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ip100

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#603 4 Jun 2019 at 7.02pm

In reply to Post #602
Chris I've not said he's not beatable, or better than them what I'm saying is why do you say he's ducking others when you don't know either way?! He's got flaws, as have they all. Fact is the others have gone other directions of their own accord, if they were that confident of beating him why wouldn't they sign up? After all he is the big money fight, that you can't deny! Ruiz did a number yeah, but that number started off the back of a joshua mistake. Aj seems to have very little power of recovery, and that will always show against a pressure fighter like ruiz.

Still can't believe you gave Taylor the w either... 😂

Just seen the rematch clause has been triggered, hearn is saying Nov or Dec in cardiff

scozza

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#602 4 Jun 2019 at 6.42pm

In reply to Post #601
Without sounding like a complete knob, i have boxed myself and sparred hundreds of rounds, more, and watched hundreds of fights so I�m quite confident in saying AJ has a lot of flaws, I can see them, his defence is terrible which makes him easy to hit, he has been close to been sparked several times. His movement is very poor which leaves him static at times, which again only makes this problem even worse and he cannot take a punch.

Rob McCracken can only work with what he has got. Lots of muscle, use the range and put them on the jab, Ruiz just slipped him and put it on him

I�m not a hater, I post what I belive, if you read through this thread or others I have posted my thoughts all the way through, and without sounding like a **** I knew he was not the real deal, I did not get caught up in the hype, Hearn has just manipulated him and the public.

Now if your telling me he stands a chance against Fury or Wilder that I find hard to belive but like I�ve posted before, time will tell. Wilder sparks him and Fury makes him look a proper dope

I had him as the 3rd best in the world until Ruiz did a job on him

You will see

ip100

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#601 4 Jun 2019 at 6.23pm

In reply to Post #600
Yeah ruiz had him down, but not until he'd been caught rushing in for the finish. He wasn't right either, something else was up for sure. Why else would his old man be ranting at Eddie hearn in the ring straight afterwards? Did you hear him between rounds? Asking why he felt that way (before he'd even been tagged). There's definitely more to it than we know. You keep saying he's ducking, but how do you know that? You don't! It could be the others ducking him, nobody knows except themselves. We can all speculate, but nobody knows either way. Fact is wilder was made an offer and turned it down and now has his next couple of fights lined up so obviously he's not overly interested in fighting aj. Equally, fury had the rematch with wilder there, chance to regain a belt (which I think he does), but no, he signs to fight the number 59 ranked hw in the world. Very ambitious...

scozza

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#600 4 Jun 2019 at 5.54pm

In reply to Post #599
Mmmmmm, not sure about the win, Ruiz had him down four times not once, got his number, some big changes required for AJ but we will see

The good news is if he does win there can be no ducking and diving now, it�s Wilder or Fury and that I can�t wait to see

ip100

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#599 4 Jun 2019 at 4.59pm

In reply to Post #598
Yeah definitely, it's already in the existing contract so it's all but a done deal. Only way it doesn't happen is if aj doesn't take it and I can't see that happening. He knows he has to take it, and win in style to get some credibility back (which I expect him to do).

scozza

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#598 4 Jun 2019 at 4.55pm

In reply to Post #597
The rematch will happen, certain belts or not

Otherwise AJ is back on the ladder

ip100

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#597 4 Jun 2019 at 4.47pm

In reply to Post #594
He will rematch aj definitely, clause in the contract, plus where else will he get anywhere near that kind of money? He may end up stripped of one of the titles before hand but I still expect him to accept that rather than take a mandatory. He loses the mandatory then his huge payday has gone without doubt. I bet the wheels are already in motion arranging it
He gets a couple of hundred k to fight anyone else, a few mill to rematch aj. My bet is Cardiff around November time

scozza

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#596 4 Jun 2019 at 4.34pm

In reply to Post #595
I hope Whyte gets a shot and the belt, that would be amazing

And stir things up proper

BivvieWrecker

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aka Elephant Man

#595 4 Jun 2019 at 4.32pm

In reply to Post #594
If its AJ ruiz he's talking about Gerry then its in the contract AJ has 30 days to respond. I know the WBO belt has a mandatory due september which trumps any rematch clause. Dyllian is number 1 for that mandatory so who knows. Bloody exciting though !

oldgeezer

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#594 4 Jun 2019 at 3.57pm

In reply to Post #589
rematch ? do you think so ?
He will have a mandatory 1st I would have thought and be in no rush for the rematch at all

ip100

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#593 4 Jun 2019 at 8.26am

In reply to Post #592
That's just it Chris, fury has caught many a fighter clean and not rocked them at all. He just doesn't have the power of a man his size. You are very much in the minority regarding kt, she landed some quality shots but never had her opponent in any kind of trouble whereas it looked like she could have been stopped on a couple of occasions, and looked shell-shocked many other times

scozza

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#592 4 Jun 2019 at 6.32am

In reply to Post #591
Fury is a boxer, not a banger I�m quite sure he could lay most people out when the opportunity arises been near on 20 stone lol

Interesting people thoughts on KT, I thought her opponent was just trying to walk here down and suffered counter after counter after counter, 4 or 5 shots at a time, ah well she got the win and deserved it for me

Interested to see what happens next between Ruiz and Joshua

ip100

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#591 3 Jun 2019 at 11.33pm

In reply to Post #590
Absolutely jeff, fury is technically the best hw out there by a long way. If he carried more power then he'd be unbeatable imo, but that lack of the big shot means his opponent has 36 minutes to catch him. Just look at the wilder fight, really only made 2 mistakes and ended up sat on his ass both times. He keeps his concentration, he wins against all of them, but he gets tagged then it could be a different story.
Katie really didn't have a good night, and tbh I don't think it was her being off but her opponent being too physically strong, and not having the already beaten mentality some of her previous opponents have.

jeffire

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#590 3 Jun 2019 at 9.22pm

In reply to Post #589
Thats the first time katie gas been hurt and she didnt like it one bit , she certainly wasnt close to winning that , disgusting scorecards ! She will not relish that rematch .Have said it since first saw joshua as an amateur when pricey put him down sparring , awful defence too slow and one dimensional, fury so much better technically , smith a great fighter in a cracking division.

ip100

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#589 3 Jun 2019 at 10.05am

That's heavyweight boxing for you, one shot can change the tide massively. Seems to take aj way too long to recover. He was looking to take ruiz out and got caught. Always a risk in his fights. Rematch will be a stadium over here, November time, and he will regain his belts, and will still be the cash cow of the division. He was always vulnerable, this just proved how much.
Smith, great performance although an obvious outcome
Taylor, she wasn't even close to winning that fight. She was outmuscled and out scored throughout and benefitted from some of the worst scorecards for a long time. Says a lot when the British pundits were giving her a couple of rounds max. That has to be a rematch and I'd be surprised if one of the governing bodies didn't order it


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