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   So, here’s the situation regards the builders.
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   Old Thread  #63 18 Feb 2021 at 6.11pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Exactly.

Boils the p155 mate.
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   Old Thread  #62 18 Feb 2021 at 9.55am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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And they wonder why people take the law into there own hands where is the justice system
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   Old Thread  #61 16 Feb 2021 at 5.09pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Totally sucks mate.
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   Old Thread  #60 16 Feb 2021 at 5.04pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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That's ****

You need those 'Can't Pay We'll Take It Way' blokes
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   Old Thread  #59 16 Feb 2021 at 4.48pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Update regards canopy.

The builder in question by order of the courts required him to provide to me three chartered surveyors who would do a report on the canopy in which I’d then choose one from the three.

However I never heard anything from the builder ‘surprising considering he had previously told the judge that he’d done a quality piece of work when building the canopy’.

Anyway, the telephone call was at 10am with the courts, myself and builder in question. Come 10am I receive and answer the call. The judge then telephoned the builder on both numbers provided by him and there was no answer from him. Hardly surprising?.

Due to the judge stating that he now has to kick out the claimants claim I then asked what happens now in relation to recovering the costs I’ve incurred defending this claim made against me. I was asked if I had put in a counterclaim when the claim had made against me. I explained how could i counterclaim when I couldn’t foresee of what it would cost to defend myself?. To this the judge said that I’m entitled to nothing but I can bring a claim against the builder for my costs incurred. The judge also stated that I should have counter claimed in relation to what it would cost to have it taken down to which my response to that was to state my immediate thoughts was to how I need to defend myself against a claim for money owed against me. He understood but as you’d expect couldn’t care less.

Even if I did issue a claim the courts do not enforce any monies owed to me and if the builder in question doesn’t pay then I’d have to persue a seperate Claim for non payment.

I said to the judge how can the builder put me through this and then he himself faces no consequences for his actions in causing undue stress etc etc to which he couldn’t offer an explanation other than for me to issue a claim against him.

It’s truly disgusting that the builder gets the best of both worlds having pressed for monies and yet doesn’t carry out an order that he was told to do. He was aware he would have come unstuck and yet he isn’t held accountable in wasting time and for what he’s put me and us as a family through.

I knew that if I was awarded any expenses incurred that there was a possibility that I wouldn’t get paid and that I’d need to then issue another claim for non payment. To combat this I would have explained that when the builder pays me ‘if he did pay that is’ then I’d donate it to the Douglas Macmillan hospice ‘as that is where the builders mother in law had end of life cancer care’ then I would forward the receipt to him. The reason behind me doing this would have being so the builder then thought that he was keeping funding from the charity and not necessarily from myself.

Edit - In short if you thinking of chasing someone through the courts for non payment even after you know you’ve carried out shocking work that you can have your cake and eat it as there will be no consequences that your actions have caused to others.

Edit - Ps, due to other ongoing issues with my daughters home caused by this builder and the stress it has caused to my daughter, wife and myself I won’t be issuing a counterclaim for my costs incurred as it’s now time to protect as best I can my own and families health and to do this means not becoming embroiled in a counterclaim. As previously mentioned monies was going to be donated to a charity so it’s not like I’d be getting anything out of it anyway.
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   Old Thread  #58 5 Dec 2020 at 6.27pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Indeed mate a specialist bath. The bath was just under £12,000.

Fortunately my daughters solicitors look after her finances and are accountable to the court of protection and as such they have a duty to recoup whatever monies they can which will ‘after they’ve found absolutely everything wrong with the house’ involve entering litigation with the chartered surveyor who for some unbeknown reason gave the builders a practical completion certificate. The builders have got out of jail right there. The building company that did the work I notice that their website was under maintenance for a few months and now it looks like they’ve took that website down. Would not surprise me if they’re going to fold the company.

Yep, we’ll keep at it mate.

So sorry to hear that you’ve problems and no recourse too. I don’t know how I would cope if I didn’t have ‘well my daughter’ have any recourse as I’d be mess mentally. Hope that you’re able to sort something/anything out.

Good luck mate and all the best.
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   Old Thread  #57 4 Dec 2020 at 2.16pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I take it the bath/bed are specialist kit T, hence the girders for weight?

Just as well you queried it mate, I bet most wouldn't, they should be brought to account for the potential concequences regardless and you should be compensated imo.

Keep at it

I'm in a similar position with the house we've moved into but I have no recourse!
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   Old Thread  #56 1 Dec 2020 at 7.47pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Steel girders were put in under where the bath is and yet when the bath was put in situ the right side of the bath is sitting on the fcuking joists. All got to be inspected, report done and then done properly to how it should have being done in the first place. Thank goodness I had the sense of mind to ask for this to be checked as alarm bells rang in my mind after discovering that they’d not re-enforced the floor under the bed.

House is currently to a shell, everything has to be ripped out including the whole kitchen.

I’ll be asking the question and would hope that these builders ‘well, cowboys’ are brought to task with the health and safety board or whoever has to ‘if anyone’ has to know.

Unfcukingbelievable.

How they sleep at night I do not know.
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   Old Thread  #55 13 Nov 2020 at 9.55pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thank goodness my daughter was never ever in a position to move in because imagine going through the bedroom floor where cables and pipes run.

It’s pretty disturbing to be honest.
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   Old Thread  #54 13 Nov 2020 at 8.11pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Have Channel 4 signed you up yet? They'd get a couple of series out of this saga.
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   Old Thread  #53 13 Nov 2020 at 5.35pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Uncovered other major issues.

First floor bedroom floor was inspected by a structural engineer to see if it required reinforcing in which it did. Since discovered that despite being signed off as completed it was never done by the builder, well certainly not to the recommendation. New chartered surveyor involved cannot make any sense from how the builder has tried to reinforce it and makes no difference in adding any support. Edit- Still, not to worry as there is only electric cables and water pipes that run through the joists.

Drainage makes no sense whatsoever and also being questioned is regards the soil pipe as they don’t even know where the ***** etc is going to. As such an inspection and report has got to be undertaken,

Been pretty much relaxed over it all but now I hope that whatever happens the health and safety ‘or whoever become involved’ have to become involved.
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   Old Thread  #52 8 Sept 2020 at 5.33pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Understand what you’re saying but imagine if they’d have valued it at half of just over £475.

It’s unbelievable and thank you mate.
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   Old Thread  #51 8 Sept 2020 at 5.06pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Maybe give the canopy a nominal value of £1?

Hope you get this sorted.
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   Old Thread  #50 8 Sept 2020 at 3.54pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Update.

To cut a long story short a telephone conversation ensued this morning with the builder and the courts.

It was due to last 30 minutes.

I was told that the canopy does have a value and if I wish to proceed with mediation today then I would have to acknowledge this.

If something that has been built ‘namely a canopy’ does not meet regulations and standards then how could it have a value when it’s not serving a purpose that it is supposed to?.

I explained that I do not accept that it has a value due to not meeting regulations and standards. I was then informed that it would now have to be decided by yet another telephoning meeting ‘in due course’ which will be listed as lasting a possible 2 hours.

Any input be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Edit - for those that may have not kept up with this thread then the builder in question was given ample opportunity to do so to put it right. Obviously he felt he’d explored every opportunity and because of this issued his claim for money against me. The very next day having the builder read my reply to how I plan on getting my evidence together his mother telephoned asking if her son and her husband could call to my property to put the canopy right.

Seems to me that after he had read my reply and how I planned on busting the evidence he claimed he could provide to the courts that he wasn’t going to provide it as easy as he thought he would do hence to why his mother telephoned offering to now put the canopy right.

Not bad too considering that in his witness statement he claimed I’d being aggressive and abusive and yet here is his mum asking me if they could come to my property. No evidence of his accusations only 5 submitted photos of the canopy he built. Anyone would think I’m disputing that he even built it.

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   Old Thread  #49 8 Mar 2020 at 10.27pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It’s all very entertaining.

Going see if Dom would like to do a shoot or three.
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   Old Thread  #48 8 Mar 2020 at 9.15pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You should have your own show on Channel 4.
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   Old Thread  #47 6 Mar 2020 at 8.17pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Update.

The builder applied to the courts to have his claim reinstated against me after he have missed a deadline in paying a court fee.

To cut a long story short the hearing was today and I went along to have my input but he has managed to have his claim reinstated which I am pleased about.

In his claim he claims that I was abusive and aggressive to him and the contractors that he had used.

Therefore I would have expected to have seen copies of a risk management plan put in place as to minimise harm to him and them.

I would have also expected to see enclosed copies as his evidence of signed witness statements who I had supposedly abused and been aggressive to.

All i get enclosed that he intends to use as evidence in these claims are 5 photographs of the canopy......I kid you not....

He even said to the judge today that I could not use the evidence I had passed to him that I intend to use because he had received it too late......Well, in fact he received it 15 days beforehand which was a day early actually.

His face was a picture when I informed him of the date it was signed for by his director ‘well, his mum actually’. Not my fault if mummy had passed it to him a few days later....

Thank goodness for next day signed for guaranteed before 1pm delivery.

Oh, and I’m awaiting the new court date to come through.

The guy is a monumental bell.

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   Old Thread  #46 21 Feb 2020 at 3.37pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I’m with ya mate.

Thanks mate and hopefully the legal side of things gets sorted to a satisfactory conclusion but it’ll be more about talks between solicitor and chartered surveyor without hopefully the need to go to court.

The new builders should have it all corrected and hopefully a lovely home to move into in the summer.

Thanks mate.
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   Old Thread  #45 21 Feb 2020 at 2.56pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It’s nothing to do with me suing him because it’s my daughters home that he’s destroyed and is in the hands of solicitors who are in the process of sorting the mess out.
Apologies, by saying you I meant your family.
It'll be interesting to see what comes of pursuing the Chartered Surveyor, looks like he doesn't have a leg to stand on! either way I'm sure you could all of done without this :-(
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   Old Thread  #44 21 Feb 2020 at 1.04pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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My daughter has a brain injury and as such has court of protection in which her solicitors look after her both her finances and wellbeing.

She purchased the house next door and amongst other work carried out to her house she was to have a canopy built above her front door.

Before we/I found out how bad the builders were I’d asked the builder if he’d be able to extend the canopy so that it covered my front door too which he said he would. I said that I would cover the cost of my half of the canopy. As it turned out the whole canopy ended up a bag of 5hite. When he invoiced me for my own half I said that I would pay it when he put the problems right with it. He obviously thought that there were no problems with the canopy due to him then issuing me with a claim for money through the courts.

As it turned out regards the canopy we had to go to a preliminary hearing at the courts in which a date was set for it to be heard in the small claims court. He was informed that if he wished to proceed with this then he would have to pay a further £80 by such a date. To cut a long story short the courts wrote to me stating that the claimant has failed to pay the £80 by that date so therefore the claimants claim has been thrown out.

Regards the work carried out to my daughters home a chartered surveyor was employed by her solicitors to oversee the work. It turns out that the house has been completely wrecked but for some reason the chartered surveyor had issued the builder with a practical completion certificate.

We had to have an independent living accomadation expert in to take a look at the works carried out by the builder. He was appalled by how shocking it was. He then had a meeting with the builder who had wanted x ammount of monies for his work. The builder was told that to be realistic and that you won’t be getting near to the ammount of monies you’re asking for.

The builder accepted a 5 figure sum less than he had wanted. The builder could have stuck to his guns and had it all because he had been issued a practical completion certificate by the surveyor.

That practical completion certificate should never have been issued to the builder. Now that it has been issued my daughters solicitor will now be going after the chartered surveyor to not only recover the costs that the builder has been paid but to also recover the costs that it’s going to take to put this sorry mess right that they’ve made to her home.

Now there is a new building company in place due to start this coming Monday and a new chartered surveyor in place too to oversee the project in stripping all back to brick and to put all of it right.

Edit - In short the builder has got away with it because of this wrongly issued practical completion certificate that he was given.

In the short and long term I hope that his business suffers as solicitors involved in the case will obviously not recommend them to anyone and I myself certainly won’t and I’ll keep my reviews of their company to myself until all of these legal issues are finished with.

Wherever I’m able to leave reviews then rest assured I’ll be doing exactly that as to warn others of these shocking builders.

I feel for those that are going through the same sort of things with these builders who don’t have the protection that my daughter has and believe me i know that there are indeed others too.
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   Old Thread  #43 21 Feb 2020 at 12.13pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It’s concerning my half of the canopy that he wanted payment for and I refused payment and explained that when the issues are put right with it then I’ll pay. He obviously didn’t think anything was wrong with the canopy due to him issuing his claim for money through the courts. He has now decided not to continue with his money claim.

It’s nothing to do with me suing him because it’s my daughters home that he’s destroyed and is in the hands of solicitors who are in the process of sorting the mess out.
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   Old Thread  #42 21 Feb 2020 at 10.39am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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So you've got no recourse legally other than I assume sueing him?
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The builder had until the 13th February to pay the £80 to the courts in order for him to carry on the claim which is set for 5th March.

I get his evidence through on the 12th of February that he intends to use in the courts. I also submitted my evidence back to him along with a copy to the courts that I also intend to use in the courts and he received this yesterday and so did the courts.

I had until 2 weeks before the trial date of the 5th March to send in my evidence so it had to be submitted by tomorrow ‘20th February’.

I receive a letter through from the courts this morning stating that the claimant has failed to pay the small claims hearing fee of £80 and the claim is struck out.

How has/is this allowed to have happened as it’s disgusting.

I suppose at the very least he got to read my evidence and now realises just what a billy bullsh1tter he’s been made out to be.
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   Old Thread  #40 17 Feb 2020 at 3.06pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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New contractors just left along with a chap whose the chartered surveyor and they are in disbelief at what they have actually seen in the house.

Totally mesmerised by the 5h1t show outside in the yard too.

Chartered surveyor said he has seen nothing like it and the lad whose building company it is who are doing the work walked around just totally gobsmacked and bewildered by it all but thankfully not in awe.


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Decorator will get over it
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The top half of the soil pipe is now hanging away from the wall because storm Dennis has blown out the rawl plugs.

New contractors taking a look at it now because if the couple other rawl plugs come out it’ll be over the neighbours.

Wow, just wow.
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   Old Thread  #37 14 Feb 2020 at 4.55pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Did you rub your answer out mate?.......
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Been issued the claim but no evidence enclosed to what he’s stating.

I mean, if you’re claiming that I was abusive towards him and the contractors involved in the building works then there should be evidence stating as such from the contractors. Instead all I got was photos of the canopy full on.

Quite what everything /anything he’s stated has got to do with it I just don’t know.....

Still, bring it on.

Edit - By the way, I’ve abused nobody.
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Feel your pain mate.

Fortunately my daughter has court of protection so the solicitors who look after her finances have a duty of care to chase back as much monies as they possibly can because they themselves are answerable to TCOP.

When all is done and dusted legally I’ll be doing my utmost and all above board to expose them for what they are.

They can run, change their building company name but they can’t hide.
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   Old Thread  #33 11 Feb 2020 at 9.17am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Glad your starting to get there T, stick to your guns

I've never had much trade work carried out but moved to a house last may and since then I've been left very disappointed, not a single tradesman hasn't got it wrong or their suppliers, one really got on my nerves, in fact I had to stop dealing with them (poor Mrs) fuming doesn't sum it up
Had our living room/lounge archway knocked out rooms replastered, ceiling joint split between boards, crack opening and closing depending if fire was on or room was cold (were talking several mm with plaster chipping out). Also had a new log fire put in.

Got them back, it's just a bit of movement. it's to be expected, back again, it's your fire mate, it's too hot, back third time, it must be movement of the joists from the room above (we hadn't been using that room) back 4th time filled it with flexi...opened up again. 3 times I asked them if they'd taped the joint, yes mate, got another plasterer in, I'd say it's not taped.

Got them back a 5th time on the proviso they take it back and check if it's taped, you guessed it, not taped, so they taped it up and flexied it again, no probs for 3 months now so sorted but they told me to finish to smooth
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The builder got until the 13th Feb to decide if he would still like to go ahead with his money claim he made against me or he’ll be accountable for my expenses occurred.

I’m just praying and hoping that the builder continues his claim against me and doesn’t 5h1t out having to face that shower of 5h1t of evidence in relation to that awful canopy he built.

If he does 5h1t out I’ll be the first to let him know ‘or his mummy Mavis’ how disappointed I am that he didn’t have the ba115 to carry it out.
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A few quid short of £950. Well, I’m hoping I won’t be made to pay it by the courts.

Solicitors fees cost me zero ‘or has it mr builder?’ and as for correspondence in gathering my email evidence together over that total 5h1te of a supposed canopy around 48 hours in total.

Edit - He wanted his payment, I refused him stating ‘by e-mail through my solicitor’ that if he put the issues right with it then I’d pay him. He didn’t agree to that obviously because he then issued me a claim for money through the courts. lo and behold the next morning he got the director of his company ‘it was his mummy actually’ to telephone me asking if both himself and his father could call up to the property and put the issues right with it. I told her that they couldn’t and when she asked why not I told her that I’d been issued a money claim for it against me, I responded to that claim and now you’d have to carry on going through the proper channels. I also ticked the box in my response on the claim form for no mediation with him and explained my reasons for doing so.

They must have been desperate to put it right because this telephone call was on a Saturday and wanted to call Tuesday. No doubt it would have being the Monday but it was a bank holiday.

I also got the impression that they knew they’d be stuffed after my response to their claim because I’ve evidence to suggest anything but as to what they’re claiming as evidence.

It’s disgusting that they’re still trading because they have not got a clue.
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   Old Thread  #30 8 Feb 2020 at 4.47pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
How much is your half of the canopy costing you ???.... cos you must of done a fair wack on solicitors and correspondence
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Just edited it then noticed you’d posted after I’d clicked submit button.

See edit regards joins mate.
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if it’s painted and the chippy has spliced it properly there could be 100 bits and you wouldn’t know.
Sound atrocious
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   Old Thread  #27 8 Feb 2020 at 1.44pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Wooden and then undercoated and glossed.

Even the paint work is horrendous, looks like the brushes were dipped in dust prior to and upon paint going on.

Even quite a few sections of wallpaper have got to come off because it’s a **** show and then stripped back to brick because the plastering ‘cough cough’ is a total mess as there’s more straightness in tins of spaghetti.

Edit - you should see the joins that have parted due to movements of the house, mind you though he never attempted to disguise them properly in the first place.
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   Old Thread  #26 8 Feb 2020 at 1.35pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Were they painted or wood finish?
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   Old Thread  #25 8 Feb 2020 at 10.58am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Oh I did indeed raise my concerns.

Not as simple as it sounds to stop it before it got too far as had to wait until they’d officially said they’d completed it.

Edit - The only way out of his contract was if I had smacked him about and believe me not only did he know it but he didn’t half try the goading stuff. If I’d have smacked him he’d have had the perfect reason not to return and not only would it have given him a perfectly good reason not to return but it would have cost my daughter tens of thousands to put the whole sorry mess right.

The thing is he must have thought I was still 5h1tt1n yellow to fall for his games.


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   Old Thread  #24 8 Feb 2020 at 10.54am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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5.

Looks horrendous.

Edit - 2 x each side of the uprights in which he’d made the lengths up of consisting a 6 inch join at the top of each upright. 1 along the top,

Not that you’d ever join them but if you were going to it’d be more out of sight if you did the join at the bottom.
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   Old Thread  #23 8 Feb 2020 at 9.53am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Depends on where in the room the door is but usually 3

I have a few questions to ask

How come you didn’t question the builder whilst the works were going on
If you had your concerns and you have a builder in the falmily why didn’t you ask him to have a look
At least he could have “managed “ the build on your behalf.

To me a lot of this could have been stopped before it got too far imo
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   Old Thread  #22 8 Feb 2020 at 9.30am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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We all know it should be 3. How many did he use?
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If only the project manager was watching these cowboys like a hawk instead of letting them have an unchecked run for far far too long. No wonder he was fcuked off as well.
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   Old Thread  #20 7 Feb 2020 at 11.53pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Genuine question.......

How many pieces of architrave would one expect to be fitted around a door frame?.

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   Old Thread  #19 7 Feb 2020 at 4.17pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Come around with that avatar of yours and click, click click until your hearts content.

Big big camera for big big fcuk ups.
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To cut a long story short I had a chartered surveyor in to do a report on a canopy that this builder had done for me because not only wasn’t I happy about the standard of work but this dodgy builder had issued me with a money claim through the courts. This was in despite of me saying that if he put the issues right then I would pay him.

So, after the chartered surveyor had finished his findings on the canopy ‘which by the way he absolutely slaughtered’ I asked him if he’d like to take a look inside my daughters house to see for himself such shocking standards of work and also explained to him that the more people who know of this builder/building company the better for all.

Anyway, he takes a look and cannot believe such shocking standards of work, takes a look out of the back bedroom window and points out that the extension roof isn’t right and that it will start to rain in soon. He points to some of the tiles on the roof and says ‘look how they’re lifting already’. and when I looked they had lifted 10mm or so.

When looking outside at the back of the property in the yard the horror on his face when I put the outside tap on only for the water to backfill because after they’d installed drainage channels they’d never even ran it to the drains but just simply butted the drainage channel up to a paver said it all you’ll ever need to know.

When the extension was built windows throughout the house were fitted. I even had to point out to the builder that the window in the back bathroom was out of square by 25mm and looked horrendous. He put it right but it meant the render that had also been done was smashed off in order to get the window square.

I can appreciate that it’s hard to believe because I’m struggling to come to terms with it too to think that there are folk out there who do this type of 5h1te.
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A long long legal process but to cut a long story short and without going into any great detail another building company are in situ to start to rectify all of this total 5h1te.

When all is done and dusted and legally too I’ll try put up photos so it can be seen in all its unglory.

When I tell folk that I know of all the 5h1t caused they look at me as though I’ve gone bonkers and if it wasn’t for me then showing them photos and videos I’d think I was going fcuking bonkers too.

Edit - My father in law who has now retired ‘aged 83’ builder of 50 plus years has even cried after seeing the total hell hole because in his words he says he’d have done absolutely everything if he was 20 or so years younger.

He sees the 5h1t and cannot believe that people like this are even allowed to carry on trading.

It’s a total nightmare.

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   Old Thread  #16 7 Feb 2020 at 11.43am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It does collect on my spurs and hat too. The horse usually waits outside so he’s alright
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   Old Thread  #15 7 Feb 2020 at 11.05am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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"YOU'RE GETTING DUST ALL OVER THE NEW PAINTWORK I JUST GOT RID OF ONE COWBOY I DON'T WANT ANOTHER"


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   Old Thread  #14 7 Feb 2020 at 10.50am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Disconnecting dust extraction usually clears an audience prettty swiftly
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I've done a few over the years but I price them very high these days. even someone who might have been great to work for previously will watch you like a hawk, and question every aspect of what you're doing, what you need, and what it costs, which makes people uncomfortable and leads to a lot of mistakes and then the cycle starts again...
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   Old Thread  #12 7 Feb 2020 at 10.14am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It’s all fun and games until you are justifying a price or timescale to rectify **** work.
Seems to be my bread and butter the last 18 months or so, then they want you to build or fit something else when you’ve done a good job but “funds are tight” and they want it done properly for tuppence and a shirt button
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It sounds a bad situation and it's very difficult to resolve. I can't see the contractor finishing it to a standard you are happy with, and getting anyone else in would cost a fortune.
I would like to see some photos just to see where this falls on the cowboy builder vs pedantic customer scale. There are lots of tradesman on here, photos would get you a lot more feedback.
Especially the kitchen, laughing at builder fits is a hobby of mine

Who actually chose the contractor, and was there a previous relationship between them and the solicitor?
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Despite it being noted and documented in the minutes of the meeting that a sink with the drainer to the left is fitted for some reason the builder saw fit to put in a sink with right handed drainer. Now it’s a big big job to put it the way it should have been in the first place as appliances etc etc have also got to be rearranged.

The builder has even fitted the worktop bowed so when you look at it from the other end of the kitchen it’s akin to a fcuking banana.

Over 200 snags with the property.

Buried power cable in the yard all of 6 inches deep.

I don’t know how they sleep at night.
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I served my time.
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How did you escape?
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I used to be in a secure institution.

Edit - Anything else you’d like to know or ask?.
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I assumed you were in secure accommodation and you only posted about what you saw through the bars but your not are you?
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Indeed I am.
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Aren't you the washing line bloke?
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Thanks mate much appreciated.

Don’t know how some folk can sleep at night.
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Hope you can sort it out mate.
In my line of work I've come across alot of this type of thing.
Although most contractors are up to scratch and give a damn, there are too many that ain't, and it needs to be sorted.
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At the moment I’m not in a situation to name the builders.

I’ll try to keep a long story pretty shortish but bear with me as I try to explain because it’s still an ongoing nightmare.

My daughter due to a brain injury is classed as a vulnerable adult, is a protected individual so as such has court of protection.

She has solicitors that look after her finances etc etc.

The house next door to where we as a family live came up for sale and my daughter purchased the house.

The next step was for builders to be interviewed and 3 were narrowed down to one. It was project managed by a respected company ‘or so we thought’. The builder that was chosen has made a complete mess of everything, and I mean everything.

I won’t yet list all the issues but one of the major issues is that prior to an extension on my daughters house being built the electrical power cables ‘these cables that are connected to a power box then go on to feed power to another 6 houses’ that ran along where the extension was to be built should have remained visible at all times. However the builders have boxed the cables below the extension roof and as such part of or if not all of it has got to come down.

The builders said they had now completed the project and in came the experts namely the chartered surveyor to snag the whole lot of the property.

My daughter was to have a canopy over her front door and before I knew just how bad these builders were to become I asked if they would be able to extend it over my front door too which they said they would. Obviously my half of that canopy was to be paid by me.

The canopy is such a disaster it serves no purpose at all. The builder wanted payment for my half but I told them that when it is put right I will then pay it.

The builder attempted to put both myself and daughters canopy right and he sent a photograph to the chartered surveyor who for some reason commented on how it was now fit for purpose and now the builder is using this against me when he issued a small claim against me.

When I questioned the surveyor as to what legal right he had in commenting on my side of the canopy and how he could possibly pass it off by means of just a photo and that surely you need to see it in person his response was that he would look at it when all of the list of snagging of the property is put right and won’t just come to look at just one at a time completed snag.

I also asked the chartered surveyor if he thinks it’s right that this building company is using your opinion based on a photograph in a small claims court in order to get payment from me for my half of the canopy. I also asked if he felt it was good practice to pass off something as done correctly by simply seeing just a photograph.

He replied that the building company have been made aware that none of his correspondence regards the canopy is to be used by them.

When I got issued this money claim there was a section where that I had to complete should I wish to produce an expert report. I do and I had to let the other side aware of this, which I did.

I have the report done and this report slates the canopy as not fit for purpose, doesn’t meat any standards set by the guidelines and that it’s incompetent.

So, I turn up at the preliminary hearing and I am refused permission to submit my canopy report upon it going to a trial.

The building company now say that they’ve 2 chartered surveyor reports on the canopy. I don’t understand why 2 reports when in the money claim they only quoted 1 which to be honest that’s been blown out of the water.

I got evidence that shows I asked the builder to repair the canopy and then when completed I’ll pay the money so it isn’t as if I’ve refused to pay and yet this builder didn’t agree with that and as such issued the money claim.

The builders have made such a mess of my daughters home to be that after her solicitors had sought advice over this. It turned out they were well within their rights in not allowing the builders to attempt in putting things right.

I must add that the builders were offered some monies for the work but only a third of what they had originally expected and they duly accepted the offer.

Now, because the chartered surveyor company had issued the builders with a practical completion certificate they’ve been made aware that lawyers will be coming for you.

All in all just a total nightmare and now I’ve still to fight for myself over my half of the canopy.
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