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   Old Thread  #3634 7 Aug 2020 at 11.47am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Figures are made up

Why would they make them up?

Or are the British been honest and the Chinese are just being typical Chinese etc...
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   Old Thread  #3633 7 Aug 2020 at 9.16am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Not at all, they are politicians.. Corruption is rife, doesn't matter what party.
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   Old Thread  #3632 7 Aug 2020 at 8.49am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Shocker isn't it
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   Old Thread  #3631 7 Aug 2020 at 7.42am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
More Tory corruption , dirty stinky Tory's

stiky tory .


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   Old Thread  #3630 7 Aug 2020 at 7.18am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Over prepared Like Gordon Brown did and got slated for??

I donít think people donít think itís real, just not as bad as itís made out to be. Iíve said it before, after demonising China for having it the entire worldís politicians couldnít just say it isnít as bad as first thought. Politicians can never admit being wrong. Weíve seen it in history, theyíd rather **** a country than admit they were wrong.

I know of people that have died of their terminal illness, tested negative for covid19 and the cause of death on the certificate is covid19, or at least itís a contributing factor. Figures are made up, and itís what we are fed to create a sense of fear of the virus. If they did the same for other viruses we would never leave the house.
It has a 99%+ survival rate, thatís based on low numbers of testing too. And on dodgy death figures. Do with that what you will.
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   Old Thread  #3629 7 Aug 2020 at 6.49am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I now get the feeling they realise they ****ed up but they donít have the balls to come out and admit it, loss of face is a greater fear to them than ruining the country.

Not so sure about that. Nobody knew the true impact, it is a learning curve for the world. Imagine the headlines if they had not prepared and we had wiped the NHS out and brought the country to a standstill, oh dear, we didn't see that coming, what a bunch of incompetents!

I would say better to be overly prepared than not

I still get the impression a lot of people think its not real. Do they see the people in the hospitals, the survivors and hear their storys

Like i said earlier, when their grandma gets it and snuffs it it may sink in, just
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   Old Thread  #3628 7 Aug 2020 at 3.08am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Futile should be my middle name....
Going back to my earlier post Iím certain it is a divide and conquer scenario we are facing, a supposed vaccine, a biometric health passport, those without both become second class citizens, turning citizen against citizen. Itís happening in China via AI surveillance facial recognition and point scoring for towing the party line etc. Me? Paranoid? Nah I just think everyone is out to get me!
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   Old Thread  #3627 7 Aug 2020 at 2.41am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I think trying to find some logic in it is futile.

I honestly think they don't have a proper plan because it's all reactionary- maybe out of necessity, but reactionary nonetheless. Increasingly it looks like economic decisions are outweighing health ones though.
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   Old Thread  #3626 7 Aug 2020 at 2.25am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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They may have but surely if this ďwasĒ as bad as itís been made out to be, why are the likes of SARS, MERS and the like still on the list? The risk to companies insurance policies pails in to insignificance with whatís happened to the countryís economy on a whole. Read the definition of a HCID.... just what they are telling us COVID-19 is!!
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid
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   Old Thread  #3625 7 Aug 2020 at 2.09am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Perhaps madman ramblings.... but you wouldn't be the first on this thread!

Call me cynical (makes a change from snowflake) but could the downgrading have anything to do with the insurance policies that businesses have and whether or not they were covered for covid?
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   Old Thread  #3624 7 Aug 2020 at 1.59am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Sorry Iíve not read all of the posts but I agree with point one there is something out there but itís been over egged.. even the UK government downgraded CV19 from an highly infectious communicable disease as it didnít fit the criteria ie not infectious enough, death rate too low etc. When did this happen? On the 20th of March 3 days before lockdown!!! So they know itís not as deadly as itís made out but still go ahead and basically close the country down. Why? Iíve no idea, running scared? I now get the feeling they realise they ****ed up but they donít have the balls to come out and admit it, loss of face is a greater fear to them than ruining the country.
As for China, again Iím not sure.. my feeling is that Russia as a hand in it somewhere, Putinís sidekick Surkov and his use of mass confusion in all levels of politics at home and in the geopolitical world seem to be playing out in their favour. His modus operandi is to back both sides of a conflict etc and cause confusion whilst the Russians are able to benefit in some way or another. They did it in Syria with what he coined non linear warfare, do something so random that the enemy has no idea what your next move will be. In his home country they backed both Right wing nazi parties and the anti nazi parties reigning confusion once again.
With CV letís say Russia starts it in China, Trump blames China, leaving 2 global superpowers at odds with each other allowing Russia to stealthily gain ground on them both. Randomly Iran becomes one of the worst affected countries, for no apparent reason... again going back to the use of mass confusion, Iranians would blame the US for sanctions etc, even though maybe Russia was just sacrificing an ally to hide itís tracks. The real reason behind Russiaís involvement in both US and UK elections and Brexit have yet to be seen fully but Iím sure old Ivan is waiting in the wings to pounce. And finally who studied and worked in Russia for 3 years under the tutorage of Surkov... A certain Dominic Cummings!
Late night ramblings of a madman? Maybe, or maybe not 😉
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   Old Thread  #3623 6 Aug 2020 at 10.35am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Just to clarify, other studies have shown that after correction there was still an abnormality in the figures but that could be down to small cohorts or certain co-morbidities or the lack of comprehensive testing to get an accurate picture. As usual, read the small print, experts are often cautious rather than being certain!
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   Old Thread  #3622 6 Aug 2020 at 10.26am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It's what I heard on the news some reports saying ethnicity does play a part, others saying it doesn't and is poverty related. As you say further clarity needed.
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   Old Thread  #3621 6 Aug 2020 at 10.20am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/uknews/12319396/preston-lockdown-coronavirus-cases-rise-nightclub-open/?utm_medium=browser_notifications&utm_source=pushly

of course...

stupid, selfish, incompetent... apply to whichever involved parties you like on this one.


but luckily, it's going to 'go away' like a thing that 'goes away' .....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SouWfaWmJc - relax everyone
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   Old Thread  #3620 6 Aug 2020 at 10.13am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I don't think someone of authority did say that. The figures of infection were disproportionate so require further clarity.
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