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   Old Thread  #792 10 Dec 2019 at 7.12pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
**** politicians bunch of ****ing idiots

I would like to see a successful business man, one with a proven track record take over the country and look at the real picture instead of these dreamers spouting ****. Run it with the aiming of reducing dept and getting us back on track
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   Old Thread  #791 10 Dec 2019 at 6.01pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Sorry , but i have waited years for this , this is the "haaretz"newspaper , stating the reasons for the Corbyn antisemitism smears ! don't know how to create a link ,

https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-the-contract-on-corbyn-1.8192769/.premium-the-contract-on-corbyn-1.8192769?fbclid=IwAR0lRw0EkUDu3AytPEM5HbYpHXzGTJco6E38LBbGaD8SZ-TTg3gCSZ43LYE

also while i am at it , one of the most undemocratic things i have ever witnessed in the time of an election , and should be illegal in the time of an election , a lot of people have formed opinions and will vote against Corbyn because of these lies , something similar to a D notice was put on the court case , Which the daily mail lost ! but , there are a few good reporters left , thankfully

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/10/break-embargo-expose-press-lies-labour?CMP=share_btn_fb&fbclid=IwAR2And0WbL0GlhaaPwWnFwnnkDnCgOXiKX_-B3oEzXb-kFB0WNl9Zx7dXlc
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   Old Thread  #790 10 Dec 2019 at 11.29am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I think a reset is needed but unlikely because the current system suits the two bigger parties.

Electoral reform is absolutely needed but why would those who repeatedly benefit from the current system change it?

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   Old Thread  #789 10 Dec 2019 at 10.36am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No need to be frightened. Marx was wrong 180 years ago about communism, the way the world's turned out proves that.
On capitalism he seems to be nearer the mark from all those years ago in a very different world.

Marxargued thatCapitalismwas inherentlyunstablebecause: Workerswereabused and disenfranchised. Ascapitalismdeveloped,Marxpredicted, workerswouldbecome increasingly alienated and seek to overthrow thecapitalistclass.


Globalization, technologies replacing labour, unimaginable wealth of a few has since been realised.skewing the balance of capitalism.
MacDonald is a socialist that takes into account Marx view of capitalism, and the Attlee government's view of public ownership of certain parts of the economy,so don't panic.
So after voting for my local independent candidate at the last 2xGE,who I find a decent bloke with the local area at heart I'm voting for my labour MP.
Capitalism needs the counter weight of socialism to make a better country for all in my view. It's difficult to find the correct balance, but worth trying to.
With Brexit round the corner, might as well hit the reset button on the way we look at our great country.
I've no idea what the last 9 years of Tory government has even been trying to achieve, apart from the status quo.
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   Old Thread  #788 9 Dec 2019 at 5.42pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
It's not Brexit that frightens me it's Labour's manifesto and if Labour had a moderate leader instead of a commi Marxist they would of walked this election,the main asset the tory's have is Corbyn as he don't know what he's doing and if McDonald becomes leader he's even worse and openly admits he's a Marxist so if you think Corbyn's dangerous McDonalds on another level
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   Old Thread  #787 9 Dec 2019 at 5.40pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Im afraid that I will have to vote Conservative.......on this occasion.
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   Old Thread  #786 9 Dec 2019 at 3.33pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'm predicting a load of disappointment

It's looking like johnson and his out of touch boys club are going to get in.

He'll get found out of course but by then it'll be too late...


I'm with you on jess Phillips. The only mp I've ever been inspired by enough to actually write to.
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   Old Thread  #785 9 Dec 2019 at 2.35pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Funnily enough I need some euros and was thinking do I buy them now or after the 12th. I think I will wait.
However in the scheme of things a couple of quid on foreign exchange is not life changing.
Makes you wonder though I reckon there maybe a few people who think holiday money, roaming charges, blue passports, gym membership and the price of Starbucks are top priorities in their lives
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   Old Thread  #784 9 Dec 2019 at 1.13pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
So, predictions, anybody?

...Well I dreamt that we will get the Conservatives by default and with a working majority. Both Corbyn and Swinson have become more and more toxic as the campaigning has progressed. I don't see the SNP being as strong and they think they are and neither they not the Lib-Dems will command enough seats to hold the balance of power (either left of right). Farage will creep away with his tail between his legs only to resurface post-election as the head (unappointed!) of his new Reform Party (as if we need another Farage-lead political party!). The DUP's days in the spotlight will be over. Too much will have been made of tactical voting, which will not work this time around.

Brexit will happen by the end of 2020 with a totally ****ed up "deal" the long term (2-3 years) effect of which will be another GE, this time with Jess Philips as leader of the Labour party. Corbyn will be assigned to the history books and will retreat into obscurity along with any resurgent militant Labourites.

Boris's "deal" will see chaos an disorder throughout the UK which will result in him being kicked out after losing his Uxbridge seat. Instead a more moderate leader of the party will need to try trying his or her best to stem the sweeping tide of compassionate Labour policies under Phillips.

Meanwhile Trump will loose the 2020 election to Elizabeth Warren and with her and Jess at the head of the Atlantic Pact countries, we will see a lessening in tensions throughout the world....Then I woke up!

Still, at least the will strengthen making trips to Euroland much cheaper. The will weaken quickly post-election so hold your fire before exchanging s to s prior to the French trip. Wait until it reaches 1.30 then get in quick as it will fall again quickly.

The city will react positively in the short term following the GE but the FTSE will not be able to sustain high numbers for too long. Buy now and get out in 6 months .

Remember...you read it here first!

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   Old Thread  #783 2 Dec 2019 at 3.28pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Mate its not just the Tories its both sides, Labour just as bad,

Agreed...
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   Old Thread  #782 2 Dec 2019 at 2.38pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Mate its not just the Tories its both sides, Labour just as bad, Kahn and JC both at the event but don't even bother attending stabbing scenes anymore.

It was a photo opportunity for both and both are making gestures their prospective governments and budget allowances cant complete!

Aside from this apparently now JC is offering cut price rail tickets and free travel, which the tax payer will pay for so not free. Is it in the grey book or another addition like the WASPI offer that's not costed and they will just add to the borrowing budget!

Hope their Experian score is high enough as they will have changed address within the last 5 years
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   Old Thread  #781 2 Dec 2019 at 1.11pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Of course it's despicable ken.

But given the lack of morality in the current crop of politicians it's unfortunately not a surprise.

I don't think there are any depths they wouldn't stoop to.

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   Old Thread  #780 2 Dec 2019 at 1.05pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Yet more despicable behaviour...and these people want to rule Britain...
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   Old Thread  #779 30 Nov 2019 at 1.00pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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great article - very funny. unlike Gove.

He did so much damage to the education system and then after that, Johnson puts him in charge of Brexit...

if they do win, we are royally screwed
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   Old Thread  #778 30 Nov 2019 at 12.37pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
a damning condemnation of Penfold...I agree with every word of it. He truly makes me feel sick.
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