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   Old Thread  #1082 8 Apr 2020 at 12.27pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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that's a great read
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   Old Thread  #1081 8 Apr 2020 at 12.10pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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that was the last half of it , for the full report , copy n paste the link 'https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN21P1X8?fbclid=IwAR10Yt-QT7enb6e7NMR-OUdsKLHuzJijSFbs660R40HkJRzrmjC6l36zgvc
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   Old Thread  #1080 8 Apr 2020 at 12.08pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
An excellent factual report by Reuters , what an absolute fiasco 'A TIME TO PREPARE

On the evening of January 31, Boris Johnson sat before a fireplace in 10 Downing Street and told the nation, in a televised address: "This is the moment when the dawn breaks and the curtain goes up on a new act in our great national drama."

He was talking of finally delivering Brexit, or what he called "this recaptured sovereignty." Until that moment, Johnson's premiership had been utterly absorbed by delivering on that challenge.

With Brexit done, Johnson had the chance to focus on other matters the following month, among them the emerging virus threat. But leaving the European Union had a consequence.

Between February 13 and March 30, Britain missed a total of eight conference calls or meetings about the coronavirus between EU heads of state or health ministers - meetings that Britain was still entitled to join. Although Britain did later make an arrangement to attend lower-level meetings of officials, it had missed a deadline to participate in a common purchase scheme for ventilators, to which it was invited. Ventilators, vitally important to treating the direst cases of COVID-19, have fallen into short supply globally. Johnson's spokesman blamed an administrative error.

A Downing Street aide told Reuters that from around the end of January, Johnson concentrated his attention increasingly on the coronavirus threat, receiving "very frequent" updates at least once per day from mid February, either in person or via a daily dashboard of cases.

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In the medical and scientific world, there was growing concern about the threat of the virus to the UK. A report from Exeter University, published on February 12, warned a UK outbreak could peak within four months and, without mitigation, infect 45 million people.

That worried Rahuldeb Sarkar, a consultant physician in respiratory medicine and critical care in the county of Kent, who foresaw that intensive care beds could be swamped. Even if disease transmission was reduced by half, he wrote in a report aimed at clinicians and actuaries in mid-February, a coronavirus outbreak in the UK would "have a chance of overwhelming the system."

With Whitty stating in a BBC interview on February 13 that a UK outbreak was still an "if, not a when," Richard Horton, a medical doctor and editor of the Lancet, said the government and public health service wasted an opportunity that month to prepare quarantine restriction measures and a programme of mass tests, and procure resources like ventilators and personal protective equipment for expanded intensive care.

Calling the lost chance a "national scandal" in a later editorial, he would testify to parliament about a mismatch between "the urgent warning that was coming from the frontline in China" and the "somewhat pedestrian evaluation" of the threat from the scientific advice to the government.

After developing a test for the new virus by January 10, health officials adopted a centralised approach to its deployment, initially assigning a single public laboratory in north London to perform the tests. But, according to later government statements, there was no wider plan envisaged to make use of hundreds of laboratories across the country, both public and private, that could have been recruited.

According to emails and more than a dozen scientists interviewed by Reuters, the government issued no requests to labs for assistance with staff or testing equipment until the middle of March, when many abruptly received requests to hand over nucleic acid extraction instruments, used in testing. An executive at the Weatherall Institute of Molecular Medicine at the University of Oxford said he could have carried out up to 1,000 tests per day from February. But the call never came.

"You would have thought that they would be bashing down the door," said the executive, who spoke on condition of anonymity. By April 5, Britain had carried out 195,524 tests, in contrast to at least 918,000 completed a week earlier in Germany.

Nor was there an effective effort to expand the supply of ventilators. The Department of Health told Reuters in a statement that the government started talking to manufacturers of ventilators about procuring extra supplies in February. But it was not until March 16, after it was clear supplies could run out, that Johnson launched an appeal to industry to help ramp up production.

Charles Bellm, managing director of Intersurgical, a global supplier of medical ventilation products based outside London, said he has been contacted by more than a dozen governments around the world, including France, New Zealand and Indonesia. But there had been no contact from the British government. "I find it somewhat surprising, I have spoken to a lot of other governments," he said.

Countering such criticism, Hancock, the health minister, said the government is on track to deliver about 10,000 more ventilators in the coming weeks. One reason Britain was behind some countries on testing, he said, was the absence of a large diagnostics industry at the outbreak of the epidemic. "We didnít have the scale."

GAME OVER

It was during the school half-term holidays in February that frontline doctor Nicky Longley began to realise that early efforts to contain the disease were likely doomed.

For weeks now, doctors and public health workers had been watching out for people with flu-like symptoms coming in from China. Longley, an infectious diseases consultant at Londonís Hospital for Tropical Diseases, was part of a team that staffed a public health service helpline for those with symptoms. The plan, she said, had been to make all ef
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   Old Thread  #1079 8 Apr 2020 at 11.32am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'm not in Merseyside. I've been working on the hospital to help get the first 2 floors finished for Easter. My son's firm was short of electrical engineers, so I got intouch and started with them til it's done.
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   Old Thread  #1078 8 Apr 2020 at 8.58am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It's all guess work this is a new virus they are are doing there best they can trying to stay positive there only human the only thing that should be done is stop aid to China now
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   Old Thread  #1077 7 Apr 2020 at 11.04pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi Ocelot,

It seems the new cases nationally are leveling off, which the chief medical officer said was, hopefully an indication that the peak would be soon and then to decline.
If you're in Liverpool, I suppose it's likely big cities will remain as hot spots of infections.
That's good news re the new hospital. I guess you can use all the capacity you can get.

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   Old Thread  #1076 7 Apr 2020 at 10.41pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It's not slowing where I live. Cases are rising and still only testing hospital admissions. Bad news today was known a while ago unfortunately.
Good news is we're on target to get the state of the art New Royal Hospital Liverpool handed over to the NHS on Thursday. Not bad for some lazy Brits eh Spinbowler 🇬🇧
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   Old Thread  #1075 7 Apr 2020 at 9.52pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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We all lose people close to us throughout our lives just like my children will lose me one day.Its how nature works we are born and we die,what happens in between is what you make of it.Im not scared by death as it is something I can not control so why sit and worry about it.Live everyday likes it's your last and enjoy every bit of it along the way.Im worried for my mum and when she passes I will be devastated but my mum would not want me sitting around for weeks crying,she would want me to get on with my life.Its just how we are,life is too short.
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Oh yeah I hope he survives
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   Old Thread  #1074 7 Apr 2020 at 9.31pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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explain to me how they are confident
Because they want to put on a positive face

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   Old Thread  #1073 7 Apr 2020 at 9.30pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
So.... Braders, Wayne. ...

What's going to make you happier?

Boris survives and proves your conspiracy theory

Or Boris dies and you get rid of another lying politician?

Sorry to be blunt but remember that he's someone's husband and dad and son.

I'm not a fan of his political work by a very long shot, but he's a person with people that care. Bigger picture lads

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   Old Thread  #1072 7 Apr 2020 at 9.22pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Confident Boris will make a full recovery,explain to me how they are confident, based on what can they be confident.Its all ****ing guess work and it's not like Boris is the fittest person in the first place.So younger,fitter people have died but they are confident the prime minister will make a full recovery
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   Old Thread  #1071 7 Apr 2020 at 9.01pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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not here either but then again I didn't go out to see..
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   Old Thread  #1070 7 Apr 2020 at 8.44pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Since when is being positive lying.

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I've not heard any clapping either but then again apart from on here I haven't heard it was to meant to happen
Edit just found the reason why I googled and it was publicised in the newspapers, I haven't seen a newspaper for 2 weeks!
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   Old Thread  #1069 7 Apr 2020 at 8.11pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi guys,

Figures just in show 854 deaths in the last 24 hours, the highest day rate so far. The UK total now 6227.
But the graph shows a slowing down in the rate of increase. The same applies to the daily new infection rate, which is showing signs of flattening off and the hope is, in the next couple of weeks it will start to decline.
Unfortunately, the death rate will take longer to flatten and reduce, because the time frame between an infected patient being admitted to hospital and unfortunately, going on to die can be up to three weeks, so if new infections were suddenly zero, there would still be up to three weeks of deaths to come.
A peak is still expected to come in the next week or so, but the above are signs of optimism, although many 1000s of more deaths are, unfortunately expected to come.
Bad news today, was that the antibody test kits would not be available for some time, not sure of the reason, so that will delay important test data for ongoing predictive forecasts.
Good news today, via Mal, is 10000 new CPAP breathing aids are up for distribution.
It seems plans for an end strategy and the relaxation of the lockdown are under consideration with eyes on the progress of countries like Italy, which are further into the pandemic than we are.

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   Old Thread  #1068 7 Apr 2020 at 8.08pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Well I can honestly say,I heard not one clap near me.I will be out on Thursday for the NHS
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