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In reply to Post #98
Thanks for the explanation.
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In reply to Post #98
No don't know what gear is required. Now you've explained I see your point 
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In reply to Post #97
If you've ever fished for extremely large fish you'll know the gear you require. They're in amongst loads of bluefin, seeing them bust out, picking them up on the echo, massive 6/700lb fish. The gear they hook the bluefin on isn't uk shark gear. 80lb stand up tuna stick with full roller guides, 50 wide reel probably with 500 yards of 80lb line loaded. They were loaded for bear for a reason. Not smart making a video when it's so obvious what's going on, so yes they wouldn't be able to if deliberately targeting, hence the accidental catch spin.
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In reply to Post #96
So how do you know they were targeting bluefin, I had the video on but didn't watch intently did I miss something.
If deliberately targeted and they managed to land one they wouldn't be able to make the video?
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In reply to Post #95
Hardly, it's illegal.
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In reply to Post #94
Without watching the whole video again did they say they were going to target Bluefin Tuna?
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In reply to Post #91
They hooked and lost exactly the species they targeted at the point in the video Jon, Bluefin tuna. It's an ICCAT protected species and only to be targeted by authorised boats within the tagging program. The trip they were on was not within the program.
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In reply to Post #92
I like what they did on the resser,
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In reply to Post #91
Well the title of the video does not say "shark fishing",they catch a nice blue shark from a boat kitted out and run properly for sharks so not sure what is wrong.I think the title is something about a big fish taking a bait intended for sharks
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In reply to Post #87
I'm no shark angler. What did they do that was so unacceptable?
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In reply to Post #89
I thought that , others would not of put that effort in , video or not.
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In reply to Post #88
Great effort from lads https://youtu.be/U_gI-0tk_F0
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seen a video of Darrell Peck out in a boat without a life jacket, think it was the French pit one, but it was only once in the film, he wore one on every other occasion. he clearly just forgot in the rush to get in it. I've never fished from/with a boat but imagine its easily done at times.
can only assume that they have just forgotten on that occasion, and as said before, a short video explaining the dangers etc and that they had forgotten would be a good thing. and some easy content for them to make
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Watched bits and bobs of the stuff they've done and generally enjoyed it. Watched one earlier that I presume is very recent. "Shark fishing" my arse. Taking the piss to put that in film on a public platform 
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A statement would be the best answer apologising and warning people of the dangers. Even a short video admitting their error of judgement.
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In reply to Post #83
Spot on. Just because Carl n Alex are genuinely lovely lads does not exempt them from drowning. A life jacket should always be worn in a boat.
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In reply to Post #82
just because its summer means nothing. every year around my way in Essex some young lad or lass dies from swimming in the deep pits..the cold either gets them or getting caught up in the weed..
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In reply to Post #82
You tell that to the families that have lost people that haven't worn life jackets.
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In reply to Post #59
I can put another perspective on this
I grew up sea fishing living literally across the road from a beach
Google Shoreham Lighthouse and I lived opposite !
1979 my dad bought me 14ft boat with a Seagull outboard, a small anchor and a set of oars
I used to drag the boat across the beach at 14 years old and go about 2 miles out fishing without a care in the world and without any life jacket .... Totally wrong but my old man was not big on risk assessments to be honest
It seems we live in a world were everyones looking to be offended
If they was doing this mid Jan then jump on them but FFS ..... If they cant get out a lake in mid summer then we are ruined ...... Whats next - everyone laying in a bivvy with an auto inflating life jacket on in case they fall in when they get a run at 3 oclcok in the morning
Give the lads a break ...
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In reply to Post #13
Absolutely hit the nail on the head there mate well said
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In reply to Post #79
Alan Blair always comes across as a really decent guy. Don't know if you never saw it or heard about it, the story of when Gary Bayes set Alan up on the tidal stretch of the Chelmer. Always makes me laugh thinking about Alan waking up in the morning with all his tackle bobbing about in the water as it had risen so much 
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In reply to Post #60
I couldn’t imagine Alan Blair having anything bad to say about anyone
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I stumbled across their stuff years ago and I've watched their content since, back then they were a couple of young lads with an obvious passion for angling and vlogging their fishing exploits way back before they were anything to do with any tackle manufacturers, just a couple of young lads enjoying their fishing and putting their content out there even though it was a bit Heath Robinson at the start, it was refreshing to watch their enthusiasm.
One of their first vlogs I watched they were catching loads of little bits on a French fishing holiday with their parents getting excited like all young kids do just happy to be catching anything, I doubt they had hardly learned to ride a pushbike by then and now they've moved out of home both made what looks like a half reasonable career out of something they had a genuine passion for they've fished all over had some epic fishing in their short lifetimes and fair play to them if they enjoy doing it I wish them all the success, they have honed their skills at both fishing and videography got picked up by two of the largest carp tackle brands not just in this Country but all over Europe, that's the path they chose to walk I would say best of luck to them.
The life Jacket thing I agree with but you can watch a thousand fishing videos and see mistakes in them by anglers who have been at it a lot longer and still at it putting content out just like it, does not make it right I know but it still gets put out there point it out yes but don't condemn them for for it.
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In reply to Post #75
No need to get personal is there. With comment like that, it's little surprise there's so much conflict on here
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In reply to Post #75
Am I the only one who just doesn’t let these things get to me?
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In reply to Post #74
We are close to it now,reading your nonsense 
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In reply to Post #73
"tattoo chavs , face pubes wannabes"
Lol, wtf is all that about anyways? Who's that borning c**t who's always rocking up on sticky baits video's? My word, that guy is the most boring human ever to walk the earth. As soon as he opens his chops, I'm like...off. next video.
Said it before on here, I can't talk, I'd drive you all to suicide watching my nonsense
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I personally think they are good for angling they bring a balance to the tattoo chavs , face pubes wannabes .
The life jacket concerns are very valid. I remember getting the call about Selleck and Dunn on Savay year’s ago..... Devastated !!!! A life jacket would of saved their lives.
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In reply to Post #70
Yes it’s not good with so many younger viewers seeing them as a role models
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In reply to Post #65
Nothing wrong with my mental health thanks. As for jealousy, not one ounce of it on my part. Like I said, I wish them all the best, I just find them boring and not engaging. I have no interest in watching their video's.
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In reply to Post #59
I thought exactly the same out in a boat with no life jackets.
And i should imagine they have a lot of younger viewers. 
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In reply to Post #46
“Man up and get on with it”
Jesus, so much wrong with this utterly backwards sentence. Why don’t you just try and be nice to him?
I generally find my children thrive the more love they receive. Each to their own though, eh.
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In reply to Post #46
taking the piss out of your grandson.... wow big man.
its not the ''carp world'' being over sensitive, its the fact you're being a gob***** mate.
no need for your attitude.
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In reply to Post #64
Once again the "jealousy" card comes out.
Jealous of what? No-one seems to be able to provide a decent answer to this.
If you want to live in the Truman show, with your brother and his Mrs under the same roof, good luck to you. I doubt we'll see much of the footage whereby one of them spent four days on a lake for one small mirror. That is four days of zero content, zero views, zero pence in the coffers. As much as they must love the fishing, too many of them will hurt, hence the need in a lot of their videos to catch quantity over quality.
If you're happy to lose four days wages to blank your nads off and have absolutely nothing to show for it, then fair enough. The vast majority of us though are quite content with doing overnighters and catching a few nice ones along the way. The thought of fishing with a camera lens constantly in my face, or having to walk into a swim four times to get the right in focus shot of a stinging nettle?....you can keep it.
I enjoy their content, and have done so for a few years now. Would I want their life over my own? No chance. I'm quite happy with the mortgage, wife, 2.4 children and a well paid role which affords me to buy what I want and go fishing when I want, not because I have to.
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In reply to Post #63
Id look at your mental health if you shed tears over carl and alex mate that's bad not even trump brings me to tears
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They have skills in both fishing and editing videos ect respect to them... only recently watched thier videos and I'm impressed... any one who knocks them is jelous or just a keyboard....
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Not wanting to buck the trend just for the sakes of it, here goes
I've never found these to guys one bit interesting, not a jot. If I see their stuff come up on YouTube I just skip past it. They bore me to tears. Clearly they've got media savvy and they've done well because of it, as anglers? Nah. No thanks. Dull, dull and more dull. Could it be that I'm not down wid da yoot?
I wish them all the best, I sincerely mean that.
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Check out the Thinking Tackle podcast they featured on. Number 9 or something. That’s how I heard of them. Grounded young lads
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| | | Belch | | Posts: 4131 |  | | MODERATOR | |
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In reply to Post #7
. . .lol Neil you are getting old . . . like some of the rest of us!
To be fair I get your point in terms of annoying 'named' or 'consultant' anglers but you need to at least have a gander at these two lads as IMO they are a breath of fresh air given the rest of the total carp BS out there.
Not only have they paved their own way (from boyhood) by simply recording their exploits and sharing it digitally (this is what all kids do these days by the way) but they're naturally talented, well spoken and inoffensive . . . their content and the way its produced is top notch in terms of visual quality and they capture the 'spirit' of fishing incredibly well.
Its no surprise that Korda have got their teeth into them - they are masters of marketing in this arena and the future of carping needs kids like this as without them it will be full of old codgers if its not already . . .! As others have said - hopefully they'll keep it real and wont sell out too quick . . good luck to them both I say - if you can fish and get paid to do it at such a young age then you're more successful than most of us . . !
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In reply to Post #59
Never watched any of their vids but was interested to hear Alan Blair's view of them in the Carpology interview. Clearly holds them in very high regard and no bitterness toward them for taking Korda's money
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Seems if you don’t blow smoke up there arse they don’t like it. Watched the last video and enjoyed it. Simply commented in a polite manor that life jackets should be worn. Any comments just get deleted. Pathetic really. I could understand if I was rude and abusive. Idiots going out in a weedy lake with no jackets, any lake for that matter
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In reply to Post #57
two very nice and very well brought up lads. They make really good films and do not ask for freebies or handouts. For that reason alone i know they will do well and succeed in fishing. Hats off to the lads and keep up the good work. Some people on this forum need a wedgie from every other member..........they are just keen young lads like i was at that age. Leave them be
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In reply to Post #55
Decided to have a watch last night, and yes pretty enjoyable, no bling, get int net, bosh or dancinging about, buy this it works, or use this rig and bait combined with this hoody and chair, just two mates going fishing. As pointed out earlier their Sirens have been swapped for the new Delks, but I did see they are still using their old Scopes and reels, no DF rods in sight, yey lol. Good luck to them, lets hope they keep their feet on the ground.
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In reply to Post #54
They make some excellent video's, think they went off the boil a bit when with Gash .. but you know.
Glad they are back and making some excellent video's , to be fair I think Korda need them more than they need Korda, ESP / Sticky have stepped up the game with video's out there.
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Yet again, a perfectly good thread/topic that gets off track thanks to a couple of idiots posting unpleasant personal comments. Carl and Alex have built up a remarkable portfolio of films etc through hard work,determination and YES..a big dollop of help from Nash and now Korda. If their films dont interest you..dont watch..if their appearance offends..DONT WATCH...simples  Im sure they wish they didnt have these medical conditions..I very much doubt they asked for them. If you have nothing constructive to say ..well I'll leave the rest to your imagination. Oh and Dave..I do pity your Grandson
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In reply to Post #53
How about a sponsorship from Clearasil?
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In reply to Post #52
I'm not aware of these lads but fair play if they are doing well and not doing other stereotypical teenage stuff like burning Bus stops and killing nuns...
It did strike me that perhaps I should get Korda to sponsor me. I don't own any of their gear; so I could film myself blanking and they could then say it's all because of my lack of their stuff. Genius.
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In reply to Post #51
I did clock that myself and had a chuckle fair play to them and Korda. can’t put people down for getting backing/sponsors surely everyone would be happy to have someone else taking interest in their own ventures, especially ones that save you reaching into your own pockets as much right 😁 
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In reply to Post #48
Nobody is offended, it was just unnecessary.
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In reply to Post #46
**** me who put 20p in this **** head
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In reply to Post #48
Not hurting anyone are they.
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In reply to Post #46
It's just the way of the world now, people love to be offended on behalf of others.
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In reply to Post #46
Can't argue with that.
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I didn't realise the carp world was so PC. After some of the wind ups you guys bragged about, one simple 9iss take about acne and it's like I used the 'N' word to a nun. What's the matter, too cold to go fishing ?
I haven't dissed their work but I do think it's too much about self promotion and that's not for me. That's all. Now run along and squeeze your spots.
And yes, when my grandson gets acne he'll probably be called pizza face. If he crumples and get's his mates to slag me off I'll just tell him to 'man up' and get on with it.
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In reply to Post #41
On a charm offensive today aren’t you? Anyway as this Is a fishing forum I’ll refrain from personal insults and again state that I think the videos are worth a watch. Especially their early day stuff reminds me of me and my mate fishing as kids
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In reply to Post #33
You seem like a lovely man. Will you be equally as rude when your grandsons develop acne?
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In reply to Post #41
You've just proved their point...
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In reply to Post #38
I'm only jealous. If you have acne it means you are young and have years of fishing ahead of you. Get over yourselves you hyper sensitive morons.
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In reply to Post #33
Personally I think their videos are great? As said by a previous poster they are making a living out of their passion so fair play to them? Commenting on their appearance is just unkind.
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In reply to Post #38
Carl, the older brother, has a rather lovely girlfriend - who, incidentally, he met on the bank when she showed an interest in a carp he'd just caught in snowy winter conditions...
Sorry, that wasn't meant to be a reply to the previous post - I clicked the wrong button!
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In reply to Post #33
Your a ****ing bellend.Carl and Alex have been doing this since they were very young.They always come across polite and friendly towards other people.I have watched them for a while and they have made some brilliant videos.
If all you can do is pick up on they suffered with a bit of acne which most teenagers do then it shows what an absolute **** you are 
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In reply to Post #35
u tubing is the way of the world now love it or hate it. that's the way it is, people are making a very good living from posting videos on u tube and getting sponsored to do it.
personally I have no interest in filming anything I do in fishing. I have watched some videos and just think it must take hours to put together, for example a shot of someone pushing a barrow past the camera, first they would have to set the camera up, then walk past it then go back and collect?
if they have the time to do that, then spend hours editing it all good luck to you.
there are 100's of people making videos on u tube about fishing, some are a good watch a lot I have seen are boring as hell, 5 mins of the journey to the lake, 10 mins of setting ect ect
everyone now a days want to make a living from fishing, in reality there are still very few anglers that are full time and get paid to do it.
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In reply to Post #28
I'm looking forward to watching a few.
Fair play to them I say. A couple of youngsters getting off their backsides and doing something constructive should be encouraged.
Doing video documentaries takes a lot of time and effort. I did a video diary a few years ago of an 8 day trip up Kilimanjaro. It took loads of effort during the trip and even more effort to edit when I got home.
I've thought about doing them for fishing but decided against it. I go fishing to relax mainly, taking stills, cut away shots and all that stuff takes the relaxation away for me.
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In reply to Post #34
Fair play to them. Seem nice lads, and enjoy what their doing so all the best to them
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In reply to Post #33
Running down kids for the way they look real big of you.
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In reply to Post #23
Me? I'm gorgeous mate.
If you want to be a known angler you have to promote yourself, it's all voluntary and easy to do. For a while I was well know in the barbel world but backed away from it all as I want to fish for myself and not to provide pictures for a sponsor.
These kids seem decent enough - despite the pizza faces - and present a positive attitude to the sport. I have no doubt they will go far but only because they have hyped themselves. But trust me, the true good angler is often passed on the bank unrecognised.
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I enjoy all there video's, nice to see them catching a full range of fish not just carp. Best of luck to them.
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They are lovely lads, both of them. Good all around anglers too. Not just carp. They caught a few fish on our S2's just before before they joined Nash (or it might have been just after they started there). Very polite and well mannered in any of my dealings/conversations with them.
Good luck to them.
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They have been around for ages considering there age. They are decent anglers too . I think they come across really well on there videos . I wish them all the luck they deserve
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In reply to Post #19
Didn't recognise you as you had a balaclava on all the time
Could have removed it and gave us all a wave!
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In reply to Post #27
Some videos are really good and they have really good editing skills.
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I seem to spend half my life watching fishing on Youtube and I've never heard of them 
Will check them out now though!
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In reply to Post #13
One of the best posts on this forum 
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In reply to Post #20
And I suppose your cosmetically perfect? Nice thing to say.
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In reply to Post #20
That’s nice.
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Fair play to them they’ve done well.
Are ******* annoying tho 😂
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Just Googled them. Now if you'd said the acne boys I'd have caught on more quickly.
As for filming everything you do and becoming 'known' for it - good luck to them....... the egotistical little so and so's. Whatever happened to 'be quiet and go a angling'? Too many people shouting about themselves nowadays.
Now where's the emoji for grumpy old git.
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In reply to Post #16
Not just you fella, I didn’t have a clue on who they are either
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In reply to Post #7
I was on the balcony of the embassy,surprised you didnt see me on tv
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Thank you Boycie for correctly explaining my post.
@ Tranter11 - you read the words in the right order but unfortunately didn’t understand the context.
@ Stevio-Hants - no I’m not drawing attention to myself ( ironically totally the opposite) but using 2 personal examples how most of us just live and exist in total obscurity quite happily.
I posted on the thread due the title - Alex and Carl, with no other explanation given. I had no idea who they were so I read the thread and concluded that they were some anglers of YouTube type fame. Now without wishing to offend the OP, I came to the conclusion that it was being assumed that we all automatically know who these two are and in my case it wasn’t the case. So I made my post in this context.
You will notice that I wished them well as I have no malice towards them as I don’t know them, although I’m not keen on all the carp media these days ( personal view and choice) and I also stated that. I then gave two personal examples of being totally under the radar and happy to be so.
Everyone happy
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In reply to Post #7
I know what you mean fella!
Check some of their films out though.....they are actually rather enjoyable and a breath of fresh air.
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In reply to Post #13
I think there brilliant dedicated anglers who’ve took it upon themselves to enjoy life
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In reply to Post #11
I think he's suggesting that every man & his dog seems to have an involvement with some company or another these days?
If all you do is follow carp angling on social media it would be easy to believe that too, everyone seems to want to associate themselves with a brand or try to wore themselves out for 50p off a kilo or a free packet of swivels.
There are professional whores in the carp world that will flock around any new product in the hope of getting a sniff of a discount in exchange for hash tagging the sh*t out of it or writing a blog about how amazing their embroidered cap is. You don't have to look far to find them.
Although I'm not sure what that's got to do with Carl & Alex.
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In reply to Post #7
Carl and Alex are very good anglers,they fish for loads of different species all over the world.I enjoy watching them as no in your face product promoting,just two brothers loving their fishing and giving a few tips along the way.
I just hope now got korda/guru backing it does not change how they do things
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In reply to Post #10
Don’t understand his points ? because someone’s fished since the 70s should they be known ?
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In reply to Post #7
Makes zero sense ? Why should you be known or be a consultant because of the army ?
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In reply to Post #7
Seems ironic that you are drawing attention to yourself but are poo poo'ing "consultants, media stars or just wannabe’s".
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This is where me and modern carp angling go our separate ways.
I’ve never heard of them.
No disrespect meant and I wish them well but just not my cup of tea along with all the other ‘consultants, media stars or just wannabe’s.
Two things in life which always puzzle me:
I did 22 years in the army but seem to be the only ex squaddy I know of that didn’t have some involvement
( direct or indirect) with the SAS or Special Forces.
I’ve been carp fishing since the 70’s and have never been sponsored, consulted and am a total unknown.
Any others out there?
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Great lads I always enjoy watching there vids,basic but very good!
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I did notice the new alarms. All the best to them.
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In reply to Post #1
I am guessing that being Sponsored rather than employed by Korda will give them greater freedom to pursue their channel whilst having a significant sponsor to help pay the bills and open up more doors to other endorsements from the likes of mainline, Trakker and Diawa, which tends to go hand in hand with Korda affiliation?
I just hope they dont forget the support and opportunity that was given to them from the Team at Nash and burn any bridges, the angling world is a very small place.
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In reply to Post #2
yeah, either way loads more top content!
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In reply to Post #1
I'm guessing this was part of the reason they left Nash.
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I see after leaving Nash to do their own thing, they are now sponsored by Korda. Good move by fairbrass getting them on board.
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