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   Old Thread  #3534 31 Jul 2020 at 12.21pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I think there was a bit of confusion when it dropped last night but mostly it's straightforward. If a bit nonsensical in parts...

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   Old Thread  #3533 31 Jul 2020 at 12.13pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Good to see Andy Burnham asking for clarity rather than take the opportunity to score points

Yes it is confusing I'm sure it will be rectified soon but I can't help thinking that the MSM just love to broadcast confusion stories all morning for the sake of it. I don't want to be callous but is there any need to send a reporter out to someone's auntie to interview her about her about her friends & families health circumstances unique to her only and what is she to do?
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   Old Thread  #3532 31 Jul 2020 at 12.02pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Absolutely agree that if there are biological factors then it must be looked at. Just saying that there are other contributing issues too.

Wasn't long ago we were told that bald men are more at risk. Yesterday I saw something about men over 6 ft being more at risk... a couple of biological factors that mean I'm pretty safe! 😅

I've had a word with my cat this morning about her tendency to pop in to number 14 for extra food. She said something that sounded like 'sod that' before heading out...
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   Old Thread  #3531 31 Jul 2020 at 11.01am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
No households can meet up in these newly announced affected areas.

However households from these newly affected areas can meet up with other households that havenít being affected if they follow social distancing rules.



Edit - Canít do links but just take a look at the BBC breakfast interview with Matt Hancock this morning. If this isnít contradictive to the guidelines the government issued then I donít know what is. Itís mind bending to say the least.
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   Old Thread  #3530 31 Jul 2020 at 10.43am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yeah I think they've got past that and realised it's an oversimplification


Of course you're right about densely populated areas, those areas will be always be at higher risk but coupled with certain ethnicities who prefer to live in closer proximity and it's inevitable spikes will occur there first.
Certain BAME have suffered higher rates of infection and rather than say their bodies may be more susceptible they said it was the jobs they were doing, now it looks like they are more biologically susceptible.
If there's a problem then let's not be too PC and be afraid to talk about it, if not we're not helping those that are suffering.
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   Old Thread  #3529 31 Jul 2020 at 9.51am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yeah I think they've got past that and realised it's an oversimplification. Looking at the areas on the list there's a lot of densely populated, working class areas. Working from home less of an option / pub culture / terraced housing etc. Lots of factors although it's easy to look at the measures as an intervention ahead of Eid....

The spikes correlate with pub openings, schools going back (in part) more shops and businesses open.

Over the past few weeks around here it has looked like most people did just go back to 'normal' and the distancing out and about wasn't brilliant. I went into the town centre once and that was it for me. It was a virus' dream with people just ignoring the simple distancing requests... 'I'm not effing walking all the effing way round there. I only want to effing go to primark and it's just there. Effing stupid rule. Come on you two...' ( I think I got the right number of expletives in there)

We've had more testing stations here too and as Trump tells us, more testing means higher numbers. It's entirely possible that other areas have similar infection rates but just don't know it yet...

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   Old Thread  #3528 31 Jul 2020 at 9.47am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
It would seem that transmission is much much more likely when indoors.

Hence the lack of spike following various demo / beach gatherings.

Has the weather made people meet up indoors more recently in the areas which are seeing the new restrictions?
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   Old Thread  #3527 31 Jul 2020 at 9.41am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Living near one of the areas (Darwen next to Blackburn sadly) this was well and truly expected Ė nobody I know did not know this was not coming.

The truth be told- certain sections of the community have shown a total utter disregard to the lockdown rules since day one Ė football matches when no outdoor sports allowed, cricket matches, social gatherings, weddings with over 100 guests entry via the back doors ...................................... The list and videos of such actions is endless.


This lockdown is of no surprise at all - just plain simple stupidity has caused it.
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   Old Thread  #3526 31 Jul 2020 at 9.31am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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For a while they said spikes were happening in areas where the Asian population was high but they don't tend to say that as much lately.
Lets not all be doom and gloom not all of the UK is in a spike some parts are doing quite well all things considered.
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   Old Thread  #3525 31 Jul 2020 at 9.20am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Donít just think itís the pubs, people have relaxed and moved on. No spikes from the riots, marches, beaches and raves. So why now?
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   Old Thread  #3524 31 Jul 2020 at 8.52am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Closing pubs would be the right thing to do,too many pissed up bellends ignoring social distancing
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   Old Thread  #3523 31 Jul 2020 at 7.46am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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That post is like my neighbors garden after a mole attack !
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   Old Thread  #3522 31 Jul 2020 at 7.31am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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FFS mate why dont you bore off only 1 of my close family or friends work for the NHS I have never claimed the 80% was my figure itís the ONS figure. Go speak to your brother who knows everyone and 2,500 tests and see how many of the 1,3 million have returned positive antibodies as heís well in with the testing program.

Search for UK CV data and low and behold pillar 3 testing data (antibody) over 1,3000,000 tests done.

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   Old Thread  #3521 31 Jul 2020 at 5.46am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Agree itís the right thing to do.

I mean on the whole itís all a mess for everyone and everything.
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   Old Thread  #3520 31 Jul 2020 at 1.44am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'd agree if it was an across the board lockdown, but it's a bit daft to say that's the cause of the rise in numbers whilst keeping the shops, pubs and restaurants open... maybe it's a plan to boost the north west economy. 'You can't meet at home but you are ok if you are out spending money.

I can see a full lockdown coming for us soon unfortunately...

And of course the coppers isolating is right. It was more of a 'you couldn't make it up' reaction with the situation

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