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Leaked documents show that hospitals in the North West are at a critical level after the recent upsurge in coronavirus ,
How much are they trying to hide from us !
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#4302 17 Oct 2020 at 6.49pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4301
Sooner or later we are due a crash in house prices as it's been out of control for decades now, there's a fundamental problem when people on average wages cannot afford to buy a house.... History shows us that what has gone up can also come down but don't expect massive drops in value....
https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/5709/housing/market/
TBH if we had a crash in prices and it took say 5 years for it to recover ( this could actually happen with Covid and Brexit and mass unemployment...) then the vast majority of us will not be affected in any bad way. There's a few exceptions obviously. If your selling then the next house you buy will also be reduced so that's not a problem, if your in it for short term profit then you will lose out but then again you knew the risks.
But it's not really a problem at all for the vast majority. 
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#4301 17 Oct 2020 at 10.22am | | |
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In reply to Post #4300
Don't recall saying it was a market crash.
But if £10,000 quid is no worry to you I'll gladly take it off your hands...
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#4300 16 Oct 2020 at 11.11pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4298
So £10,000 is a just couple % fall. Hardly a market crash?
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#4299 16 Oct 2020 at 1.26pm | | |
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They’re just about to raze the Elephant & Castle shopping centre to the ground and gentrify yet another part of London so anywhere in Southwark would be worth a pretty penny or two!
Of course a lot depends on where we go with the dreaded virus but I suspect or hope in a couple of years we’ll all be talking about it in the past tense ( until the next one😩 ) and the recovery will begin in earnest with exponential growth, that’s possibly capitalism’s Achilles heel, growth growth and yet more growth and guess who gets rich? or should I say richer...... The rich of course!😜
You can’t take it with you guys!
Remember that biblical quote that it’s easier to thread a camel through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of god....... and thats coming from an avowed atheist!
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#4298 16 Oct 2020 at 12.57pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4297
Not sure. It's in Southwark I think so probably as much as the average mansion in Blackburn. ...
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#4297 15 Oct 2020 at 11.45pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4296
How much was the original asking price for the flat?
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#4296 15 Oct 2020 at 9.42pm | | |
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Hey fishie. I'm good thanks mate. Hope you and yours are all good too.
I think you've hit the nail on the head with that. Houses in cities and Northern towns will sell at a reduced price and the more rural stuff will be in demand.
My mate accepted an offer on his London flat ages back. It was all put on hold while the lockdown and stuff took over. The same buyer then said they wanted 10 grand off the price to go through with the sale...
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#4295 15 Oct 2020 at 9.31pm | | |
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I always said back in march that the corona virus would end in tiers.....
Ill get my coat 
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#4294 15 Oct 2020 at 8.45pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4292
Mal hope your keeping well😀
Down in deepest Kent the housing market seems to be blooming in our village properties that have been on and off the market for years and not selling now have sold boards up😀my Mrs spoke to an estate agent and he reckons it’s mainly people moving from London and the towns around us 😀
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#4293 14 Oct 2020 at 10.30pm | | |
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#4292 14 Oct 2020 at 7.00pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4291
A closer look at the supposed booming housing market shows a lot of properties reduced by thousands. ..
When so many people are facing unemployment the property market can't be immune
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#4291 14 Oct 2020 at 12.10pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4285
re house prices.
our Govt has tried every trick in the book not to let property crash. our whole economy, banking system relies on it.
I imagine that is still the same.
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#4290 13 Oct 2020 at 10.10pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4289
I'll take that as a no then.  
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#4289 13 Oct 2020 at 9.30pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4284
Yes because they won’t all have it at the same time...
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#4288 13 Oct 2020 at 6.04pm | | |
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Said the other week we need a total shutdown, sounds like this was a recommendation, choose the other option 
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#4287 13 Oct 2020 at 5.52pm | | |
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Bull****.......100,000 infected would have had everyone infected very very quickly immaterial of lockdown...... 
Blame is easy when the lies are flowing from the top......
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#4286 13 Oct 2020 at 1.28pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4277
I recall reading somewhere that the number of infections during the initial wave was probably at or around 100,000 infections a day which is why we had so many deaths, so the figures recently are nowhere near as bad.
That does not mean we don't need to suppress it though to protect the NHS.
It's still the 16-29 year old age group that is fuelling the rise in infections that is spreading into older age groups.
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-regional-heat-maps-reveal-how-covid-19-is-creeping-up-into-older-age-groups-12102505
Sorry but the infected young adults need to accept that people are dying as a consequence of their selfish actions ignoring the simple guidance and precautions required. The same goes for older people doing the same like that SNP politician - she should be sacked already for gross misconduct.
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#4285 13 Oct 2020 at 11.48am | | |
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Yes but just think how much their money could boost the economy if say 1 million die , not to mention the funeral parlors and flower shops and the amount of houses that will be on the market , win win ! as Dominic and Boris would say !
Dominic , remember him , snide cu** sidekick to di** head Boris , the puppet master is keeping his head down !
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#4284 13 Oct 2020 at 11.01am | | |
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In reply to Post #4283
There's over 3 million British people over the age of 80. Does your 1% claim still stand for that demographic?
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#4283 13 Oct 2020 at 8.56am | | |
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Don’t worry everyone, the new three tier lockdown strategy will save us all from a virus that only seriously affects 1% of those that contract it.
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#4282 12 Oct 2020 at 8.00pm | | |
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Woman slammed in the press for stock piling ice cream, raspberry’s and chocolate sauce. Reckon see was planning on isolating for a month of Sunday’s!
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#4281 12 Oct 2020 at 7.48pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4279
Pointless !
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#4280 12 Oct 2020 at 7.38pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4273
It could be because contracting the virus and dying don't necessarily happen in the same 24 hour period...
Not that I'm an expert of course...
Number of cases rises
Number of hospital admissions rises
Number of deaths rises
Oh and mp's pay rises of course
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#4279 12 Oct 2020 at 6.49pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4277
Sensible debate with you is a broken pencil !
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#4278 12 Oct 2020 at 6.30pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4277
It’s all toffee
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#4277 12 Oct 2020 at 5.27pm | | |
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Just because people weren’t tested you think that’s why the deaths was so high....... 
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#4276 12 Oct 2020 at 5.01pm | | |
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Come on Wayne , kinell lad , your worrying me now , check your front door is locked cos i think the village idiot has been playing on your laptop , in case that is not the case , i will make this as easy as possible for you
There wasn't much testing going on then ,we had nearly zero capacity , so, not many positive tests !
loads of testing going on now , so nearly everyone who has it gets tested
come on lad , 
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#4275 12 Oct 2020 at 4.31pm | | |
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I’m not an expert but can see when people are saying 2+2 = bull****!
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#4274 12 Oct 2020 at 4.24pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4273
A rhetorical statement from a self certain COVID-19 expert. Brilliant
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#4273 12 Oct 2020 at 3.56pm | | |
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So cases are are sky high now yet no where near the deaths reported in April.......how does that add up.....quite simply......it doesn’t..... 
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#4272 9 Oct 2020 at 5.04pm | | |
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'Up to you'
Not aimed at you or anyone in particular but that's the problem, everyone gathering their facts and comparisons to suit their beliefs.
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#4271 9 Oct 2020 at 4.19pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4269
Strange comparison and way to look at something. Upto you where you get facts from and comparison's
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#4270 9 Oct 2020 at 3.52pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4269
Statistically you are right in what you're saying
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#4269 9 Oct 2020 at 2.52pm | | |
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So we only go back 5 years to show death rates but have to stretch back to the 1980's to prove levels of unemployment.
Lies, damn lies and statistics! 
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#4268 9 Oct 2020 at 10.47am | | |
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In reply to Post #4266
Probably because it's more relevant to compare yourself to how you've been doing in recent years? Spikes and dips can then be identified and understood.
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#4267 9 Oct 2020 at 10.41am | | |
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In reply to Post #4266
That's because there have been worse or comparable years (Asian Flu 1957, Hong Kong Flu 1968 for example) previous to that but then that wouldn't fit the narrative so they only mention the last 5
EDIT: But then there is this take in the BMJ on the 2018 Flu season LINK
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#4266 9 Oct 2020 at 10.26am | | |
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In reply to Post #4265
Not been on this thread for a while
But i do wonder when they say against the previous 4 years was 5 years ago a bad year? why not state its either the worse year since records began or since whatever the year!
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#4265 9 Oct 2020 at 10.10am | | |
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Again from the ONS. Between February and August 2020, the were 58,000 excess deaths in England/Wales compared to the previous 4 years.
Someone needs to investigate these buses and drivers Wayne, you may be into something, lockdown the buses?
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#4264 9 Oct 2020 at 10.10am | | |
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In reply to Post #4263
Obviously....... 
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#4263 9 Oct 2020 at 10.07am | | |
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Love to know what these guys 'agendas' are, Spanker will know what they are up to 
LINK
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#4262 9 Oct 2020 at 7.51am | | |
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In reply to Post #4261
As you were bin dipper.......
Every news site / Source is sponsored by someones agenda.......Its not exclusive to corps.......
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#4261 9 Oct 2020 at 7.39am | | |
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Ahhhhhh thanks Wayne , thanks for putting me straight on that one , just crack on as normal then ?
But then , have you been on those dodgy corporate sponsored sites again ?? 
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#4260 9 Oct 2020 at 4.49am | | |
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In reply to Post #4259
ONS......government bull**** ain’t it......
48000 on the Death certificate maybe, 28 days within a test.......People midly ill with the CV but have a heart attack, get run over by a bus and its CV.......
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#4259 8 Oct 2020 at 5.20pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4256
Wayne will have a cunning explanation as to why he is right and that's bullshi* or maybe he's seen the light and is having a long shower washing all that egg off his face
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#4258 8 Oct 2020 at 4.32pm | | |
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#4257 8 Oct 2020 at 4.27pm | | |
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Yeah but my mate fat Paul down the Crown the one with the one eyed Jack Russel and the white Astra he said his mrs Linda with the blonde hair and the leggings told him her hairdresser's nipper Archie I think his name is his mate at footy sprained his ankle so bad training they thought it was broke and when he went to the hospital they put covid on the paper probably in invisible ink and he wasn't even dead but I bet they counted him n'all.
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#4256 8 Oct 2020 at 1.43pm | | |
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48,000+ COVID-19 deaths between January and August in England/Wales. 394 influenza deaths in the same period according to the ONS today 
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#4255 8 Oct 2020 at 6.10am | | |
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In reply to Post #4253
Exactly
I was thinking more business like. Should have put that in shouldn’t I.
I think a lot will realise they can manage with a flexible workforce, zero hours contracts. People on site when there are things to make or during busy periods, people at home when not
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#4254 7 Oct 2020 at 10.50pm | | |
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Very good 👍👍
And yeah. Rishi can **** off with his re training bullocks. Creativity thrives in adversity. Maybe he's happy watching reruns of the thin blue line (worst sit com ever) but the rest of us aren't
He can have 80 per cent of my foot up his backside!
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#4253 7 Oct 2020 at 9.46pm | | |
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There you go Chuffy. Adapt or die...🚴 is the Darwinian advice.
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#4252 7 Oct 2020 at 8.14pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4243
I can see that happening. Good luck with that!
Lot of the apprentices where I work are struggling with it. Graduates, all home learning now via online seminars etc
Reckon it will change the way we will work and live for a while Mal, if not forever!
“It’s not the strongest of the species to survive, it’s the ones who are most adaptable to change”
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#4251 7 Oct 2020 at 8.03pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4247
Trawler work in Grimsby, caravan cleaning in Cornwall, spud picking in Hereford. Loads of opportunities to whistle a tune.
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#4250 7 Oct 2020 at 8.02pm | | |
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#4249 7 Oct 2020 at 7.57pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4248
They'll never take me alive tinhead!
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#4248 7 Oct 2020 at 7.40pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4243
Blimey Mal you better pull your finger out or you could get nicked 
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#4247 7 Oct 2020 at 7.36pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4246
LINK
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#4246 7 Oct 2020 at 7.33pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4245
Realpolitik?
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#4245 7 Oct 2020 at 7.31pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4244
Well he can **** right off
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#4244 7 Oct 2020 at 7.26pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4242
Sunak whenever asked about these sectors has said consistently he's done everything in his power but can't guarantee every job. You know what he means... The Norman Tebbit solution🚴
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#4243 7 Oct 2020 at 7.15pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4241
We are under pressure to have all classes set up for virtual school - basically teaching online. There's even talk of criminalising teachers who don't set online work ...
There's another tory vote winner!
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#4242 7 Oct 2020 at 7.13pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4239
Who are all these people out of work that would benefit from such an approach?
Pretty much the entire live events industry for starters
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#4241 7 Oct 2020 at 7.10pm | | |
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Agree
I see Scotland has shut all pubs down from tomorrow, except takeaways
This is the crazy aspect for me of the potential stop start scenarios, what’s the point 
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#4240 7 Oct 2020 at 6.57pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4237
I'm expecting a full lockdown to coincide with school half term...
Less disruption that way. From the directives we are getting at school, it feels like there's something imminent.
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#4239 7 Oct 2020 at 6.44pm | | |
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I don't think that's the proposal in the link Chuffy posted. It's let the ones at low risk crack on. How that would work practically, who knows.
Who are all these people out of work that would benefit from such an approach?
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#4238 7 Oct 2020 at 6.44pm | | |
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It's a balancing act between freedom to do what you want and the economy , but people have to be on board and have a level of trust that this government has sadly lost !
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#4237 7 Oct 2020 at 6.31pm | | |
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I think we are hitting a pinch point, do we or don’t we
I just can’t see it going away. Total country lockdown for one month but unless we close our boarders, pointless
Let people just get on with it, not good, but we are out of options for me
We need to get business running and people back working for me otherwise the outcome could be catastrophic for our country
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#4236 7 Oct 2020 at 5.46pm | | |
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Some sense at last maybe link
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#4235 7 Oct 2020 at 7.48am | | |
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The smell of corruption rears it's ugly head again !
The Irish track and trace system delivered for £773,000
The uk tracking system up to date £12 000 000 000
stink .
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#4234 6 Oct 2020 at 12.25pm | | |
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It’s because in cases as one of my dads clients had, her uncle died of his terminal illness. Tested negative numerous times for covid and the death certificate says his death was covid related.
Scam central.
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#4233 6 Oct 2020 at 9.15am | | |
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Government preparing for winter ,
As we head in to winter watch death statistic manipulation go into overdrive, check out this “Medical Practitioners” guidance on death provisions.
Did you know that the UK Government have removed Form 5 of the Cremation Certificate for deaths relating to Covid-19 under the Coronavirus Act which is the form that the relative who registers the death must be given as it enables them to see and query the death certificate before cremation.
So basically if your loved one dies of or with Covid19 they can have their death certified and cremation certified by the same medical practitioner and sent for cremation within hours and the government have removed your right to see or query that decision before the cremation takes place which in turn removes your right to request a coroners report or second opinion.
Why would they do this? And the removal notice of Form 5 doesn’t explain what the section that’s been removed is actually for. I had to search the internet for older cremation forms to find out what Form 5 was used for. That information was nowhere on the UK Government website.
The order in which the comorbidities are listed determines how the death appears in the statistics and if the patient just happens to test positive without symptoms then it should not be listed in the cause of death at all. Neither “of Covid19” or “with Covid19” should be used at all….. the scam is bigger than you know.
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#4232 6 Oct 2020 at 9.15am | | |
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I know of 4 people at work and a few out of work, all have been tested and had their results back within 24 hours
The incubation period throws a real grey area over it all. My daughters friend, her mother had a test and was positive. Two days later, daughter tested negative. Told her to go back in another 3 days for a retest!
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#4231 6 Oct 2020 at 9.12am | | |
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In reply to Post #4230
That was quick!
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#4230 6 Oct 2020 at 9.07am | | |
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In reply to Post #4229
Four at our place got it now. One tested last night, results this morning
Positive
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#4229 6 Oct 2020 at 8.05am | | |
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£12 Billion on this shambles of a test and trace system , world class ! it's not the NHS , it's their mates at serco !
The circus rolls on
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#4228 6 Oct 2020 at 7.55am | | |
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Operating without adult supervision !
The claim being made by media outlets around the world regarding our governments response to coronavirus ,
All a bit predictable really , at least we have all been alerted to their incompetence and corruption !
We are about to enter the shi*storm phase , keep hold of your pennies .
Any predictions as to what the idiots are going to attempt next ???
Christmas is the big one for them , get that wrong and people might even remember it the next time they vote
Anyone still think they are doing a good job ??
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#4227 6 Oct 2020 at 5.50am | | |
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Use to bath our daughter in Johnson lavender bubble bath when she was a tot, like a drug that Jon, knackered at the time but didn’t half sleep
Is see that ****ing idiot Trump has been on a bit of a parade following his “run in” with the virus
We mentioned it earlier in the thread that if he didn’t get the “full feeling” he would brush it under the carpet
I’m all for his make America great again and get the economy back on track, if I was an American that is, but talk about being an eccentric!
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#4226 5 Oct 2020 at 10.08pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4225
Lavender bath bomb and a frame of pocket billiards?
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#4225 5 Oct 2020 at 9.57pm | | |
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To be fair, the night I slept well I had a full pippet, the other time was a couple of drops, supposed to have it 20 minutes before bed. Worked the first time. I will have to try a full one again and feedback
Trying to lay off the drink Jon, not good for the waist line
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#4224 5 Oct 2020 at 9.27pm | | |
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I thought that was the case. Thc oil and tinctures are often 3 or 4 times the strength of buds
Was picturing you red eyed eating a multipack of Jaffa cakes and your missus coming home off the beat
Personally if i was in your shoes I’d bin the cbd and just have a scotch
Unless it’s legalised or you go somewhere with coffeeshops or dispensaries where you can ask for something weaker you’ll only make an example of yourself and end up on sofa duty
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#4223 5 Oct 2020 at 8.24pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4222
I was trying the oil to get a good nights sleep, not a buzz. Worked once so far
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#4222 5 Oct 2020 at 8.19pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4221
Many years ago when i visited Amsterdam
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#4221 5 Oct 2020 at 8.17pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4220
The legal requirement for the sale of cbd oil in the uk is that it contains no more than 0.2 % thc , as long as it contains less than this then you can drive after consuming !
Hydrogen peroxide in an emergency or a fatty food like pizza if you have a few hours could beat a swab test , but you would have to be a bit of a politician to drive under the influence of thc , i can only just find my bed !
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#4220 5 Oct 2020 at 5.25pm | | |
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Think I will pass on the risks lads
Drink and drug driving has gone though the roof since Covid
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#4219 5 Oct 2020 at 5.11pm | | |
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You can challenge that if you drink hemp seed smoothies every morning as they can’t quantify the amount in your system......so I’m told ......
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#4218 5 Oct 2020 at 12.45pm | | |
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CBD oil has little effect on helping me sleep , i bought it to help stave off infections whilst i was helping someone through chemo ,it knocks my mate out though , after around 1 hour .
the other one guarantees a good nights sleep , thats if you can stop laughing , you have to be so careful regarding doseage , half a grain of rice , also if you get swabbed when the police stop you , you could be over the permitted amount and get a ban ,
so im told 
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#4217 5 Oct 2020 at 8.07am | | |
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In reply to Post #4216
Yes, CBD oil is what we have, just realised, your right
Might as well just smoke the bud, it will be far cheaper
How do you find the sleeping effect G. Works or not?
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#4216 5 Oct 2020 at 7.42am | | |
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Your talking CBD oil with the thc taken out , cannabis oil with the active thc is thick stuff like tar and is around £20 per ml i bought my first bottle of cbd oil around 4 years ago , many good properties in both for your health , a shame big pharma have done all they could to bury it since around the prohibition era in America !
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#4215 4 Oct 2020 at 10.11pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4214
Exactly £90 could get you a lot
We have a bottle mate, not sure if the dosage is right though, my Mrs says it’s a full pippet dropper, I have asked her if this is correct, it’s a yes, I will take her word, far easier
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#4214 4 Oct 2020 at 10.07pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4213
Surely it wasn’t thc mate, you’d have been ****ered.
£90 you’d have a night’s supply of buds, um bongo and chocolate biscuits and still be asleep now
Who gives your missus clean fluids for tests at work 
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#4213 4 Oct 2020 at 9.40pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4212
Not all what it’s made out to be. We have some. Tried it a couple of times, first time I thought i was getting a proper buzz, top lip went up and I started laughing Slept well though! Full dropper
Last night I only had a couple of drops, under the tongue, horrible stuff, tasted like I had eaten a bud lol, i was up at stupid o clock too I had a few beers though, not ideal I suppose
£90 a bottle, probably cheaper to source the real deal
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#4212 4 Oct 2020 at 8.14pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4211
I’d be willing to do my bit my fellow man and take part in human trials, I suppose
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#4211 4 Oct 2020 at 8.08pm | | |
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#4210 3 Oct 2020 at 9.06pm | | |
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Just for you chuffy ,
Private capital tends to become concentrated in few hands… The result of these developments is an oligarchy of private capital the enormous power of which cannot be effectively checked even by a democratically organized political society. This is true since the members of legislative bodies are selected by political parties, largely financed or otherwise influenced by private capitalists who, for all practical purposes, separate the electorate from the legislature. The consequence is that the representatives of the people do not in fact sufficiently protect the interests of the underprivileged sections of the population. Moreover, under existing conditions, private capitalists inevitably control, directly or indirectly, the main sources of information (press, radio, education). It is thus extremely difficult, and indeed in most cases quite impossible, for the individual citizen to come to objective conclusions and to make intelligent use of his political rights.
Albert Einstein
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#4209 3 Oct 2020 at 8.18pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4207
PMSL 
Squeak, squeak
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#4208 3 Oct 2020 at 8.16pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4206
I was looking forward to that, not seen it, on Britbox or something
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#4207 3 Oct 2020 at 8.12pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4205
I reckon when whatever it is crawls off his head it’ll be sent straight to a Chinese wet market and made into soup
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#4206 3 Oct 2020 at 8.08pm | | |
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https://youtu.be/R3o0zY-Xyf0
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#4205 3 Oct 2020 at 8.06pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4204
Max headroom
Reckon they could frame that hair piece
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| | | noj | | Posts: 9784 | | | Social photographer... | |
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#4204 3 Oct 2020 at 7.18pm | | |
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So, if trump pops his clogs in the next few days will his preserved head (a la futurama) be deemed Covid free and able to attend presidential debates?
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#4203 3 Oct 2020 at 6.57pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4200
So Chuffy , what is his agenda , and is the article right or wrong ???
I can understand his zionist ideology , but that's not what we are discussing here is it .
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#4202 3 Oct 2020 at 6.49pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4200
Must admit, I read the link below, and then googled that clowns name, typical journalist, not got a good word for anybody, he was giving the Labour Party some proper cosh earlier in the year, especially Jezza
Neutral bias or just writing **** to sell papers, I think the latter
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#4201 3 Oct 2020 at 6.45pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4200
Well thanks for doing a bit of digging , but keep going !
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#4200 3 Oct 2020 at 6.11pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4193
But if it was right-wing bull**** it would agree with our gov's actions, no, and the fact that you then support an article by someone (Nick Cohen) who has repeatedly supported military action in the Middle East and who The Muslim Council of Britain has described as "being in the vanguard of Islamophobia in this country". We are supposed to take his opinion as being more reliable, yes?
I see
ok
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#4199 3 Oct 2020 at 6.10pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4197
I have never said mine is right, I merely post alternatives to the main stream stories you believe..... 
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#4198 3 Oct 2020 at 6.07pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4196
I meant FB in general, not specifically your links. I’m not a member of the site so either can’t or simply won’t entertain the garbage on there.
If it’s credible news it will generally be covered by enough digital and traditional professional news outlets so I can read the story from various angles and make up my own mind.
Facebook as I said is for little girls, social conditioning and advertising
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#4197 3 Oct 2020 at 6.02pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4195
Ok Wayne tell me why my last post is wrong , give me a decent reason to treat you seriously , why is my ideology wrong and yours right !
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#4196 3 Oct 2020 at 5.57pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4194
Come on noj your sinking to the depths where Wayne can be found lurking now , please point out my dodgy nonce sources !
Why not try to criticize the content of them instead of pathetic comments ???
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#4195 3 Oct 2020 at 5.45pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4193
No alarm bells I can hear from your take on it all.......it’s funny spanky as we both know / suspect corruption etc but mine is all a conspiracy version and yours is factual.......
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#4194 3 Oct 2020 at 5.39pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4193
2/3 of your links are for Facebook pages.. are we now viewing a site for teenage girls and nonces as a trustworthy news source?
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#4193 3 Oct 2020 at 5.34pm | | |
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Chuffy , Wayne etc
Check your news sources , or bullshi* sources , they will be linked back to right wing million , billionaires who have an agenda and pay vast sums of money to manipulate people like you , Sweden and other Nordic countries have taken steps against this type of manipulation , its even taught in schools and so they have the least corrupt political system which in turn results in people listening and trusting the majority of what their leaders tell them .
So to sum it up , you've had your pants pulled down , it's not too late lads , if you have netflix watch the "social dilema " from the mouths of the people who did it , straight from their moosh , as Wayne would say !
In fact , it's becoming soooooo obvious even you Wayne must have some alarm bells going off !
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#4192 3 Oct 2020 at 5.14pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4191
No I didn’t mean mush, I meant moosh.......
Can’t watch any links, unbelievable within The first minute.....
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#4191 3 Oct 2020 at 5.10pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4190
Moosh , think you need to look that one up i take it you meant mush !
Sweden can not be compared to the UK for many reasons , post 4186 will blow your narrow minded ideology apart !
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#4190 3 Oct 2020 at 4.47pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4188
I have Geeki ......usually on this thread, on this forum........Very very rare to my moosh though......
Good to see the lies unraveling with this Covid bollox though........
Get well soon DT......
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#4189 3 Oct 2020 at 4.40pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4187
Kids books for wayne?
The gruffalo-adofb***ocks?
The very deluded caterpillar?
The twit (s) ?
The tiger who came to spread misinformation via non mainstream media platforms?
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#4188 3 Oct 2020 at 3.45pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4183
I’m sure you’ve been called worse but if you let me know your address I’ll get some tissues sent over to dry them tears up
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#4187 3 Oct 2020 at 3.00pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4186
Unless you've got that in an 8 page board book with fluff and velcro, Wayne's not going to pay any attention....
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#4186 3 Oct 2020 at 2.18pm | | |
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#4185 3 Oct 2020 at 1.40pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4184
Surprise surprise chuffy..........Thats normally the case with Flu.......
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#4184 3 Oct 2020 at 1.34pm | | |
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#4183 3 Oct 2020 at 1.34pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4178
Greeki, why the name calling.........you lot get so triggered and have to start name calling at the first chance like school kids.......
Mal - you have to take most things in this thread with a pinch of salt......me going fishing in lockdown was one of them.........
as for the teenagers and 20 somthings, plenty were mingling.......
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#4182 3 Oct 2020 at 11.44am | | |
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In reply to Post #4181
Doesn't like to get his hands dirty.
I'm surprised he didn't call in the national guard to cut it up for him
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#4181 3 Oct 2020 at 11.41am | | |
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Doesn’t excuse the cutlery though. Even the bloody spork they provide is just ornamental isn’t it?
I thought the beans were just a drink?
Evolution gave chickens bones in the right place to hold for consumption, because it doesn’t mention southern fried wings or thighs in the book of Genesis
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#4180 3 Oct 2020 at 11.33am | | |
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In reply to Post #4177
Yeah...
Thing is you posted regularly on here about how you were ignoring the restrictions to go fishing so....
Let's call it a fair assumption eh?
Unless your Trump filter is set to absolute denial of what you did just like the man himself of course...
Yes you saw some teenagers hanging about. But surely you're not the type to judge a whole section of society on the actions of a minority.
As for Trump and the kfc - maybe he figured that chlorine is like bleach so he's on a covid battling health kick?
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#4179 3 Oct 2020 at 11.25am | | |
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In reply to Post #4165
Assumption.... glad to see you joining in the fun
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#4178 3 Oct 2020 at 11.24am | | |
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In reply to Post #4177
Main assumption I made was way back when I assumed you were a pillock...turns out my assumption was correct on that one.
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#4177 3 Oct 2020 at 11.18am | | |
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In reply to Post #4175
Your assuming I ignored it, are you and Greeki related.....pure assumptions post after post.....
I know lots of teenagers were still mixing as I saw it with my own eyes everywhere I went.......same as now!
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#4176 3 Oct 2020 at 11.13am | | |
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In reply to Post #4172
WTF, way out of order, poof
Probably avoiding greasy fingers in the Barnet / ferret or whatever it is
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#4175 3 Oct 2020 at 10.48am | | |
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In reply to Post #4174
The lock down did apply to teenagers and 20 somethings
Schools were closed first. That's where most teenagers spend most of their day.
Assuming everyone ignored it like you is probably not your best point of argument there.
It's not flu. It's more serious. If we hadn't locked down figures would be higher. If we'd locked down sooner or more effectively they'd likely be less.
It is apparent that figures are being manipulated up and down in different countries, regions, industries etc for a set of different agendas. We shouldn't be surprised but we should be questioning.
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#4174 3 Oct 2020 at 10.36am | | |
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In reply to Post #4171
Any year......Lockdown didn’t apply to teenagers or 20 somethings then as they were all still meeting up and the same applies now.......just like Flu as has been said since the beginning by the conspiracy theorists.....
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#4173 3 Oct 2020 at 10.31am | | |
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In reply to Post #4172
He should be impeached immediately
Imagine the fury at blm HQ
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#4172 3 Oct 2020 at 10.30am | | |
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While having a morning browse of opposing media outlets, I came across a disturbing image... trump eats kfc with a knife and bloody fork
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#4171 3 Oct 2020 at 10.22am | | |
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In reply to Post #4170
Which of those last five years is a like for like comparison considering the measures taken in late March to prevent the spread of the disease?
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#4170 3 Oct 2020 at 10.19am | | |
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In reply to Post #4169
Last 5 years......
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#4169 3 Oct 2020 at 9.55am | | |
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In reply to Post #4165
Compared with which other years Wayne, all the ones where a huge amount of the population stayed at home for a few months?
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#4168 3 Oct 2020 at 8.39am | | |
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Both my nephews have returned to uni , one is not a happy bunny , quarantined along with many others as his flat mate is positive , everything is on line for him ,
All his Tory mates are now seeing the light , as soon as they can they are having a "fu** Boris " party , result !
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#4167 3 Oct 2020 at 8.34am | | |
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From somebody who works in a hospital and sits on a panel that discuss things in that hospital on a weekly basis ,
this is what they told me ,
In the last week there was 5 deaths on the covid ward , none were listed as covid 19 related but all 5 were positive !
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#4166 3 Oct 2020 at 8.01am | | |
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In reply to Post #4165
I will take your word for that. Cant say i have looked into it. I will say one thing though, as honesty goes, i would expect us to be near the top with the reporting, i mean, Russia, China...
The only thing I am concerned about at the moment is that my family or myself do not get infected, not good, at all
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#4165 3 Oct 2020 at 7.39am | | |
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In reply to Post #4164
Thats good.....
So after the excess deaths have been counted up and then loads which are incorrect removed from the stats it would appear this is not much worse than a very bad Flu year.......
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#4164 3 Oct 2020 at 7.16am | | |
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In reply to Post #4163
Yes, they had symptoms. I will reword it Wayne, from booking the test they were in and tested within 24 hours so when people were saying getting a test is impossible, not so our way
I will say one thing, it causes just total confusion for people. 5 day incubation period, do I come to work or not, crackers!
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#4163 3 Oct 2020 at 7.11am | | |
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In reply to Post #4162
Were they really though Scozza..........
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#4162 3 Oct 2020 at 6.13am | | |
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In reply to Post #4158
I was thinking that when I saw him on the news this morning.
On another note. I know 3 people who have Covid now, all got tested within 24 hours
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#4161 2 Oct 2020 at 10.31pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4158
Or not.
Getting choppered to hospital in reports.
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#4160 2 Oct 2020 at 10.27pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4159
If thats true then its shocking
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#4159 2 Oct 2020 at 10.20pm | | |
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OK. ... so I've been told this one today. No idea if true but the person who told me had no reason to lie...
3 different people in Bolton signed up for tests. One just didn't go one went but couldn't be bothered waiting in the big queue. The third had a poorly kid (not covid) so didn't go.
3 people. No test carried out.
All 3 received messages saying they had tested positive.
Bolton closed down due to the high number of positive cases. But if this is true then wtf?
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#4158 2 Oct 2020 at 9.41pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4157
He'll get through it without a problem and say told you so, this virus is overrated
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#4157 2 Oct 2020 at 8.56pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4154
Odds on it’s the Russians
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#4156 2 Oct 2020 at 6.45pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4154
If you'll give me decent odds on Obama I'll take that....
Call me cynical but he wouldn't just be faking it for effect would he?
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#4155 2 Oct 2020 at 9.50am | | |
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In reply to Post #4153
his vitamin D and hydroxychloroquine obviously didn't work, wonder if he's got a uv light down his throat and downing shots of bleach
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#4154 2 Oct 2020 at 9.12am | | |
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In reply to Post #4150
Odds for a trump tweet blaming someone;
Biden - EVS
China because he banned tiktok - 3/1
ANTIFA - 6/1
Hilary Clinton - 25/1
5g - 45/1
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#4153 2 Oct 2020 at 8.45am | | |
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In reply to Post #4152
Never ever said it’s a fake virus......
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#4152 2 Oct 2020 at 8.16am | | |
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I wonder what Wayne makes of Trump testing positive for the fake virus?
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#4151 2 Oct 2020 at 8.09am | | |
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In reply to Post #4148
Apprentice who works for a company that contracts to us sent home from site on Tuesday with symptoms, stupid **** went to Manchester at the weekend to see his mates...at Uni ffs
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#4150 2 Oct 2020 at 8.07am | | |
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In reply to Post #4146
Just awaiting the “Biden gave it to me” tweet now.
Neither would that
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#4149 2 Oct 2020 at 8.06am | | |
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In reply to Post #4147
Wouldn't surprise me that Jon
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#4148 2 Oct 2020 at 7.15am | | |
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And the pubs are open again in Bolton , lets pray for a ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,fitting outcome for Mr Trump , get the bleach out !
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#4147 2 Oct 2020 at 7.06am | | |
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I can see it now. All conquering American hero squeezed into a military flight jacket emerges from kung flu arse whooping into another term..
He’s laughing all the way to the White House
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#4146 2 Oct 2020 at 6.51am | | |
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In reply to Post #4145
Just awaiting the “Biden gave it to me” tweet now.
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#4145 2 Oct 2020 at 6.22am | | |
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Mr and Mrs Trump both test positive!
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#4144 1 Oct 2020 at 5.05pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4142
**** me Chuffy that was hard work. Make no wonder Ocelot liked it, what a boring ****
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#4143 1 Oct 2020 at 11.38am | | |
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In reply to Post #4142
I watched his performance the other day, fair play trying to hold the government to account. 
Or should he stop moaning and thank **** he's not in Peru
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#4142 30 Sept 2020 at 9.03pm | | |
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#4141 30 Sept 2020 at 7.23am | | |
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In reply to Post #4133
You can see now why they had to silence David Icke so early on in the proceedings
oops sorry, wrong thread
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#4140 28 Sept 2020 at 8.02am | | |
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That's good Mal, maybe now you'll stop spot spouting crap
Have a good day sir
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#4139 27 Sept 2020 at 11.34pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4137
Good advice that tinhead
Had a lovely evening with good food thankyou
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#4138 27 Sept 2020 at 6.13pm | | |
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#4137 27 Sept 2020 at 6.08pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4136
Lockdown permitted you should get out more 
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#4136 27 Sept 2020 at 5.44pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4135
I did think I was starting to sound like a conspiracy nutter....
Have you heard the theory that Q anon is actually a government department in Solihull who are tasked with heightening civil disquiet through internet disinformation....?
That's one of my favourites
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#4135 27 Sept 2020 at 5.13pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4133
All about control........
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#4134 27 Sept 2020 at 3.43pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4133
That, or they have given themselves free reign to install 5g masts every mile or so while the search for an anti-radiation vaccination goes on at Bill’s house
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#4133 27 Sept 2020 at 3.14pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4132
A cynic might look at all of this and think...
They've got the old folk scared and locked in.
They've got the 18-24 year olds locked in halls of residence.
They've got the North under lockdowns
They've got Wales almost under total control
They've got the low earners stuck in their garden less homes
They got the office workers comfy at home in a false sense of security
They got the self employed on the breadline
They've got the employed dependent on handouts
They've got the arts silenced (too many subversives)
They've got everyone inside by 10.30
Now that everyone is so fed up, they can offer the slightest reward, the tiniest carrot, Christmas with 8 people, 1000 fans at a football match, the pub open until 10.30..... and they'll be forgiven for all the f ups, the shambles of brexit, the education system in disarray, the droves of nurses leaving the profession.
And while everyone is looking the other way they can push through more powers for the police (stop and search powers being expanded imminently), break international law, screw over the Irish, bring in more right wing policy, give contracts to friends and advisors....
Good job I'm not cynical isn't it?
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#4132 27 Sept 2020 at 2.38pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4131
Certainly looking like unis wanting their fees, landlords wanting their rents, and govt wanting someone to blame this month's ****-up on.
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#4131 27 Sept 2020 at 12.54pm | | |
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Police emptying bars and restaurants at 10pm lol
Eat out to help out on minute, get out the next
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#4130 27 Sept 2020 at 12.46pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4128
Well said
Take away the universitys and most cities would be nothing much
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#4129 27 Sept 2020 at 11.30am | | |
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In reply to Post #4128
Agreed.
The big universities have encouraged thousands of young adults to travel from their homes - regardless of where that might be, (high risk areas or not) to fill up halls of residence for financial reasons. Nine grand (minimum) a year per student in fees. Plus the rent being charged for accommodation. And most classes being taught online....
I was listening to two students at Manchester Met on the radio last night and they were effectively locked in with no proper support, security refusing to come into the building to sort out idiots, two week lockdown with no system sorted for them to even get food apart from delivery with no slots available. They'd been actively encouraged to return when they could easily have accessed their lectures from home. All down to the higher education sector needing their money.
I'm not saying that the universities are all bad, just that they are businesses who need the students and the income they generate to survive. Same as your big stores or pub food chain.
Again, poor planning for something that was a known upcoming high risk factor. The financial aspect overrides the health aspect. That's the daily decision being faced in every area right now. Blaming one set of people - in this case, the students - just isn't fair or intelligent. It's easy and lazy finger pointing.
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#4128 27 Sept 2020 at 9.40am | | |
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Idiots take all forms. My nephew has been working from home since March. Been back in the office for 2 weeks, tested positive yesterday for Covid-19.
There was a program on Sheffield Hallam Uni the other day. 35 years ago the was 46,000 steel workers in the city and 5,000 students. 2020 there's 60,000 students and 5,000 steel workers. These uni cities can't survive without students arriving. So why the **** weren't universities given staggered start times with mobile testing centers at the University? Numbers like 60,000 arriving from all over the world into a cramped environment without testing is a joke. To blame just the students is wrong in my view.
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#4127 26 Sept 2020 at 7.00pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4126
Trouble is the idiots don't just bring it on themselves but on everyone else who has to live and work there. From other students through to teaching staff, admin staff, the cleaners who have to do double shifts to manage the extra covid requirements ....
A microcosm for society over the last 6th months. A small number of idiots who think they know better selfishly messing thing up for everyone else.
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#4126 26 Sept 2020 at 6.15pm | | |
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Panic buying again? Stupid idiots...
While the subject is on idiots I'd like to say to every stupid young adult in uni that's now locked down due them going out partying and ignoring guidance that they have nobody to blame but themselves for contracting Covid and stop moaning about how stressed you are..... they brought this on themselves and now they can live with the consequences of their actions. Time to grow up.....
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#4125 26 Sept 2020 at 2.58pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4124
My daughter works there, last week, one woman 29 packs!!!
I hope the world drops out of her arse, greedy ****
It’s all on the up. You watch, people will be back to panick buying again soon and the shelves will be empty
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#4124 26 Sept 2020 at 2.50pm | | |
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Missus went to Tesco's today and they've run out of toilet rolls
What's wrong with people 
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#4123 26 Sept 2020 at 2.17pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4122
The kids at school are mad for it. I asked them what they watch so we could discuss how different actors approach character..
'Youtube sir' .... KSI , logan paul ... and now it's famous 'tiktok-ers'...
When the revolution comes it won't be televised - it will be recorded in 30 second bites on Apple phones....
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#4122 26 Sept 2020 at 12.25pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4120
Exactly. You've got to pump out alot of unique content that appeals to certain demographics to make money. Not easy when there's so much news available. Being deliberately controversial is a route many take.
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#4121 26 Sept 2020 at 8.00am | | |
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In reply to Post #4120
I don't think carp vlogging is the best route to a fortune
Better ask that Greg Ellis bloke, he may be good for a grand in 20 years time
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#4120 25 Sept 2020 at 7.45pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4118
Well found this
As a benchmark, you can expect to make around $1.50 per 1,000 views (about £1.10 per 1,000 views, at the time of writing). This means that one million views equals $1500... or around £1,100 to us British folk.
I don't think carp vlogging is the best route to a fortune
That kid Ryan and his family though are minted!
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#4119 25 Sept 2020 at 4.50pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4115
but because it's on YouTube it must be ********, really?
I don't think this is the case, but you can't deny that if it's on Youtube it might be ****.
There is no editorial control, no comeback, and no real scrutiny of what people put up. The 'main stream media' are duty bound to carry out these controls. Excluding them as a source of news seems a bit odd.
Separating the wheat from the chaff on YT is hard work, and not something everyone has the time or inclination to do, so you either watch stuff you agree with, or dismiss opposing views as cobblers. I'd give much more consideration to an opposing point of view, whatever the subject, if I saw it on Newsnight, for example, rather than YT because I would assume that Newsnight journalists have done some work to make sure it's someone worth listening to.
Btw, doctors aren't infallible. It was Dr Andrew Wakefield who kicked off the whole anti-vax MMR thing.
As far as incomes go, didn't the bloke shocked by the low number of under 20s dying etc etc have a 'Go Fund Me' banner at the bottom while he was prattling on?
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#4118 25 Sept 2020 at 4.23pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4117
Fair enough, how do you build those millions of hits might be a better question. Mr Stunning Burfield Common has about 45k views on youtube of his capture. Not worth a ****?
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#4117 25 Sept 2020 at 4.22pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4116
Not sure but you have to have millions of hits to make any real money out of it I think
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#4116 25 Sept 2020 at 4.03pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4115
How does Youtube work with regards to income from your channel?
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#4115 25 Sept 2020 at 3.58pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4113
That's another thing I should have added to my earlier post about the divisions, its seems you can also have a totally rational person analysing the situation (and there are many including many Doctors) using available facts and figures to point out the bleeding obvious (to some) but because it's on YouTube it must be ********, really?
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#4114 25 Sept 2020 at 3.53pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4112
Wherever you get your news, whatever your view of covid-19 is your business mate.
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#4113 25 Sept 2020 at 3.02pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4112
The bloke I was referring to was the man in the video, not you
Are you convinced it's entirely healthy to just get info from Youtube and the likes?
It's the digital age equivalent of refusing to read newspapers and getting all your information from what's written on bus shelters and toilet doors a few years ago.
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#4112 25 Sept 2020 at 2.48pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4111
The laugh is on you as I watched it on the link I posted which is Youtube
I dont give the BBC, ITV, SKY NEWS and the rest the time of day.
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#4111 25 Sept 2020 at 1.46pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4109
Hang on a minute .... the bloke banging on about info not being given air time by 'the BBC, ITV, SKY News etc.' talking about something broadcast on ....... SKY News
Why is he so obsessed with the incredibly low number of under-20s dying? No one ever said they were in danger.
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#4110 25 Sept 2020 at 1.34pm | | |
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Dr Robert Redfield, Director of CDC in the USA told a senate hearing on Wednesday that even after 200,000 US deaths linked to covid-19, 90% of Americans are still suspectable to the virus. You do the math.
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#4109 25 Sept 2020 at 1.21pm | | |
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WHAT!
As said on Sky News yesterday only 7% testing success rate! (said by the Home Secretary).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAqJleUHQfk&t=37s
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#4108 25 Sept 2020 at 10.52am | | |
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In reply to Post #4104
You well know that the government gets lots of different scientific advice. They choose which advice they follow then call it following the science.
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#4107 25 Sept 2020 at 10.41am | | |
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In reply to Post #4105
The point of the age differential in severe and quite often deadly cases of covid-19 is obviously valid and well known. The issue is what do you do about it without a vaccine? The only game in town, was and still is test the granny out of it, with an effective and rapid track and trace system, if we wanted to open society and business up fully for all. We haven't been able to do that despite all the hyperbolic cobbler's from the government. I'm not a fan of locking millions of British people away indefinitely so the rest can crack on. But I can understand others views that are suffering financially or in other ways that might want to go down that route.
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#4106 25 Sept 2020 at 9.54am | | |
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In reply to Post #4105
It does seem that there has been a divide created now. You either have to be a full on Covid-head, accepting everything that is thrown at you however ridiculous, while hiding under the stairs in a deep sea diving suit, bleaching your shopping etc etc and if you are not that then you MUST BE a conspiracy theorist, the virus is a hoax, 5G blah blah blah.
Well what about the middle ground, you know, yes the virus is real we know that but all this has been a massive over reaction (thanks again Ferguson, he's gone quiet hasn't he) that has ****ed up the entire economy when all that really needed to be done was shield the vulnerable while the rest get on with it, there are a huge swathe of the population who fit into that category but mainly the two extremes are all you get force fed. Unfortunately, no government has got the balls to admit they may have got it wrong, it's too late now. In fact the governments initial response was actually probably the sensible one but they panicked.
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#4105 25 Sept 2020 at 9.40am | | |
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I am not saying anything about a conspiracy, or suggesting one, rather suggesting the country is in panic and the media is helping causing that panic.
I was trying to make clear the true and correct death figures and the ages of those people that have died, and are dying and the very large number of them already had a health condition (my mother-in-law was one of them). Not what I think but the figures of the Office for National Statistics
This is still being called a pandemic, people cant go to work, people are loosing their jobs, businesses are going out of business (more job losses) no entrainment outside your home, some have not been out since March! (and you cant get the virus before 10pm in a pub....really!)
However when on average 450 a day die of a heart attack in the UK it kind of puts the death rate of the virus very small and last weeks death rate of 1% is tiny.
More people per week will die this winter from flu and most of the deaths will be older than 65 Between 12,000 and 30,000 this winter, yes this winter so again it puts last weeks death rate of the virus at 1% very small.......and the flu wont be called a pandemic!
The government have already borrowed 2 trilling pounds. I have no idea what 2 trilling pounds looks like but I do know it sounds one hell of a lot of money and it has to be paid back.....and paid back by us!
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#4104 25 Sept 2020 at 9.19am | | |
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There are a lot of scientists now becoming more outspoken who don't agree with Laurel and Hardy the gov advisors, even a member of SAGE said the other day that the gov did not ask for any advice on whether the laughable measures they were about to enforce were actually nescecary or would work, which they deemed not BTW, here's a prime example LINK
SAGE Member
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#4103 24 Sept 2020 at 9.46pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4101
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#4102 24 Sept 2020 at 9.46pm | | |
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Early on in the lockdown the BBC were giving the 'official' government figures and the ONS figures with the latter showing higher numbers.
No conspiracy to hide numbers
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#4101 24 Sept 2020 at 8.39pm | | |
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The clearest update to date
link.
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#4100 24 Sept 2020 at 8.30pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4099
I couldn't give a rats arse what you believe mate tbh. You seem to have a point too make but it's getting lost. Just spit it out.
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#4099 24 Sept 2020 at 7.48pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4097
The BBC said it so it must be true lol
The video I posted the guy was using the ONS web site, the offical web site, Office for National Statistics which I would rather believe than the BBC reporters
Parts of the UK including Wales ARE in a lock-down.
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#4098 24 Sept 2020 at 7.44pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4097
It seems that the figures need adjusting again
https://youtu.be/hQ5SUsDSxpY
Summary that only 71% died from and 29% died with over the last couple of months everyone a loss but remember lies, damn lies and statistics!
And who would have thought 18 year olds newly away from home in fresher week would socially distance 😂😂😂
No denier here and will take vaccination but I’m down to my last 3 x 48 packs of loo roll 👍🏻
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#4097 24 Sept 2020 at 7.16pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4096
12 reported covid-19 deaths in the last 24 hours in the NW region according to BBC NW news just on.
England isn't in a lockdown, extra restrictions have been put in place by the government. Ask them.
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#4096 24 Sept 2020 at 7.00pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4095
Really, well I must have missed them on BBC, ITV, SKY News etc etc.
So I ask as to why with last weeks deaths due to the virus was only 1% (thats 99% died not from the virus) why is England gone on another lock down?
Pubs have to close at 10pm. So am I right in thinking you can\could only catch the virus after 10pm in a pub?
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#4095 24 Sept 2020 at 5.36pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4092
Yes I watched it.
It's been widely reported on local news channels every night the amount of deaths per day. I thought that was common knowledge.
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#4094 24 Sept 2020 at 5.16pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4093
Yep , when analyzed the figures do seem strange , the percentage of deaths for those over 80 does shoot up though also the amount of hospital care needed creates problems , thats why they were sacrificed !
Don't expect any rational decisions made by Boris or his puppet master , a populist leader who makes off the cuff decisions , the majority of which go ti** up
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#4093 24 Sept 2020 at 2.58pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4091
Yeah, the hidden facts that are available .... on the NHS website.
Yes they are.
BUT NOT ON THE BBC, ITV, SKY NEWS etc etc.......I would say they hid them and are hiding them.
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#4092 24 Sept 2020 at 2.44pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4090
Did you watch the video because clearly you failed to take in the information given in the video. It is NOT about how many have had the virus or how many have got it. Its about the number of DEATHS, the age groups and if they died of the virus.
Last weeks deaths in England dying of the virus was 1% = 99% of the deaths in England did NOT die of the virus.
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#4091 24 Sept 2020 at 2.00pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4089
Yeah, the hidden facts that are available .... on the NHS website.
He's acting like someone said fit young people die of it. I think most people know it's the pensioners who are at risk.
And he doesn't know what 'median' means.
All in all ... very impressive.
Edit: Are people pleased with Rishi's latest offering?
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#4090 24 Sept 2020 at 1.21pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4087
He conveniently seems to avoid the facts of how many of the 67 million population have actually contracted COVID-19 in his fact laden rant. Quite likely 60 million haven't....
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#4089 24 Sept 2020 at 12.16pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4088
These are the official figures...not what Fred said up the road or wh!at Bob said down the pub!
EDIT
And I add what should be given on the BBC,ITV, SKY NEWS etc
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#4088 24 Sept 2020 at 12.09pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4087
Great, I always find FACTS much more convincing than mere facts.
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#4087 24 Sept 2020 at 12.05pm | | |
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Here in this video are THE FACTS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfv6MmlW_W0
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#4086 24 Sept 2020 at 10.30am | | |
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In reply to Post #4084
It’s just a toryettes flare up, ignore him.. the rest of us try to
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#4085 24 Sept 2020 at 9.17am | | |
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Looks like Vallance has £600,000 of shares in the company procured to produce the UK vaccine...
What do they say about conflicts of interest in civil servants again?
Guy gets richer if he advises us to wait around for it a vaccine. He should removed from his role immediately should he not? He isn’t in a position to advise at all.
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#4084 24 Sept 2020 at 8.43am | | |
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In reply to Post #4082
Wow! I'm stunned I would've never expected you to say something like that, never in a million years.
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#4083 24 Sept 2020 at 8.01am | | |
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In reply to Post #4082
Calm down, calm down
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#4082 24 Sept 2020 at 7.43am | | |
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The Doris club is still alive and well then , it's over lads , he's a coc* , out before Christmas ! wake up ,
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#4081 23 Sept 2020 at 8.47pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4079
Ok let me get in before someone else does and ask.......
Serious question Wayne where's your evidence?
Read this
This is the truth
Don't be fooled
Here's the truth
Read this link
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#4080 23 Sept 2020 at 8.31pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4079
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#4079 23 Sept 2020 at 8.04pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4078
There all out trying to make a living then getting pissed the bin dipping ****s........
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#4078 23 Sept 2020 at 7.42pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4077
I blame all the thick ****s in the north west for not stopping in. Pass me the rifle
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#4077 23 Sept 2020 at 7.23pm | | |
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Well , lets just hope that they have
Ramped up oxygen production and storage to hospitals
Trained more nurses and doctors to treat covid patients , no point just having more beds
Have massively increased stock of ppe
Hoover and Dyson have made thousands of ventilators , hmmm !
etc etc
Bought a sniper rifle and rented somewhere looking over number 10
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#4076 23 Sept 2020 at 12.49pm | | |
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As Sunaks furlough schemes near end of life looks like we're going to the follow the Germans and French with a "Kurzarbeit" replacement. Not a lot of other options available to avoid mass unemployment now the situation is getting worse again.
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#4075 21 Sept 2020 at 8.24am | | |
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In reply to Post #4074
Gt
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#4074 20 Sept 2020 at 10.52pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4070
Sorry Bob , yes they won by 100 runs ish
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#4073 20 Sept 2020 at 10.15pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4071
Admit i did get pissed ,not really into cuddling though , that might be your wet dream , not mine pal , 
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#4072 20 Sept 2020 at 10.09pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4070
He skittled em , he got a six fer ,late in swing and away swing with pace
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#4071 20 Sept 2020 at 10.03pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4070
He doesn't know, he got pissed and cuddled everyone instead
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#4070 20 Sept 2020 at 8.47pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4067
You didn’t say if your nephews team won or lost.
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#4069 20 Sept 2020 at 8.38pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4067
Crikey
Must have looked like a scene from zombie apocalypse
But uglier...
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#4068 20 Sept 2020 at 6.18pm | | |
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The results so far regarding Sweden and it's closest Nordic neighbors suggest that Sweden is fairing worse than Norway Finland and Denmark , but it's far from over , they act responsibly as nation's though and have leaders they can trust in ,a world apart from us in the UK , they had a semi lockdown in Sweden , they had a plan and they stuck to it , not much point having a herd immunity strategy for 2 weeks as we did
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#4067 20 Sept 2020 at 5.16pm | | |
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I went to watch my Nephew play cricket yesterday on the outskirts of Bolton , just outside of the lockdown area where you can still drink , it was bound to happen , the migration of drinkers from Bolton to the closest none lockdown areas , nobody could foresee this ? the landlord did and put on extra beer to claw back some of this years losses !
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#4066 20 Sept 2020 at 3.58pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4064
The deaths per 100,000 of population are still very close between Sweden and the UK. Sweden’s neighbours with similar population density have fared much better and it looks like only 20-30% of the population have had the virus which is a very long way from what would be needed for herd immunity even if that is possible by exposure. Other European countries fared better than Sweden with a lockdown and it is not as if Sweden saved their economy either.
There was a joke going round Stockholm when the social distancing rule was introduced that went along the lines of “2 metres, why so close?”
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#4065 20 Sept 2020 at 3.58pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4061
Does seem easy doesn't it?
You can be my deputy when I'm mayor of that London
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#4064 20 Sept 2020 at 2.39pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4062
Lots of places.....
Approx 6k deaths for a population of 10 -11million with no lockdown seems pretty good to me compared to other countries including us!
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#4063 20 Sept 2020 at 1.15pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4062
Between the lines
Have to agree Mal, it does seem a ridiculous idea when we can’t even organise testing. Practically unenforceable with the manpower at their disposal and only really likely to increase tensions between a nation already at each other’s throats.
Sadiq can **** off too, trying to promote a London wide lockdown. Easy to say when you can earn your crust on your arse at home.
Can see a peasant’s revolt on the horizon
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#4062 20 Sept 2020 at 12.44pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4060
No it hasn’t. Where are you reading this?
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#4061 20 Sept 2020 at 12.20pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4057
The student was wrong.
The pub is allowed to open if it sticks to guidelines but if they do not follow them then they are wrong and must be closed down.
Both should be fined
Seems easy to me
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#4060 20 Sept 2020 at 11.50am | | |
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In reply to Post #4059
Herd immunity seems to have worked To a degree in Sweden?!
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#4059 20 Sept 2020 at 11.42am | | |
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In reply to Post #4058
From what I’ve read herd immunity isn’t going to happen without a vaccine or a huge death toll. And with the anti-vaxxers spreading their nonsense that already difficult task will be near impossible.
As John McDonnell said, ‘We can revive an economy, we cannot resurrect the dead.’
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#4058 20 Sept 2020 at 11.21am | | |
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In reply to Post #4056
I think we have got to the point where most things are going to be pretty pointless
Trillions paid in furlough seem like a complete waste now. A lot of ignorant ****s have simply not taken this serious enough and now we are bringing out tough fines, should have been at the start for me.
Heard immunity is the one for me. Protect the vulnerable and let everybody else crack on otherwise we will just be going round and round for years! Protect the economy, priority number 1, take a hit, let the idiots get on with it. Let’s get people back to work.
And even after this, let’s not forget visitors to our shores. 2 week quarantine for all, has to be, otherwise unless we get a vaccine it will certainly float around for years!
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#4057 20 Sept 2020 at 11.10am | | |
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In reply to Post #4056
Was it the fun boy 3 who said the lunatics have taken over the asylum...?
There will be so many people who, as you say, will be forced to carry on working because they can't afford not to. And the great plan? Give them a whopping fine if they break the rules.
There was a student who got a big fine a couple of weeks back for a house party. Meanwhile just down the road my local brewers fayre pub is packed to the rafters with no visible signs of distancing and nobody asked to sign in....
I'm not condoning the idiot behaviour of individuals but this is just another crap scheme from out of touch politicians
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#4056 20 Sept 2020 at 10.38am | | |
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So new regulations coming in to enforce fines up to 10 grand if you are unfortunate enough to be one of very few track & traced, the possibility of a £500 one off payment that won’t cover most people’s rent for a fortnight, not in London that’s for sure.. A test would negate the need to isolate but it’s impossible to get one
I don’t see who they’ll use or how they plan to enforce this because people don’t appear to give a **** round here about government advice or laws, I certainly won’t be isolating if I’m not unwell because I simply couldn’t afford to.
I know that’s selfish but my family eating and having a place to live comes before everything else.
I wouldn’t knowingly take Covid into the community but if health services can’t provide a test for those showing no symptoms they leave people who live hand to mouth with no alternative than to flout the rules
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#4055 19 Sept 2020 at 11.05pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4054
I don't 't understand that
What's wrong and selfish about complaining about a scheme that causes more pollution than it solves?
Apologies to everyone for going off topic again
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#4054 19 Sept 2020 at 10.18pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4023
Seems plenty complain in London about the massive investment by tax payers across the UK for a healthier future population in London if it affects them. Totally out of touch selfish types clearly. No surprise though... I'd add 5% income tax on London wages personally.
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#4053 19 Sept 2020 at 8.20pm | | |
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#4052 19 Sept 2020 at 5.58pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4041
Wandsworth didn't really have a choice but remove the dopey cones, as it left no room for emergency services, no ambulances could get to one of the busiest hospitals in the country
Along with Hammersmith and vauxhall bridges closed and Wandsworth Bridge at half capacity its been a frustrating few weeks traffic wise!
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#4051 19 Sept 2020 at 4.22pm | | |
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Cheers, same for you.
It is so frustrating, I don’t think it is coronavirus but I’m not prepared to put others at risk and ignore the advice. We are in the lucky position of having understanding employers, those with less protection might be tempted back to work.
Bob, I’ve read Private Eye’s Rotten Boroughs for 30 years. You’d love the stunts that councillors of all flavours have pulled over the years.
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#4050 19 Sept 2020 at 3.50pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4048
Hope all are ok in both houses fellas
Return to school always comes with sniffles and bugs with tiredness and general run down low immunity - coupled with covid there'll always be the extra worry and being cautious is the best option
We've had really good attendance overall but you can see that parents are not taking any chances - rightly so.
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#4049 19 Sept 2020 at 3.49pm | | |
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They say it's Corona related but I don't know anyone who believes it, it makes no sense.
Common belief is it was an excuse to get it through without proper consultation.
Consultation did start early this year, my missus managed to get into a very packed meeting hall for a meeting that didn't go at all well for the councillors, they were crucified so the belief is to save them grief they got it through using covid as an excuse. No one believes it's a coincidence that the councillors (who are non drivers) selected their roads to form the nucleus of the main LTN. which by the way is a wealthy area so their traffic is shifted to the poorer area just outside
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| | | noj | | Posts: 9784 | | | Social photographer... | |
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#4048 19 Sept 2020 at 3.37pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4047
Glad they’re on the mend, even if it’s the same (suspected) cold/infection we had it’s a stinker and heartbreaking seeing little ones suffering
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#4047 19 Sept 2020 at 3.21pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4042
Like the terrible father I am I followed the advice when faced with an asthmatic wife and son both with a fever, a new cough and a loss of taste and smell. I have just given up trying for a test as it has been five days now and it is too late for the antigen one. So now I still have to isolate for the next nine days as without a test result we just don’t know. Both are thankfully out of bed and on the mend, the GP chucked some steroids at them via a telephone consult and a course of antibiotics to rule out a chest infection in the boy but apart from that said follow the advice.
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| | | mal | | Posts: 5580 | | |
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#4046 19 Sept 2020 at 3.19pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4044
All starting to add up
Khan gets stick for traffic jams
Lockdown means less traffic
Khan calls for lockdown
Traffic clears up
No more complaints
This whole Mayor of London thing is easy. Wonder if they'd let a northerner do it...
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| | | noj | | Posts: 9784 | | | Social photographer... | |
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#4045 19 Sept 2020 at 3.16pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4043
Cheers mate, me and the lad are sweet. It’s the hormonal pregnant nuclear weapon I have at home that’s volatile
I could complain about being limited to 20 a bit more if I spent less time stationary, the road narrowing 906 mentioned seems to back up every major junction. And why? So the folk being paid to stay at home that we will spend the next few decades repaying, can sit around drinking frothy coffees and lager
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#4044 19 Sept 2020 at 3.00pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4038
It’s corona-related though Bob, they brought them in because of the need to widen pavements among other things. I have to admit I didn’t mind them at first, even though it took Waze a while to list them and had to do a few u-turns in my usual short-cuts around Catford and Lewisham. My regular journey to work is about 16 miles across South London and has doubled in time since early summer despite leaving earlier and earlier in the morning. I’m going back using the train most days.
Some proper consultation and modelling needs to be done before such wholesale changes, especially in areas away from high streets with heavy footfall. Traffic does need to be managed better and pollution decreased but this isn’t the way to do it. At least Khan hasn’t been out to the air quality sensors with the sprinklers.
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#4043 19 Sept 2020 at 2.52pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4042
Hope you all keep well mate
I'm tempted to get you started
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| | | noj | | Posts: 9784 | | | Social photographer... | |
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#4042 19 Sept 2020 at 2.38pm | | |
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Don’t get me started on the 20mph zones and 24 hour bus lanes 😡
And yes, whole family had every Covid symptom this past week with the addition of a snotty nose.. the GP was happy to see our lad because of the runny nose and prescribed antibiotics, so as chuffy says other illnesses are available.
I caught it originally from a Trump supporting US immigrant at work, so I feared the worse as soon as my throat was tickling
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#4041 19 Sept 2020 at 2.24pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4040
Government says make London cleaner, less pollution less reliance on cars.
Mayor takes the cash gives it to the councils and says do the above
Councils grab the money spend it as quickly as possible, implement LTN (Low Traffic Neighbourhoods) schemes in their own boroughs without consulting other boroughs. Virtually all LTN's in all boroughs cause gridlock.
Carnage and I don't use the word lightly ensures.
Apart from Wandsworth who back down the other councils announce it as a success backed by their Twitter feed fan clubs.
Other Londoners organise petitions, marches, posters etc etc. Then those who hold jobs through elections and who are out of touch wake up in the last few days and start to think about ways of both trying to safe face and their own arses, meanwhile the majority who are so thoroughly pissed off find as many platforms to moan on including fishing forums.
To be honest I'm past blaming now we can deal with them later. just put everything back to where it was (not perfect)learn from the mistakes and start again.
Let's hope that some cheap secondhand traffic cameras become available soon.
OK back on topic who's got a sore throat, cough and a snotty nose, do you think you need a test and can you get one?
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| | | Jon | | Posts: 3496 | | |
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#4040 19 Sept 2020 at 1.45pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4038
Is the whole LTN concept solely Khan's, without influence of central govt?
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#4039 19 Sept 2020 at 1.43pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4038
Get it off your chest bob. It'll only fester and give you grey hair if you keep it in.
To be fair it sounds a bloody nightmare. Hopefully my 80 quid congestion charge penalty will go some way to fixing the issue....
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#4038 19 Sept 2020 at 1.28pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4036
The LTN's have split communities into the have and have not, there have been motorist having punch ups over gridlock and when I say gridlock I mean all day car parks, local businesses robbed of trade due to road closures, people falling ill with fumes, I could go on but I'll stop now as this meant to be the corona thread but believe me I'm not exaggerating 
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#4037 19 Sept 2020 at 12.56pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4036
Many find him untrustworthy because of who he has represented in his past for starters...
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| | | Jon | | Posts: 3496 | | |
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#4036 19 Sept 2020 at 12.50pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4033
Has Khan given millions of taxpayer's cash to mates for a bridge that never got built, or a cable car that no one used? Or similar?
It's a genuine question ... Seems Khan can do no right while Johnson could do no wrong in the eyes of many.
Edit: last post has probably answered this.
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#4035 19 Sept 2020 at 12.45pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4034
The reason Khan has seen hatred recently is to with LTN's (Low Traffic Neighbourhoods) great idea in theory but a major cock up and having the opposite effect with parts of London in gridlock and pollution through the roof .
I think he's finally realised and asked for them to be reassessed but it's until sorted(that's if it does get sorted) he and many others will be hated.
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| | | mal | | Posts: 5580 | | |
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#4034 19 Sept 2020 at 12.01pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4033
Thought the little winky icon would suffice until we get our sarcastic emoji ....
Isn't khan calling for lockdowns to happen now to get ahead of the curve? I don't see that as a problem if they are probably going to happen in a couple of weeks anyway... from my understanding of the news reports, that's exactly what happened in the north east where local officials requested the government action to try and head off the rise in cases.
He (Khan) seems to get a lot of hate. I'm not a London resident anymore so maybe I'm missing out on exactly why that is. Maybe he should get some bikes for inner city bankers to improve his popularity rating... (sarcasm emoji here)
I'm off out to enjoy the sunshine while I can. One thing being back at work full time has done is remind me that the weekend exists! Have a good day man
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#4033 19 Sept 2020 at 11.46am | | |
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In reply to Post #4032
Predicted Mal? It's been said all along local lockdowns will happen when they are needed, That knob Khan has said it could happen in London.
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#4032 19 Sept 2020 at 10.37am | | |
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In reply to Post #4028
My thoughts too.
But he doesn't let the criticism stop him. He's already told his kids that even though they will be very well looked after, the majority of his estate will go into his charity foundation when he dies. Got to admire that. Giving back to the people who his success is built on.
I find society as a whole (in the wealthy countries ) is increasingly selfish. Aspiration is linked to possessions, big cars, big houses, lots of money for too many. Social media is too easily a platform for just showing off - look at my stuff, I'm on another holiday, look at my perfect life.... it's all pish compared to being a decent human being.
Not saying the two are mutually exclusive of course.
Back on thread topic, those new restrictions that I 'predicted' are here tinhead
Lots of plates spinning and furlough about to end brings a couple more to the mix.
Apparently gavin Williamson has suggested that schoolkids don't need to get a covid test. .. they can just get a predicted result from an algorithm ....
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#4031 19 Sept 2020 at 10.04am | | |
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In reply to Post #4029
You're right about personalities. Some will give their last penny and Rolo to help others and others as you say wouldn't give you the **** of their arse.
Not all but many millionaires became rich by being mean and ruthless, if you want the **** of their arse you're going to have to pay for it.
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#4030 19 Sept 2020 at 10.04am | | |
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In reply to Post #4029
I'm not in disagreement with you, the oppostie. Ultimatley they don't have to and we can't force them. Personally I would have thought most people who were filthy rich would donate something, even for tax purposes!
Tell you who should be donating and made to, the likes of Nike and the rest of the ****s who are exploiting people and pumping it all off shore but don't get me.going with those ****s 
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#4029 19 Sept 2020 at 9.41am | | |
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In reply to Post #4027
No one is taking away from them being successful but when you’ve got so much money you literally can have everything, does one not think about the people who have nothing and want to help them?
Suppose it’s in everyone’s personalities isn’t it. You have people with hardly anything that will do everything than can to help people less fortunate than them, and people who have everything which will not give a toss about anyone else. I know which person I’d rather knock about with.
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#4028 19 Sept 2020 at 9.26am | | |
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In reply to Post #4026
Bill Gates does plenty to make the world a bit better, and look at the stick he gets for it. Albeit from idiots.
Edit: And if they are paying their taxes does that make them selfish or do we agree that they are successful?
Depends how many fish they catch.
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#4027 19 Sept 2020 at 8.41am | | |
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In reply to Post #4026
I guess they could, I guess some do and some don't either. It's their choice at the end of the day. They dont owe anybody anything. They have created their success at the end of the day. Respect from me
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#4026 19 Sept 2020 at 8.23am | | |
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And if they are paying their taxes does that make them selfish or do we agree that they are successful?
They could always help the unfortunate or do good for the world with some of their money....I’m talking about the m(b)illionaires of course. Take Bezos for instance, when you’re earning $2000+ PER SECOND, you could not selfishly hoard billions of dollars, you could sort out problems in the world like child poverty, world hunger, the environment, etc.
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#4025 19 Sept 2020 at 7.10am | | |
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In reply to Post #4024
Agree about the tax but if we are tackling that, let’s fry the biggest fish of all, the company’s who are operating “offshore” and taking the piss first
What about the others who have, by no fault of their own, got the ****ty end of the stick in the UK?
I was specifically talking about what I had seen on the news, abroad. But if you want to twist it around. There are options, get a job or they may need to relocate or retrain, or take one on a lower wage, skills based. What is it, 80% of all waiter jobs in the U.K. are now held by foreign workers. Wonder why that is? if you are unfortunate and not able to work there are benefits that come from taxpayers wages. Quite a good society that we live in. I can see why everybody wants to come here. Others get absolutely **** all!
If you've got 100k worth of cars sat outside your massive house and you fiddle your taxes then yes, I'd say you were a selfish git.
And if they are paying their taxes does that make them selfish or do we agree that they are successful?
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#4024 18 Sept 2020 at 10.11pm | | |
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All I care about ultimately is my personal situation and my family’s. Does that sound selfish?
I couldn't possibly say. If you're jogging along getting by and paying what's due, then no, it doesn't sound selfish. If you've got 100k worth of cars sat outside your massive house and you fiddle your taxes then yes, I'd say you were a selfish git.
My lifestyle is dictated by the opportunities in this country. Believe it or not, amongst all the **** that goes off, I can’t complain, especially when I look at others
What about the others who have, by no fault of their own, got the ****ty end of the stick in the UK?
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#4023 18 Sept 2020 at 9.26pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4021
All I care about ultimately is my personal situation and my family’s. Does that sound selfish?
My lifestyle is dictated by the opportunities in this country. Believe it or not, amongst all the **** that goes off, I can’t complain, especially when I look at others
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#4022 18 Sept 2020 at 9.25pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4020
Fair enough.
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#4021 18 Sept 2020 at 9.24pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4016
Surely proud British citizens like us should expect to be 'amongst the best', rather than 'one of the worst'.
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#4020 18 Sept 2020 at 9.24pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4019
Not read it Jon and he’s is probably a cock. What I am saying is that there are lots of things I could complain about, i choose not to. I’m thankful that I live in this country and I just get on with things
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#4019 18 Sept 2020 at 9.12pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4018
So you'd more on less agree with Jacob Rees Mogg's 'stop complaining and be thankful for what you've got'?
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#4018 18 Sept 2020 at 8.57pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4017
Nope, I’m happy driving my 30k car and think myself lucky I live and work in this country. Others don’t have this opportunity. I’m grateful that I do
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| | | Jon | | Posts: 3496 | | |
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#4017 18 Sept 2020 at 8.49pm | | |
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So if you paid, say, 30k for a car, and it drove like a dog, you'd take it back to the dealer. The dealer would show you a film of some poor buggers who only had donkeys, old donkeys at that, and you'd skip out of the garage clicking your heels and counting yourself lucky?
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#4016 18 Sept 2020 at 8.34pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4015
Some are looking for a utopia that cannot and will not ever exist!
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#4015 18 Sept 2020 at 8.04pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4014
Exactly Wayne, watch the news. All these giving it the
Go and swap places with them?
Strengthens the case of compensation for me, can’t give them back what they have lost but create them something better
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#4014 18 Sept 2020 at 8.00pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4013
Spot on......
We got it very very good in this ****ed up world! You want corruption then move to Zimbabwe Or the like!
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#4013 18 Sept 2020 at 7.52pm | | |
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Anybody watch the news?
Peru, 29,000 deaths, shanty towns, on their arses, very sad situation. Same as the African townships
I think this thread is typical of the bubble and the world we live in. Demanding this, that and the other, complaining about everything when some people have got absolutely nothing. Sad state of affairs, some people do simply not appreciate what we have got in this country
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#4012 18 Sept 2020 at 3.01pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4011
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#4011 18 Sept 2020 at 2.55pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4010
I'll have you know I get my news from the guy wearing only pants and a chewbacca mask that stands on the corner next to the offy!
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#4010 18 Sept 2020 at 2.34pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4009
So much fake news about isn't there. Maybe your news is fake?
Only being mischievous and kidding so no need to reply
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#4009 18 Sept 2020 at 1.43pm | | |
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In reply to Post #3999
only fake news I keep seeing is about refugees being "illegal"...huge fake news that is feeding the right wing propaganda machine.
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#4008 18 Sept 2020 at 1.12pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4004
Is that the same cold that two weeks ago you were saying would show up on the test?
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#4007 18 Sept 2020 at 12.53pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4005
No ****?
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#4006 18 Sept 2020 at 12.29pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4005
The same people who bought all the toilet rolls........
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#4005 18 Sept 2020 at 12.20pm | | |
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In reply to Post #4004
The same people who bought all the toilet rolls
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#4004 18 Sept 2020 at 12.06pm | | |
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Testing availibilty would be ok if so many people werent going there with an obvious cold and abusing the testing capacity........
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#4003 18 Sept 2020 at 10.40am | | |
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In reply to Post #4002
So do I. No fake news there
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| | | mal | | Posts: 5580 | | |
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#4002 18 Sept 2020 at 10.27am | | |
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In reply to Post #3999
I blame China
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#4001 18 Sept 2020 at 10.21am | | |
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In reply to Post #4000
Thank you for lightheartedness
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