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In reply to Post #2220
I hope LadyB feels better soon.
Questioning the government over decisions made in March is just as important now as it will be at any future enquiry. If criticism caused the move away from herd immunity then there was time to save lives.
A slightly unkind analogy but nobody should have to wait years to find out whether Wayne was simply trolling all this time or that he fell into a YouTube algorithm that has confirmation-biased him into the Dunning Kruger effect poster boy.
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#2221 3 May 2020 at 10.26pm | | |
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In reply to Post #2219
You used hyperbole in a rant against it. A silly exaggeration, whatever you want to call. You’ve argued against yourself.
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#2220 3 May 2020 at 10.25pm | | |
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In reply to Post #2218
Edited
Have decided to remove my post
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#2219 3 May 2020 at 10.00pm | | |
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In reply to Post #2218
Hi 906,
The point I was making was that, conformation bias increases the more radical and indoctrinated an opinion is held and that, the more radical the opinion, the less likely those that hold it will respond to reason, and I used Isis as an extreme example of confirmation bias elevating into fanatical indoctrination.
BB.
Edit.
I haven't got a problem with constructive criticism, far from it, and all I suggest is that, if an opinion is meant to be taken seriously, then keep it real without overstatement and silly exaggeration.
If a post is meant as tongue in cheek and banter, then that's fine, but that's a different thing altogether.
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#2218 3 May 2020 at 9.20pm | | |
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In reply to Post #2215
We can criticise the government without hindsight? Then when this is all over we can learn from our mistakes?
So using hindsight is okay once it is all over and there is no chance to save lives?
And BB, talking about hyperbole straight after mentioning reasoning with ISIS?
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#2217 3 May 2020 at 9.10pm | | |
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In reply to Post #2213
Jon, seeing as you continue to name call against me where you think I’m a halfwit, that’s fine! I think your a pompous ****.......  
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#2216 3 May 2020 at 9.02pm | | |
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Hi Jon Boy,
Nothing like using ' invention ' to make a point to suit your narrative eh?
You know full well that I didn't refer to your assertion that Johnson was lazy as a" torrent of abuse."
I actually said that, of all the pejoratives that you use and could use, I thought " lazy " was rather ineffective.
Not the same at all is it? not remotely so.
Perhaps, because it was way back down the thread, you thought you could get away with it.
You also, then use the same disingenuous statement to imply that I used the same hyperbole that I had criticized earlier, in order to paint me as a hypocrite.
I wouldn't call that constructive criticism and leave it for others to decide what they would call it.
BB.
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#2215 3 May 2020 at 8.55pm | | |
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You or anybody else can criticise the government Jon but maybe without the hindsight? We're not the only country to get caught out so lets wait until this is all over and then we can learn from our mistakes, being negative is one thing, some people are naturally like that but to score political points is not the time and some people person only comes on here to do that and nothing else.
In my opinion of course 
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#2214 3 May 2020 at 7.50pm | | |
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In reply to Post #2213
Is the hyperbole the next level up for American football champions?
Thankyou, I'm here all week...
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#2213 3 May 2020 at 7.45pm | | |
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Wayne, do you have a dump in the middle of the kitchen floor and then, when your Mrs questions you, stroke your chin and say that you're 'simply questioning the pre-conceived ideas of room usage propagated by the MSM'?
You may think your policy has served you well through the years, but it's made me think you're a halfwit, and I don't suppose I'm the only one.
I await BB's performance outrage and pearl clutching 'Wayne, he insults us all in such a manner as he has no means of communicating without abuse ..' Irony knows no bounds when the bloke who describes Johnson being called 'lazy' as 'a torrent of abuse' uses the word 'hyperbole' in every post.
Don't worry Bob, I haven't even criticised the government ... they've done really well with the testing. Bit like a bloke wandering round the burned out smouldering shell of his house and announcing 'Ok, we've just installed a great sprinkler system ...'
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#2212 3 May 2020 at 7.25pm | | |
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In reply to Post #2206
It certainly is.......  
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#2211 3 May 2020 at 5.48pm | | |
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Fair play Bob, there not my entire views I will have you know! I like to stir the pot with things like this and don’t dismiss ANY point of view of the world today......keeping an open mind to all stories / conspiracies / media has served me well through the years and long may it continue that way!..... 
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#2210 3 May 2020 at 4.02pm | | |
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So Andrew Marr the Marxist who always appears to give the left an easier time is now being attacked for not asking a question of the right 😀 FFS testing is getting done and whether people order home test kits and don’t use them is not the governments fault, they have supplied the tests.
A rough scan of the papers this morning showed in my view that care homes are now yesterday’s news as PPE was before that and this week will all be about the relaxation of the shutdown without any real evidence. It will start with anonymous sources then onto same sources having seen emails to leaked emails and then Boris giving a statement. The week after it will be about the possible increases and spreading of CV and possibly even greater fatalities and the week after that will be will the NHS cope/PPE/carehomes.
Anyway I’m off to listen to the great lizard known as David Icke, you gotta love a conspiracy theory however proposterous
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#2208 3 May 2020 at 3.34pm | | |
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In reply to Post #2197
Hi 906,
I agree with Sir B's reply to you and his final sentence is a neat precis of the gist of my last post, where I pointed out that, whilst a damage limitation exercise is in operation, judgements are only being made with criticisms of actions, or omissions that are being considered as being less than the ideal response. You are damned if you do and damned if you don't.
It is almost impossible to be completely impartial and the level of confirmation bias is very much dependent on honesty and how much a person is self aware and the more radical a view, the more the bias. For example, try reasoning with Isis.
Radical views and hyperbole seem to have decreased on the thread, perhaps as a result of criticism, but still appear, as in the suggestion that the government have been issuing a constant barrage of lies. Anyone with an impartial view would obviously see this as a gross exaggeration of governmental intentions.
It needs to be realised that, hyperbole statements don't reinforce an opinion, they diminish it, because they are literally untrue and only register disbelief and lack of credibility.
And as Sir B pointed out, they have been a constant on this thread and have become really boring.
The bottom line is, if you want to make a judgemental statement, keep it real if you want to be taken seriously.
BB.
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