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   Old Thread  #3641 8 Aug 2020 at 11.55am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
So it looks like Russia are keen to win the race for a vaccine and start a mass programme by October...skipping clinical trials!
https://apnews.com/ea0e1221dba375d0f07ab9bc0f8bfe05
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   Old Thread  #3640 7 Aug 2020 at 10.49pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Agreed
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   Old Thread  #3639 7 Aug 2020 at 5.39pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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That's about the best we got but even some of those deaths could be nothing to do with actual Covid and due to say heart attacks as an example that weren't dealt with because of the circumstances?
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   Old Thread  #3638 7 Aug 2020 at 5.38pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Trust this government , your having a laugh ffs wake up
bent as fork.

there is a good reason i rant on about this bent as fu** ,shower of shi* in power , its because they are as bent as fuc* and a shower of shi* !



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   Old Thread  #3637 7 Aug 2020 at 5.29pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I thought everyone came to the conclusion that the only statistics regarding deaths that could be trusted was the amount above average deaths for the time span affected by Corona virus
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   Old Thread  #3636 7 Aug 2020 at 3.07pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I mentioned that was going on months ago and actually know people whose relatives died from terminal illnesses and Covid got put on the death cert, I think I got labelled as one of the 'Foil Hat' brigade
Why no-one can ever recover from COVID-19 in England Ė a statistical anomaly
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   Old Thread  #3635 7 Aug 2020 at 12.20pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Did you not read the example directly before that statement? Death not related to Covid classes as Covid. The figures arenít real

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   Old Thread  #3634 7 Aug 2020 at 11.47am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Figures are made up

Why would they make them up?

Or are the British been honest and the Chinese are just being typical Chinese etc...
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   Old Thread  #3633 7 Aug 2020 at 9.16am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Not at all, they are politicians.. Corruption is rife, doesn't matter what party.
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   Old Thread  #3632 7 Aug 2020 at 8.49am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Shocker isn't it
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   Old Thread  #3631 7 Aug 2020 at 7.42am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
More Tory corruption , dirty stinky Tory's

stiky tory .


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   Old Thread  #3630 7 Aug 2020 at 7.18am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Over prepared Like Gordon Brown did and got slated for??

I donít think people donít think itís real, just not as bad as itís made out to be. Iíve said it before, after demonising China for having it the entire worldís politicians couldnít just say it isnít as bad as first thought. Politicians can never admit being wrong. Weíve seen it in history, theyíd rather **** a country than admit they were wrong.

I know of people that have died of their terminal illness, tested negative for covid19 and the cause of death on the certificate is covid19, or at least itís a contributing factor. Figures are made up, and itís what we are fed to create a sense of fear of the virus. If they did the same for other viruses we would never leave the house.
It has a 99%+ survival rate, thatís based on low numbers of testing too. And on dodgy death figures. Do with that what you will.
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   Old Thread  #3629 7 Aug 2020 at 6.49am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I now get the feeling they realise they ****ed up but they donít have the balls to come out and admit it, loss of face is a greater fear to them than ruining the country.

Not so sure about that. Nobody knew the true impact, it is a learning curve for the world. Imagine the headlines if they had not prepared and we had wiped the NHS out and brought the country to a standstill, oh dear, we didn't see that coming, what a bunch of incompetents!

I would say better to be overly prepared than not

I still get the impression a lot of people think its not real. Do they see the people in the hospitals, the survivors and hear their storys

Like i said earlier, when their grandma gets it and snuffs it it may sink in, just
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   Old Thread  #3628 7 Aug 2020 at 3.08am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Futile should be my middle name....
Going back to my earlier post Iím certain it is a divide and conquer scenario we are facing, a supposed vaccine, a biometric health passport, those without both become second class citizens, turning citizen against citizen. Itís happening in China via AI surveillance facial recognition and point scoring for towing the party line etc. Me? Paranoid? Nah I just think everyone is out to get me!
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   Old Thread  #3627 7 Aug 2020 at 2.41am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I think trying to find some logic in it is futile.

I honestly think they don't have a proper plan because it's all reactionary- maybe out of necessity, but reactionary nonetheless. Increasingly it looks like economic decisions are outweighing health ones though.
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