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   Old Thread  #2634 12 May 2020 at 10.55pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
we can't rely on the common sense of the british public...

the general election showed us that

... and we're off!
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   Old Thread  #2633 12 May 2020 at 10.26pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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"Take it on the chin " sympathy for a Buffoon who "shook hands with everyone in the hospital " just that statement alone would of caused numerous infections and deaths !

There are plenty of other countries in the study that are not Asian that you have failed to mention in your biased analysis !

Im sure we all know the importance of fitting a mask to your face and how to take them off , it's not rocket science if billions of people can manage to do it in Asia , can't see it as being to much of a problem !

The NHS were supposed to be protected by a "pandemic stockpile " which was overseen by a government body , and out of 26 million face masks 80% were out of date when needed along with the majority of ppe in the stockpile , i put the link up to the documentary last night !

you said "had it not got into hospitals " eh , where do you treat your patients if not in hospitals ?

What are you suggesting , blame the NHS ?

Japan has a higher population density yet hardly any deaths Vietnam which borders China has hardly any !

We knew the dangers and the vulnerability of care homes as we watched it unfold in Spain and Italy , they needed government help

Time to admit the truth lads , Boris and his goons have Fuc*ed up , dress it up any way you want too there is no denying the facts and figures and now prepare yourselves for an increase in cases after all this hard work !

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   Old Thread  #2632 12 May 2020 at 9.34pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Herd immunity was never really taken off the table, just dressed up differently.
The Asian countries you mention culturally wear masks, meaning their availability is much much better. We have been told to use Ďface coveringsí which are as useful as a chocolate teapot when you consider the size of virus particles and the fact about 90% of people would still get infected in full ppe at high exposure because the way you put in on and take it off is as important as wearing it. Plus it can get into your eyes and I could count on my genitals the number of people I see with eye protection out and about.
The nhs and care system were protected, to what level depends on the trust or owners in question, and they are rife with it.. You could argue that had it not got into hospitals our death rates would read quite well compared to other countries; especially ones that are major transport and business hubs for the entire planet on such a small patch of land.. so should we blame the health service? No letís blame one man who was actually half dead for a percentage of time heís getting stick for...
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   Old Thread  #2631 12 May 2020 at 9.20pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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for all those who wanted the "common sense " backed up by the science ! here you go , so , unless we get a significant amount of the public wearing masks , soon , we will be in the shi* , again , looks like Doris is still going for the herd immunity plan . surely they can't be this incompetent , so , it must be the herd immunity plan , if 80 - 90 % of the working class get it , job done !
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   Old Thread  #2630 12 May 2020 at 8.46pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #2629 12 May 2020 at 7.06pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Wonít be going out tomorrow as the streets will be packed with full time exercisers and I need to drive to the coasters 😡

Panic exercising😀
Panic excursioners😀
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   Old Thread  #2628 12 May 2020 at 4.38pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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panic fishing is next by all accounts...

and panic bloody Big Macs is soon to follow....
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   Old Thread  #2627 12 May 2020 at 4.14pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Deep breathing cures CV and calming mad forum posting

I know there are questions in every situation but at this time i just think its political point scoring and asking questions for the sake of it. Like the daily government briefings for the last 6 weeks.

Maybe its like panic buying and will calm down as days go on.
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   Old Thread  #2626 12 May 2020 at 3.39pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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aaaand breathe...

i'm with you on a lot of that. Absolutely, ANY government's worst nightmare. And any government would be facing the same questioning and criticism. it comes with the job and we're lucky to live in a society where we can ask those questions.

I think you've hit the nail on the head with the 'interpreting' part. We only need to interpret when things aren't clear. I think / hope most people will interpret it with common sense. Some will use it as a way to carry on with their 'I'm all right Jack' and 'what's in it for me?' behaviour. And some will interpret it differently and then be told 'no we didn't mean that' which is where the clarity becomes an issue.

More information is coming out as a response to the questioning so it's a largely positive process. Let's hope it continues to be eh?



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   Old Thread  #2625 12 May 2020 at 2.43pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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From my position i know what I need to do and have interpreted his statements for me.

I understand that people have specific questions and that's when the "what ifs" appear.

But i struggle with people understanding if you can go to work safely go if you cant then don't. Childcare is a reason you cant go to work then don't.

As Boris stated things will follow this week ie the furlough scheme has just been extended.

But at some stage we must confront this virus and start to resume life as staying at home forever is no life. How will the NHS, and furlough scheme, etc.... be funded if people aren't working to fund them!

He is talking to 66 million people with sweeping statements and the cap doesn't fit everyone. The media are quick to say we didn't lock down soon enough, why are the government forcing draconian measures on us, what about our human rights for self determination, we don't want to be controlled, we want the government to guide us out, we don't understand, we want/don't want the government to control our release. To be quite honest and with any government this would be their worse nightmare but confusion is emanating from both sides, the media and people set on causing disruption for their own gains.
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   Old Thread  #2624 12 May 2020 at 2.07pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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remember there are some people who are evidently either very selfish or a bit thick (they think Stay at Home means 'go fishing and brag about it')

Some people have got to do what they got to do rather than posting on forums the same old expert (imo) drivel day in day out and laughing at ones own jokes..........
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   Old Thread  #2623 12 May 2020 at 12.50pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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People are asking questions that are specific to them I think Fishie - which is fair enough (not necessarily the media, but they have their own job to do)

People need specifics because unfortunately for Boris, we don't live in a world where two word statements are a valid answer (especially from a well paid, supposed 'leader')

As for the confusion - he and his cabinet only add to that with contradictory responses. Matt Hancock and Grant Shapps giving different responses to the same question as an example. Even Boris yesterday 'Stay alert for most people means Stay at Home...'

I think it's perfectly valid for an employee AND an employer to ask the question 'You have said to go back to work where possible, however schools still remain closed so some people aren't in a position to do so. So what happens in terms of pay? What if that is the majority of my staff? Am I still on furlough pay?' etc.

there are complexities that need exploring and that's ok. It;s the governments job to answer those questions.

But - remember there are some people who are evidently either very selfish or a bit thick (they think Stay at Home means 'go fishing and brag about it') and of course there are others - maybe the older generation, who might need a bit of extra clarification.

From experience, if someone doesn't fully understand something, shouting 'IT'S SIMPLE' at them isn't the answer...

There's still the valid criticism that his advice suits office / white collar workers with their own car way more than blue collar staff who rely on public transport...

Watching Rishi Sunak at the moment. For me, he's been the most reliable through this. He's not got everything right, but he has revisited where he could and speaks simply and clearly.

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   Old Thread  #2622 12 May 2020 at 11.22am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Iím confused Fishie, can any of our experts explain the current guidelines as they see them please. also whatís the deal with masks.......
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   Old Thread  #2621 12 May 2020 at 10.26am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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All very good at i don't understand but not putting any ideas forward just like labour and the rest.

Quote this morning on LBC from caller "ask my men to start laying floors again, some replied its to dangerous, so i said you are coming off furlough and going onto Statutory sick pay! they all want to work from Monday."

Is this the next problem have people become to use to 80% for nothing?

Remember STAY ALERT and if you don't understand- it if you can go to work following guidelines go to ****ing work if you cant or can work from home stay at ****ing home!
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   Old Thread  #2620 12 May 2020 at 8.27am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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They have always been like that ,they just like to stir things. Thatís one of the reasons why I donít watch or listen.
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