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 #472 23 Sept 2019 at 7.23pm | |   |
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Yeah that's a great choice...
Along the lines of a waiter asking 'and would sir prefer fresh or matured sh*t over his steak?'
There has been so much new information and debunking of misinformation - on both sides - that a third option of remain just has to be included with those two options.
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#471 23 Sept 2019 at 7.14pm | | |
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I’m up for a fresh referendum, defo. Question should be........
The deal offered (or a new one that is offered) or
No deal.
This way, the EU will know that should a good deal not be brokered then a no deal will be inevitable.
At the end of the day they are the only questions possible as the in/out one has been decided.
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#470 23 Sept 2019 at 10.09am | | |
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In reply to Post #468
The democratic vote decided we should leave.... The majority decided we should leave, the numbers of people that voted stay are irrelevant, the final decision was that we should leave.
What part of that do you not agree with? This is basic democracy that we as a country have believed in for hundreds of years (Since 1215 with the Magna Carta).
IF we had another vote and the result was leave what would you then say? Best out of three? then best out of five, just keep having referendums till you get the result YOU want?
There's no point arguing about the details now as it'll never end, what's done is done. The EU's deal, as it is their deal as they decided what went in the final deal offer was never going to be a bed of roses, the EU are fighting for their future, if we had a great deal and did well other countries would leave leading to the breakup of the EU.
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#469 22 Sept 2019 at 1.57pm | | |
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In reply to Post #466
Given that 17m people didn't vote for May's deal (or Johnson's modified version), and 17m didn't vote for no deal, another ref seems logical.
If it were down to me, I'd bin the whole thing, it was only an advisory ref after all .... 'but we were promised it would be implemented blah blah blah' .... take it up with the bloke who made the promise - should be quite easy to find at a Waterstone's near you soon enough.
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#468 22 Sept 2019 at 10.08am | | |
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In reply to Post #466
If the bloody government didn't appreciate the complexities and intricacies of leaving and haven't been able to sort this out in 3 and a half years, what's that saying?
Only way to sort this once and for all is another referendum. Arguments of undemocratic are bogus. If democracy is good, more democracy can't be bad. If the result from that is leave with a deal, that's fair enough. I wouldn't like it, but at the least people would be voting in a much better informed way than the previous ref.
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#467 22 Sept 2019 at 8.22am | | |
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In reply to Post #466
Spot on.
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#466 22 Sept 2019 at 3.33am | | |
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We voted to leave ( I voted stay btw) so we need to leave with a deal or without.
It's called democracy so we'll see how we get on outside the EU. Yep, it might be tough for a few years but we'll get through it.
The arguments about whether we should leave or not ceased with the majority decision so we just need to get out now.
What would you want? Another vote? What if its leave again? Best out of three?...... ..... the majority decision was to leave so let's just get it done.
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#465 21 Sept 2019 at 7.50pm | | |
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In reply to Post #464
So the country goes down the ****ter because 'you're bored'.
Seems reasonable.
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#464 21 Sept 2019 at 7.32pm | | |
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I'd just like to see us go out now no matter if we have a deal or not.....
Bored now.....
I think boris is the man to get us through this rubbish....
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#463 20 Sept 2019 at 8.28am | | |
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In reply to Post #460
He's the Prime Minister ..... whataboutery at it's finest.
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| | | Jon | | Posts: 3490 | | |
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#462 19 Sept 2019 at 9.32pm | | |
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In reply to Post #461
Indeed.
A number of people fell for the bus and voted leave as a result. Obviously no one on here, but it influenced folk none the less, that's undeniable.
Add to that Johnson stating that Turkey was joining the EU, so all their 79 million could soon be arriving (pssst ... they're muslims) which, together with uncle Nigel's 'Breaking Point' poster, got all the racists out (obviously no one on here) - that was more than enough to swing it.
Before the 'blah blah 'project fear' blah 'leaflet' blah' argument ....
Which is worse: parents saying 'you'll get square eyes from watching TV', and the kids vision remaining ok, or parents saying 'Father Christmas is coming with his big sack of presents' , then waking up to **** all on Christmas morning with your mum saying 'You'll survive! Where's yer blitz spirit?'
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#461 19 Sept 2019 at 8.50pm | | |
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In reply to Post #459
That was the slogan on the bus. What may have made people actually think that the NHS would get the whole of the £350m was the Vote Leave poster, and there are plenty of photographs you can find with the current PM in front of them, that read “Let’s give our NHS the £350 million the EU takes every week.”
And Dominic Cummings who came up with the line has written this in The Spectator, “Would we have won without £350m/NHS? All our research and the close result strongly suggests No.“
It’s not an unreasonable amount to imagine a government (probably not this one though) increasing NHS spending by, which is perhaps why it got such traction with those who are maybe not as smart as you.
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#460 19 Sept 2019 at 6.55pm | | |
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Quite funny that people are calling Boris a liar. Show me a politician that doesn't tell lie after lie.. Full of **** the lot of them. Promise one thing, do another. It's been happening for years, and will carry on for many many more yet
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#459 19 Sept 2019 at 5.28pm | | |
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The slogan was 'We send the EU £350 million a week let's fund the NHS instead'
Are you telling me that there were people who actually thought that £350million would go to the NHS each week.
To me it meant we can keep the £350 million and put more into the NHS but not for one moment did I think they meant the whole bloody lot!
PS
I do know we got a rebate out from the £350 million
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#458 19 Sept 2019 at 4.42pm | | |
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In reply to Post #456
No worries on my part, have lived here 29 years and have french citizenship.
Doesn't alter the fact that incredible Bulk Boris has told nothing but lies for the past 4 years since he opened is mouth with lies wrote on a BIG RED BUS.
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