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In reply to Post #81
Hi Jon,
I see, so if you make a spelling mistake, that automatically makes your argument null and void.
But, wait a minute, I see you don't know how to spell ********, so the same applies to you too, doesn't it?
Like a lot of remainers, you play the scaremonger card and just insult the opposition, without giving any convincing evidence to support your view.
Your statement that Minford is the only economist to support no deal is simply untrue.
For those with an open mind who are interested, I suggest you Google ' Economists for free trade ' where you will see those who support no deal and you can read their reports.
Just one question Jon.
What is your opinion of the Coudenhove Kalergi plan?
BB.
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#84 19 Jan 2019 at 5.39pm | | |
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Being as I started this thread I vote for global thermo nuclear war to remove all carbon units infesting the planet 🌏
It’s the only way to be sure .
And being as cockroaches seem to survive such a holocaust the politicians probably will as well 😔☹️
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#83 19 Jan 2019 at 12.13pm | | |
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In reply to Post #82
Rather apt picture that....
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#82 19 Jan 2019 at 11.35am | | |
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Don't think Corbyn is helping matters with his stance
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#81 18 Jan 2019 at 11.26pm | | |
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In reply to Post #78
Patrick Minford? No 'd'. Do you really expect anyone to take your opinion seriously if you can't even spell the bloke's name correctly? Just about sums up the no-deal supporters. You're wrong. You can't be bothered to check the facts, and you probably don't care that you're wrong.
Minford is the only person who vaguely qualifies as an 'economist' that thinks no deal will be ok ... unless you're in agriculture or manufacturing, in which case, you'll be 'wound down like the Uk coal and steel industries'. The rest of the global community of economists are gritting their teeth and averting their gaze like the drinkers in a pub would when some bloke announces he's going to eat a shot glass.
Almost every other expert, from the UK or any other country, says he's talking bollcks and it will be detrimental to the UK.
This 'we are in the driving seat' crap may have fooled a fair proportion of the electorate 2 years ago ... but do you really still believe this cobblers now?
A 'no deal' brexit will have the worst effect upon those poor buggers who are worst placed to handle it, while the reasonably well-off who are obsessed with the war, despite never having to fight anything other than gay marriage and type 2 diabetes (Boyle, 2108) will cry foul at the 'EU Bullies' when agreements dissolve on March 29 and it slowly dawns on then that it's not going well.
Pathetic politicians have led the UK to this point. Pathetic opposition hasn't challenged them. Pathetic voters think all their ills are the fault of those pesky Europeans, rather than it being down to the posh blokes who are telling them who to hate.
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#80 18 Jan 2019 at 3.45pm | | |
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On the face of it - what you say appears correct.
My logic tells me though that if that was the best option, or even a potentially viable option, it would be on the table at least and not totally rebuked as it has been.
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#79 17 Jan 2019 at 10.05pm | | |
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In reply to Post #78
I agree with what you say.
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#78 17 Jan 2019 at 8.58pm | | |
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Hi All,
Providing our government prepares properly and follows the advice of prof Patrick Mindford, I think that no deal is the best option. We save £39 billion and go to free trade. We don't put tariffs or non tariff barriers on our imports which means cheaper products for our consumers. If the EU put tariffs on our exports that puts the burden on their consumers. And if the EU cause problems at ports and customs, they shoot themselves in the foot because they export £80 billion more goods to us than us to them. Same if they ban our lorries because of licences. We can do the same to them. Same with aviation.
Forget the scaremongering, we are in the driving seat. We could slash corporation tax and suck in their investment. If we withdrew their access to the city for a couple of weeks we could collapse their economy.
What we need is a strong leader to face up to them.
BB.
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#77 17 Jan 2019 at 8.56pm | | |
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46906046
Lol. EU makes no deal brexit plan.
If parliament won't accept the deal and neither Tories or Labour will accept a no deal then how on earth are they going to move this forward?......
Attitudes to the deal need to radicially change or an extension to article 50 coming up methinks..
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#76 17 Jan 2019 at 8.30pm | | |
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In reply to Post #73
Cancelling Brexit .... slim chance methinks..
Another referendum.... Last resort.... but this might happen.... Now that we have a better idea how bad Brexit is likely to be chances are a second vote would keep us in the EU...
But we don't know how bad Brexit is, this is just the negotiations not actual Brexit!
Its still all ifs, could and might be's!
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#75 17 Jan 2019 at 8.25pm | | |
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In reply to Post #74
John Major  it was Heath and Wilson in the seventies
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#74 16 Jan 2019 at 11.57pm | | |
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In reply to Post #73
Worse thing we ever done; sign up to this sh*te, back then. Was it John Major?
Dunno, don't care, but we truly have our Balls between two bricks. 
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#73 16 Jan 2019 at 7.54pm | | |
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So.. The end isn't nigh for the government after all.
The EU's offered Brexit deal is dead....
Options are for the EU to make concessions quickly... unlikely but who knows.
Extend article 50 and try and make a better deal with the EU.... unlikely but who knows.
Leave without a deal isn't accepted by either Tories or Labour so that's not going to happen no matter who is in charge and it's not in the UK's best interest due to the expected outcome.....
Cancelling Brexit .... slim chance methinks..
Another referendum.... Last resort.... but this might happen.... Now that we have a better idea how bad Brexit is likely to be chances are a second vote would keep us in the EU...
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#72 28 Dec 2018 at 4.32pm | | |
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In reply to Post #71
So no change then in the long run. First it goes up then drops to what it is now?
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#71 28 Dec 2018 at 4.28pm | | |
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If the cost to go to France to fish goes up then the numbers of visitors will drop... Then we'll see prices drop... hopefully.
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