east wars were planned way before 911 , same as usual , follow the money , safest place in Iraq , the oil fields !

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If anybody wants to blow their mind read the earth Chronicles. The twelfth planet. That should blow your mind

Thereís a box set to go at

I started reading some of the original Sumerian scripts, painful, far too time consuming, i gave up
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I'm sure I remember watching / reading something about the USAF scrambling fighters but sending them out to sea in the wrong direction...?

watched some video that analyses the film footage of the second plane and says the wing passes in front of a building that it should be behind also...

but what if the conspiracy video makers are conspiring?
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Always keep your eyes open when a huge story dominates , that's when the dirt goes unnoticed

America are having a sulk at the Saudis for not slowing oil production and are withdrawing some and maybe all military support , i don't think that will last as they will be sitting ducks without America and the UK propping up their despot regime and they can't allow the Iranian backed Shia militias to gain any more ground in these areas , Israel (who you should always keep an eye on ) will be getting a little bit twitchy and might have to exert their influence over Trump , we don't want them to get the "nukes " out !

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Another couple of things to add to the 911 conspiracy; two planes flying well off there flight path, and not one reaction by the us Air Force? Also surely the air space around the pentagon would of been better protected.

Has anyone heard of Beverly eckert? Her husband was killed in one of the towers. She refused any compensation for his death and campaigned for a full investigation.
6 days after meeting Barack Obama her plane crashed and she died..
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Sorry wrong thread.

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Hi Dean, whilst I agree with some of your assessment of the pharmaceutical industry, I put that down to the ills (I find myself accidentally coming out with puns again) of capitalism rather than any grandiose conspiracy. regards charities, I have pondered what these guys do all day and whether they think they better not actually find a cure or they will all be out of a job! I note you brought up fluoridation again, lots of countries don't do it and in the UK for example some authorities do some don't, there is lots of evidence of its benefit for oral health, if it was a conspiracy I would expect it's use to be more widespread for a start.
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Thank you Mal

In light of your enthusiasm, i will be ordering said book this evening.

Many Thanks for your suggestion.
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It's a fascinating read isn't it?

It was the start of me buying a whole load of books that I read while touring about similar stuff. The Templars, The Dead Sea Scrolls, some of the Egyptian / Pyramids stuff.

I've bought that book as a gift for maybe a dozen friends who have all loved it


Dean - I'm sorry for your losses fella.
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Hi Chuffy

Thank you for that link. I was all set to watch it when i caught the BBC (British Bull5hite Company) lettering. But it will be this evenings watch, so thanks again.

Mal, I have just had one of my closest fishing buddies Terry Tracey die from pancreatic cancer less than a week ago, my cousin a few months before that and a good friend of ours is just going through chemo . That does not change my views that chemo is a money making scam for the big pharma's with a % success rate that is very very low. I also think cancer charities are multi billion dollar scam drawing on the desperation of the working class. Let me tell you for why, they could never cure cancer or at least bring it out to the general population as for one, they would make it so expensive that only a few would be able to afford it. Also with the ratio of cancer sufferers ever increasing, we would be over run and over populated. They want us weak, they do not want a healthy society as it does not bring in Billions of revenue. Flouridation and dumbing us down sees to that. Chem trails, vaccines and GM foods and brain numbing meds. Soon to be a walking army of brain dead zombies.

Ken.......Great post
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Why they brought it down is another matter but I remember seeing that collapse live on the TV when it happened and my reaction then was....."NO ****ING WAY " and it still is, looks like every controlled demolition I've ever seen footage of
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Hi chuffy, I watched a few things on the engineers for truth and various criticism of the Nist report, as I say I'm not an engineer so I'm just taking these people's word for it, true or not the nist report seems plausible enough to me and I see no logical reason for having to bring down building 7.
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Other reports have found the NIST report to be wrong in it's conclusions though, THIS is worth a quick read and there is a witness video there as well with footage of the actual collapse



@Mal ' The Holy Blood and The Holy Grail' now you're talking
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Hi Ken, I must admit I'm not a structural engineer or demolition expert but I would hazard a guess that building 7 differed substantially to both the empire state and grenfellin design. The Nist report doesn't seem unbelievable to me, and as they say there's a first time for everything and it appears lessons since learnt in building design. Again as I have said to both Dean and Wayne, if it was a conspiracy, what was the need to bring down building 7? Cia secret info on the 25th floor doesn't hold up to reasoning, nor does insurance? so why?
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Hey Dean

I'd argue that terming people 'sheep / sheeple' (the inference that they follow a herd and don't think for themselves) is mocking / insulting given the context.
And the 'flu kills more people' statement (which is true so far in total numbers but not as a percentage of those infected as I'm sure you're aware) - it is insensitive. If someone you knew was to die from C-19 would you downplay their death to their loved ones by telling them that 'flu kills more people'? Of course not.

but - as you say, we've digressed.

back to theories eh?

Have you come across the book i mentioned?' The Holy Blood and The Holy Grail'. The longest running conspiracy in the world... maybe. It's definitely worth a read and I think you might like it.

And do check out the web link I posted re: organ donation. It's a positive move rather than some machiavellian plot.
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I read that the CCTV footage in that link is not actual video but the security camera took still frames taken at 1FPS and then put together to flow as a video, so the theory being I assume that the plane hit in between frames and that's why you don't see it but that's still ******** surely as you'd see something on one frame at least, frames removed maybe??
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So Building 7 again.

Here was a 47-story building that was hit by no airplane yet nonetheless collapsed .
The ďofficialĒ version says the building was brought down by the buckling of key structural columns weakened by fires that started after the building was hit by debris during the collapse of the North Tower.

This steel framed structure 47 stories high and with a footprint one third more than that of the twin towers totally collapsed in under 7 seconds.

Not one single steel framed building has ever totally collapsed before that day or indeed since that day.
I take you back to my point of the Empire State Building being hit by a heavy bomber and a huge fire took hold for a long time and that buildings structure remained intact.
Then the Grenfell fire, we all remember that and how awful it was. The building still remained after.

Something is very strange about the collapse of those buildings that day and none more so than Building 7.
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Why do you feel i am being insulting or disrespectful because i highlight the mere fact that the flu kills more people and that in my opinion does not warrant worldwide lockdown and the complete crash of a world economy?

Masks are a double edged sword and can do more harm than good. They may help prevent others from what you have, but it is proven that by continually inhaling carbon dioxide your immunity lowers even further. Add that to the alcohol based hand sanitisers, the keeping people indoors, the lack of sunshine and vitamin D, then you have the perfect human specimen to contract any disease due to government guidelined so called safety measures. Please do not under estimate my intelligence and dont over inflate my intention. I am NOT mocking anyone and i am NOT suggesting that Covid-19 is a myth. I am quite simply airing my own views with regard to immune systems becoming weaker due to people being in lockdown and not being exposed to the 'normal' every day viruses and bacteria and add to the that everyone disinfecting 'everything'. This every day exposure it what enables us humans to develop strong immunity and i fear there will be a lot more illness when everyone eventually emerges. I, like you am entiltled to my opinion, and my views and opinions merely suggest a more open mind may benefit a lot of people in the long run.

Anyway, i digress, this is not the thread this belongs to, my fault entirely for bringing it up.

Back to conspiracy.
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Hi Wayne, ok so if we check some of the statements according to this site it was standard for insurance policies to cover terrorism on any kind of building cover, it wasn't an add on https://www.iii.org/article/background-on-terrorism-risk-and-insurance

plus doing my own 'research' it seems that despite the insurance payout he actually still lost about 140 million so I don't really see it holding weight (excuse the pun) that he was in on any conspiracy.

regarding the gas station footage I will do some digging, if you could give me a link about its existence that would be appreciated but if there was such footage I wouldn't be that surprised if it was lost in human error over the years. If you suggest it shows a missile, again we need to ask why, why go through the bother of an extra fake attack on the Pentagon? also there were multiple witnesses who saw a plane.
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Hi Deany

So , please guide me with your logic as to why every country in the world would want to "crash " their economies , a conspiracy on this scale has never been seen before , although you will probably know a few !
so , what you got ! WHY ?

new never been seen before footage , or with the garage video , easily found footage that's overlooked to suite an agenda !






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   Old Thread  #131 9 May 2020 at 2.24pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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All in you opinion Mal.......

The fact your sensitivity to anything is low means them responses are normal.......
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   Old Thread  #130 9 May 2020 at 2.20pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'm biting my internet tongue a bit tbh Dean...

Let me put it like this...

Mocking people for wearing masks / staying indoors etc in an attempt to keep themselves / others safe doesn't cover you in glory or endear yourself to anyone (apart from those who might post similarly insensitive comments). We're all well aware that flu kills many people, but using that as a way to undermine / diminish the seriousness of this virus is at best pointless, and mostly - as said - insensitive and insulting.

C-19 is killing people and it's making people - many of whom have had flu and so can draw real comparisons - very ill. It's not a 'scam'.

Cancer kills less people than flu too - are you going to take the p out of people who lose their hair due to treatment?

You have control over your choices in terms of what you write - it's up to you to choose to be better or not.

And skip dippers don't sleep!

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Hi Mal

Well some little scrote was sifting through the skip at 3am this morning and found something valuable to him/her/it?

Don't these people sleep?

In response to it is not the flu virus, thank god for that as going by the figures, correct or incorrect the flu would have killed many more worldwide. Imagine the panic of the world then?

It is getting that bad i find myself singing "Bah bah Black sheep,sorry, whatever coulour or genda you choose to be sheep, have you any masks?" Just to get off to sleep.

Spanky, what revelations exactly are you waiting for? Nobody promised New, never before seen footage or startling script that proves these events right or wrong? This is merely another thread started at the request of those jabbering on about ppe and face masks. Wayne did just that. Did you catch Wayne?
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Itís Got to better than talking about Masks for the 10th day in row spanky!

I donít trust any fact checking sites Tom......their goverment puppets......

That link is the pentagon security check point, there is a gas station directly under the flight path of the plane, FBI agents were in the gas station within minutes demanding the CCTV footage be handed over, surprisingly this footage was never ever seen and was lost like lots of other evidence!!
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Well , i was actually looking forward to sifting my way through some compelling evidence and am waiting for the "good stuff" that surely will be coming shortly !
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Hi Wayne, please see the link in my post 121 in response to Dean over the insurance...
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Insurance money at a guess Tom......the fact Larry said ďpull itĒ in his interview then back peddles in my mind is fairly telling!

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Morning Dean

did the research for you - as said, nothing sinister here...

https://www.organdonation.nhs.uk/helping-you-to-decide/about-organ-donation/faq/what-is-the-opt-out-system/

How's the skip coming? anything good in there yet?

You are right about us all having lazy tendencies, but I like to practice what I teach and get into researching things that interest me. One of the positives of lockdown is the time and opportunity to do it.

BTW - the virus isn't the flu. As you'd know if you did some research...
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You went fishing? I'm a bit envious Wayne!

Do you mean this video from the gas station?https://youtu.be/0SL2PzzOiF8

I actually watched a couple of videos from engineer's for truth and other such groups in response to the nist report on tower 7, there are seemingly plenty still up on YouTube. I do admit the near free fall collapse is questionable however is still see no logic in the requirement to bring the building down.
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I'm sure there must be a website that has this info that has been deleted from youtube over the years .

Rather jealous regarding the fishing , my carp tackle is 900 miles , i'm hooked on River carp though and have been for years now
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Morning Dean,
regarding the insurance it doesn't sound overly suspect to me reading this: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/wtc-terrorism-insurance/

The fall of the cabal videos pissed me off tbh, if such a cabal exists there is no chance Trump is not a part of it when you analyse a number of his actions ( recognition of Golan heights as israeli territory and genie energy a prime example) The tactic of using such conspiracy theories to gain support is exactly the same tactics as IS and other such terrorist groups use, it's dangerous stuff. Also it takes away from the truth of a number of issues raised which are actually valid, and loses them credibility.
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Not abducted Spanky, went fishing and just got back! You will be please to know I managed a low 30 and 2 doubles......

Seems like the majority of WTC 7 documentaries have been removed from YT over the years so hard to get any decent ones to view, incidentally a lot of these were from experts too but obviously not the right ones who agreed with the 911 report!

Anyone know what happened to the CCTV tapes from the fuel garage opposite the pentagon???
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Morning Tom,Mal and all

Not vanished, just have a life, albeit a restricted one now.

Free range chickens can roam more freely than we can ATM. The Towers and it would appear building 7 held documents that were very sensitive. Not sure why any would need to be demolished if i am totally honest with you Tom so i totally get your point of question. However, people have been made aware that a very short time before the demo, building 7 specifically was insured to a rediculous amount, which could be another reason that was flattened.

Mal, good morning. Organ donation is a great thing in my eyes. I have my own signed card in my wallet although i think a New law has past or is in the process that we all must donate our organs on our demise. Will have to look into that after breakfast. The fall of the cabal videos in her defence, she does state not to take her word for it and do YOUR OWN research, yet so many of us, myself included, are habitually lazy sods that want it on a plate in this everything at your finger tip world we now live in. I will be back soon. There is a world outside of this forum you may not be aware of,albeit a rather fooked up one full of bleating sheeple being told to stay in because of a flu virus.

BTW Scozza, great post earlier.

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Has the mother ship abducted Wayne and Dean from fear of exposure or have the CIA extracted them from " the bunker" and are now holding them in an "illegal rendition " as their secrets were being exposed by the minute ,or are they transfixed in front of a tv making sense of the subliminal messages from the last "simpsons " episode , lets prey for Wayne and Dean !
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Sounds like you were all pissed last night just talking bollox
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bit of conspiracy theory inspired music from my favorite band

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxGQ5qdW6mU

thought it would be nice to share
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Not familiar with Lagavulin so googled it.
I'm always a bit wary of whisky since way back when I was on a school journey and it made me sick through my nose so it's not top of my list. Shame that as I think I'm probably missing out
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just uncorked the Lagavulin , buoyant that French rivers , or at least where my barn is are open , in the Lot
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Looks like you why don't you **** off

That is a joke BTW if you haven't followed my last few posts


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guess who's back
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We'll either be proud or embarrassed but who cares we can always get up early and edit our posts
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Me and you tinhead

Pished and posting til the wee small hours....

Whether it makes sense or not eh?
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Does seem a bit quiet lately. One moment you can't keep them quiet and now they've gone missing. Maybe they've all gone to bed early?
Still I'm still awake, I'm level headed, not self important or delusional but I may be a little bit pissed but I'm here for you

That smiley is me awarding it to myself
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Don't worry Harold is here with me and we are both watching Micky Flanagan on channel 11 I'll just pass you over to him...Ö..


Hi everyone
Thanks for thinking about me but there's no need to worry I'm having a great time at Bob's house during lockdown. He's even allowed me a couple of JD's what a great chap he is.
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And the conspiracy theorists' silence is deafening....

Mulder and scully must be spinning in their tv graves....
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Guilty, deffo
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This bloke has an opinion on Carol Baskin, he makes it really well in two mins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o2VdRtrxjM

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Now thatís a classic

Finished watching that last night. Now thatís a conspiracy theory and set up if ever people have seen one. You have to love Americans, ****ing crackers
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Guys, what do think happened to Carole Baskins old man ?
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Cheers Tom. Saved me a few hours watching it tonight
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Rule number 1. Never believe everything you hear or should is say read. You need the facts

Iíve read quite a bit on psychology because it fascinates me. Your map is not the territory lol

If you start to look at media, the resource where we get our information from it is completely biased to our or your countries Believes conditioning

Watch the TV on a daily basis and the evening news will start with doom and gloom because thatís what we want to hear. Occasionally there might be a bit of positive inspiration and it sticks out like a sore thumb, watch out for it

And then itís soap time, the worlds, doom and gloom and bull****

Life can be viewed as **** if you want it to be (itís how you make it) and they like to portray this, nobody is really interested in positives, they want to know that their lives are not as bad as others

Hence media is set up to portray this.

What would happen if we were told nice storyís all the time and everything was amazing

To summarise, conspiracies are rife, itís life, there will be some serious goings on behind the scens!!!

We know what we NEED to know and thatís what gets published...

Donít get me going on religion, people need to believe, how would you control the masses
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No itís not

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OK so admittedly I skipped to 5 and then 9 &10 as it's a narrative I've heard time and time again, just this time instead of christ or Allah being the saviour it seems it's trump, and his clumsy ways are in fact messages to his Q Anon followers, that's some funny sh#t
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Wait until you get to the lovely casual racisms of number 3....

This is where so much of what might be a good point of discussion for conspiracy theory immediately falls down. The 'sources' are so appalling. As I say, if there is better out there then point me to it because this stuff just makes dismissal the only option.

It's like having an adulterous, lying buffoon as the spokesman for your country.

Oh.... hang on.....
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I now feel your pain Mal having watched just the first two videos, this womans presenting style is awful, I guess it's aimed at dumb Americans.
The first video, pretty much everything she stated as having not been reported has in fact been well reported. The second video, there are plenty of studies that show the benefits of flouride to dental health.
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The truth is out there .
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Sorry I was being bombarded with bullsh*t and misheard.

Still the same question though. It's hardly Nazi is it? And what's her issue with it?

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She doesnít say itís compulsory though Mal. She says you have to say no to it.
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The thing I find strange with the building 7 thing is it was a 47-story office tower that fell at freefall speed because of a fire, that's unprecedented before or since. We all remember the Grenfell tragedy and that building is still standing, well it was when I went past last year.

And the Empire State Building B-25 crash in 1945 in which a B-25 Mitchell bomber, piloted in thick fog over New York City crashed into the Empire State Building and that's still standing and there was a huge fire after that one, a much bigger fire than building seven, after all it was a B-25.
There's photos of this on the net

I find the whole building 7 thing really strange indeed and I don't know what really happened but I do not believe the official story simply for how fast it fell into its own footprint because of a fire.
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I'm tempted to tell you to go back and read my posts as research...

I challenged a few of the things from the videos - the church stuff and the fact that some of her statements are just incorrect, but my actual question was about organ donation.

In video 1 (i think) she says about it being a compulsory thing now and then likens that to Hitler and the Nazis without any expanding on it at all - my point was that we now have a system here where our organs can be taken after our death unless you choose to opt out which is a (in simple terms) reversal of what we had where you had to 'opt in' to the donation system.

I think it's a positive given that for so many years people missed out on life saving transplants when thousands of potentially valuable organs simply 'went to waste' (for want of a better term).

I know that some have their own objections to it on different grounds and that is fine as they can say 'no thankyou'. A million miles away from the atrocities of the Nazis....

So - I asked what is your stand on it? Positive / negative / fascism / humanitarian?

Edit - hope the skipping is going well - let me know when it's full and I'll send the lads round to see if there's anything worth taking...
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Hi Dean, apologies, sometimes due to a combination of posting from phone and forum functionality it can be a challenge posting in a concise and understandable manner.

So if we start with the premise that the US wanted to garner public opinion in support of war, why do the buildings, including 7, need to be brought down by controlled demolition? surely the planes hitting them would be enough to gain the required outrage from the public? It seems illogical to me that they would need to bring them down? not to mention it makes the whole conspiracy more likely to be uncovered with the extra complexity and people involved?
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Ha ha I've been tempted to mention those two words but don't want to over use them. But I think that a lot of these conspiracy theories are based upon it.
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I read it as confirmation bias. Watching the same sources repeatedly rather than the content. Happy to be corrected if that isnít what he meant.
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Sorry Mal, i do have a bad habit of that. Apologies.

What was your question again please?
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Sorry Tom.

I assume you are reffering to the Thermite? Haven't a bloody clue if i am honest, it is just what i read whilst looking into it. The fact that the planes hit the towers has what bearing on events? Sorry, i have an 8 yard skip im trying to fill and using this as a catch my breath excuse. Apologies.

We are all aware that this was a plot to win over the American public and to justify a war on terror. Blame an Islamic group and go take revenge. They bought it hook, line and sinker and if i am honest, so did a majority of the rest of the world. The weapons of mass destruction of course were never found so Saddam and his regime copped it, just as the Libyans did for daring to shun or denounce the American dollar.
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There was once this guy who said that if you make a bait that contains all a carp's nutritional requirements then they would become so used to it that they would regard it as food.... AS IF...
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a very fair point I think Tom

I'm still hoping for some response to questions too - other than suggesting I watch a different video

Come on Dean - let's have a proper discussion. Dismissing anyone who doesn't immediately accept what you endorse / suggest we look at by saying it's because our brains can't cope is hardly open minded.

We're stuck in the house so it's all a welcome distraction
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if Wayne is confident in his convictions he would be happy to share his view, at the moment he hasn't really provided anything of substance which is a shame. I will always happily state my views and discuss with people in a friendly and open minded manner.
Please elaborate on what you find amusing, please also if you would be so kind as to address my previous questions to you.
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if you fancy something a little more in depth ...

One of my favourite books is called 'The Holy Blood and The Holy Grail' (and it's follow up The Messianic Legacy). It looks at the theory of a bloodline from Jesus and gets into European history, the Templar Knights, the 'United States of Europe' and much more. It was used as a big influence by Dan Brown for the Da Vinci Code book.

It's not perfect and aspect of it have been debunked, but it's a cracking read
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Oh Tom. You are funny.

Reading your posts you seem to be quite an intelligent chap, yet your baiting statements to Wayne and your retorts to solely garner a bite are, to say the least, amusing .
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How do you know if someone believes conspiracy theories?

Give it about a minute, they're bound to tell you all about it....
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I don't necessarily agree with Dean but that's a little unfair to cherry pick two parts and add them together.
I read it as he watches loads of stuff from start to finish not the same thing over and over again.
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University Study Finds Fire Did Not Cause 3rd Tower's Collapse on 9/11
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Regarding the collapse of the towers , maybe an explanation as to the source of the explosions , make your own mind up , mine is still open as there are way to many unanswered questions

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Im certainly quite open to there having been degrees of involvement and fore knowledge by elements within the US and other states, most likely Saudi and Israeli.
As far as how it played out though, I think it was pretty much as per the official story, hijacked planes hitting towers, towers fell...no need to complicate with controlled demolition...
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You have to admit though , when you analyze the available evidence , things don't add up , with regard to the 911 bombings , the building that wasn't hit , the recent selling of the buildings and massive insurance valuation just prior to 911 arouses suspicion , the "dancing Israeli's " some who were Mossad agents , filming the planes hitting and "high fiving " themselves in joy ! later arrested and held for days whilst trying to leave the city in a van , so , mossad had prior knowledge of the attack ?

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my eyes showed me visible fires from windows of at least 2 floors and smoke billowing from windows of multiple floors.
again can you explain the logic behind the whole building having to be brought down by controlled demolition?
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Official report says 10 floors, your eyes showed you 1 floor........
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hiya dean - it's not hard to get my head around. it's just a lot of what I already said.

I'll try the other suggestion - maybe not today as I'm watching Project Blue Book (which i think you might enjoy - USAF covering up UFO stuff. It's good fun)

on the idea of things coming out in time, I'm a big fan of a German playwright and director called Bertolt Brecht. He moved to the US to try and crack Hollywood and was under surveillance from the FBI for 13 years. there was a 50 year (i think) shelf life on the files being classified and then they had to be released, so out of interest I got a copy. pages of the most boring stuff I've ever seen....
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I watched this a while ago. The only bit I struggled to come to terms with was the lack of evidence or research into the whole point. The "do your own research" message is cobbler's. How's that possible without me believing someone I don't know and have no idea of their agenda?
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Rumour has it that Tommy Robinson is part of the new world order and was tasked by the late Jimmy Saville with creating an anti-Islam smoke screen.
Donít even get me started on the fake death of Tupac who was a trained explosives expert and last seen entering an air duct of the WTC holding a stick of dynamite and a box of swan vestas
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Quite frankly Mal The " she can go fcuk off" was my reaction too when i got the end and if i am brutally honest just a short way in. Now, i am not for one moment asking you to believe everything within those films, merely open your mind to the possibility that some of which she has told you could possibly be true. Christ, if you think what you have seen is hard to get your head around then. type in "Pizza Gate". That will really make your dung go tizzy.

I believe if we were to be told the truth, none of us would be able to process it all. It would all be too much for us to handle.

However, from child trafficking, to satanic worship, to Adrenochrome from young children ( now that really is a shocking subject).All this and more is being undertaken by presidents, royals, government officials and Hollywoods finest. and members of the vatican.

Type in Out of shadows and watch this. A more realistic and better produced documentary form 2 of Hollywoods finest stunt men. A shocking revelation yet very much an eye opener into this sadistic world. You will struggle to come to terms or even believe what you are being told, but from countless other accounts, i am now a firm believer that this is going on. Tom Hanks and more vehemently Mel Gibson along with a couple of young stars have come out to tell people what is happening.Please Watch it and please give me your thoughts.
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Hi Wayne, forgive me if I'm being stupid but I don't see how people seeing a burning building that's on fire thinking it may collapse and then it collapsing, as being evidence of a controlled demolition?
also fires were on 10 floors not just one, and why did they need to collapse it, if the fires were on the floors with all the cia secret stuff then surely that was enough to hide any evidence, even if they put the fires out the building would be condemned and brought down anyway?
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which you have confirmed yourself how it was misreported in human error

I dont think i did Tom, The fact building 7 was not touched by a plane, had a fire on 1 floor only which incidentally was the floor for the CIA and SS yet collapses raises so many questions. The original report into 911 says the building was damaged by a plane which weakend the structure and thats why it collapsed.

The BBC reported it because it came from their reporter on the ground, yes it could have been misinterepted but the fact the SS were telling everyone to go because of the pending collapse and then the fact it collapsed like a controlled demo from the centre to fall into itself stinks of a cover up!
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Hey Wayne, I'm a very open minded guy and will apply my own logic to things, question my own thoughts and those of others, my mind is certainly not set.
in the corona thread you suggested anyone who doesn't believe 9/11 was an inside job is a moron, as I've said I'm genuinely interested in what you believe the real story to be? you mentioned tower 7 and pentagon but the only vaguely supporting evidence you gave was a bbc misreport, which you have confirmed yourself how it was misreported in human error.
Again I am open to there being elements of an inside job on 9/11
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Wayne, you seem to be getting a bit of a hard time my friend

Dean, Nothing i cant handle. People dismiss things far to easily because there mind is set and its easier to discredit things without attempting to join the dots and simply going with the general narrative were fed!

Each to their own though.......
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Hi Dean, haven't watched your videos as yet but will give them a go when I get chance.
Just a quick question on the twin towers if I may?
why the need for the thermite? were planes hitting the towers not enough? did 'they' think planes hitting the towers wouldn't be enough to get the public on side if they didn't fall?

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morning Dean

I did point out already some of the things that I was taking issue with but you've not responded yet - hopefully you will as I do love a discussion.

It's nothing to do with your misconception that my brain has been programmed to not see 'the truth'. The 3 videos I watched were full of inaccuracies, manipulative use of stock imagery and a long list of unsubstantiated statements.

if you have something better for me to look at then I'll give it a go as I'm not someone who dismisses all suggestion of government lies - Weapons of Mass destruction anyone?

but that particular set just don't cut it. It might be enough for some, but really enquiring minds need more.

Have a good day and stay safe

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repetitive loop conditioning

I myself have sat through countless hours from start to finish



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Oh Gosh Mal,

you surprise me. Actually, i am not surprised because most people like yourself as i explained earlier will only sit through what their brains perceive as near to the truth (as they see it) or how their brains have been programmed by the media and other channels through repetitive loop conditioning. To see what is out there I myself have sat through countless hours from start to finish, as,imo, that is the ONLY way to get the full picture and spectrum of what potentially is going on and the reasoning behind the narrative.

I see many of you asking to be shown valid clips and links to support theories. Do your own homework. It is out there for you all to read, watch and base your own opinions.However remember, you need an open mind for this which is obvious most of you are struggleing with. Tell me Mal, out of the 3 parts that you say you have watched, what are you mostly struggling with?

As for those steel beams in the Twin towers bending or weakening under the heat from aviation fuel, That is probably the biggest crock of twaddle i have heard on this patticular subject. Those towers and many many more which were constructed years before were designed to withstand vast stresses from impact and heat. Do you know the temperature needed to even distort steel beams the thickness of those cores within the towers? Then take the heat generated by aviation fuel and how long that takes to burn off and you may think hard about upping your medication for making such a statement. I apologise for being so hard, but in the history of fires on American high rises, find me one that has collapsed form ANY FIRE. The fact that a plane went into each has absolutely no bearing on the results. Also when a building of that size falls from impact, the inertia from said impact will cause it to fall that way. Have a look at the construction videos of those twin towers and the core strength built into them.The impact of those planes were equivalent of a fly hitting your windscreen at 90mph.

Now, the trouble with most of these threads is, the absolute 5hite people spout without even attaempting to do their own research and those that have half a brain answer questions with questions like a politition to divert the attention back onto that person. We are taught that in sales training and very effective it is too.

Wayne, you seem to be getting a bit of a hard time my friend. I see those that are unable to give constructive debate or input any meaningful contribution have hopped over from the cv thread after telling you to start your own thread. Must be getting as bored as i was reading about fricking face masks, which, when worn for any length of time lowers the wearers immunity by trapping carbon dioxide, thus reducing your bodies ability to fight any viral obligate pathogens.
As i said before gents. Make your reasons better than your excuses and please do your homework.

There is a saying by Mark Twain which goes " It is easier to fool people, than to convince them they have been fooled"

Have a good day Gents.
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ok Dean - turned number 3 off because frankly - she can just f*ck off

sorry fella but if that's your best source of information then you need to look harder - and in places where it's not just a load of bullsh*t statements with no attempt to back them up at all

peace and love man

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Donít try get me involved in your two Bob argument or Iíll send the men in black round👽
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CIA and Hollywood , it's been well documented
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Read quite a bit mate, fascinates me tbh
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some of the cia stuff is interesting, involvement in drugs, coups and insurgent groups...and JFK
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2-D vs 5G?

Dean - I'm partway through number 2 but finding myself saying 'oh f*ck off' at my laptop - quite a lot - and given that everything I say is recorded am I going to get into trouble?



It's not how I expected my evening to go when I woke up this morning tbh....
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What about the flat-earthers? Are they viewed by other conspiracy believers as a bit odd?
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Didnt that happen? was in the Sunday Sport

Same as Elvis spotted in a chip oil

A few classics?

Bomber?

made me laugh

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A Lancaster bomber landed on the moon in perfect shape. NASA would've pissed it.
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I love stuff about the CIA, probably all true, probably reading this because they got a mention

I would love to know what they REALLY get up to. Probably the most corrupt and dangerous people on the planet

Watched a program about their networks, unbelievable, millions and millions of people!!!, the FBI too, basically blackmail people to spy for them, even people who have committed petty crimes if they have the right connections
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gonna take me a while... I can only handle so much 'truth' at a time...

why is it that so many of these videos are so bloody awful in production? (hollywood conspiracy? )


What's your take on organ donation then as it's come up in your video recommendation?

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Hi Tony

I completely agree and if you go to the comments on number 10 you will find me saying exactly that and the very fact that there was not even a mention of George W Bush and his orchestration of 9/11 would seem to back their republican stance and attack on the Democratic party.

"Out of Shadows" is a fantastic and insightful look at how Hollywood is run. That is a very very well documented film by 2 top pro stunt men. In my eyes a must see and opens your eyes and mind to just how fooked up this world of ours is.

Stay with it Mal, you have a long way to go. Some, not all of what she says has been backed up by the boys in the "out of shadows" film above.
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I'm sure Trump has just duped his right wing base and those who think he is anti establishment, look at his actions towards Israel, recognising Golan heights and various settlements, not to mention moving the embassy...but yeah hes America first.
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Area 51, if you haven't already a must watch is 'Area 51 - Bob Lazar and Flying Saucers' on Netflix
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The Kubrick thing is interesting given that he had done 2001 the year before which was so far ahead of anything 'space' related for its time... If I was going to get someone to direct a moon landing in 1969 he'd have been my first choice. Then again, maybe it's just too obvious and an urban myth. And I'm not sure if the Kubrick I imagine would be up for taking on a deception job for the establishment...

Dean - I'll give the videos a go cause I'm a nice guy

Edit - ok. done the first one. let's call it 'selective' when it talks about Hilary and Obama eh? unsurprising if it's moving toward a pro-Trump standpoint. Some of it obvious and misinterpreted (the reptile imagery in the Bible / religious buildings - Satan appeared as a snake in the Garden of Eden so it's been part of the story for a long time). Some of it is just pish - staying on the Vatican part for example, the telescope isn't called Lucifer...

The organ donation thing is interesting given the recent change over here. I'm happy enough for my vital organs to go and help someone after I die. Those who don't like the idea can opt out. Better than the previous we had where potentially life saving transplants couldn't happen.
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One thing that has stood out for me ref the moon landings is the official picture of earth. the earth appears in that picture to be the same size as the moon when looking at it from earth 🌎...... how is that possible if the earth is 4 times the size of the moon.......if you were on the Moon and took a picture of the earth it would be huge!!
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Those are really interesting videos Dean. The only issue I have with them is there insistence that trump is the great saviour of humanity 🤔
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If you can find a documentary on YouTube called ďout of shadowsĒ it has some good stuff on mk ultra and the CIA. Not too easy to find for some reason.

Edit; This is it
https://youtu.be/yK0uaNW3R7s
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Hi Mal

The space landing was merely used as an example of just how far and long Governments are willing to keep lying. There are infinitely older and better examples, but this one was chosen purely at random. I completely concur that it was a "up your bum" moment and a big middle finger to the Ruskies. A somewhat pathetic ner ner ne ner ner moment that they had fabricated it for a big one up over the Russians.
Ken has already pointed out that after years of constant denial, eventually these things have a habit of being true some years later, or at least an admission of guilt by some involved. The very fact that the years have taken the sting and worldwide attention from these events, should not, detract away the facts that each and every government will lie, murder, starve and enslave their own people for their own political agenda and sheer outright greed.

Pick a subject from any of a number of worldwide events and we can go down that rabbit hole.

But first i would like to ask you all to watch a couple of videos if they are still on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTbglRablNOjMIUjbw0uu1WQ4vFidawQz

Sorry that you will have to copy and paste. Isat and watched every single one of them. Some will not bother, some will watch maybe one or 2, but be ready for a shock. It will get bad press from you all, but all the info is out there to back up all this up. Happy watching.
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moon landings are an interesting one, particularly in the context of the cold war.
does anyone have anything compelling they can share? I've heard a few theories such as kuberick having directed the footage, also if I recall correctly the original footage was lost by nasa.
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thanks Dean

so do you have a favourite specific theory?

Most people who have an inquiring mind about it will have seen a lot of the stuff about the Moon landing and the wider context of the 'space race' between the U.S. and the Soviets. I'm not being dismissive but it feels a long time ago and not hugely relevant to many these days - even if the wider idea of government secrecy will always be relevant.



Don't go out of your way to get slung off - there's no fun in that
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You seem like a really nice guy Mal

Do all the rules apply here as to the carpy threads as im wondering just how quickly it will take me to get slung off.

It would appear we have another level of personal pi55 taker onboard.

Christ this is going to be more fun that i imagined for at least a day or two lol

Peoples perceptions of EVERYTHING are a direct consequence of what information they are being fed and with what regularity that information is repeated. Quite simple and there is no arguing that fact, because FACT is what it is. You will all, no, sorry, most of you will all believe the Yanks landed on the moon, especially the older among you, because of the basic fact that it was shoved down your throats for many years with continued regularity, with the same facts over and over again. This then becomes part of both your concious and your subconcious thinking. Repetition is THE number one means of delivering information and making it stick. So, whether you want to believe it or not, your brain has a really hard time accepting ANY new information to the contrary once it has been implanted into your brain. They then back up the narrative with constant pictures and moving images and scenes of joy so that it implants a happy memory in your brain, which is one we tend to want to believe more and hang on to. The pure fact that 99% of the rest of the world have been fed the same info, anyone that would dare to contest or question the validity of this joyful event gets labelled a nutter or trouble maker. It is a very simple yet very powerful and effective means by which to implant any amount of BULLS4itt. Whats that say " Bull5hit baffles brains"?

And please do me a favour..........Make your reasons better than your excuses!
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I do find conspiracy theories interesting, more so the ones that were denied but years later admitted.

Project Sunshine,Ē was denied by the US government only years later to be proven true.

The CIA denied MK-ULTRA was a thing but now say it was something they were doing in the 1970s.

Area 51 was denied for decades and now they admit it is real.

Operation Mockingbird
Apparently didn't exist The program was started in 1948 under CIA official Frank Wisner but only came to light in the 1970s after the Watergate scandal prompted congressional review of domestic surveillance activities.

What else will be proven to be true in a few decades time.
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Some trolls deserve to be fed.......

Moon landings Martin, I know nothing about this.......
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moon landing.
Just 1 of many thoughts.

Massive rocket engine to stop the lander.
Crater or dust on lander feet ????

I will just leave this for you boys to think over
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well that was easier than i thought...

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Well, looks like everybody likes a conspiracy theory by the response to this
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Much of science is unproven, but there is overwhelming evidence and acceptance of greater probability ..........

it's a 'here's some bonkers idea that a bloke with no mates came up with' thread. (I only promised to not take the p on my other post, not forever)

Your such a funny guy Mal, the thread was put here for Dean to post on as spanky and yourself dont want your CV thread clogged up with alternative views to what you "An expert" posts.......Which to be fair is'nt funny, your not funny and my friends are real unlike the ones you think on here pretending to be your friend but are laughing at you, not with you.......

As for the holocaust i Got plenty of jokes but wouldnt want to offend your soft arse as you have already shown you cant take them but merely try to put **** ones on this forum.....Now **** off back to your CV thread and laugh at your own **** jokes.....Good day.........

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So you're basically saying to Tom - there are some conspiracy theories on the internet, go and have a look at them.

Top thread idea that.


And with regard to proof I agree. Much of science is unproven, but there is overwhelming evidence and acceptance of greater probability. Take for example any calculation that uses Pi as a factor. Pi as everyone knows is an approximate - an 'infinite' fraction. However, we accept and use it daily.

But this isn't a 'prove science' thread.

it's a 'here's some bonkers idea that a bloke with no mates came up with' thread. (I only promised to not take the p on my other post, not forever)

got any good holocaust jokes for us?
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I'm not trying to mock Wayne, for the record I do think there are cover ups and conspiracies to hide the truth with 9/11, you obviously have seen some good stuff if you are telling me to look harder so please throw it up.
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Obviously not looking hard enough Tom, Spend some time having a good look rather than trying to Mock and you will be fairly suprised whats a few clicks away.....

Mal - Lots of stuff we are taught and told is fact or proven yet it is infact unproven as the science to prove things is unproven.......Were told the science is proven but its impossible to prove........

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absolutely

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some theories are more probable than others though Mal and we can apply a bit of reasoning and logic. Question everything 😉
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like I said Wayne I've looked and hadn't found anything hugely compelling, you seemed quite convinced so I was hoping you may have found some persuasive stuff? I guess if you're scared that it won't stand up to scrutiny then your responses so far are understandable.
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ok - trying to remain positive and not just take the p

the thing about a theory - conspiracy or otherwise - is that it is self defined. it's just a theory - if there is hard evidence that is properly scrutinised and checked, sometimes theories can become facts. until then it's a theory and unproven.

by further self definition, a conspiracy theory assumes that there is an agenda to hide the truth - the 'conspiracy'.
this becomes the 'food' of the conspiracy theorist as they can respond to anyone who refutes their ideas - no matter how far fetched they might be - by saying 'ah yes, well that's what they want you to believe and you have fallen for it.' (won't go in to the hypocrisy of suggesting that they are also trying to get people to 'believe).

So it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. 'Where's the proof?' - 'They've hidden it. See I told you they were lying to you.'etc.

there - I didn't take the p at all

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If your genuinely interested then look across the internet to see what you can find, bring it back here, discuss, dismiss or believe it......
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that's a shame as I'm genuinely interested. I guess you have nothing to support what you believe then, unless of course you're just trolling and don't believe it at all?
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Who knows.....
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the person who set this thread up may or may not have been the mafia led by the FBI sniper on the grassy knoll in Dallas.
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Tom, keep baiting up as your not going to get a take from me.......
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so what's your theory on building 7, the Pentagon and downed plane and do you have any good supporting links?

and so what you're saying about the BBC report, the truth is what the BBC gave as the reason, they were told it was going to collapse as it looked likely to happen, they accidently misreported that it had collapsed, no conspiracy!?
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I've seen lots of info Wayne, just interested if there's any theory you find particularly persuasive?

Building 7, The Pentagon and the downed plane in pennsylvania i find interesting.

The MSM were informed of building 7 through there reporters on the ground, these were being told by fireman and these were told by SS who were swarming the complex to leave the area as the building was going to collapse.....

No revenge here Jon, say what you think just like people do on the CV thread.......If its going to be a pure piss take then we may as well lock both threads up now as they will get ruined.....
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Busy ATM, but can't wait to get copy and pasting the reasons people believe in conspiracy theories in this thread later. Revenge!
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I've seen lots of info Wayne, just interested if there's any theory you find particularly persuasive?

regards building 7 and the BBC reporting it had fallen half an hour before it did, what's more probable, that they cocked up, something was lost in translation and misreported on info coming from US or that there was a conspiracy and they, along with everyone in the MSM were told it was going to fall as part of a big plan and cocked up and misreported?
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Didnít just one corner go first?
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I would cross off 9/11 from my list.
Having seen what a fire does to steel girders in a relatively small building, I am certain that any building with a steel structure is at risk of collapse from fire. Steel doesnít need to melt just soften and deform so the load bearing capacity would be much less than they were designed to take if the beams were straight.
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Plenty of info out there Tom......go see what you can find......

Building 7 was reported collapsed by the BBC before it collapsed chuffy, itís believed thatís where the control centre was for the whole job as it housed CIA and Secret service offices.
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Rumbled!
Yeah I know I said that but you know what it's like
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Pearl Harbour. Trump said last night that the Chinese and the Corona virus pandemic was a bigger issue than Pearl Harbour

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now Bob I thought you said you wouldn't be posting much, people will soon start to suspect you are a lizard here to disrupt our awakening!

p.s will look at your video later
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It's where they kept the evidence that Bill Gates is a lizard
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so was it controlled demolition? and if so why?

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911, hmm, the one thing that still doesn't add up about that for me is the collapse of Tower 7
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I don't believe this thread even exists

or if it does, it's just a subversive plot by Bill Gates to get us all to use microsoft or google or something

apparently it was started in a lab where they faked the 1966 World Cup final


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I'm in
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Well done Wayne , i will be contributing later
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I'm not one for conspiracy theories but my mate who is sent me this
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Supposedly It was on youtube but was taken down, it involves Judy Mikovits who' s name keeps popping up on these type of things.
It's unlikely I will be getting involved to any degree on this thread but thought those that like CT's may 'enjoy' this and the other Andypep videos on Bitchute.
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   Old Thread  #2 7 May 2020 at 11.47am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hey Wayne, ok so you mentioned in the other thread that 9/11 was an inside job, do you want to get the ball rolling and explain your thoughts?..
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   Old Thread  #1 7 May 2020 at 11.31am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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