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 #3534 31 Jul 2020 at 12.21pm | |   |
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In reply to Post #3533
I think there was a bit of confusion when it dropped last night but mostly it's straightforward. If a bit nonsensical in parts...
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#3533 31 Jul 2020 at 12.13pm | | |
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In reply to Post #3531
LINK
Good to see Andy Burnham asking for clarity rather than take the opportunity to score points 
Yes it is confusing I'm sure it will be rectified soon but I can't help thinking that the MSM just love to broadcast confusion stories all morning for the sake of it. I don't want to be callous but is there any need to send a reporter out to someone's auntie to interview her about her about her friends & families health circumstances unique to her only and what is she to do?
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| | | mal | | Posts: 6059 | | |
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#3532 31 Jul 2020 at 12.02pm | | |
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In reply to Post #3530
Absolutely agree that if there are biological factors then it must be looked at. Just saying that there are other contributing issues too.
Wasn't long ago we were told that bald men are more at risk. Yesterday I saw something about men over 6 ft being more at risk... a couple of biological factors that mean I'm pretty safe! 😅
I've had a word with my cat this morning about her tendency to pop in to number 14 for extra food. She said something that sounded like 'sod that' before heading out...
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#3531 31 Jul 2020 at 11.01am | | |
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No households can meet up in these newly announced affected areas.
However households from these newly affected areas can meet up with other households that haven’t being affected if they follow social distancing rules.
Edit - Can’t do links but just take a look at the BBC breakfast interview with Matt Hancock this morning. If this isn’t contradictive to the guidelines the government issued then I don’t know what is. It’s mind bending to say the least.
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#3530 31 Jul 2020 at 10.43am | | |
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In reply to Post #3529
Yeah I think they've got past that and realised it's an oversimplification
Of course you're right about densely populated areas, those areas will be always be at higher risk but coupled with certain ethnicities who prefer to live in closer proximity and it's inevitable spikes will occur there first.
Certain BAME have suffered higher rates of infection and rather than say their bodies may be more susceptible they said it was the jobs they were doing, now it looks like they are more biologically susceptible.
If there's a problem then let's not be too PC and be afraid to talk about it, if not we're not helping those that are suffering.
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| | | mal | | Posts: 6059 | | |
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#3529 31 Jul 2020 at 9.51am | | |
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In reply to Post #3526
Yeah I think they've got past that and realised it's an oversimplification. Looking at the areas on the list there's a lot of densely populated, working class areas. Working from home less of an option / pub culture / terraced housing etc. Lots of factors although it's easy to look at the measures as an intervention ahead of Eid....
The spikes correlate with pub openings, schools going back (in part) more shops and businesses open.
Over the past few weeks around here it has looked like most people did just go back to 'normal' and the distancing out and about wasn't brilliant. I went into the town centre once and that was it for me. It was a virus' dream with people just ignoring the simple distancing requests... 'I'm not effing walking all the effing way round there. I only want to effing go to primark and it's just there. Effing stupid rule. Come on you two...' ( I think I got the right number of expletives in there)
We've had more testing stations here too and as Trump tells us, more testing means higher numbers. It's entirely possible that other areas have similar infection rates but just don't know it yet...
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#3528 31 Jul 2020 at 9.47am | | |
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It would seem that transmission is much much more likely when indoors.
Hence the lack of spike following various demo / beach gatherings.
Has the weather made people meet up indoors more recently in the areas which are seeing the new restrictions?
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#3527 31 Jul 2020 at 9.41am | | |
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In reply to Post #3525
Living near one of the areas (Darwen next to Blackburn sadly) this was well and truly expected – nobody I know did not know this was not coming.
The truth be told- certain sections of the community have shown a total utter disregard to the lockdown rules since day one – football matches when no outdoor sports allowed, cricket matches, social gatherings, weddings with over 100 guests entry via the back doors ...................................... The list and videos of such actions is endless.
This lockdown is of no surprise at all - just plain simple stupidity has caused it. 
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#3526 31 Jul 2020 at 9.31am | | |
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In reply to Post #3525
For a while they said spikes were happening in areas where the Asian population was high but they don't tend to say that as much lately.
Lets not all be doom and gloom not all of the UK is in a spike some parts are doing quite well all things considered.
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#3525 31 Jul 2020 at 9.20am | | |
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In reply to Post #3524
Don’t just think it’s the pubs, people have relaxed and moved on. No spikes from the riots, marches, beaches and raves. So why now?
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#3524 31 Jul 2020 at 8.52am | | |
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In reply to Post #3519
Closing pubs would be the right thing to do,too many pissed up bellends ignoring social distancing
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#3523 31 Jul 2020 at 7.46am | | |
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In reply to Post #3522
That post is like my neighbors garden after a mole attack !
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#3522 31 Jul 2020 at 7.31am | | |
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In reply to Post #3509
FFS mate why dont you bore off only 1 of my close family or friends work for the NHS I have never claimed the 80% was my figure it’s the ONS figure. Go speak to your brother who knows everyone and 2,500 tests and see how many of the 1,3 million have returned positive antibodies as he’s well in with the testing program.
Search for UK CV data and low and behold pillar 3 testing data (antibody) over 1,3000,000 tests done.
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#3521 31 Jul 2020 at 5.46am | | |
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In reply to Post #3519
Agree it’s the right thing to do.
I mean on the whole it’s all a mess for everyone and everything.
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| | | mal | | Posts: 6059 | | |
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#3520 31 Jul 2020 at 1.44am | | |
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In reply to Post #3519
I'd agree if it was an across the board lockdown, but it's a bit daft to say that's the cause of the rise in numbers whilst keeping the shops, pubs and restaurants open... maybe it's a plan to boost the north west economy. 'You can't meet at home but you are ok if you are out spending money.
I can see a full lockdown coming for us soon unfortunately...
And of course the coppers isolating is right. It was more of a 'you couldn't make it up' reaction with the situation
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