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scozza

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#765 28 Nov 2019 at 8.36pm

Corbin. Labour will plant 2 billion trees by 2040. That’s 100 million a year, 2 million a week, 300,000 a day, 200 every minute working 24/7

Looks like he’s going for the green peace vote too

fishie

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#764 27 Nov 2019 at 2.47pm

In reply to Post #763
No probs, it’s only politics 😀 could be worse could be carping 😀

ocelot

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#763 26 Nov 2019 at 9.20pm

In reply to Post #760
I'm not trying to dig you out mate. Just pointing out it's a minefield the criticism of parties and leaders at GE's.
Mostly from press and hired campaign teams trying to form our opinion, for their own benefit, not ours.

Tom81

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#762 26 Nov 2019 at 8.38pm

on another note it according to the Financial Times 163 Economists have come out in support of Labour's manifesto.

Tom81

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#761 26 Nov 2019 at 8.36pm

In reply to Post #759
I am slightly sceptical about much of the antisemite label corbyn gets branded with, and we need to be wary of getting to a place where no legitimate criticism of the Israeli government can be made without being accused of antisemitism.

fishie

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#760 26 Nov 2019 at 8.29pm

In reply to Post #759
Go ahead I have nothing to hide, maybe not told truth on bait I have caught on and sometimes eat to much 😀

The investigation may exonerate Labour but why has this blossomed under JC with MP’s leaving and citing this problem

ocelot

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#759 26 Nov 2019 at 7.07pm

In reply to Post #758
So this neutral body is investigating them and you've convicted them

Should this body investigate you

fishie

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#758 26 Nov 2019 at 6.57pm

In reply to Post #756
Still doesn’t change that a leading human rights champion and now member of the House of Lords found Labour innocent but a neutral national human rights body is now investigating them!

I have just read that the Muslim Council have again criticised the Tories. As I said eArlier it’s Top Trumps politics, the Liberal Democrat’s have posted out 2 papers one clearly stating it’s from LD and one maskerading as independant but from LD. Didn’t they decry the Tories and twitter as fraud but potentially do the same?

mal

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#757 26 Nov 2019 at 6.30pm

In reply to Post #756
The saddest and most disgraceful thing is that our 2 main parties offer a choice of antisemitism or islamophobia. ...

The old BNP lot must be loving it.

A vote for either is condoning them and neither is fit for office

ocelot

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#756 26 Nov 2019 at 6.16pm

In reply to Post #755
So you think there is a difference between anti-Judaism and anti- Zionist? Many people don't. I think you're treading the same path as the man and party who your post was aimed at criticising.

fishie

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#755 26 Nov 2019 at 3.54pm

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It’s because he hasn’t given leadership or been proactive against those members who don’t understand or want to understand the difference between Judaism and Zionist. Momentum and the Labour Party are so Pro Palastine it clouds there judgement on what they say and do. JC laying the wreath for palastinian terrorists who committed crimes against Jews is an example, JC could have said he made a mistake of judgement but no he says I wasn’t there at the time the wreaths were laid , but photos show he was!

Baroness Chakrabati carries out an internal investigation for the Labour Party and found nothing and was promoted to the House of Lords. Now they are under official investigation only them and I think the BNP or NF are the only 2 parties ever to be officially investigated.

There is a big difference between condemn and condone but he somehow blurs the lines to suit his own needs!

mal

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#754 25 Nov 2019 at 10.13pm

In reply to Post #753
I think it's because, despite that list, he didn't act as quickly or decisively enough to dismiss examples of anti Semitic behaviour in his own party.

There was a rabbi interviewed last week or so and he made a very simple but very accurate point about the fact that it's been right wing organisations and political parties that have been targeting the Jewish community for many years ...

spanker

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#753 25 Nov 2019 at 10.01pm

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this is what all the media outlets have access too , so why do they still call him racist anti Semite ?

• Corbyn organises Apr 1977 defence of Jewish-populated Wood Green from a neo-Nazi march.
• EDM 987, Corbyn campaigned to protect Jewish cemetery from sale to property developers.
• EDM 3933, 7 Nov 1990: Corbyn denounced the rise of anti-Semitic publications.
• EDM 356, 25 June 1992, Corbyn censures a Holocaust denier, warning antisemitism is on the rise
• EDM 435, 6 July 1992, Corbyn slammed Rupert Murdoch for paying £83,000 for the Goebbels Diaries
• EDM 706, 2 Nov. 1992, Corbyn is main sponsor on a motion condemning the National Front for insulting Holocaust victims by laying wreaths at the cenotaph
• EDM 1474, 25 Feb. 1993, Jeremy signed a motion condemning rise of Nazism in Huntingdon
• EDM 1364, 21 June 1994, Jeremy Corbyn expresses fear antisemitism is on the rise
• EDM 1413, 29 June 1994, Corbyn signed a motion calling on the Director of Public Prosecutions to do more to tackle antisemitism
• EDM 634, 11 April 2000: Corbyn denounces David Irving for being a Holocaust denier.
• EDM 1124, 6 Nov 2000: Corbyn signs motion paying tribute to ‘British Schindler’, Bill Barazetti, for saving the lives of Jewish children in World War II.
• EDM 742, 28 Jan 2002: Corbyn praises football clubs for commemorating Holocaust Memorial Day.
• EDM 1233, 30 April 2002: Corbyn is primary sponsor of a motion condemning antisemitic vandalism of Finsbury Park Synagogue
• May 2002: Corbyn helps organise vigil for Finsbury Park Synagogue after antisemitic attack.
• EDM 1691, 23 July 2002: Corbyn denounces attack on a synagogue in Swansea.
• EDM 123, 26 Nov 2003: Corbyn condemns attacks on two synagogues in Istanbul.
• EDM 461, 21 January 2004: Corbyn signs motion condemning the French government’s moves to ban religious symbols—including the Jewish kippa—in French schools.
• EDM 646, 23 February 2004: Corbyn lambasts the annual rise in antisemitic incidents.
• EDM 717, 26 February 2004: Corbyn signs motion praising Simon Wiesenthal for bringing Nazi perpetrators of the Holocaust to justice.
• EDM 1613, 8 September 2004: Corbyn co-sponsors motion expressing concern over the future of the United Synagogue Pension Scheme.
• EDM 1699, 11 Oct 2004: Corbyn signs motion condemning arbitrary attacks on civilians in both Israel and Palestine.
• EDM 343, 16 June 2005: Corbyn censures the desecration of a Jewish cemetery in West Ham.
• EDM 1774, 8 Mar 2006: Corbyn signs motion condemning an Iranian newspaper for soliciting cartoons about the Holocaust.
• EDM 1267, 16 Apr 2006: Corbyn signs motion condemning Bryan Ferry for antisemitic remarks.
• EDM 2414, 26 June 2006: Corbyn signs motion praising British war veterans for their efforts to combat the Holocaust.
• EDM 2705, 10 Oct 2006: Corbyn marks the 70th anniversary of the Battle of Cable Street.
• EDM 271, 14 Nov 2007: Corbyn co-sponsors motion urging further efforts to address poverty and social exclusion in the Jewish community of East London.
• EDM 1453, 12 May 2008: Corbyn salutes the memory of the Jewish heroes of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising.
• EDM 2350, 27 Oct 2008: Corbyn marks the 70th anniversary of Kristallnacht.
• EDM 605, 27 Jan 2009: Corbyn welcomes action against antisemitism on university campuses.
• EDM 917, 26 Feb 2009: Corbyn signs motion condemning antisemitism on the internet.
• EDM 1175, 24 March 2009: Corbyn pays tribute to British citizens who rescued Jewish people during the Holocaust.
• EDM 2145 22 Oct. 2009 Corbyn condemns BBC for giving air time to ‘holocaust denying’ BNP
• EDM 337, 2 December 2009: Corbyn signs motion condemning discrimination against minorities, including Jews, in Iran.
• EDM 850, 9 February 2010: Corbyn calls for investigation into antisemitism on Facebook.
• EDM 891, 22 February 2010: Corbyn urges UK Gov to re-settle Yemeni Jews in Britain.
• EDM 908, 27 Oct 2010: Corbyn pays tribute to the late-Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin.
• EDM 1527, 3 Mar 2011: Corbyn condemns the antisemitic remarks of John Galliano.
• EDM 2870, 14 Mar 2012: Corbyn condemns the sale of Nazi memorabilia in Bristol.
• EDM 2866, 14 Mar 2012: Corbyn co-sponsors motion condemning antisemitism in Latvia.
• EDM 2899, 20 Mar 2012: Corbyn condemns an attack on a Jewish school in Toulouse.
• EDM 168, 12 June 2012: Corbyn denounces antisemitism in Polish & Ukrainian football
• EDM 195, 13 June 2012: Corbyn co-sponsors motion calling on the BBC to reverse its decision to drop a Jewish community programme (‘Jewish Citizen Manchester’) from its schedule.
• EDM 1133, 1 Mar 2013: Corbyn signs motion condemning antisemitism in sport.
• 1 October 2013: Corbyn is one of the few MPs to publicly defend the late-Ralph Miliband from Daily Mail antisemitism.
• June 2015: Corbyn participates in ceremony to commemorate the founding of the North London Synagogue in Islington.
• EDM 165, 22 June 2015: Corbyn denounces a neo-Nazi rally planned for Golders Green, where many Jews live, and calls for protection of local residents.
• 25 June 2015: Corbyn is leads calls for counter-demonstration in defence of Jewish residents in Golders Green. The neo-Nazi march is re-routed.
•

scozza

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#752 25 Nov 2019 at 8.08pm

In reply to Post #751
Well said

I don’t have a problem at all helping people who are genuine, like most I pay a large chunk of tax and NI and for the right cause I would contribute a bit more!

I do have a serious problem funding scrounging ****s

We need to focus on getting this country back on track, not supporting them

Goose

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#751 25 Nov 2019 at 8.01pm

In reply to Post #749
If you haven't paid in you shouldn't get paid out and all payouts should be based on contributions over your working life. Only exceptions should be those with valid medical conditions.


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