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 #32 17 Dec 2018 at 9.37am | |   |
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In reply to Post #30
We now have an idea about how damaging Brexit could be which is totally different to the message that people were told.
Boris was driving about in a coach and singing about and how better off we'd be. It does now appear that the Brexiteers just lied their way through the campaign.
I'd say there are grounds for the referendum vote result to be anulled due to misinformation and finance breaches by the Brexiteers. ( google brexit vote camapign illegal and you'll get plenty of information ).
We'll see what happens come next March and what will be will be. The MP's will certainly have sweaty palms before voting for deal or no deal on the agreement being proposed now that they have an idea of how they will damage the country with their vote.
ps. When you get banged up for joining in a riot just remember your costing all of us money keeping you in that cell and prosecuting you.
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#31 16 Dec 2018 at 5.09pm | | |
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In reply to Post #30
No there won’t as this nations too soft and will carry on taking the (0(k until the end of time.
Edit - I hope there is though as this 5h1t country needs a good kicking off along with all politicians getting a good slap.
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#30 16 Dec 2018 at 5.03pm | | |
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If we stay in, there will be riots across the country. It will be the tipping point.
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#29 16 Dec 2018 at 4.48pm | | |
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Camermoron and his old Etonian sidekick who got us into all this mess in the first place are now living it up on the proceeds of their memoirs. Should be a warning to all of us not to put our faith or trust in posh-sounding, upper class twits and/or old Etonians...They are only in it for one thing: THEMSELVES!
Be warned.
"Don't vote. It only encourages them."
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#28 15 Dec 2018 at 9.27pm | | |
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The MP's are supposedly the peoples representatives and got themselves elected on an out means out manifesto, both Conservatives and Labour, they then get elected and then discover they have a concience and maybe the public wasn't right and we should remain!
First rule of interviewing and negotiation is don't ask a question you don't know the answer to. The EU kicked Cameron in the arse and forced him into offering the referendum, the establishment thought project fear would scare the electorate into voting stay, they banked on this!
How many times was the UK told not to approach the representatives of the other EU states whilst negotiating but the EU were open and receptive to Corbyn, Sturgeon, Cable and others visiting to discuss the UK's views and possible links that could be formed!
The "deal" as it stands was not negotiated by MP's, Ministers or the PM, it was negotiated by faceless, nameless and career civil servants who at the end of there careers will get a gold plated pension and probably a knighthood.
But hey ho the deal is going no where, negotiations have faltered and this is of such importance Parliament breaks up for Xmas holidays next week and wont be back until January. if it was a private business going downhill all involved would work through to stabilise the issues. But not our elected representatives apparently 
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#27 15 Dec 2018 at 4.46pm | | |
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In reply to Post #26
Our MP's have not captulated. The EU have a single goal and that is to get the best out of Brexit and that means their looking to cane us as hard as possible for spoiling their little party. It does not matter how hard any UK politician tries to negotiate their onto a loser.
8% worse growth is a recession.....
The chances of all of the politicians joining together in unity to secure a better deal is just about nil. The majority will be looking for political gain at every opportunity and it would collapse. It didn't really matter what came out of negotiations, this outcome was to be expected. It didn't matter what May brought back she was never going to keep everyone happy. We should be glad that she decided to take this unwinnable task on.
Even if every single politician stood behind May and demanded a better deal the EU would tell them where to get off, this is the EU fighting for it's life....
Parliament did not vote for the UK to leave the EU, it was the voters, the politicians have tried to get a decent deal but the EU are playing to win. Is this not very obvious??
Now we have a deal that isn't as good as hoped people are throwing their toys out of the pram and blaming May..?... Nobody would have got a better deal. This is what was voted for so we all just have to accept it. Simple as.
The alternative ( a no deal Brexit ) is a likely outcome and it seems the general consensus that a no deal Brexit will damage the country the most. We all just have to sit back and accept it and what will come.
But just remember. The majority voted for this. If you want someone to blame for this mess then blame the Brexiteers.
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#26 15 Dec 2018 at 11.24am | | |
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In reply to Post #23
What happens next March is anyone's guess but it looks like it's more likely going to have a nagative impact at least in the short term at best, if we have a no deal it's expected to be a worse. If this happens then house price may take a hit, the bank of England guess it'll be to the tune of 30% for a no deal brexit so any buyers would be daft to buy now. COULD, MIGHT, MAYBE THIS IS THE WORSE POSSIBLE THING THAT COULD HAPPEN JUST LIKE WORLD WAR 3 STARTING AFTER THE LEAVE VOTE!
Is it the knobs in power that caused this problem? No it wasn't. IN ONE WORD - DEMOCRACY
Will the EU do us a good deal so we come out laughing? Don't be stupid, it's in their best interest to deal us the worst deal possible to deter others from leaving. THIS I AGREE WITH TO MANY POLITICIANS WITH THEIR SNOUTS IN THE GRAVY TRAIN TROUGH
Would having a different leader or different party leading the country make a difference? Nope it would not. Whoever is in charge will be dealing with the same EU negotiators. THIS I AGREE WITH TO MANY POLITICIANS WITH THEIR SNOUTS IN THE GRAVY TRAIN TROUGH
The people that voted for this should accept the blame for it.WHAT THE DEMOCRATIC MAJORITY WHO HAVE TRUSTED THERE ELECTED MP's TO NEGOTIATE NOT CAPITULATE
In the short term we can reasonably expect financial instability, value of the pound dropping leading to inflation in just about everything, businesses leaving the UK, drops in UK tax revenue which will lead to tax rises on top of inflation etc etc JUST LIKE THE MARKETS HAVE DONE FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF HUNDRED YEARS I SUPPOSE THE SOUTH SEA BUBBLE, BLACK WEDNESDAY and THE BANKS COLLAPSING IS BREXITs FAULT
All of this of course is speculation as nobody really knows whats going to happen but I don't hear Brexiteers predicting financial growth, house price rises, tax drops, stability etc... In fact we hear almost nothing from Brexiteers except them slagging off anybodies predictions of what will happen. But they don't have any predictions of their own..... NO BUT THE BANK OF ENGLAND WITH THEIR WORSE CASE SCENARIO SAID NO DEAL WOULD BE 8% WORSE, BUT ITS STILL 8% WORSE 'GROWTH'!
I see that someone has now suggested a cross party agreement to secure a better negotiated BREXIT, this should have been done since Day 1 of negotiations without CORBYN, STURGEON, and all the others, going behind the negotiators backs to undermine the UK's negotiators.
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#25 15 Dec 2018 at 10.46am | | |
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House prices are not going to drop by 30%..... 
Supply and demand will see to that as we simply don't have enough houses and builders will sit on land rather than build and sell for much less..... 
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#24 15 Dec 2018 at 10.43am | | |
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In reply to Post #23
I agree with your first sentence but after that I could dissect all the rest but I won't other than to say I don't think house price rises are a good thing.
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#23 14 Dec 2018 at 10.21pm | | |
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In reply to Post #22
What happens next March is anyone's guess but it looks like it's more likely going to have a nagative impact at least in the short term at best, if we have a no deal it's expected to be a worse. If this happens then house price may take a hit, the bank of England guess it'll be to the tune of 30% for a no deal brexit so any buyers would be daft to buy now.
Is it the knobs in power that caused this problem? No it wasn't.
Will the EU do us a good deal so we come out laughing? Don't be stupid, it's in their best interest to deal us the worst deal possible to deter others from leaving.
Would having a different leader or different party leading the country make a difference? Nope it would not. Whoever is in charge will be dealing with the same EU negotiators.
The people that voted for this should accept the blame for it.
In the short term we can reasonably expect financial instability, value of the pound dropping leading to inflation in just about everything, businesses leaving the UK, drops in UK tax revenue which will lead to tax rises on top of inflation etc etc
All of this of course is speculation as nobody really knows whats going to happen but I don't hear Brexiteers predicting financial growth, house price rises, tax drops, stability etc... In fact we hear almost nothing from Brexiteers except them slagging off anybodies predictions of what will happen. But they don't have any predictions of their own.....
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#22 14 Dec 2018 at 1.14pm | | |
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Don't leave it too late if those knobs at Westminster **** it up they'll be an influx of immigrants and the prices will rocket 
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#21 13 Dec 2018 at 3.18pm | | |
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In reply to Post #17
It’s a first time buyers market at the moment, I’m ready to go, after a couple of fall throughs I’m sitting tight for the moment as the prices keep going down.  I’m headed to lingfield but most of the Surrey prices keep dropping too
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#20 13 Dec 2018 at 9.29am | | |
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Ive got an old microcat , probably works, I'm in.
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#19 30 Nov 2018 at 10.14am | | |
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House prices are a lot more than 30% overpriced... I'm happy with huge house price drops by any amount as I'm payed up and have no debt.
Negative equity has zero impact for genuine house buyers that are in it for the long term unless your looking to accrue more debt straight away which will have to then wait, the only people that are affected are people looking for a quick turnaround, quick profit.....
Brexit does have unforeseen positives.
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#18 29 Nov 2018 at 5.35pm | | |
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In reply to Post #17
No,but you could afford one in the southwest,and have enough money left over to eat,the locales'.....will hate you though til you pass on ...😁
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