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   Old Thread  #2743 16 May 2020 at 5.41pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Mind you Chris Whitty did say THIS last week, probably got put on the naughty step after that unless having achieved what they set out to do which was stop the NHS ICU wards getting battered they are now going to start telling the truth

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   Old Thread  #2742 16 May 2020 at 4.47pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Did China buy up worlds supply of ppe , i would not say the entire worlds supply , tell me what you think is factual and i will respond , maybe even your source , i would be very surprised if they did not try to buy more ppe , self preservation n all that !

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   Old Thread  #2741 16 May 2020 at 4.23pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Every country has to look after its own interests.

Still I see no answer to the outstanding question.

Im sure i saw Wayne with his arm around Piers Corbyn not sure whether it was a man hug or a death grip
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   Old Thread  #2740 16 May 2020 at 3.52pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11638154/scuffles-protests-london-coronavirus-lockdown/?utm_medium=browser_notifications&utm_source=pushly


I thought Wayne was quiet.... now we know why....



let us know when they let you out...
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   Old Thread  #2739 16 May 2020 at 2.53pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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All countries acted in their own self interests when the shi* hit the fan , and i would expect nothing else !
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   Old Thread  #2738 16 May 2020 at 2.48pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Since when have i said our response was not a shambles? I am the one admitting mistakes have been made!

I state that China brought up the worlds supply of PPE and you respond with American piracy? So did China buy up the worlds PPE supplies in December and January or not?

Without a clear and transparent enquiry into this the world will never know and this tit for tat allegations is proving nothing!

Its a bit like this thread bouncing off from both sides and both basically banging our heads against the wall.

Now off for an ice cream and a stick of rock got to join the queues before they get to long
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   Old Thread  #2737 16 May 2020 at 2.40pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yes , this should prove interesting , as long as the antibodies stay in the system long enough to shed light on last years outbreaks , vital knowledge !

Im also not going to be swayed by the anti China propaganda by those who don't care about the interests of the general public of this country or the USA !
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   Old Thread  #2736 16 May 2020 at 2.39pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Or was it just an early flu season.

Nobody knows and as stated an antibody test would show that the person if they had it.

But 1 cold or flu since December will show that. They may have had multiple sessions which one was CV?
A sniffle or no symptoms as well could be a mild case!

So to be quite honest its pissing in the wind, unless you dig up a body or samples were saved!
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   Old Thread  #2735 16 May 2020 at 2.29pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Do you write for "the Sun "

America was accused of Piracy with regard to how they procured their ppe other countries made it illegal to sell their supplies abroad , our response was a shambles , as listed on this thread , many times over !

As i said regarding the source , besides "staying alert " i am keeping an open mind !

I know how the Chinese state operate

And of course they would try to save face , as would the US
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   Old Thread  #2734 16 May 2020 at 2.06pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Something the antibody test will be able to tell us?
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   Old Thread  #2733 16 May 2020 at 1.56pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Americas flu season started "unseasonably " early as stated in this news report , were some of the cases covid 19 ?

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   Old Thread  #2732 16 May 2020 at 1.37pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I don't remember other nations having the need to deny outbreaks, buying up all the worlds PPE and welding people in houses and compound in December and January. Plus failing to notify WHO and saying is not person to person transmissible. Shutting down Dr's trying to discuss problems with a new virus and then destroying research and records. But hey ho it was the americans because they were fit and other athletes could not transmit the virus. Asymptomatic carriers ring a bell?

This is a total deflection by China to save face!
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   Old Thread  #2731 16 May 2020 at 12.48pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Our press is very much on the side of America , especially Murdoch !
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   Old Thread  #2730 16 May 2020 at 12.47pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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how do we know if no other nation suffered infections ? i would say of the athletes from 21 countries , i'm not sure how many if anyone would accompany them ?, but these are going to be physically your fittest , so , might not show serious symptoms , if any , whereas the employees of the hotel that the American athletes stayed in would fare worse , all i'm saying is , im keeping an open mind , as both countries are in the middle of an epic trade war and are not to be trusted ! China are the unstoppable force and America as proven in recent history , will resort to almost anything to retain "top spot " , it's going to get tasty ! are we "on the fence" as we know that China will be the eventual winners
Shame they both can't just "get in a cage " and have a good scrap and get it on pay per view !


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   Old Thread  #2729 16 May 2020 at 12.32pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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How can they start to re-open stuff without an efficient track and test system?


I suppose it's a compromise and a balancing of the economy against a tolerable amount of extra deaths?
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