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   Old Thread  #3954 15 Sept 2020 at 1.59pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
There have been a number of very obvious and clear factors that have increased the risk of the spread lately - businesses restarting, schools, colleges and universities starting, the eat out to help out scheme. ..

And it seems no moves to prepare for the increase in testing that would be needed to cope with this if evidence is to be believed.

That's just poor planning.

Knock on effects of kids having to be sent home to isolate - other kids in their bubbles having to do the same, parents and carers having to get tested and stay off work... it's all very messy right now and there's a lack of joined up thinking being displayed.

Cases are rising and projections have us looking to follow the patterns in France as an example - so expect more restrictions as a probable rather than a possible.
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   Old Thread  #3953 15 Sept 2020 at 1.51pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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where the outcome could hamper generations Or could improve them.

Where would we be if no one ever took a chance or opportunity because something 'could' go wrong.
It 'could' be that things will get worse to begin with but turn out better in the end.
It 'could' be a disaster but the decision has been made now and only time will tell.
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   Old Thread  #3952 15 Sept 2020 at 11.43am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Personally I donít think the public were well enough informed to make a decision of that magnitude, where the outcome could hamper generations

Exactly that for me. A critical decision like that based around virtually nothing. Think i will stick

Sorry, conditioned a lot of the nation into thinking we would get rid of all these bloody immigrants pinching our jobs
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   Old Thread  #3951 15 Sept 2020 at 11.39am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hopefully they get tests, seemingly there isnít any left anywhere.

Cant get tests, not good

Businesses all over the country in limbo. do we shutdown or continue to run
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   Old Thread  #3950 15 Sept 2020 at 9.22am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I voted labour. On the basis of long term benefit to the overall population. Especially around tax evasion by the rich. Funnily enough a lot of the Ďnonsenseí measures around taxes and finances are now being serious considered by Rishi to get us out of this economic crisis...whereas when it was a labour idea it would ďonly make it worseĒ 🤷🏻‍♂️ But that is the nature of propaganda isnít it. A large part of my persuasion is based on the environment because I care about it, and I also work in the industry of improving and restoring it.
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   Old Thread  #3949 15 Sept 2020 at 8.28am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yes, people have every right to be pissed off if the government make mistakes.
So did you vote liberal? Who were prepared to ignore a democratic vote and cancel brexit altogether?
Or labour? Who couldnít actually decide where they stood and wether ignoring the first referendum was a good idea or not .
Thatís not a criticism of how youíve voted, because itís your vote to do with as you please.
I never mention brexit, because I didnít vote and have no dog in the fight. Personally I donít think the public were well enough informed to make a decision of that magnitude, where the outcome could hamper generations
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   Old Thread  #3948 15 Sept 2020 at 8.17am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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On another note. Couple sent home from my work yesterday with symptoms. Gone for tests. See what happens today. You can go out but must not exceed groups of 6. In the workplace apparently this does not matter?

Hopefully they get tests, seemingly there isnít any left anywhere. NHS staff canít even get hold of them. Itíll be a pain if they canít as Iím assuming theyíd have to tell everyone to isolate?
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   Old Thread  #3947 15 Sept 2020 at 8.15am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yeah, itís weird how political allegiances works isnít it. Youíre brought up to support a party or itís geographically charged. America is similar for it too.

Best thing is to have none and vote based on what you think is the best overall manifesto to benefit yourself and the country you will be living in. And if all else fails, vote Green Party because if everyone did that then at minimum the environment will be at the forefront of policies instead of an after thought.
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   Old Thread  #3946 15 Sept 2020 at 7.46am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Fair point

How many people vote for one certain party because its bred into them, loads i bet!

To be fair there is only two in the reckoning and when the Liberals came close last time with i guess that was because most people were not happy with the "poplar two" and they were selling something a little different, which then ended up opening the door for the conservatives!!!
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   Old Thread  #3945 15 Sept 2020 at 7.40am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Why not read it , you have just left your foot in your mouth with that comment , when all of the press and media repeat a known lie , you think that is good for democracy , it's not just the mail that was in the wrong , which papers lied daily in favor of corbyn , please show me , which media outlet repeated the lies daily !
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   Old Thread  #3944 15 Sept 2020 at 7.05am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thatís the WHOLE idea of a vote. Individual preference
Only a fool would vote for something that would benefit others and not themselves wouldnít they?


Plenty of people donít look at the bigger picture however. I.e. a friend voted conservative solely because he didnít want his business rates, etc going up as was planned by labour. I understand that. But the same friend didnít like BJ & didnít agree with loads of other stuff in the Tory manifesto.

Hence what I mean that the selfish vote isnít entirely the best way to vote, because it often means you vote for one or two singular things without taking in to account the entire short and long term effects of the manifesto (if they even follow it of course)
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   Old Thread  #3943 15 Sept 2020 at 7.00am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I will tell boris in 3yrs time if Iím not happy with his innings.......
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   Old Thread  #3942 15 Sept 2020 at 6.17am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #3941 15 Sept 2020 at 6.17am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yes thatís how people vote, selfishly to benefit themselves, at the expense of others

Thatís the WHOLE idea of a vote. Individual preference

Only a fool would vote for something that would benefit others and not themselves wouldnít they?

When does a politician lie? When they open their mouths

Reguarding Boris and Corbin. Brexit was a prime example, spouting on both sides and nothing official on paper. Spouting crap to get the votes. What they should do is nail them to their promises then if they donít deliver send the ****s down, **** em. Might stop a load of these idiots coming into politics and just prancing around. If it were a business and you did not make your promises happen you would be down the road, there are no consequences for these clowns

On another note. Couple sent home from my work yesterday with symptoms. Gone for tests. See what happens today. You can go out but must not exceed groups of 6. In the workplace apparently this does not matter?
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   Old Thread  #3940 14 Sept 2020 at 11.57pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yes thatís how people vote, selfishly to benefit themselves, at the expense of others. Personally I donít think itís entirely the best thing to do but I understand why people do it.

shouldnít they also realise that if the person they voted for ****s up and goes back on what they say (especially breaking international law) then they are allowed to criticise and demand better? More so if it isnít the person you voted for in the first place. Well within your right to tell people that they put this person there and itís as much their fault as it is the person in charge. Because it affects their family just as much.

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