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   Old Thread  #963 5 Apr 2020 at 9.18pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I had about 100 ffp3 masks, when the proverbial hit the fan I gave some to a doctor and some to a Jehovahís witness who believes the day of judgement is upon us... she still took some just in case she has pissed off the big fella without realising
The doctor was thankful but pointed out that without eye protection and frequently discarding the used masks you may as well use a sock. I did save 10 or so for the missus
Sadly there just isnít the ppe in place for a worldwide pandemic
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   Old Thread  #962 5 Apr 2020 at 9.09pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Unusually he makes some very valid points.
Doesn't look like he can be arsed to tank test his views for you though
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   Old Thread  #961 5 Apr 2020 at 8.58pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi Spanker,

It seems to me that your political bias is such that you are unwilling or unable to give the government and their advisors any credit for anything.
Rubbishing the competence and integrity of highly qualified and experienced medical scientists is a big call and would require some pretty comprehensive and impelling evidence to make it stick and I don't think you have made your case.
It's easy to make simplified, sweeping statements of judgement, but it's usually far more complicated than that and the devil's in the detail.

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   Old Thread  #960 5 Apr 2020 at 8.40pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Just took the dog for a walk Chuffy... 3M ventilator mask on, and a bottle of hand sanitiser gel in each coat pocket.

I messed right up... I came back from Brazil with 23 small bottles of 80% alcohol hand gel (20p per bottle out there) for family members & 3 FFP3 ventilator masks for me. (£4 each). I also stuffed 15 toilet rolls in my bigger suitcase as the shelves were all bare of it here.

I just got two more FFP3 masks from fleabay the other day, and got absolutely royally stung for it! Schoolboy error filling the suitcase with hand gel and toilet rolls... I should have filled it with FFP3 ventilator masks, they are suddenly worth an absolute fortune!
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   Old Thread  #959 5 Apr 2020 at 8.30pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The mask's worn by the Chinese were low grade , dental and surgeons mask's , worn not for protection but to stop the wearer spreading their germs , the ffp 3 mask's are what our nurses are wearing , i have just given 15 ffp 3 mask's to a nurse i know tonight , as they have run out of masks and as you must of heard by now , are being asked to hold their breath as they go in to treat patients , brilliant eh !
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   Old Thread  #958 5 Apr 2020 at 8.17pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi Butterbean

So , where do i start ,

Maybe the degrading of our NHS over the last 10 years through a "failed Austerity programme "

When Corbyn begged for a cobra meeting when everyone had realized what was coming except for Boris , who was on holiday !

Herd immunity !! well do i have to explain what a delay meant in acting , around 10 days , not sourcing vital ppe equipment and testing equipment not purchasing ventilators ! then denying that it was ever their plan !!

Boris going to a hospital treating Corona virus patients and bragging that he "shook hands with everyone " then telling us that its vital to not shake hands !

constant lies regarding , the number of test's , death rates , ventilator numbers existing and procured

Building of new hospitals , don't you mean , erecting partitions and filling em with beds , IN AN EXISTING BUILDING !

And yes , many brave volunteers have put their names forward to help , the people of this country are the heroes , lions led by donkeys !
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   Old Thread  #957 5 Apr 2020 at 7.56pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Judging by the person labour has appointed as their leader they don't agree with you.
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   Old Thread  #956 5 Apr 2020 at 7.55pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi Spanker,

Under this governments watch and that of their scientific and medical advisors, including the army, they have build the Nightingale hospital in 10 days, mobilised 25000 retired medics to the front line, signed up 750000 volunteers and undertaken the massive logistical operation of delivering the millions of the required medical equipment to every hospital, GP surgery, dental practice and nursing home in the country, as well as sending letters and text messages to every person who is considered vulnerable to the virus.
They have also organised the financial protection for businesses and workers across the country and many other essential tasks, too many to mention.
Given the short timescale of the achievements above, I would have thought that, under any given measurement of success, they have done a pretty commendable job.
I would suggest you put aside your political bias while the country is fighting this awful pandemic and cut the government a little slack.

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   Old Thread  #955 5 Apr 2020 at 7.24pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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But to be fair, a lot of Chinese people wear masks as a matter of course and it didn't make a blind bit of difference there as far as I can tell
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   Old Thread  #954 5 Apr 2020 at 7.17pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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That's three
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   Old Thread  #953 5 Apr 2020 at 6.45pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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And the truth is?

For starters a mask isnít much good if the virus can still enter your eyes, or you donít replace/sterilise said mask after every possible point of contact with it, the same with gloves and any clothing.


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   Old Thread  #952 5 Apr 2020 at 6.12pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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We need the truth at times like these ! , i would call out any government if they were making such a balls up as this !
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   Old Thread  #951 5 Apr 2020 at 6.09pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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This is in a Corona virus thread , in the none carp section , am i missing something ?????
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   Old Thread  #950 5 Apr 2020 at 5.56pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Exactly, if there aren't enough masks for the frontliners the last thing they need is the public trying to bulk buy them
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   Old Thread  #949 5 Apr 2020 at 5.40pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Heís only happy when he is Tory bashing.
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