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#1231 24 Sept 2020 at 10.03am | | |
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As long as it's not swimming in garlic I don't mind 
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#1230 24 Sept 2020 at 10.00am | | |
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.. but they'll be made of horses.
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#1229 24 Sept 2020 at 9.59am | | |
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But the French burgers won't be dripping in grease, they will come with a side salad as well, they won't eat inside their cabs they'll bring out a picnic table and napkins 
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#1228 24 Sept 2020 at 9.56am | | |
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I expect there will be, yes.
Good news for French burger vans too.
Win - win
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#1227 24 Sept 2020 at 9.52am | | |
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Won't they be a similar tailback for EU lorries in Calais trying to get into the UK?
Thanks for bringing this thread back up to the top, I enjoyed reading my post#1224 again 
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#1226 24 Sept 2020 at 9.48am | | |
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Not only does the UK get to control its borders, it gets to create a new one around Kent
Queues of up to 7k trucks and lots of lovely new lorry parks? ... Good news for the local burger van owners
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#1225 14 Jul 2020 at 10.56pm | | |
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#1224 14 Jul 2020 at 10.17pm | | |
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I don't suffer from superiority complex so I have no problem in saying yes I do ask for advice and yes that's my best cast.
No off to bed with you, you look tired after a day of being better than everyone else.
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#1223 14 Jul 2020 at 8.32pm | | |
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No wonder you're after advice on where to place a rig on a holiday lake stuffed full of fish if that's your best cast 
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#1222 14 Jul 2020 at 8.09pm | | |
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It’s not like the old days when we could contribute to your more traditional and instant deforestation with wooden trains and building blocks. Plastic pollution is soooo next generation catastrophe
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#1221 14 Jul 2020 at 7.55pm | | |
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Oh, the controversy 
There’s a couple of threads, possibly 3 you could add that to
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#1220 14 Jul 2020 at 7.25pm | | |
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Think of the impact on the environment, all that mass produced unnecessary crap
But I'm supporting China because their people are good people and need our help. They will need it now we are dumping Huawei.
It wasn't their fault we got the disease it was their government that spread it, it's part of their global take over.
When the Poundland goods break after 5 minutes we can buy it again and we can dump the plastic in the sea, everyone else does it 
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#1219 14 Jul 2020 at 6.28pm | | |
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I hope not I enjoy my visits to Poundland
Seriously, shame on you 
Think of the impact on the environment, all that mass produced unnecessary crap 
Nearly as bad as a plastic toy in a happy meal 
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#1218 14 Jul 2020 at 6.08pm | | |
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Poundland?
That's what the UK will be renamed after Scotland and NI bugger off
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#1217 14 Jul 2020 at 5.15pm | | |
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Bridges burned with China today.
I hope not I enjoy my visits to Poundland
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#1216 14 Jul 2020 at 1.10pm | | |
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Bridges burned with China today...?
Those future trade talks are going to be interesting. Just the UK representative in a room as nobody else wants to talk to us... Maybe a zoom call from the USA offering us a few quid for bits of the NHS?
Eurovision was just the start...
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#1215 14 Jul 2020 at 10.45am | | |
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got to look to the future and beyond......
The eventual rejoining the EU, but with none of the opt-outs the UK enjoys now?
Give it ten years, Brexit will be like the Iraq war. All Johnson and Farage's idea that no-one will admit supporting, let alone voting for.
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#1214 14 Jul 2020 at 10.39am | | |
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That’s only 2020 Jon, got to look to the future and beyond....... 
Oh the irony NoS........ 
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#1213 14 Jul 2020 at 10.16am | | |
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It’s a shame you can’t read it, who would have thought that not being a member of something would place restrictions on what you can do?
(You can register for limited access to one article a week or something)
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#1212 14 Jul 2020 at 9.57am | | |
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https://www.businessinsider.com/brexit-will-cost-uk-more-than-total-payments-to-eu-2020-1?IR=T
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#1211 14 Jul 2020 at 9.55am | | |
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More money in the UK pot Jon......
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#1210 14 Jul 2020 at 9.51am | | |
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But in practical terms of how it will make your life better Wayne?
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#1209 14 Jul 2020 at 9.42am | | |
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Looking forward to it very much Jon............Loved the sound of the points based system yesterday.......
Supply chains will be fine, Businesses have had plenty of time to get their exporting stuff ready, Hopefully vice versa ref Healthcare for EU Citizens or from any where else who needs to pay for treatment...
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#1208 14 Jul 2020 at 9.38am | | |
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Anyone still looking forward to it from a real, practical or business point of view?
JIT supply chains looking dodgy. Red tape for exporters set to rocket. No healthcare in the EU for Brits (and lots of insurance won't cover existing conditions, unlike the EHIC card) etc etc etc.
I'd imagine the good folk of northern France are quite looking forward to doing a roaring trade in confiscated boilies and inflatable boats for anyone who fancies escaping the EU for England...
No doubt lots of the financial hit will be blamed on Covid-19, but it'll be hard to blame a massive lorrypark full of trucks waiting for customs on a virus.
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#1207 14 Jul 2020 at 9.24am | | |
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You have to subscribe to read the article???
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#1205 27 Jun 2020 at 10.36pm | | |
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But you don't know how dirty their bottoms were...
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#1204 27 Jun 2020 at 10.35pm | | |
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We just had a go at demand-led shortages and no-one I know died so let’s give supply-led shortages a go.
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#1203 27 Jun 2020 at 10.17pm | | |
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What's the view of 'no deal' in light of the Covid situation?
Surely there are going to be enough economic problems without adding insult to injury and making stuff dearer with no deal? ... or has nothing changed?
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#1202 27 Jun 2020 at 10.15pm | | |
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Come on guys, Brexit was a revolt for not being listened too and changing things through a vote.....it’s a little part of the plan to break the system!......
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#1201 27 Jun 2020 at 10.07pm | | |
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Well, odd to see that just about every EU country took back control of their borders about 2 months before the UK did, even though they couldn't, because they were in the EU.
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#1200 27 Jun 2020 at 10.01pm | | |
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your link
Funny you have bumped this thread as I was going to earlier as the perfect storm is brewing and the system collapsing all around us......or is that for the conspiracy thread.......
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#1199 27 Jun 2020 at 9.57pm | | |
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Four years since the vote. How is the most divisive and and stupid thing this country has done to itself going?
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/25/uk/uk-supports-eu-four-years-after-brexit-intl-gbr/index.html
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#1198 10 Feb 2020 at 8.29am | | |
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Yep, Ralph, that's Mrs T. tripping the light fantastic (and I don't mean dancing!).
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#1197 10 Feb 2020 at 0.32am | | |
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What the one on the right?
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#1196 9 Feb 2020 at 10.02pm | | |
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**** me Mr T , that's some Barnett , is that Mrs T aswell
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#1195 9 Feb 2020 at 5.38pm | | |
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Crackers lol 
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#1194 9 Feb 2020 at 4.24pm | | |
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Jealous, Paul...? 
There's an awful lot of beautiful colours in a candle, you know!
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#1193 9 Feb 2020 at 2.29pm | | |
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Then I put my fave trippin' music on, and an oomph loompa wig, sit back and laugh
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#1192 9 Feb 2020 at 1.35pm | | |
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#1191 7 Feb 2020 at 4.20pm | | |
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#1190 7 Feb 2020 at 6.54am | | |
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#1189 6 Feb 2020 at 4.54pm | | |
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That’s the ironic bit, he is serious
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#1188 6 Feb 2020 at 12.32pm | | |
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Ken that is brilliant
Would make a great profile pic for someone. ..
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#1187 6 Feb 2020 at 12.21pm | | |
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Nothing wrong with hippies!
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#1186 6 Feb 2020 at 11.25am | | |
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Bloody hippy
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#1185 6 Feb 2020 at 9.06am | | |
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And proud to be so
Peace and love man....
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#1184 6 Feb 2020 at 9.06am | | |
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Not very nice losing ones job 😔
But a lot on here knee jerk instead of putting their 2 brain cells to work .
There used to be a lot of very intelligent people on here one time .
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#1183 6 Feb 2020 at 9.03am | | |
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another stupid snow flake comment. no surprise there.
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#1182 6 Feb 2020 at 6.50am | | |
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Mals the only snowflake 
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#1181 5 Feb 2020 at 11.16pm | | |
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#1180 5 Feb 2020 at 10.22pm | | |
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Not one of the Oliver Cromwell/Brexit/swivel eyed loons posting on here can be bothered about a British lad losing his work because of how they voted.
Patriots my hairy Arris
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#1179 5 Feb 2020 at 9.49pm | | |
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Watch out Scoz that's not very particularly correct, you'll have the Mal and the other snowflakes on you
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#1178 5 Feb 2020 at 9.16pm | | |
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I would be more interested in the chance of seeing a ***** or a pair of tits now and again, woman’s that is, not blokes 
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#1177 5 Feb 2020 at 8.22pm | | |
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"i’m a fan of people being able to state their opinions’ without the snow flakes jumping on them."
Your expletive ridden posts on people who disagree with you would suggest that statement is cobbler's Mook. No surprise there
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#1176 5 Feb 2020 at 8.09pm | | |
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Window cleaning....
Do you reckon retired window cleaners have a bucket list...?
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#1175 5 Feb 2020 at 8.00pm | | |
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#1174 5 Feb 2020 at 7.41pm | | |
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Unfortunately I've not watched as many films as you Fred. Plenty of books mind, just not many films
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#1173 5 Feb 2020 at 7.29pm | | |
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Window cleaning deffo, the fishing’s ****ed, another Brexit victim lol
As for Farage I hope he chokes on his next pint of bitter 🍺 # ****er
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#1172 5 Feb 2020 at 7.28pm | | |
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Your right Mal, it is a result of Brexit, no doubt, one of the directors tipped me off, they have just been waiting to lay their cards down
I will find something mate, nothing happening at the moment so I have the luxury to shop about
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#1171 5 Feb 2020 at 7.04pm | | |
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You obviously know Jack about history 🤔
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#1170 5 Feb 2020 at 6.18pm | | |
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Sorry to hear that scozza.
Unfortunately it's not corporate bull. .. it's the economic consequence that loads of business leaders said would be the case. Not unfounded scaremongering when the people who warned it would happen are the ones who will now make it happen to try and keep their business afloat. ..
Hopefully you'll find something. I hear boris is looking for 20000 coppers to replace the 20000 coppers that we lost over the last few years.  maybe your missus could put a word in for you.
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#1169 5 Feb 2020 at 5.49pm | | |
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what a strange thing to say’ i don’t own patriotism or brexit. i am patriotic and have been most of life’ apart from a few times after disappointment. One disappointment recently was’ the old corrupt parliament’ that like flakey remainers held up brexit proceedings.
I voted brexit’ i don’t own it unfortunately.
as i posted earlier’ i mix with all types, and many say what they think. i’m a fan of people being able to state their opinions’ without the snow flakes jumping on them.
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#1168 5 Feb 2020 at 5.33pm | | |
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The burning of witches or the persecution of other faiths?
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#1167 5 Feb 2020 at 5.25pm | | |
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Just watched Cromwell, brings it all into focus 👏
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#1166 5 Feb 2020 at 4.42pm | | |
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No need to worry, unlucky mate. Fromage can get you a start on a British trawler for sure. Boris could get you a start in a pork pie or kipper factory. Lizz Truss can surely get you a start in the Somerset cheese industry, maybe Spud picking in Norfolk. If you fancy Cornwall, plenty of money to be earned cleaning caravan's
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#1165 5 Feb 2020 at 4.35pm | | |
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It’s called the reality 
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#1164 5 Feb 2020 at 4.34pm | | |
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Project fear, it's not reality....
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#1163 5 Feb 2020 at 4.31pm | | |
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Good old Brexit. The business I currently work for has announced its reviewing its European operations today and the cash conversion cost with England pulling out and the expected impact on the exchange rate it can not sustain its position. I love the corporate bull****. In summary that means we’re out of here soon, followed by a load of others too no doubt
****s. Not to worry we will be alright in around 10 or 15 years time when it’s all settled down
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#1162 5 Feb 2020 at 4.27pm | | |
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You don't "own" patriotism because of the way you voted in a binary referendum Mook. You just own the consequences. Unless you're peddling something more sinister?
"I meet people from all walks of life’ and the majority of them’ once theyfeel confident make many racist statements and comments. i mean people of poor upbringing a bit like me’ right up to the mega rich’ they all sing the same song."
In which circles you mix is upto you
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#1161 5 Feb 2020 at 8.56am | | |
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Fair play, Fred...but if you think this is bad just be thankful you don't support West Ham United F.C. too! 
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#1160 4 Feb 2020 at 12.27pm | | |
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Hi Ken
Not a troll at all , I just see things a lot different than others.
Like you I’ve watched , read , everything about conflicts, even more so WW1 and 2.
Everything is a total mess regarding the EU .
Our country has been invaded by stealth , the divisions are a gaping hole .
I just see history repeating itself over and over again .
I will go more in depth when I have a bit more time to clarify my assumptions .
I do talk to others who have a similar assumption as mine with even more drastic views than mine .
Nothing is going to get better only worse .
We have come no further as a species than caveman times and that’s worrying .
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#1159 3 Feb 2020 at 10.21pm | | |
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#1158 3 Feb 2020 at 9.26pm | | |
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what i regularly display on here is my patriotism and belief in my country to hold their own’ not propped up by europe or anybody else. you trying to portray me in a way that is both racist and bigotry’ is because i have opposing views to you’ like many others that have posted here.
the reamainers lost’ stop being a bad loser and try and give it a chance’ just like me. brexit could make or break my businesses. the businesses are varied so it’s difficult to predict how they’ll fair. we had numerous debates about it’ some who knew i was a leaver strongly disagreed’ the majority though’ after a lot of thought it a good option.
none of us have a crystal ball’ i do have faith and passion though. i’m too old to see if things flourish for the country’ unless it happens really quickly. if i’m around to see it possibly fail’ i’ll take that on the chin too. i don’t know your age but i’m sure if you were around and aware of the country when we were independent’ you would have a lot more faith and belief in brexit.
you need to get used to racism and other culture differences though, it will never go away, in fact from what i’ve seen it’s getting worse. you don't have to agree with it or like’ just be aware it’s not going away.
If this country was full of al’l and only black people’ with a single culture and religion’ or only asian people with one religion and culture’ or only white people with a single religion and culture’ you will never here of racism in that country. maybe homophobia’ or semitism’ and sexist and ageist’ no racism though.
however past governments through all kinds of actions’ decided we would be multi racial and multi cultural.
unfortunately it hasn’t worked’ they know and we all know it but’ many are trying to stamp it out which i admire but’ can’t help thinking it’s a pointless exercise.
i meet people from all walks of life’ and the majority of them’ once theyfeel confident make many racist statements and comments. i mean people of poor upbringing a bit like me’ right up to the mega rich’ they all sing the same song.
i have been subject to racism too. one example was a few years ago we needed some big pots and steamers for a function. i was told about an indian wholesaler that would stock them. me and two colleagues
Visited the place’ the whole town and cash and carry were indians only. we were the only whites’ we walked in and were stared at like we were outlaws. we found the pots and pans, and asked somebody behind the counter the price. None of them were speaking english’ so we asked them to speak english. it got really nasty after that’ what are you people doing here’ theres nothing for your sort here’ in english, they told us we were the wrong colour. then they mumbled in their language. a woman came from the back and asked what we wanted’ i was tempted to just walk out but’ we needed the pots. she did us a deal and half apologised saying the men thought we were robbers.
Once we got out of there’ obviously relieved, a colleague said’ just imagine what would happen if a gang of white blokes treated three indians like that.
that’s one of a few examples’ if you want to start shouting about racism’ maybe look at it from all races. you don’t hear much of whites being racially abused’ as they laugh it off and don't make it a big deal. my staff have warned some foreign employees about spitting and blowing snot on the floor. often they threatened with the race card.
so do me a favour’ preach elsewhere.
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#1157 3 Feb 2020 at 8.25pm | | |
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i encourage my students to ask questions. then i encourage them to ask more and seek out as many viewpoints as possible. it's simple. that way they can widen their viewpoint rather than have them narrowed by propaganda. i challenge bigotry / racism / homophobia etc. as that's an important part of my job, but i never replace their viewpoint with mine.
as for you not agreeing with my views, then i'm relieved. given what you regularly display on here I'd be the one that was worried if i felt that we were aligned in our opinion....
tinhead - fair point. but i could still be on to something....
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#1156 3 Feb 2020 at 7.54pm | | |
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i find it quite worrying that you are a school teacher’ as you have plenty of time to influence innocent youngsters with your views’ most of which i’m sure i wouldn’t agree with. i bet you take on the roll as part teacher part politician’ giving your opinions as fact and correct.
as for my business’ i have very little to do with the running of them’ or hiring and firing. i do know the amount of money these racial conflicts cost the businesses though.
some take sick leave because of stress waiting for court dates, full pay and benefits obviously’ from the company kitty. then managers and supervisors are often called as witnesses. it’s problems like this that are not good for any business.
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#1155 3 Feb 2020 at 7.25pm | | |
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Your cherry picking Mal
People are interviewed’ and if suitable are offered jobs, no favours or prefs.
My cherry pick doesn't sound racist to me.
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#1154 3 Feb 2020 at 7.08pm | | |
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reading your post - and between the lines - something struck me in your comment
' i want to point out that i employ a lot of people at various companies. there is a big mix of race, culture and religion’ and it has generally not worked and caused many problems.'
Given your apparent attitude toward a mixed society, perhaps you should look at the common denominator in your statement. It's little surprise that it hasn't worked if you are the employer there...
Can I refer you to my earlier post - number 1141?
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#1153 3 Feb 2020 at 6.46pm | | |
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The last few years has shown me how many flakey peopl there are in the uk. since brexit a few days ago’ i have heard many saying racism will increase, and cultural conflicts will also get worse. i don’t know how true that is, none of us do’ but many will see the country making its own rules’ and controlling borders as racist’ and relevant to culture.
I don’t think racism will ever cease’ no matter what country we’re in’ and despite the government claiming we are multi cultural, which we might well be’ it clearly doesn’t work. We are not all meant to inter mingle and embrace each others culture and religion, and the majority of the time’ the majority of us does not and never will.
If we all came back on earth in 500 years time, if man hasn’t killed it by then’ there would be racism and culture conflict, as long as there are different cultures and races in a country, it will exist’ and the smalker the country’ the worse it becomes.
before i get labelled a racist or bigot again, i want to point out that i employ a lot of people at various companies. there is a big mix of race, culture and religion’ and it has generally not worked and caused many problems.
Some of the racists are white born and bred british, some are asian immigrants, some are black immigrants and many white eastern europeans. there doesn’t seem a main race that they target, it just random, and its got worse every year.
a solution might be for me to only employ one race and religion but’ then i’m the racist. People are interviewed’ and if suitable are offered jobs, no favours or prefs.
the main reason i voted out of the EU because of the numbers pouring in, if that doesn’t stop’ then we will never make any steps forward.
the comments from remainers saying their future and kids future’ is ruined by something they did not vote for.
thats ********. i remember before we joined, the country was better then’ it had substance and respect. many of us had it forced on us, and we endured 47 years of **** and being treated as such’ lost all of our industry and everything else, the had to let a lot people in, coming from terrible countries’ wanting some of our nice little island, that soldiers fought and died for, and what our ancestors worked so hard for’ to make it a great country.
now look at it’ an overcrowded angry racist ****hole.
the flakey negative remainers need to have a bit of faith and stop bleating like scared little lambs’ and have a bit of spirit like our ancestors did.
another thing i notice now, is the people bleating have interests in europe, some have property there, and some that voted don’t even like in the uk. they have just been getting fat too long on their europe ties, whilst the uk is getting worse by the day. shame on those people’ selfish *******s.
we’re out now, so all the little lambs need to get used to it’ or piss off to europe and create space for us that live here and believe in our country.
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#1152 3 Feb 2020 at 4.59pm | | |
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Fred: I have met you and really enjoyed your company. You were a great laugh for the week we fished together and Tat and I had a superb time. Funnily enough you showed no signs then of your hidden internet trolling abilities You kept them well hidden!
Just thank your lucky stars you are not a political reporter trying to get some semblance of truth rather than lies out of this government.
The Dom and Lee show has begun...Did you ever see such a nasty looking pair of enforcers (sorry : Advisors!) Free speech...Yer arse!
I am not so worried about Bexit (it's over...get used to it) as I am about the increasing Nazification of this great country of ours. Never have I know such hatred and division. I did European history 1850-1950 for my O Level and from what I recall (it was a long time ago) the attitudes and divisiveness in the UK today shows a remarkable similarity to Germany in 1933 onwards. It leaves a very nasty taste in the mouth. I'll hopefully be dead before the full impact of Brexit and 10 years of this buffoon will become clear. Thank God for that.
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#1151 3 Feb 2020 at 10.54am | | |
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Never mind that
I've been told I can't wear my french maid outfit at the weekend anymore! Damn brexit!
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#1150 3 Feb 2020 at 8.49am | | |
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Lucky it wasn't a German pacemaker.
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#1149 3 Feb 2020 at 0.01am | | |
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23.00 on the 31st
my blooming continental quilt stop working and I woke up cold ???
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#1148 2 Feb 2020 at 10.54pm | | |
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Repent you sinners
Judgement day is imminent
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#1147 2 Feb 2020 at 9.55pm | | |
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What are you on about Fred
Everybody is entitled to their opinion mate and even if you think other people’s are ********, it’s only fair to respect that right... unless they are threatening to bomb people or having a tantrum
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#1146 2 Feb 2020 at 8.42pm | | |
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I voted leave but unfortunately there are idiots on both sides of the debate,
Bomb Brussels, European cowards......... stop talking ********.
Its as bad on the other side "I'm not using the 50p's, we love EU floodlight screenings and candle lit vigils"
We are where we are lets get on with it and stop rubbishing Great Britain
EDITED - I've calmed down now and edited my post as not relevant to topic as such! But the rest still stands
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#1145 2 Feb 2020 at 8.30pm | | |
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It’s obvious even this forum is filled with collaborators , still the good news is even they were dealt with after the dust settled .
Shame history is not taught anymore as it’s perfectly clear if brains were dynamite half you lot wouldn’t have enough to blow your heads off .
I’m going back into hibernation as clearly far too many misinformed sensitive souls here .👋
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#1144 2 Feb 2020 at 7.18pm | | |
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In reply to Post #1136
There but for the grace of God.
If it wasn't for the English Channel and a massive miscalculation on Hitler's part we would have been in the same boat.
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#1143 2 Feb 2020 at 7.11pm | | |
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Funnily enough most ‘brits’ are descended from Europeans who came and conquered the place...
And ALL racists are descendants of Africans
Not a response to you btw, just an observation of the current discussion about Europeans being cowards.
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#1142 2 Feb 2020 at 7.10pm | | |
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I'm genuinely angry that people like you have decided mine and my children's future.
Apparently Churchill once said that; "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."
In your case he certainly had a point.
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#1141 2 Feb 2020 at 6.55pm | | |
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And people wonder why Brexiteers get labelled stupid.
Thank god you don't have any power whatsoever in this
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#1140 2 Feb 2020 at 6.48pm | | |
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I think the British could learn something from the French to be honest. Once it was obvious Brexit was a massive stitch up which would only benefit Rees-Mogg, Farage and the like, the French would have well and truly kicked off. None of this marching through London with witty and grammatically correct placards nonsense.
Can’t help thinking that during WW2 the vast majority of today’s thick, fat, knuckle-dragging morons who claim to be patriots would’ve been in Portsmouth jeering and screaming at British troops heading to Europe to fight to help foreigners. Bleedin’ do-gooders, eh?
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#1139 2 Feb 2020 at 6.35pm | | |
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If all else fails and they try to show out I would like to see us bomb the *******s
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#1138 2 Feb 2020 at 4.42pm | | |
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I rest my case. Jesus wept. Indeed.
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#1137 2 Feb 2020 at 3.09pm | | |
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Polite
Sanctimonious I find, plenty of words but no point as in most of your posts.
Brexit will have negatives for this country. You own them, let's see your answers. 
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#1136 2 Feb 2020 at 2.59pm | | |
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Typical remain attitude , more like French than British .
Scared and cowards just like WW2 and only a handful of resistance with guts who did not give up .
Jesus wept 😞
Why don’t you sell up and go forth to euro land and continue with your love fest of the dictatorship, when actually it’s Germany ruling by stealth .
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#1135 2 Feb 2020 at 2.40pm | | |
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Er..... I don't think so. Why should nearly half the population of the country own something they don't want or didn't vote for?
See, this is the difference. If I'm wrong, I'll be pleased to be wrong. If I'm right this will be a cluster**** of the highest order, I won't celebrate that.
Leavers philosophy seems to be happy to **** things up for the other half of the country. So when the people with a pigmentation problem don't go, when the schools are still full, when you can't see your gp or get a hospital appointment any quicker, when wages don't rise, when the trade deals which make the country better off, don't materialise, you and the others who voted for that own it. All of it.
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#1134 2 Feb 2020 at 10.40am | | |
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Again this morning the sky was still there. No queues on M20 and i brought some milk and bread from Co-Op and the shelves seemed pretty well stocked
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#1133 2 Feb 2020 at 10.07am | | |
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If the EU start pissing about then send over a Lancaster bomber with a tallboy to Brussels then they will know where we are coming from .
Very nostalgic 😍
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#1132 2 Feb 2020 at 2.27am | | |
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No point getting a boat mate.
Europe won't let us in and trump land is too far....
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#1131 1 Feb 2020 at 2.07pm | | |
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Stimps the thing is we now all have to own it......if it goes wrong (it won’t) you can say told you so, own it all you want but you will ultimately be in the same boat as all of us......
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#1130 1 Feb 2020 at 1.03pm | | |
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" i would just suggest’ to try and come to terms with it and give it a chance, we all have to whether we voted for it or not."
******** to that...….you voted for it, you own it!
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#1129 1 Feb 2020 at 1.00pm | | |
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Very eloquent argument you made last night Wayne.
https://www.facebook.com/veryBrexitproblems/videos/179484423415669/
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#1128 1 Feb 2020 at 11.25am | | |
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And I went to the pharmacy this morning and got me meds , no probs
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#1127 1 Feb 2020 at 11.22am | | |
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Well said malster
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#1126 1 Feb 2020 at 11.02am | | |
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Let's be clear.
There's no practical change after last night. It was a political milestone but Brexit is by no means 'done'
The process of it starts now and it won't be simple. It also won't be regular folk like us that do it, whether we come together or remain divided. It's in the hands of the Conservative party now. Not parliament but the conservative party as they have that huge majority.
All we can do is get on with our day to day and respond to the consequences
Good luck all
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#1125 1 Feb 2020 at 10.53am | | |
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Grammar police, feel free to point out my mistakes’ i genuinely need pointers.
so brexit has definitely happened, or at least we’ve taken the first main step of it’ and i’m very happy for lots of reasons. those that are not happy’ i would just suggest’ to try and come to terms with it and give it a chance, we all have to whether we voted for it or not.
The uk started going down the toilet around 35 years ago’ so although very late in the day’ this is a step to try and get it turned into something respectable again.
My previous relatives’ like a lot of people gave their lives for our freedom’ i finally am starting to feel like i might be free again’ and belong to a country instead of a dustbin.
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#1124 1 Feb 2020 at 10.27am | | |
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Would appear that way......
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#1123 1 Feb 2020 at 9.33am | | |
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When there’s straw... you clutch what you can
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#1122 1 Feb 2020 at 9.14am | | |
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Grammar police in the house ......
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#1121 1 Feb 2020 at 9.14am | | |
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It’s ‘belittle’
All one word
As you were
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#1120 1 Feb 2020 at 9.06am | | |
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I wonder which country is the next to get out of the EU?
If anyone has watched “Travels in Euroland with Edd balls” it’s not looking very promising for the EU project, everybody and their dog has turned against it, even Edd who was a staunch supporter of the EU when he was a Labour MP admits it looks like it’s doomed.
It’s worth watching, bit of an eye opener- there’s literally “No Go Zones” in most German cities now, 90% rise’s in crime.
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#1119 1 Feb 2020 at 8.45am | | |
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Woke up this morning and guess what the sky is still there
Drove down the M20 today and couldn't see a single queue of lorries and traffic is still moving would you believe it
Now the grammar police are out, oh my god your argument for remain has impressed me so much i want to change my vote. Its just like the Labour party insult, be little and ostracise those with a different opinion will always turn them towards your point of view.
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#1118 1 Feb 2020 at 1.16am | | |
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Happy brexit to you
Happy brexit to you
Happy brexit dear forum
Happy brexit to you
🍻🍻🍾🍾🍾🍻🍻
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#1117 31 Jan 2020 at 11.50pm | | |
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No no no no no Mr Mal
Our/are ... 5 year olds
Could have/could of ... 25 year olds
If anything positive can be taken from the last few years, it's that we shouldn't beat around the bush. Thank goodness for the demise of political correctness. Let's call a spade a spade, and a thick **** a ****, eh?
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#1116 31 Jan 2020 at 11.48pm | | |
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Hi Jon,
There you go again with the insults.
You really can't help yourself can you?
Is it because you think it's witty and amusing?
Constantly trying to ridicule someone who is polite to you seems to me to be smug narcissism.
I don't intend to waste any more of my time on this thread.
BB.
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#1115 31 Jan 2020 at 11.39pm | | |
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Ah.... the 'are' / 'our' mistake. Right up there with 'could of' / 'could have' ....
I've wasted so much red ink on those little mishaps. It's way more common than you might think. Like male pattern baldness and sense of humour failure...
So Brexit has got done. I don't feel any wealthier / more secure in my job / safer in my home / confident that there'll be a nurse available if I get ill.... Maybe project total and utter b*llocks overstated things....
Have seen some Brexit supporters on TV over the days news. More of the usual xenophobic pish and even some flag burning which was nice. Not necessarily a positive advert for our future but hey ho.
I thought there was a poignant moment during farage's final MEP rant when they simply turned his mic off so they didn't have to listen to him (if only that worked in everyday life). It summed up very simply and succinctly what we are now facing - those other countries don't have to listen to us if they don't like what we are saying now. Could make for an interesting few months of negotiation...
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#1114 31 Jan 2020 at 11.36pm | | |
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Butterbean ... you really are very slow with your replies
Either nanny is on double time after 10 pm and as such mustn't be disturbed, or Master Jacob has told you to be quiet...
Goodnight.
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#1113 31 Jan 2020 at 11.27pm | | |
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Blimey, I waited for a reply, gave up and logged out.
Then I came back, by chance, and you'd replied ... Grrreat .... the point is, the original question was ... what are the benefits of leaving the EU?
You've won ... surely you're knocking one out over Anne Widdecombe's speech by now?
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#1112 31 Jan 2020 at 11.21pm | | |
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Hi Jon,
What's the point in my posting to you?
All you do is post ridicule and insults..
How do you expect me to take you seriously?
If your intention is to just annoy me, then it falls on deaf ears, because abuse is meaningless nonsense and anyone with insight would see it says more about you than it does of me.
BB.
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#1111 31 Jan 2020 at 11.17pm | | |
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"Mate ... I've spent 3 years telling fellow libtards not to mock the thick or the racist ... then you demonstrate that you don't know the difference between 'our' and 'are'.
I'm really sorry, but anything you say after that is worthless...."
Beautiful...….Just beautiful.
Weev got are ****ry bak……...
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#1110 31 Jan 2020 at 11.16pm | | |
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I'm sorry....
Not understanding the difference between 'are' and 'our' is perfectly normal and certainly not a sign that anyone is thick.
Butterbean just happened to be too busy to reply to me in the last half hour (maybe nanny was ready with his special tea Towel to mop up the Eton Mess, come the hour).
Good luck!
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#1109 31 Jan 2020 at 11.04pm | | |
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I'm here Butterbean ... you can talk to me directly.
Nowt to do with the left mind, I blame Corbyn as much as anyone for the rise of idiots talking cobblers at both ends of the spectrum.
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#1108 31 Jan 2020 at 10.56pm | | |
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Hi Wayne,
As you can see, Jon's post below has just confirmed my earlier post in that, they don't answer direct questions and just post insults.
You would think that he would realise that replying with sarcasm and insults is meaningless and destroys any credibility he might have and that of his opinions.
It seems to me, the further left these people go, so does their intellect diminish in direct proportion.
If you follow US politics, you see this trend with the more leftist democrats.
BB.
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#1107 31 Jan 2020 at 10.55pm | | |
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Mate ... I've spent 3 years telling fellow libtards not to mock the thick or the racist ... then you demonstrate that you don't know the difference between 'our' and 'are'.
I'm really sorry, but anything you say after that is worthless....
Bong ... bong ... WHERE'S BIG BEN????????
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#1106 31 Jan 2020 at 10.47pm | | |
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.......standard reply
EU has been propped up by are money for years and they hate the fact we will leave and get new deals with the US / China all on are own......it’s like being a little dealer for a cartel and you decide to leave and become a cartel Yourself......embrace the change rather than moaning on deaf ears........15 minutes......tick tock tick tock.....
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#1105 31 Jan 2020 at 10.37pm | | |
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In reply to Post #1103
Sorry mate, thought anyone of average intelligence would have understood.
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#1104 31 Jan 2020 at 10.37pm | | |
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(Reuters) - PSA Group's (PEUP.PA) will build a battery cell factory in Kaiserslautern, Opel Chief Executive Michael Lohscheller said on Thursday, in a step which creates 2,000 jobs at a site which is heavily dependent on making parts for combustion-engined cars.
"We will build the largest plant for battery cells in Germany in Kaiserslautern. Together with our Partner Saft we are making an investment in the billion euro range that will lead to the creation of 2,000 jobs. By doing so, we are building a true giga factory," Lohscheller said in a statement on Thursday.
Cutting out the inefficient and investing billions to create new better jobs for the future economy I'd say.
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#1103 31 Jan 2020 at 10.31pm | | |
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In reply to Post #1101
Jon, you Going to answer / give your opinion on my questions or dodge them.......
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#1102 31 Jan 2020 at 10.30pm | | |
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In reply to Post #1098
The caps definitely in your size 
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#1101 31 Jan 2020 at 9.36pm | | |
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Why anyone would agree to their country being, in part, controlled by a foreign power that doesn't have their best interests at heart is beyond my comprehension.
Good luck with Donald!
How are the conspiracy theories going ? The Jews paying for Muslims to over run the native white man wasn't it ... something like that? I expect it's coronavirus is a EU plot by now, eh? Nice to see your carer has let you use the internet machine again!
Edit: Butterbean - you've never 'tried to debate' any remainers. All you've ever done on this thread is post a load of cobblers then disappear for months on end (until your mum tells you the thread had slipped off the first page, I imagine).
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#1100 31 Jan 2020 at 9.20pm | | |
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In reply to Post #1098
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#1099 31 Jan 2020 at 9.04pm | | |
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Hi Wayne,
Way back on this thread, I tried to debate a couple of remainers, because I was genuinely baffled as to what advantages they saw in remaining as apposed to leaving, but they ignored my questions and treated me to their repertoire of sarcasm and insults.
I would have thought that, if they had any overwhelming reasons to remain they would have voiced them, so you have to conclude that they don't have any.
Why anyone would agree to their country being, in part, controlled by a foreign power that doesn't have their best interests at heart is beyond my comprehension.
BB.
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#1098 31 Jan 2020 at 8.17pm | | |
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Ocelot why is it every remainer has to resort to name calling you soppy ****.......
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#1097 31 Jan 2020 at 7.26pm | | |
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In reply to Post #1096
Creating or cutting?
LINK
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#1096 31 Jan 2020 at 2.29pm | | |
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In reply to Post #1092
I see Opel just announced a €2 billion investment in it's Kaiserslautern plant Germany for a Giga battery factory. Thousands of new cutting edge jobs. It's sister Vauxhall plant in the UK missed out and is not assigned new investment, and has halved it's workforce since the Brexit vote.
Pull together my Arris, you voted for it, you own it get delivering numpties.
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#1095 31 Jan 2020 at 2.08pm | | |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deiWnZK-duM
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#1094 31 Jan 2020 at 10.55am | | |
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Stock up today chaps, remember there will be no medicines and food in the shops tomorrow!
At least its a step forward trade talks can begin Monday in earnest, Sorry we cant because the EU don't want to start until March.
The worse thing i heard on LBC this morning was an older woman worried that the NHS will now be brought by the USA and no medicines will be available........ Project Fear has a lot to answer for!
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#1093 30 Jan 2020 at 4.13pm | | |
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In reply to Post #1092
I was wondering that too....
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#1092 30 Jan 2020 at 3.55pm | | |
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How is project fear becoming a reality??
What responsibilities do we have to accept??
I will be going to work, Doing my job and paying my taxes too, your point is what exactly??
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#1091 30 Jan 2020 at 3.48pm | | |
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Cobblers.
Remain voters are going to work, doing their jobs and paying their taxes. Don't pretend that if they all started waving little flags and playing Land Of Hope and Glory on kazoos tomorrow night anything would change.
Brexit and its negative consequences are entirely the responsibility of the politicians who sold it, and the folk who voted for it. Similarly, if it's a roaring success, it'll be thanks to them.
All this 'now we need to pull together' crap is just leave trying to silence folk pointing out how 'project fear' is becoming reality.
It's happening, you wanted it, the least you can do is grow a pair and accept responsibility for the results.
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#1090 30 Jan 2020 at 10.24am | | |
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Hopefully after tomorrow remain voters will pull themselves out of the doom and gloom and unite to take the country forward
We can but hope...
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#1089 30 Jan 2020 at 8.09am | | |
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You won. Don't be a sore winner. Gloating is for the playground...
To be fair Ken this has been a playground battle for the last 3yrs with remain or leave voters. Hopefully after tomorrow remain voters will pull themselves out of the doom and gloom and unite to take the country forward........
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#1088 30 Jan 2020 at 6.47am | | |
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thats fords f****d then, apart from the diseal engine what is shipped out from Dagenham in bits to be put together abroad then shipped back again. they don't build any cars in the uk..
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#1087 29 Jan 2020 at 8.24pm | | |
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Sounds grrrreat!
Don't forget the real tangible benefits too .... a new 50p which says how much you love foreigners, a 12 quid tea towel, or a lovely blue passport, made by a French firm.
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#1086 29 Jan 2020 at 5.26pm | | |
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Cheers Kenneth
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#1085 29 Jan 2020 at 4.41pm | | |
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Farcical. Just shows how low some people's standards are.
A well made point ken. Definitely worth reading twice...
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#1084 29 Jan 2020 at 4.20pm | | |
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You won. Don't be a sore winner. Gloating is for the playground...
Mrs Brown's Boys won the public vote for Best Comedy....as did Brexit.
Nuff said.
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#1083 29 Jan 2020 at 8.25am | | |
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2 days left.......then we can start negotiations with the EU about ****ing off out of our fishing waters, 2 days left to tell France it can keep its cheese and wine, 2 days left to tell Germany to keep all there VW, BMW And mercs, 2 days left for the ECJ and EUCHR to keep there nose out of our business...........Friday really is a great day.........
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#1082 24 Jan 2020 at 2.22pm | | |
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#1081 23 Jan 2020 at 6.38pm | | |
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Yes mate , thanks for that , I've only just seen it
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#1080 23 Jan 2020 at 10.32am | | |
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Jim: You'll be fine, mate. Nothing will happen on or before 2nd Feb. As for the EHIC, nothing changes until the end of 2020. It will be valid until then and you will be able to claim all but 20% of your medical expenses. You will be able to claim that 20% from your travel insurance provider...One thing...make sure your card has not expired. They are only issued for a defined period. Renewal is easy-peasy and quick.
BTW, just because you have an EHIC does NOT mean that you don't need travel/medical insurance when travellin to the EU...unless you can afford to drop 20% of, say, a €20,000 charge.
Just to give an example...Tats broken bone in October 2019 would have cost us over three grand. However, because we have Travel/Medical insurance as well as an EHIC it cost us zilch.
It is thought (hoped) that some kind of reciprocal agreement will be reached with the EU during the negotiations.
Ralph: Did you get my PM?)
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#1079 20 Jan 2020 at 8.36pm | | |
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Seen it.
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#1078 20 Jan 2020 at 7.50am | | |
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It's on YouTube
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#1077 19 Jan 2020 at 6.10pm | | |
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Congratulations Tommy, sadly the UK press have ignored it and fb are banning anyone that posts it.
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#1076 28 Dec 2019 at 4.25pm | | |
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lol 👍🏻
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#1075 28 Dec 2019 at 11.04am | | |
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Don’t worry mate, the long haired **** is a teacher, surprise!. Primary school level, brilliant with crayons and that sort of stuff, bit like Ralph
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#1074 28 Dec 2019 at 0.11am | | |
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sorry i meant e.u.
please forgive my grammar and spelling’ i am still learning to read and write. my wife helps me if she is around’ and i sometimes use the spelling checker’ but i still make mistakes.
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#1073 27 Dec 2019 at 11.51pm | | |
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#1072 27 Dec 2019 at 11.31pm | | |
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That's Kevin bacon out of work then....
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#1071 27 Dec 2019 at 11.28pm | | |
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I read yesterday that the europe boss wrote us a letter’ saying we can re join europe whenever we want. we haven’t even left yet and their bums are twitching.
I think the ee will disband in a few years’ I certainly hope so.
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#1070 27 Dec 2019 at 10.13pm | | |
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Imagine if he was , he'd sort this country out
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#1069 27 Dec 2019 at 10.10pm | | |
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Just do what the foreign ****s do over here Jim , don't worry about it , you'll be fine
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#1068 27 Dec 2019 at 7.10pm | | |
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Get yourself signed up to the Money Saving Expert forum I'm sure they'll be some smart arse on there who'll be able to tell how to get a result
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#1067 27 Dec 2019 at 5.30pm | | |
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Yes I will do so.... mind that ain’t always what its cracked up to be... my lads went to Munich again this year for the Audi cup, flight out was Sunday 7:30 am-from Gatwick, this was cancelled and rescheduled for the following Night 6:45 from Stansted.... return on Friday was also cancelled and rescheduled for Sunday evening back to Luton.... so they had wasted petrol, parking, lost 2 days holiday and a night in their hotel.... two days extra expense till flight, Travel from Luton to Stansted to collect car and another day off work.... insurance says it was down to easyJet and easyJet didn’t want to know 😡
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#1066 27 Dec 2019 at 4.20pm | | |
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My understanding is that because there's an agreement deal then all is the same during the transition period til the end of 2020
If there's a change and the EU reject the agreement meaning it's a no deal Brexit then nothing is invalid immediately as there's a legislation period until they agree new terms.
Bit vague I know. I'd be getting extra travel insurance on top of my ehic if it was me.
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#1065 27 Dec 2019 at 3.58pm | | |
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I believe there’s a transition period but not sure regarding health card, I’ve googled it and getting conflicting results
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#1064 27 Dec 2019 at 3.33pm | | |
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You'll be fine jimmer. Can't see the Italians wanting to keep a spuds fan...
I'm sure they'll have stuff in place like they did for the last deadline
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#1063 27 Dec 2019 at 3.01pm | | |
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Anyone know if I will be affected if Brexit happens on Jan 31st.
I’m flying to Naples on the 30th and return 2nd Feb ???
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#1062 27 Dec 2019 at 1.38pm | | |
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In reply to Post #1061
He's a tool alright...
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#1061 27 Dec 2019 at 1.15pm | | |
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In reply to Post #1060
Tommy Robinson and his crusade against grooming gangs , great cause , one i stood for , i would have a little more respect for him if he held the Tory government and Theresa May to account instead of trying to join them for her loosing over 100 documents relating to high level pedophilia ! and the now forgotten 3 inquiries into the same thing , it's a fu##in joke ! Tommy has been a useful tool and well used !
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#1060 27 Dec 2019 at 11.44am | | |
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He’s not a politician
He’s intelligent enough to let his puppets and sheep do the dirty work and not incriminate himself as a fascist thug
I think even Corbyn would gain more votes! Because his minions are the most vocal doesn’t make them more numerous
To be fair he has a black mate and had 4 Muslims at his wedding
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#1059 27 Dec 2019 at 11.35am | | |
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One of the few that tells the truth , not a politician in this country that has as many followers as him
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#1058 27 Dec 2019 at 11.18am | | |
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Perhaps that national treasure Tommy Robinson could rally his troops next year and create an anti Islam pork production propaganda program?
Give something back to life’s winners who frequent such fine establishments as Wetherspoons and give a big **** you to the 0.005% of the population he’s dedicating his life to (unsuccessfully) sorting out
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#1057 26 Dec 2019 at 11.49pm | | |
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Now that's hard times. .. rolling your own pigs in blankets!
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#1056 26 Dec 2019 at 11.40pm | | |
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I agree.
Order sausages and bacon separately until we can train our own to do it, don't bother with MP's though they have never done a proper job in their lives!
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#1055 26 Dec 2019 at 8.58pm | | |
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Oh no! 
How will the UK survive how about getting some of the million unemployed back into work that's how!
JC can lead his ex Labour MP's into meaningful work
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#1054 26 Dec 2019 at 2.48pm | | |
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No blankets for the pigs at wetherspoons....
Apparently a shortage of EU workers with the required dexterity.
The brexit self destruction has started already!
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#1053 25 Dec 2019 at 1.02am | | |
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Here in America there's 2nd and 3rd generation welfare people.
Go into the grocery store and you'll see someone with a cart piled high with high end foods and pay for it with food stamps.
But they always seem to have money for beer and cigarettes.
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#1052 23 Dec 2019 at 8.26pm | | |
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Sounds like my neighbour
Used to work in a brewery on shifts, four days on, four days in the garden pissed lol
Had a job and pretended to pull his back, told me, on the sick for months, built a massive deck at the back of his house all that summer while he was off, put a claim in and got paid out the lazy **** and left not long after
Got another job, was there around 12 months, on the sick again all summer, stress. Guess what, still not been back to work, he has put a claim in against them too ffs
His mrs is a teacher, worked in around 3 different schools to my knowing, when she was at work, off all the time sat in the garden with him!
Supply teacher now, couple of days a week lol
Suppose they have paid a bit of tax and NI but they have milked a few business
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#1051 23 Dec 2019 at 4.51pm | | |
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Perpetuated by a load of do-gooders who are taken in and stand up for them,
I suspect there may be one or two on this thread
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#1050 23 Dec 2019 at 2.56pm | | |
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Loads of that going on mate best telly' phones etc then plead poverty makes me sick
I live in a respected area with hardly any unemployment apart from maybe a few including my neighbor who's a Brit and a frigging freeloader in his 50's single nothing wrong with him but can't be bothered to work apart from 2 weeks at Royal Mail at xmas then goes back on the dole all year because he knows how to work the system been doing it years, he was moaning last year the dole don't contribute to buying his cloths any more and bragging about his Counsil tax discount on top of the 25% he gets for living alone plus he's down the pub 3 days a week I could go on
F*****g winds me up as you can tell so I keep out of his way now
Rant over
Happy Christmas All
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#1049 23 Dec 2019 at 1.54pm | | |
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some, not all eastern europeans admit to working for cash over here’ and claiming benefit which goes straight back to their country. i asked some if they think its right doing this’ most of them say why not’ your country makes the rules’ and we declare some of the cash. i suppose you can’t blame them’ they must feel like they are in disney land when they arrive.
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#1048 23 Dec 2019 at 12.17pm | | |
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That’s a word ain’t it, human rights. Our countries human rights you mean, some have virtually none!
It’s a common joke round our way, there is a massive council estate nearby and virtually every house has a Sky dish on the wall, probably a must if your sat on your arse everyday. Thats probably £90 a month. I did not have Sky for a long time because I could not afford it or should I say justify it nor had the desire to pay out £90 for TV. Now that’s a pure luxury for me...
Once in the local post office and I refrained from smashing this morons face through the glass panel several times as he ripped verbal abuse into the lady behind the counter because his real words “his money had not come” he was referring to his gyro check, his money. I felt like paying him straight out of my pocket in sympathy, ****
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#1047 23 Dec 2019 at 12.05pm | | |
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The government should run the employment agency in alignment with benefit claims. You have not got a job? We will give you one, how’s that. You don’t want the job, no benefits then.
Another one I cannot grasp. Stop paying out cash. Housing and food vouchers should be the way forward.
Probably against their human rights
I accept their are a few genuine cases of hardship but I do wonder how many plead poverty but somehow manage to keep up their Sky subscription 
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#1046 23 Dec 2019 at 11.20am | | |
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Don’t get me going with employment agency’s. I’ve dealt with a few over the years. They make me laugh with their fancy titles, chairman and director of the board at xyz agency and he / she is only 20 lol. If it was down to me I would put these out of business today, exploiting people big time, just creaming money of their wages, bang out of order. Still it’s another one the government can let go of, keeps the unemployment figures down. The government should run the employment agency in alignment with benefit claims. You have not got a job? We will give you one, how’s that. You don’t want the job, no benefits then.
Another one I cannot grasp. Stop paying out cash. Housing and food vouchers should be the way forward. You look at the rest of the world and it is unbelievable what we do. It’s a free for all and then we wonder why they are queuing up to get in ffs
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#1045 23 Dec 2019 at 11.18am | | |
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#1044 23 Dec 2019 at 10.57am | | |
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Hippy teacher?
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#1043 23 Dec 2019 at 8.23am | | |
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Down here it’s generally used for a freeloader but I have heard it used to describe a ......
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#1042 22 Dec 2019 at 9.41pm | | |
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Shame on you, that's uncalled for and very hurtful
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#1041 22 Dec 2019 at 9.35pm | | |
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Isn't that just the arsenal 1st eleven?
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#1040 22 Dec 2019 at 9.29pm | | |
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Must be regional 'cos down here it mainly means someone who asks for money from others and gives back nothing in return.
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#1039 22 Dec 2019 at 9.16pm | | |
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That's twice you've used the word ponces now. Do you care to explain what you mean by it as I know that there are regional variations in slang.
Where I come from its an offensive derogatory homophobic term that probably shouldn't be in use on the forum
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#1038 22 Dec 2019 at 9.08pm | | |
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yes i love america, all that open space and like minded people, i’d go and live there in a flash’ i’m too old though.
not all peachey there mind’ they don’t generally share my love of carp fishing’ i’ll settle for the numerous other species no problem. they don’t make decent tea either, only small niggles really.
no not at the football today’ i was working hard and paying my taxes to fund the spongers and ponces
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#1037 22 Dec 2019 at 8.36pm | | |
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You seem to like the USA
They've got Trump, racist truck drivers who share your opinion on immigration, and increasingly more and more bits of British companies and organisations...
Have you ever considered moving there?
Btw, you weren't at the spurs v Chelsea game today were you?
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#1036 22 Dec 2019 at 7.27pm | | |
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Large numbers of people sometimes do stupid **** with no benefit for some reason, like the near on 4 million who voted Lib Dem in the GE
Most of my political input is tongue in cheek or wildly exaggerated as you can probably see, but am not a huge fan of unions, nationalising of services or the handout culture; so can’t support labour.
I also have nothing of note to conserve, but support my local Conservative mp because he’s a committed, honest bloke and the alternatives scare me to death
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#1035 22 Dec 2019 at 7.11pm | | |
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Yes?
Let me guess your cap size. Definitely small. Now style, definitely white, probably a pointed shape and when removed you've got a tinfoil skull cap. Close....?
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#1034 22 Dec 2019 at 6.48pm | | |
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yes, if the cap fits eh.
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#1033 22 Dec 2019 at 6.42pm | | |
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I'm pleased people who privately converse with you think that. So pleased
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#1032 22 Dec 2019 at 6.40pm | | |
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i’m not sure what your problem is’ i am taking part in a discussion and expressing my views like everybody else here. yet you seem hell bent on trying to either belittle people or making comments to rile people.
i’ll ask you a question now’ are you a real stupid c***’ or a figment of your imagination? general opinion i’ve received through pm’s and emails is’ you are real stupid c***
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#1031 22 Dec 2019 at 6.23pm | | |
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We're a country with the premise of rule of law Noj, still plenty of lawyer's about. Wonder why 6 million are TU members voluntarily
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#1030 22 Dec 2019 at 6.13pm | | |
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Are you a real person Mook or a figment of your ( think that's the one Ip100) own or the internet's imagination?
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#1029 22 Dec 2019 at 5.00pm | | |
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i think your comment about having a businessman in charge is more than valid scozza. i have friends and some family in the usa. they were in serious money trouble over there pre trump. So a billionaire successful business man was elected. he promised he would return their industry and sort out the failing economy’ which he did’ he was as good as his word’ and they have never had it so good over there’ yet there is so much hate for him from certain people, usually coincidentally from wealthy people who had money pre trump. now they’ or rather some want him out, they should be careful what they wish for if you ask me.
i think no matter how great a president or prime minister is’ there will be negativity from some’ it is what it is.
Boris acts the clown and in by no means perfect but’ he is very patriotic and has not had an easy road trying to deliver what we voted for. he’s kept his composure even in the face of blatant corruption’ and finally got his result. i’ll always respect him for that at least.
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#1028 22 Dec 2019 at 4.43pm | | |
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My sister in law is a nurse on an NHS contract. She refuses overtime when asked by the NHS but is registered with an agency. Accepts the overtime from the agency and works in the same ward when doing so for more money from the agency. Who's really paying for the agencies profit, and her extra money?? Get rid of the third mouth in the wages chain for me. It's unnecessary and takes our money away from where it's ment. Free market Tory government policy won't stop it, only encourage.
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#1027 22 Dec 2019 at 4.37pm | | |
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Bring back the workhouses and get those bloody kids back up the chimneys 
Though that would suit the unions, who currently just skim a living off people that are more often than not completely in the wrong when they require help, some cases I’ve heard about from a union rep I know personally are laughable. The laws and regulations now in place protect workers and make Unions almost superfluous, H&S is so prevalent in the workplace any injuries are probably the result of stupidity and should fall on the employee rather than employer. I know various employers and it’s such a ball ache I wonder why some bother, you can’t even sack somebody that can’t do the job properly in some cases!?
As a silver lining everybody should feel at ease knowing should they fall on hard times or become ill we live in a country that will care for and support them. Problem with that is people will take advantage and some never feel it necessary to do a days work in their lives, but name me an act of kindness or courtesy that some degenerate won’t take advantage of...
The recurring theme will not be that those people are white, black, brown, European, Asian, African or anything else; they are simply ****s
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#1026 22 Dec 2019 at 3.59pm | | |
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I have worked in few different industries, I have seen 3 of them now raped of their technology and market share by buyouts from foreign businesses, It’s disgraceful and the government has stood by and done **** all
Only same as London, how much of that has been sold off to the Chinks
We need somebody with a business brain, not another pompous ****ing moron
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#1025 22 Dec 2019 at 3.53pm | | |
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The immigrants are doing the jobs that the lazy white ****s can’t be bothered to do. They want 30k a year with no skills. Easier to sit at home, watch Sky and blame every **** else, that’s the problem
We are in a completely different economic environment now and I’m sorry but unless they are disabled and cannot work they need to get people contributing for their payment, make the work worthwhile again otherwise we going to have a majority sat of their ****ing arses, we cannot sustain that, at all
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#1024 22 Dec 2019 at 2.18pm | | |
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#1023 22 Dec 2019 at 2.16pm | | |
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I bet the staff were shocked when they got it out and found a barely alive hamster still inside it too...
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#1022 22 Dec 2019 at 2.12pm | | |
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No jam jar stuck up his bum
And that's not rhyming slang it really was a jam jar 
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#1021 22 Dec 2019 at 2.00pm | | |
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Nose job gone wrong jimmer?
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#1020 22 Dec 2019 at 1.49pm | | |
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i’m not blaming europe for everything but’ i certainly believe our membership is causing a lot of problems that cannot be rectified’ unless we either leave or are at the very least given back our own laws’ border control and fishing rights for example, plus quite a few other points that make us as members left with our hands tied.
brexit was inevitable from many year back’ one of the main reasons was always peoples concern about immigration. Our country is just way to small for all the hoards pouring in’ it’s plain to see and has been for a long time.
Immigration is a double edged sword’ yes many migrants bring something to the table and do the work many born and bred brits refuse or can’t do. the other side of it is’ those extra people have to be housed, kids schooled, they drive cars and will use the nhs. a vicious circle if you like. i was once in a truck stop in the states’ i got talking to some truck drivers’ they were all very racist and moaning about the amount of migrants flooding in. i explained to them it was the same here but’ the big difference is’ they have the room for the extra people’ we do not. they all agreed. Britain is a small island and england a tiny country’ we cannot sustain the numbers’ it really is that simple. it doesn’t need to be turned into a racist or bigotry scenario, it all about the numbers. it’s like a bucket being topped up with water’ at some stage it will overflow. where should the line be drawn?
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#1019 22 Dec 2019 at 1.36pm | | |
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I recently spent a few hours at Medway emergency centre and watched the staff nurse chat with nearly everyone that passed, be they cleaner, porter,ambulance, doctor...none of it was work related as I could hear and eventually after what seemed an eternity she picked a clipboard up and called my name ... but this wasn’t an isolated incident, I witnessed pockets of chatting staff everywhere, I’m not saying they shouldn’t talk to each other but I’m bloody certain if they reeled it in a bit then people would be seen a lot quicker.... imagine being in the queue at Tesco’s and all the cashiers are have a good old chin wag, you’d soon get a back log
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#1018 22 Dec 2019 at 12.59pm | | |
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Too much management who really only succeed in managing to run the trust which employs them into the ground, then whoever is in government gets the blame.
There were umpteen people behind the scenes clearly on very good money that contributed absolutely nothing.. like the health and safety guy who we had to bring up to speed daily with regs he didn’t understand and actually broke his arm last week
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#1017 22 Dec 2019 at 12.51pm | | |
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on the NHS...
A friend of a friend is a qualified nurse. She quit her job in an NHS hospital because of the pay and conditions etc. And decided to do agency nursing. She now goes back in to the same hospital on a hugely increased rate of pay doing the same work as before as there's a need for qualified nurses... if she works bank holidays etc the rate is even higher.
I'm not condoning or criticising her actions, simply making the observation as she's obviously not the only one doing it.
Shows what a mess the organisation is in.
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#1016 22 Dec 2019 at 12.40pm | | |
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People should also, before blaming the EU or government, take a look at themselves.
Overcrowding of roads could be eased by lazy ****s walking the 1/2 mile journey to drop little Tarquin at school or picking up an avocado and almond milk from Waitrose.
Having worked in an nhs hospital the last few weeks I can safely say without immigration there would simply be a building full of ageing white brits with nobody to provide care except a few who believe work ethic means turning up, but not actually doing anything. The money I was on also shows they are so out of touch with reality it’s embarrassing.... I was probably on a better daily rate than some doctors
Maybe it’s different elsewhere in the country but London would be lost without immigrants and we should be thankful somebody will do the jobs which keep the country ticking, because most brits somehow feel that they are above modestly paid menial jobs; even though they are probably thick as ****, lazy and unskilled.
Except those with a nonsense degree which cost the tax payer a fortune that work in McDonald’s or Tesco.
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#1015 22 Dec 2019 at 12.02pm | | |
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There's where the main differences between remain and leave voting people are I believe Mook.
You blame the EU for where we are, many others blame the government's we've had over the last 50 years. Blaming the EU totally was always like an angler blaming his bait for blanking, a cop out in my view.
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#1014 22 Dec 2019 at 11.49am | | |
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well again it’s opinion based but’ i think there has been multiple times and eras of britain being great’ for the people and governments, and other countries that benefited from such times.
the end of the two world wars come to mind mainly because us and our allies restored peace again. as mentioned before’ some of the european countries were very grateful to us at the time for liberating them’ and stopping their countries becoming german states. it was soon forgotten though it seems.
another era when the industrial revolution was in full swing’ was a time when we prospered and had things to offer.
the forming of the british empire could also be seen as great by many’ but i have mixed feelings on that. as britain often poked their nose in where it wasn’t wanted. also many foreigners were handed british passports to soften the blow. this prompted some of the early immigration problems too.
a time when britain was great for me’ was when i was a boy and then growing up. it wasn’t overcrowded then, traffic jams were rare’ plenty of open space and countryside. enough jobs for the population’ nhs was coping well’ plenty of schools.
always saw police walking the beat’ clipping us round the ear for swearing or scrumping. stabbing and shootings were a rare occurrence. usually a single stabbing would make tv news and be shock horror. drugs were out there’ not like now though. People’s opinions were not stifled either. there was terrorism tbh’ but not like we see now’ and it was because we poked our noses into others business.
whenever the eras were when britain was great’ it wasn’t great all the time’ but overall better than current times. the real problem is overcrowding, it causes most of the issues that people moan about today. there is no balance, there are little countries like ours and other parts of europe’ that have strived to get civilised and successful’ then are preyed on by immigrants that are legal and illegal. then somewhere huge like australia with hardly anybody living there.
Immigration should have stopped here a long time ago’ but it didn’t’ this was a big factor in the start of brexit.
i don’t really care what colour or race people are’ or where they come from i just don’t think we want any more here’ and getting rid of the illegals would be a start. some will leave anyway once we leave europe according to research’ but there will need to be proper control over immigration until the numbers are down to a level where everybody can breath a bit and have a better quality of life.
there still many that believe in britain’ and believe we are trying to make it great again without being a puppet for brussels. i’m one of those people.
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#1013 22 Dec 2019 at 11.44am | | |
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Same Scozza
My wife worked for a US private equity firm based out of San Francisco for the last 4 years until recently. She looked after the Middle East, Europe and Africa divisions of the billion$ company. The PE owned many famous and old British brands and site's in Staffordshire, Cambridge and London. The London site was closed the Staffordshire site has halved in employees and all manufacturing outsourced to the far East. The Cambridge site has such a high turnover of staff because of wage and conditions cuts it's ridiculous. All new pipe line product development halted and sent to the US.
The PE has made a fortune, all profits San Francisco bound instead of UK bound,so did the shareholders that sold the companies to the PE intially.
Merry Christmas Cobham employees from the UK government of feral free marketeers no matter what the cost
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#1012 22 Dec 2019 at 9.21am | | |
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It wasn't kept secret, the sale was given approval in July, its a global business with employees all over the world and several sites with some owned and some leased so it takes time to draw up a contract of sale.
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#1011 21 Dec 2019 at 9.16pm | | |
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Yeah the sale was agreed back then
Can't for the life of me think why they'd keep the approval of a sale of MOD related business to an American company a little secret until after the election.....
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#1010 21 Dec 2019 at 9.00pm | | |
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The sale was agreed by shareholders but required government approval. Which they now have.
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#1009 21 Dec 2019 at 8.50pm | | |
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The NHS will be next, said it for a long time, everything that was great will eventually be destroyed 
It’s a simple one for me and it’s no different to a business. Theres the outlay but the returns on the investment are not there, we cannot sustain the current situation and we have been like this for a long time. Time for a radical change to get this country back on track. Too many people trying to milk it and not enough contribution
There’s one, didn’t that **** Thatcher start this, privatisation or a driving advocate of it
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#1008 21 Dec 2019 at 8.42pm | | |
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So when he says was allowed to be sold last night at 10pm by Boris that's factually incorrect
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#1007 21 Dec 2019 at 8.32pm | | |
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That sale was agreed back in July and share holders were well rewarded.
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#1006 21 Dec 2019 at 8.30pm | | |
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That particular buy out I’d imagine was to appease shareholders as much as anything else.
Conflict is big business and the US is a world leader in both business and conflict, so it makes sense to me.
If the next major conflict turns nuclear then jet refuelling will be as much use as a d!ck flavoured lollipop
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#1005 21 Dec 2019 at 8.25pm | | |
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Just the start of a slippery slope scozza
Cobhams today, the NHS soon to go. Won't be long before Greggs is selling mom's apple pie and Hershey's pastries....
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#1004 21 Dec 2019 at 7.54pm | | |
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That s something that I am passionate about and close to my heart. We were once the pioneers and leaders of most things in manufacturing and it’s all been pilfered and took away by buy outs over the years, bought the company, raped the technology and shut it down. Makes my ****ing blood boil 
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#1003 21 Dec 2019 at 7.51pm | | |
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Define "Great Britain" but more importantly , who was it great for ?
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#1002 21 Dec 2019 at 7.09pm | | |
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Couldn't agree more , merry brexit , I mean Christmas
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#1001 21 Dec 2019 at 5.53pm | | |
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well , this is not what i have been led to believe by this Tory lot led by Bulls##t Boris
why are our press and media not holding him to account ?
Legal disputes and other matters
Provisions for these issues are also unchanged from the original withdrawal deal.
Although a joint UK-EU committee and an arbitration panel would try to resolve disputes, the UK would remain under the jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice (ECJ) during the transition. Afterwards, its rulings would no longer have direct effect in the UK but it would retain influence.
One contentious issue — that of fishing rights — is left to be dealt with on another day. The agreement says the EU and UK should do their best to strike a separate deal on access to UK waters for EU fishing boats.
A protocol on Gibraltar — the British territory on the southern tip of Spain — seeks to ensure in particular that citizens’ rights are respected. Another, on Cyprus, aims to preserve the current situation — keeping the British military base in the EU’s customs territory.
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#1000 21 Dec 2019 at 5.37pm | | |
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A layman’s summary of the EU’s new ‘UK colonisation treaty’ agreed by the PM yesterday
1. Parliament will not be sovereign - UK still to be governed by existing and new laws of the ECJ – a foreign court – and
with no say over these laws. [WA articles 4, 87, 89 and 127, PD para 131]
2. Demands payment of a sum to be decided by the EU - Minimum £39 billion but this is likely to increase and the
EU decides the final sum. This must be paid BEFORE any trade deal is agreed. [WA articles 138-144, and 152-155]
3. No trade deal with EU – Not included as this is just a divorce treaty. Any EU trade deal must ensure “a level playing field
for open and fair competition” and “deep regulatory and customs cooperation”. This will make it difficult for the UK to reduce
non-tariff barriers in trade deals with USA, Australia, China, etc. [PD paras 17 & 21]
4. Prevents independent tax policy - Political Declaration still obliges UK to adopt a future relationship which will impose
EU State Aid rules and “relevant tax matters” on the UK. EU specifically intends to curb UK’s ability to have “harmful tax
practices”. Withdrawal Treaty also applies EU law to UK during transition period - allowing EU to sue UK, including infringement
proceedings for as yet unidentified breaches of State Aid rules and billions in VAT on commodity derivative transactions dating
back to 1970s. [PD para 77, WA articles 86, 93, 127].
5. Restricts independent foreign policy - UK to be bound by international agreements concluded by the EU despite
having no influence in their negotiation during the transition period and must “refrain, during the transition period, from any
action... which is likely to be prejudicial” to the interests of the EU. [Articles 129(3) and (6)].
6. Prevents independent military action – UK permanently stopped from taking “any action likely to conflict with or
impede” EU’s foreign policies. Critical parts of section on foreign policy and security are not reciprocal, eg future relationship will
not “prejudice the decision-making autonomy of the EU” but no such language for UK – only permitted to “maintain the right
to determine how [to respond] to any invitation to participate in operations or missions”. Also, parties “agree to consider”
security collaboration in European Defence Agency, European Defence Fund, and PESCO “to the extent possible under [EU law]”
which is prescriptive (not permissive) obligation. Despite paying for European Defence Agency during transition, British troops in
EU battlegroups will not be led by British staff officers. [WA articles 129(6-7) and 156-157 and PD paras 99, 102(c)]
7. Controls UK fishing – Common Fisheries Policy continues in UK waters during transition (which can be extended) but UK
will have no say in implementation or enforcement. After transition, Political Declaration requires “cooperation on... regulation
of fisheries, in a non-discriminatory manner” - code for continuing current arrangements for EU access to UK waters. Any trade
deal to “ensure service providers and investors are treated in a non-discriminatory manner, including with regard to
establishment” - prevents UK protecting quotas from EU purchase. [PD paras 29 and 72]
8. Replaces one EU Commission with another - New body established with “powers equivalent to those of the
European Commission”. UK must accept exclusive jurisdiction of Arbitration Panel and judgments of ECJ. Grants EU officials
criminal immunity and exemption from UK tax. Imposes gagging order on UK which must keep all EU information confidential
but EU can use UK information as it sees fit. [WA articles 74, 101, 104-5, 106-116, 159, 168, 174]
9. Leaves UK with €500bn liabilities from EU Investment Bank but no profits - No rights to past and future
profits made from UK investment in EIB, no rights to UK share of assets of EIB, yet UK remaining liable for risk of up to €500bn of
guarantees. UK must let EU bid for UK public projects at least during transition. [WA articles 34, 75-78, 127, 143, 147, 150].
10. EU colonisation - makes UK bystander in laws that govern it - UK permitted to send civil servant to Brussels to observe
EU passing laws designed to disadvantage UK economy during transition which might last many years. EU could regulate
London’s huge foreign exchange markets, impose financial transaction tax that would be collected at UK expense by HMRC but
sent to foreign governments. [WA article 34]
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#999 21 Dec 2019 at 5.21pm | | |
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Those mentioned in the first sentence, it's their choice.
The second sentence will be agreed by everyone Mook.
One of the UK's best aerospace/ defence companies, Cobham, was allowed to be sold last night at 10pm by Boris. Strange time to announce it but he probably has reasons.....To a US private equity company against the wishes and advice of the British founders and Trade Unions.
So much for taking back control, looks like Britain is still for sale to me under this government.
Wayne, yeah right yeah...
Merry Christmas.
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#998 21 Dec 2019 at 4.46pm | | |
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Ralphy’ scozza and wayne, i have the same views as you people.
i really just want my country to have some backbone’ dignity and to resemble something nearer to when it actually was great britain.
regardless of peoples views, we’re leaving europe’ i never wanted to join, so its time everybody got used to the idea. we need a bit of faith and belief. it may be a bumpy ride, it may not but’ we will all make the journey and hopefully it will be or the better. some are to young to remember when we had our own rules and laws’ and did things our way. it was a lot better then ‘opinion’ and although we might not get back that greatness’ who knows’ at least we’re giving it a shot and standing on our own feet again.
whatever your views, have a great christmas all
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#997 21 Dec 2019 at 4.04pm | | |
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Well let's hope for some change for the better eh?
Look at that. Some discussion that didn't result in anyone being a d***
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#996 21 Dec 2019 at 3.53pm | | |
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Agreed but I don’t think there is many contracts out there that offer very little protection or exploit workers. I mean the EU working directive for instance that’s a great idea but most people I know signed out of it because they want to work more hours.
EU is slightly concerned by all accounts as we are about to become competition to them hence why they want a similar alignment to the rules and regs they already have. This will be a big factor in the trade negotiations I think.
Edit - Ocelot it was a tongue in cheek initial comment!
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#995 21 Dec 2019 at 3.50pm | | |
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You have no idea about workers rights, fair enough.
13 minutes later you come to a conclusion
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#994 21 Dec 2019 at 3.48pm | | |
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Labour may have brought them in but nobody has gotten rid of them in the last 9 years..
At least we agree that they are Crap.
As for not taking a job if you don't agree with everything in a contract, I'm afraid that decision is a luxury all can afford. We should be pushing for a system that doesn't have contracts that exploit people shouldn't we?
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#993 21 Dec 2019 at 3.25pm | | |
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Zero hour contracts are crap but look who brought them in......labour! Trade unions are exactly what you say and offer no solutions to workers other than striking. When you sign a work contract you should read it to be fair, anything you don’t like you ask to be amended or don’t take the job.
My understanding of child refugees is the parents are already here and now want there children brought over. That doesn’t sit well with me at all. Another point, I wish the government would take the stance of no benefits of any kind are available in this country unless you have worked here for a minimum of 3 years and even then the handout is only equivalent of NI contributions in that time. This should apply to all not just people from the EU!
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#992 21 Dec 2019 at 3.12pm | | |
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Hmmmm
I'm definitely no fan of the hard left trade unionists who use strike action to hold people to ransom but I can't agree with disbanding them all and leaving many honest hard working people without some forms of protection in employment. Look at the way zero hours contracts are exploited.
As for refugee children it doesn't sit right with me that they become victims of what looks to be an inhumane approach. There are lots of reasons why a child could end up separated from family (parents could have been killed and they are looking to find other family as an example ). The key thing for me is that it's not the fault of the child.
As I said already I'm hoping for positive change but I'm not overly impressed with a start that looks a bit like more broken promises.
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#991 21 Dec 2019 at 2.47pm | | |
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Quick google and I’m not sure they were needed. I mean how the hell does someone come here without there kids......
Workers rights......seems like the trade unions are shouting the most and to be fair there a pain in the arse and should be disbanded......
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#990 21 Dec 2019 at 2.46pm | | |
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Are we not getting carried away here?
I would close the door to all immigrants today, this absolute second. Does that make me a racist because I’m sick to death of people milking this country ****ing dry!
I probably sound selfish here but I don’t give a ****. I am sick of trying to be politically correct as a few other million I suspect. We need to get this country back on track and this is just one problem of many that needs to be addressed, quickly, that’s a fact.
As does all the lazy ****s who have no intention of working
As does the NHS, people milking it dry
As does
And so on
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#989 21 Dec 2019 at 2.44pm | | |
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Both were parts of the original document but boris removed them yesterday before the vote.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-brexit-bill-latest-child-refugee-protections-1346104%3famp
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#988 21 Dec 2019 at 2.34pm | | |
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I have no Idea about the protection of workers rights or the child refugees you mention. Care to explain?
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#987 21 Dec 2019 at 2.06pm | | |
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Don't you start ralphy.
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#986 21 Dec 2019 at 1.59pm | | |
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You on about them kids with beards
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#985 21 Dec 2019 at 1.44pm | | |
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Unfortunately not always.
No surprise that the withdrawal deal went through yesterday. I was a bit surprised at the numbers on both sides though. Seems that quite a few mp's didn't vote on it at all. Given the importance and the fact that they had one job to do yesterday it's not the most auspicious start....
What's your thinking on boris removing the protection of workers rights and child refugees elements?
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#984 21 Dec 2019 at 1.36pm | | |
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Let’s not confuse hate speach and an opinion.....2 different things entirely.....
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#983 21 Dec 2019 at 12.32pm | | |
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Thanks for answering correctly on my behalf.
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#982 21 Dec 2019 at 12.06pm | | |
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No.
He mentioned one person from a right wing party.
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#981 21 Dec 2019 at 12.03pm | | |
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So your calling the millions who voted for the Conservative Party "Racists" You need help!
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#980 21 Dec 2019 at 11.56am | | |
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I'm glad you've said "your man". I see Paul Golding leader of Britain First is now a member of the Conservative Party so you're in like minded company Mook.
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#979 21 Dec 2019 at 11.16am | | |
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Maybe a couple of examples might help?
Hitler supported the idea of a pure bred society at the expense of racial diversity. This is what is known as a fact.
Nigel farage knows everything about immigration. This is factually incorrect.
Christmas is all about being able to freely make statements that are nasty and divisive. This is an opinion. Not a very intelligent opinion nor one that i would support in any way, but an opinion nonetheless.
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#978 21 Dec 2019 at 11.02am | | |
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Mook you seem to be struggling with the basic concept so here is some help...
'The fact is described as the statement that can be verified or proved to be true. Opinion is an expression of judgment or belief about something. Fact relies on observation or research while opinion is based on assumption. The fact is an objective reality whereas opinion is a subjective statement.'
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#977 21 Dec 2019 at 10.48am | | |
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you’re doing it again, factually incorrect in your opinion’ not mine. i think you’d argue in an empty phone box.
what a great christmas this year, we got rid of the corrupt, hammered the socialist reds’ our man is firmly in the driving seat’ we are leaving the carzy known as europe, and maybe even no deal as a bonus. the new year is looking peachy too. i’m so happy i’m tempted to go carol singing.
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#976 21 Dec 2019 at 10.43am | | |
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i think you’re a **** stirring twonk, and part of the group of stupid people i mentioned earlier. is there a term for somebody that doesn’t like **** stirring stupid twonks?
Maybe when we get our own laws back, speakers corner might be popular again, and people can once again speak their minds without being persecuted.
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#975 21 Dec 2019 at 10.11am | | |
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It's never wasted time calling out a bigot Mook.
There are many things in need of change in this country. Relaxing laws on hate speech as you would like is not one of them, now go away.
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#974 21 Dec 2019 at 9.29am | | |
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WB went through with ease.....loved JC face......
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#973 21 Dec 2019 at 8.55am | | |
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Not my opinion Mook no, what you said is factually incorrect. This is what you seem to struggle with and why you were rightfully called out for it.
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#972 20 Dec 2019 at 10.56pm | | |
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you forgot to say’ in your opinion.
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#971 20 Dec 2019 at 10.55pm | | |
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they seem to be bothering you more than me or anybody else. i won’t change my views or opinions, or silence them’ to keep you or the pc snowflakes happy. so don’t waste time typing your drivel to me.
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#970 20 Dec 2019 at 9.28pm | | |
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Anyway , i am out on the lash , happy Christmas everyone , i hope it all works out for all of us and our family's sake ! we are all in the same boat at the end of the day !
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#969 20 Dec 2019 at 9.21pm | | |
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of course you can make predictions lots have have been made and most are pretty negative for the economy especially if it comes to leaving without a deal.
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#968 20 Dec 2019 at 9.17pm | | |
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Mook sorry mate but you were spreading stuff that was demonstrably wrong about immigration.
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#967 20 Dec 2019 at 7.57pm | | |
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"One day, we might even be allowed to voice an opinion again’ instead of being labelled, a racist, or sexist or homophobic’ ageist"
Let's leave Mexican food for now and use your examples, that are clearly bothering you.
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#966 20 Dec 2019 at 7.10pm | | |
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I was giving examples’ of what people get labelled with if they air certain views and opinions.
i’ll give you an example, i do not like rapists or paedos or other forms of similar scum. is there a term or phobia name for people like me’ that can’t tolerate these scum or what they do. or is it i happen to have my opinion on them?
i think once these filth are convicted, they should be taken downstairs, killed and incinerated. Is there a name for this opinion too.
i’m not over keen on mexican food, does this make me a food racist?
thanks for giving me permission to crack on too, i think you look forward to my posts maybe
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#965 20 Dec 2019 at 6.51pm | | |
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Thanks for answering incorrectly on my behalf
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#964 20 Dec 2019 at 6.48pm | | |
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At least someone can follow a thread
No-one on here is stopping you from expressing your opinions Mook. Crack on and get the ones out there that you believe are not sexiest, racist, ageist, homophobic etc that you're moaning about getting labeled as in our society.
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#963 20 Dec 2019 at 6.44pm | | |
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Because you don't agree with him / them
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#962 20 Dec 2019 at 6.05pm | | |
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stupid is no worse than bigot, troll or clown though is it
@ocelot why are you accusing me of bigotry?
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#961 20 Dec 2019 at 5.46pm | | |
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Nobody can make predictions without evidence/facts to go on – Brexit has never happened before; how the hell could anyone make a prediction?
E.G. Look at all the “Pie in the Sky” predictions that were made about the referendum if people voted to leave, all proved to be false, wrong, concocted via a broken crystal ball...............
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#960 20 Dec 2019 at 5.06pm | | |
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I would love to know how you think Brexit will all unravel , ie , the economic impact on our economy , jobs , say , over a ten year period ?
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#959 20 Dec 2019 at 3.47pm | | |
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It started a long time before that, in fact about 31/2” years ago after a Referendum vote did not go the political correct way a few where convinced it would.
The same few still appear to be living in alternative imaginary universe, and probably still will even after today’s vote in parliament.
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#958 20 Dec 2019 at 3.28pm | | |
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I think post 887 was the start of the whole calling people stupid thing that's gotten silly on here...
Just saying...
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#957 20 Dec 2019 at 3.15pm | | |
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If you say so, you're always right and anyone who doesn't agree is stupid.
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#956 20 Dec 2019 at 2.56pm | | |
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Help what? Calling out bigotry? It's clear who that post was replying to and accurate
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#955 20 Dec 2019 at 2.16pm | | |
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Bernhard Manning's Embassy Club doesn't help does it
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#954 20 Dec 2019 at 1.27pm | | |
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Snide?
Get off your fake high horse and understand what's actually being written on this thread. It's insidious by some.
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#953 20 Dec 2019 at 8.19am | | |
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I'm hoping that Boris steps up to the plate and hope a lot of remainers will be pleasantly surprised and expect a lot of leavers will be somewhat disappointed. Noted that the Tories have already stated any minimum wage rise will be dependent on the economy and I expect that to become a common theme with a number of promises.
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#952 19 Dec 2019 at 11.32pm | | |
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Honestly I reckon most people will just carry on trying to get through their day to day. Although I can't speak for all and definitely not for labour voters
I do think that when - not if - things take a downturn there will be a lot of 'I told you so' but to be fair that's always the way with politics. You can't keep all the people happy all the time.
I'm hoping for some positive change regarding the environment and genuinely hope that the nasty and devisive politics of the brexit years will shift and become more productive. It is of course dependent on those who now have a large majority stepping up and delivering. Johnson has made a lot of noise about delivering for those who have switched their vote but he's not the best at keeping promises so far.... we can only hope eh?
As for not having any control over things... I'm afraid that's all of us for the foreseeable near future.
At least now there'll only be one place to lay the blame...
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#951 19 Dec 2019 at 8.00pm | | |
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hello wayne’ i think they will carry on telling us all it was a mistake, and they lay blame to everything with boris and brexit.
now i will have to be careful as i have given another opinion.
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#950 19 Dec 2019 at 7.28pm | | |
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This rhetorical question?
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#949 19 Dec 2019 at 6.58pm | | |
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Well you did ask for postcards and you know what the post is like this time of year.
I reckon they'll be stamping their feet.
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#948 19 Dec 2019 at 6.40pm | | |
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guess no one will answer my question then..........
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#947 19 Dec 2019 at 6.38pm | | |
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Don't encourage him Chris it's just cheap snide comments from bad losers .
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#946 19 Dec 2019 at 5.51pm | | |
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definitely’ after all’ its nearly christmas lol
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#945 19 Dec 2019 at 4.20pm | | |
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Crackers
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#944 19 Dec 2019 at 3.22pm | | |
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well you need to prepare for any eventuality, none of us really know how it will go’ but we have the faith and confidence in our country and pm, to get us back on our own two feet. like we used to be before being whored out to europe.
manning had opinions possibly different to yours, also an admirer of some of the tory party. you might also be somebody who does not like different views and opinions to your own’ like the person in this debate who calls people trolls or clowns who don’t share his views. you have to have faith in the country and the man in charge, who got a big majority vote.
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#943 19 Dec 2019 at 12.21pm | | |
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In reply to Post #942
I've often wondered where leaving the EU would take us. Bernhard Manning's Embassy Club never crossed my mind until now Mook.
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#942 19 Dec 2019 at 10.31am | | |
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no deal might be back on the table now, this gives me a warm glow.
One day, we might even be allowed to voice an opinion again’ instead of being labelled, a racist, or sexist or homophobic’ ageist or even a clown for voicing our opinions.
Christmas feels like its come early.
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#941 19 Dec 2019 at 10.18am | | |
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In reply to Post #938
Mate don't take it to heart, opinions are like ********s everyone has one and sometimes what comes out is not what you like or believe.
Labour and JC monumentally ****ed up, took the north for granted and believed what's good for Islington is good for the country!
Now the MP whores are spouting who is the more working class and in touch with the North are a "Sir" and "Lady" to win the leadership race.
I had a poo this morning i bet these had 2 poo's!
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#940 18 Dec 2019 at 8.04pm | | |
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In reply to Post #938
Calm down Mal. We know
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#939 18 Dec 2019 at 7.49pm | | |
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Question and on a serious note now brexit is happening and the tories are in goverment for the next 5 yrs will the remainers and labour voters give peace a chance and actually try to embrace the changes coming or will they still be stamping there feet and moaning about stuff they have no control over......
Answers on a postcard please.....
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#938 18 Dec 2019 at 7.38pm | | |
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In reply to Post #937
Just for clarity's sake, my post about ditching old people etc. Was (I thought) clearly a p*** take of the fascist tendencies I could see under the surface of the troll posts (thanks to the forum member who pointed it out to me)
I hadn't expected anyone who knows me via here, or with a bit of sense, to actually take it seriously. I mean... really?!?!
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#937 18 Dec 2019 at 7.24pm | | |
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In reply to Post #927
I used to work with a lad who had 5 kids, he worked it out, if he claimed he would be about £140 a month down at the time and could stay at home all day, he didn’t for self pride
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#936 18 Dec 2019 at 7.21pm | | |
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In reply to Post #926
SNP, don’t get me started on Jimmie ****ing Crankie. I would drop the Scots today
Echo that about the pensions and genuinely disabled
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#935 18 Dec 2019 at 7.01pm | | |
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quick read for those convinced of immigration causing the NHS's problems : https://www.health.org.uk/news-and-comment/blogs/immigration-and-the-nhs-the-evidence
and here is the proper UK fact checker, not the fake tory one: https://fullfact.org/europe/eu-immigration-and-pressure-nhs/
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#934 18 Dec 2019 at 6.38pm | | |
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Austerity was brought about because 13yrs of a labour government had made the UK debt rise from £350 billion to £950 billion. Add the banking crisis and the fact they did **** all about meant the UK REALLY WAS IN THE ****!
At the end of the day BJ and the cons appealed to the many and not the few......
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#933 18 Dec 2019 at 6.34pm | | |
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In reply to Post #913
And we would be better off leaving without a 'deal' . (crap one)
Lets look after ourselves and our people; like our homeless instead of making beds for try ya luck immigrants.
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#932 18 Dec 2019 at 6.27pm | | |
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In reply to Post #925
THE HAVE NEARLY TRIPLED THE UK DEBT , WAKE UP , ALL THIS AUSTERITY , FOR WHAT ???? WAKE UP ! HOLD THEM TO ACCOUNT !
I was brought up to pay off your debts before taking out more debt!
Jezza had the chance to hold them to account but his baggage with terrorists, his baggage over anti-Semitism and his left wing student political dogma didn't connect with the public. His overflowing money tree and pressies for all was unbelievable. Still the Labour party won't apologise and admit | |
