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   Old Thread  #1472 16 Apr 2020 at 9.56am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The root cause is the supermarkets/buyers of the produce. Wonít pay a good price for produce but happy to sell it for much more. Farmers canít afford to pay above minimum wage for workers otherwise theyíd go bankrupt. Cheap labour needs importing. Are consumers as much to blame for wanting as cheap as possible food items? Or is that because people just donít have enough to pay the premium prices of the more organic foods all the time. I see in Tesco 1kg of carrots for 60p or whatever but the organically farmed (doesnít mean not picked by cheap labour but you get my drift) costs double that. Itís not affordable for everyone to double their vegetable shop on a weekly basis. So do you take it further back to what a living wage is and what people get paid for their jobs?

It runs pretty deep and everyone will see who to blame as different but end of the day should the government have let it happen like this and should they step in to stop it?

A good example of the poor contracts farmers get in to to try and secure their businesses can be seen from what Freshways have done in the last few days.l!!
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   Old Thread  #1471 16 Apr 2020 at 8.21am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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For that to happen there must be something wrong with our system, we need some Route Cause Analysis
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   Old Thread  #1470 16 Apr 2020 at 8.21am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Not sure we are enforcing two weeks isolation from anyone coming in to the country bud. Thereís multiple reports of people flying in and no one even taking their temperature in UK airports or asking any questions. The fact the borders are open is a disgrace in itself. I think itís less dangerous than other flights because from what I can see Romania isnít that bad, compared to us anyway, 7,500 cases & 375 deaths or thereabouts, plus the people are all together on the same plane, going to the same place in the same vehicles. Limits spread risk I guess. Still not right at all that any flights can get in the country. Donít get me started on the illegal Calais crossing being rescued and not tested despite the outbreak in the camps!

Theyíve said furloughed workers cannot work elsewhere. They can volunteer though. But not in the same organisation.
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   Old Thread  #1469 16 Apr 2020 at 7.50am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Itís 150 on one flight probably brought in by a employment agency as they can supply them cheaper than sourcing workers in this country and make a profit. Surely they need 14 days isolation as per returning travellers, so thatís 2 weeks lost of the picking season already. But I will put money on the company saying they have isolated in Romania before coming here 😡
Why would our own unemployed bother to get off their arses to work when they are guaranteed an income, a house and support. Those who have been furloughed are they allowed to take other employment or will they loose this as not available for their current employer?
As usual the workshy are guaranteed the same lifestyle whether it be recession, pandemic or aliens landing 😀
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   Old Thread  #1468 16 Apr 2020 at 7.37am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Some will hate it. Romanians being flown in and classed as key workers as they are feeding the nation and having to acknowledge their sacrifice during this crisis. Clap for the pickers every Monday night at 8pm anyone?

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   Old Thread  #1467 16 Apr 2020 at 7.20am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Don't even go there...

Exactly

I'm here all week

Oh no

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   Old Thread  #1466 15 Apr 2020 at 11.38pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
The Daily Mail claims its criticism of the government has forced the Tories to help the care sector. Piers Morgan has started asking Tories difficult questions. What with that and the spectacular failure of home grown labour stepping up to pick fruit and veg, I can see 'triggered gammon' becoming as ubiquitous as 'pulled pork' in the coming weeks.
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   Old Thread  #1465 15 Apr 2020 at 11.22pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Don't even go there...

So on tomorrow's agenda...

5G masts suspected of poisoning pangolins

Batman injured in misguided covid-19 related attack

Trump decides to officially remove the US from planet Earth as it's a bad place, a very bad place.

Chris Tarrant appears on the big TV at the coronavirus briefing. Dominic Raab is left stumped when it comes to 'phone a friend'...

And as a result of the virus, the UK brexit negotiator is forced to ask Michel Barnier for (and I'm officially claiming this word ) a Brextension ....

Thankyou, I'm here all week

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   Old Thread  #1464 15 Apr 2020 at 11.05pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Well done. Nobody likes having their view widened.
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   Old Thread  #1463 15 Apr 2020 at 10.38pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi Scozza,

OK, we'll get back stuck in tomorrow.... Gotta get some zeds in.....my brain hurts.

BB.

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   Old Thread  #1462 15 Apr 2020 at 10.32pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi Karlos,

Thanks for that. My page seems to be back to normal now, fingers crossed.

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   Old Thread  #1461 15 Apr 2020 at 10.24pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi Cam,
Thanks for pointing this (wide page issue) out.
I found a long link in post 1157, I have edited the link to make it shorter (but it still works) and I believe the page should now be normal width. It certainly is on my PC
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   Old Thread  #1460 15 Apr 2020 at 9.15pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Steady on mate.
A time of national emergency is no time for such outlandish behaviour
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   Old Thread  #1459 15 Apr 2020 at 9.00pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi Cam,

Thanks for that, but I spoke too soon and its done it again. I'll try writing across the whole page and see if that makes a difference. It puzzles me why only on this thread. But I'm not that bothered, it's not stopping me joining in.

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   Old Thread  #1458 15 Apr 2020 at 8.59pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I guess Itís good to talk, letís crack on with the politics while we are still locked down

I likeTrump lol

Ok, I rephrase that, some of his comments
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