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nine0six

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#125 28 Jan 2019 at 7.07pm

In reply to Post #121
I’m neither thick or racist. Nor have I got into bed with any. Their are morons on both sides of this issue.

The choice wasn't binary. Yes, there may well be morons on the remain side but we know where all the racists are don't we? If you are happy to be on the same side as them, fine, perhaps they share your ideas for where the country goes next.

carpstar40

Posts: 2401

#124 28 Jan 2019 at 2.22pm

Same old argument going back and forth from a remoaner's point of view if you want to come out of the EU your either a racist or too thick to lace up your flip flops.

fishie

Posts: 1494

#123 27 Jan 2019 at 5.03pm

In reply to Post #122
Totally agree with this post

On leaving I am in no doubt it will be troublesome to start with, but with companies and their desires for profits the barriers/hurdles and difficulties will be overcome. The desire of people and companies to make money transcends countries borders and political leanings!

The EU has made countries lazy and dependant on its inward facing monopoly, The EU hierarchy negotiates for all, they stipulate what can and can't be brought, and from whom, and all unelected managers with a token voted for MEP's to rubber stamp their decisions.

Project fear has now reached new heights with the threat of Martial Law! its leaving a trading cartel FFS not World War 3. All under legislation dated 2004 but I'm sure Brexit will get the blame for this as well

Butterbean35

Posts: 764

#122 27 Jan 2019 at 4.02pm

In reply to Post #121
Hi Bradford,
But the thing is, some remainers do tar us all with the same brush. It's called identity politics, which is the policy of the far left to create division.
The tiresome insults are evidence that they have nothing positive to say to promote their opinions.
I've yet to hear any convincing reasons for wanting to stay in the EU.
Re trade, I have a question:- we have a trade deficit with the EU of approx £80 billion per year. In what way does it make any sense to pay £10 billion plus a year for the privilege? Which other countries in the world pay to trade with the EU? On WTO rules, the average tariff is 5%, and as such, the EU will have to pay us £ billions in tariffs, to sell to us. But the best policy for us is to set no tariffs or non tariff barriers and go to free trade, and trade at world prices. Our imports would be cheaper to the benefit of all.
BB.

bradford

Posts: 654

#121 27 Jan 2019 at 2.49pm

In reply to Post #116
I’m neither thick or racist. Nor have I got into bed with any. Their are morons on both sides of this issue. Please don’t tar us all with the same brush.
As for what are you going to get out of this - whatever you want. You will still be able to work/live in any of these other 27 countries as long as you bring something to the table and contribute to the country you choose(which is how it should be). The doors won’t be closed just because we have left. Again with the racist thing - I know of so many different people who voted out including doctors and teachers and to say they are either thick and/or racist is laughable. I like to think that a high percentage of both sides voted for there own reasons, rightly or wrongly, and only time will tell wether we rise or fall. We will see.

dannyuk32

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#120 27 Jan 2019 at 11.10am

In reply to Post #104
Immigration has cost police\security (the Government, us), Billions. (Anti terrorism) .

scozza

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#119 27 Jan 2019 at 10.51am

In reply to Post #118
Yes

And I know your going to say in the European Union we can’t but I’m sure we can

And that should be a nudge towards Brexit if need be, not just pure ignorance, racists

I still cannot belive as a nation we were looking at Brexit without a clue what was going to come out of the other end other than a few people’s bull**** touting for votes

Sir_Blankalot

Posts: 12951

#118 27 Jan 2019 at 10.39am

In reply to Post #117
What you are saying is you want controlled immigration and that's the aim..

scozza

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#117 27 Jan 2019 at 10.08am

In reply to Post #116
That’s a great post

For me Farage, the lager swinging toff wants beating with a rubber hose for instigating it and causing all this uproar for the sake of winning votes. Like you say, he got all the mindless idiots on board who think it’s all down to immigrants.

Whilst I can say I’m not to keen of the situation myself, like you said, they do the jobs that the lazy British people will not. If they come here and contribute I’m happy with that, but...

Things like the NHS seriously concern me, it is been milked to death and if that goes pop, get ready for some proper charges and deductions from your salary.

I pay a lot in tax and if that’s going to the right people I don’t have a problem with that at all. The thought of it supporting sponging ****s makes my **** itch. And I do feel truly sorry for anybody who really wants a job and cannot find one

Same as immigration, a points scoring system, this need to be the same for the NHS, the level of healthcare based on contribution for anybody not born in this country, 3year, 5 year and 10 year.

And don’t get me going about crime. Any immigrant who commits a crime should be packed off in a plane and dropped over the country they came from, without a parachute. Raping this country

It’s our own policy’s we need to sort out to protect what we have got, there’s a reason they all want to come here. Make it pointless for them unless they are working and it will stop all the problems, stop them milking it, they will go and **** somewhere else up then

Contribute or out is my feelings, that’s the lazy British ****s too

nine0six

Posts: 2572

#116 27 Jan 2019 at 9.09am

In reply to Post #115
The difference this time is that people have voted to be like your dad, not had that hardship forced upon them.

Face it, you’ve been sold a lie, you’ve stood shoulder to shoulder with racists and the thickest people the country has to offer as though thick racists were the pathfinders to the sunlit uplands. If you’re not thick and you’re not racist then why have you got into bed with them?

What exactly are the benefits for me? What do I get in return for my family losing the right to live, work and study in 27 countries?

This country has an aging population and low birth rate. We need immigration to help harvest the crops, care for the elderly and do the things that need doing but British people seem to find impossible to take on.

bradford

Posts: 654

#115 27 Jan 2019 at 6.32am

In reply to Post #107
Hmmm. Yes your post is offensive to the leave voter. I have heard leave voters being called many things and to be honest some are true as I have heard some horrible things come from leave voters mouths. However, you my friend are no different, you just voted remain, that’s the difference. What you have to understand is that some people don’t care about money, as when you talk about people not knowing about the disaster they are heading for with voting for brexit you are talking about money. I’m willing to bet that hardly no one thought about money when they voted leave as this was very low on their list of priorities. There is more to life than money you know.
I voted to leave. To be honest right now, if the freedom of movement was stopped then I may be persuaded to change my mind (although I would prefer to be 100% in charge of my own country as well to be fair) I say this because I can’t see how it’s helping the EU? What I mean is, if we allow (a few other countries too) a lot of young working individuals from a country to work in ours then how is the country they have left going to be able to grow a strong economy? The country they go to then have to house them and look after them putting a huge strain on all services involved, how is that any good for either country? Think about it, who on earth thought that that would be a good idea? If you don’t agree then you are blind as it’s failing as we talk! Our services are broke, we don’t have enough houses and the country’s that these people are coming from are still **** holes. Honestly, it’s the dumbest thing ever thought of.
I think I have also said this before. About 18 years ago my dad got made redundant from a well paid job. The EU gave his company a few very good incentives to move abroad. This was part of their scheme to help prop up other economies. My dad had 4 children, mortgage, bills, car, food etc to pay for. As he was 52 years old he couldn’t get in a job where he could get anywhere near the same money. He ended up going to River Island warehouse where he earns £13 grand a year. This was about a quarter of what he was on. We suffered. My dad ended up getting an evening job and then working on a Saturday done in London doing industrial carpet cleaning. We hardly saw him.
I told you that last bit as it is about your favourite thing which is money. I told you that because even though my dad ended up with less he just rolled his sleeves up and cracked on. Maybe, just maybe this is what we are all going to have to do. Dont worry about what you may not have, appreciate what you have got.

nine0six

Posts: 2572

#114 26 Jan 2019 at 8.22pm

In reply to Post #112
It wasn't the EU, our government didn't want to stop it

We have a 'kinda' points based system (the five-tiers system) for non-EU immigration. Again, enforcement is poor as our government (current and former) don't want to stop cheap labour coming in.

As with most anti-EU rhetoric, the truth is far more complicated. Now if you'll excuse me, I've got to pop on my sandals, get in the Volvo and grab the last copy of the Guardian and some vegan falafel from the Co-op.

ralph69

Posts: 10042

#113 26 Jan 2019 at 12.35pm

In reply to Post #107
You're the stupid one , pillock

Ex_User

Posts: 12866

#112 26 Jan 2019 at 12.25pm

In reply to Post #111
Ultimately, a points based system like the uk or oz is what’s needed. Our government could have implemented it but under eu rules and regs we’ve not been allowed, this is only assumed and only a guess on my part because I cannot see any other logical reason than the club stopping such measures.

Thetangler

Posts: 234

#111 26 Jan 2019 at 11.51am

I am all for immigration people who have something to bring to the uk and work and respect the uk culture but sadly it has failed we now live in a society where. for many many years people have been keeping within there own communities and getting treated by there own rules it's has been happening for years young girls getting forced into marriage female mutilation etc it's been going on for years the social services would step in if was happening and the family taken to court if they were British, immigration can work but bringing in on mass a culture that is backwards and hell bent on forcing people to accept it is crazy just look at Sweden rape capital of Europe and Germany has already seen the effects of this type of immigration where they are now being told how to dress in some parts as not to offend the people that have immigrated there trust me mass immigration from Africa and middle eastern countries to the uk won't work it's a fact this has been one of the big factors in leave voters wanting out its not doctors and nurses that's coming it's the working class that will be affected and before anyone starts pointing the finger I have friends that are not from the uk and they have come here and done well this is where I get my information from regarding there communities and what's going on within them


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