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   Old Thread  #54 26 Jun 2020 at 11.32am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I've got the price list at home looked at these a few years ago
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   Old Thread  #53 14 Jun 2020 at 7.45am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Have a look at Aryn boats in holland - youíll need a trailer, but 100 times better than an inflatable
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   Old Thread  #52 1 Mar 2018 at 1.37am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Here in the US we have little choice but to go afloat.
Many (most) of our local waters, ranging from 200 to 20,000 acres, allow any real bank access.
So a boat is essential to get where the fish are.
One of the inflatables discussed here would be great if available.

I personally use a 16ft aluminum ĎJonboatí, with a 40Hp motor. That gets from Point A to Point B ok.
Once at the swim, I stake down, and use an Oval brollie for sun and rain cover.
Itís survivable for up to 48 hours.
One of those collapsible camping potties likely to be my next purchase.
Oh yes, big stage stands, throughbolted into the deck....

Another benefit here is to avoid the gun toting nighttime truck drivers who come around the few accessible bank spots late at night. They make one a trifle nervous......
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   Old Thread  #51 28 Feb 2018 at 7.28pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I like the unhooking mat also but canít justify the price
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   Old Thread  #50 28 Feb 2018 at 4.56pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yeah, point taken Ian, you're right mate, if things did get out of shape, right out in open water, it could become a bad situation very quickly.

How about that dufus on the mat? **** for brains comes to mind.
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   Old Thread  #49 28 Feb 2018 at 4.25pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I have seen them in the flesh at the Zwolle show Steve the last few years they are well made/constructed bits of kit very sturdy but that's lay on the ground not open water obviously, my only concern being out in the middle of an expanse of water even with anchors at each corner is when the wind gets up over deep water and you are being battered the anchors become negative if you like if they are fixed at certain depths a bit like having a 1/2lb lead attached to marker poles over 6 meter deep water, I have woken up in the morning when the weather has been a bit boisterous and they have drifted off or moved away from the spots, as mentioned if they were anchored to inaccessible islands or margins I would have no problem but out in the middle of no mans land with potentially a hundred meters of water below you the backside might be going fifty pence half pence.

I was very impressed by their unhooking mat but not the 179 euro price tag although they have shown some idiot using this like a small boat.
Unhooking mat Prat.

I know one of the guys who works for Raptor spoke with him at Zwolle about this not the best in my opinion.
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   Old Thread  #48 28 Feb 2018 at 3.39pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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"but the Bratwurst's swinging about the place was a bit off putting."

I have been looking at the Raptor platforms, and anchored well, i imagine they'd be alright far out, depending on the weather. I guess common sense is key when using anything like this, they seem very solid though, almost like a proper pontoon.

I can see that they would be handy on a big venue, instead of packing everything away, they can be towed to a new location, with minimal fuss. I bet the big ones that can take two bivvy's would pay dividends, if both anglers were making the effort
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   Old Thread  #47 28 Feb 2018 at 1.02pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I think it is a great way of getting out there especially for waters like Bisc or lakes of that size and bigger across European countries.
For safety I think you would just have to keep an eye on the weather if you weren't moored against a bank marginal vegetation or an island even then I dont think I would like to be that far out in a remote unreachable spot.
My mate had a 3.000 mtr dinghy flip on him once on Du Der pushing off the bank when the waves were coming in like white horses, the leisure battery just missed his head he could of been in a nasty accident if it were a few inches the other way, the same guy was catching just off the rigs you mentioned Ken when a boat-full of German nudists moored up and started swimming all over his baited spots, he said he didn't mind that much as there were some attractive women about but the Bratwurst's swinging about the place was a bit off putting.
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   Old Thread  #46 28 Feb 2018 at 12.25pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No, definitely not!
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   Old Thread  #45 27 Feb 2018 at 4.55pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Won't get away with that on bisc now Ken .
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   Old Thread  #44 27 Feb 2018 at 3.48pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Canít beat innovation
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   Old Thread  #43 27 Feb 2018 at 3.47pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Back in around 1997/8 I saw a couple of Dutch guys using two Yaks (that's a boat BTW) lashed together with a platform over the top and a big pump up on the platform. Four anchors held the thing in place and two outboards gave it quite a shift-on. They were using it on one of the huge public waters in SW France, one with oil rigs. They were too far away to see what they were catching but I doubt that they blanked!
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   Old Thread  #42 27 Feb 2018 at 3.40pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The platforms with bivvyís on, are a reletively new idea though, arenít they?
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   Old Thread  #41 27 Feb 2018 at 3.32pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
The Dutch, French and Germans have been using boats for years. It's nothing new...I can recall when Max Nollert first pioneered this idea going on 20 years ago. Everybody said: Brilliant idea and an industry was born. I think the boat with the Karsten pump up is a brilliant idea. More power to yer elbow, mate!
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   Old Thread  #40 27 Feb 2018 at 3.07pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #39 27 Feb 2018 at 3.05pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Not sure if this link will work but here you go. Have plenty of other pics.

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   Old Thread  #38 27 Feb 2018 at 1.46pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi, i donít anybodyís knocking, itís still a relatively new idea, and i think like most things, people need to adjust.
Have you any photos of your set up?
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   Old Thread  #37 27 Feb 2018 at 1.35pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I think it looks excellent and would be perfect for North American fishing.

There is so much water over here that is inaccessible from the bankside and this would be perfect for targetting those spots away from it all.

It would be just about my idea of heaven - set this up, float down the river to a spot miles from anywhere, moor up and then fish for a couple of days with nothing but the wild life around me. What's not to like...

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   Old Thread  #36 27 Feb 2018 at 1.18pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi all

There are several other marks out there as well as the Fox version pictured. Raptor and Vortex both have a 420 in their ranges, with Vortex being the first if I'm correct. I own a Vortex 420 with trailer and a custom made Karsten canopy, which is a heavy canvas material. This ensures that no wind can penetrate the material when out on the water (a huge bonus!) and it is also nice and dark inside so sleep comes easy(another bonus!). I have not long had my boat, and have had a few trips with it, although I had a few trips with a Dutch colleague first to get the hang of things such as setting the anchor lines and trailering the boat in and out of the water safely. It is an acquired skill, and can only really be gained by getting out there and doing it, and in the coming years I shall be towing my boat all over Europe for some quiet, undisturbed fishing away from the masses! People are always quick to knock something they haven't tried, calling it 'overkill' or 'fish at all costs', but the reality is that a lot of the larger European waterways are largely inaccessible from the bank in many areas, and a boat really is the best option to fish and explore. I have limited time to fish (like most!) so I simply wanted to ensure that I had the kit at my disposal to maximise my fishing time and give myself the best chance of catching a few on my terms...why drive hundreds of miles to then hamper your chances by plotting up in the first swim you come across?

I use a second, smaller boat that tows behind the 420 for dropping rigs and playing fish, and simply step across between boats when I need to. The boats are secured together by means of karabiner clips from Go Outdoors, only costing a few quid. I use a petrol engine when allowed (on rivers mainly), and for the larger lakes I use a Torqeedo electric which is much more powerful than a standard Minn Kota or similar. This way I can easily and safely get myself back to base should the weather suddenly turn for the worse...common sense is key, and I would never sit out on a big water and put myself or others in danger, it simply isn't worth it. It's a really great way of exploring wild venues, and has totally opened up a new dimension in my fishing. Of course it won't be for everyone, and the cost is prohibitive when buying the proper kit but if you want to do something badly enough, you'll make sacrifices to facilitate it. After all, I have binned off all of my costly UK tickets to solely fish overseas, and that saving alone has paid for my boat set-up once and for all, so I'm happy with that. All the best
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   Old Thread  #35 26 Feb 2018 at 10.15pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Piece of cake.
You want to try playing an angry trevally with an 8wt fly rod on an inflatable flip flop
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   Old Thread  #34 26 Feb 2018 at 10.12pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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**** the dog off straight over the side, more room
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Looking at that pic again, i was imagining what takes place when he gets a take, very limited space, and i expect the dog goes berserk!
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   Old Thread  #32 26 Feb 2018 at 10.03pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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done that.. but more ghetto, had a wet mat as a shelter
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   Old Thread  #31 26 Feb 2018 at 10.01pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I must say, when i was looking at their site earlier, that everything looked very well made
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   Old Thread  #30 26 Feb 2018 at 9.52pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Itís perfect for what I need it for very stable and well made

I got it direct from raptor rather than their U.K. agent as it sounded a bit iffy to me but the guys are sound and very helpful 👍
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   Old Thread  #29 26 Feb 2018 at 9.38pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Cheers mate, how you getting on with it, all good?
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   Old Thread  #28 26 Feb 2018 at 9.29pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No Iíve got the 200wide air
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   Old Thread  #27 26 Feb 2018 at 9.28pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Have had a tempest V2 over my Zodiac on a French reservoir before. Luckily the weather was calm and worked a treat, although seems this seems to be the way most are going now which is putting bank fishing on some of the massive waters overseas at such a disadvantage..

The lake i was fishing was flooded so no choice but look at the last couple of years on the likes of Orient and some of the quieter ones...
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   Old Thread  #26 26 Feb 2018 at 9.25pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Iím waiting for Nash to bring out a walkway made from liloís to get from the boat to the rods
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   Old Thread  #25 26 Feb 2018 at 9.24pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Is yours the platform type mate?
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   Old Thread  #24 26 Feb 2018 at 9.20pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Iíve got one of the raptor boats and itís quality but that fox one just looks flimsy and would probably sink on its first outing
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   Old Thread  #23 26 Feb 2018 at 9.07pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #22 26 Feb 2018 at 9.04pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I guess so mate, imagine having one in open water, anchored, with a couple of bivvyís on and all the gear. It would be like having youíre own little island.
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   Old Thread  #21 26 Feb 2018 at 9.01pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The raptors look made for the job. Iím presuming itís for making it semi easy to transport rather than a solid cabin cruiser.
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   Old Thread  #20 26 Feb 2018 at 8.58pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
The more serious ones:

Raptor Fishing Platform XL

Must be a strange way to fish, and why a bivvy on a platform, when a boat with a cabin, and room for rods might be easier?

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   Old Thread  #19 26 Feb 2018 at 8.58pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Like trying to do a hundred mile journey in a pedal powered go-kart. Its possible, but definitely not what it was made for!
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   Old Thread  #18 26 Feb 2018 at 8.50pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
This looks a bit ghetto:

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   Old Thread  #17 26 Feb 2018 at 8.23pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Besides, itís fox and thatís a recipe for disaster. Probably not fit for purpose before even leaving the shop.💩💩💩💩
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   Old Thread  #16 26 Feb 2018 at 8.17pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No thanks, Iím enough of a ****ing liability on mine. Let alone a full inflatable that Iím sleeping on, that thing would last about 3 minutes before I was letting the flares off for rescue.
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Hi Gary,

100% correct

I've fished some big waters out of boats and to be honest it was no fun at all. If you spent a week on the contraption Steve posted up the main things you would catch would be sleep deprivation and a week off work to recover. I'm all for pushing the boundaries, but some of it is getting really silly now in the name of being "carpy" whatever that is.....

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   Old Thread  #14 26 Feb 2018 at 7.16pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It might just be me but inventing stuff for the sake of inventing, will blow around like lake like a sailing ship with that big sail up.



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   Old Thread  #13 26 Feb 2018 at 6.56pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Looks like theyíve nicked the idea from Raptorboats
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I'm pretty sure even with his "limited" boating experience Josh knows you're supposed to fish from the boat and not the liferaft.........

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Heís probably got one on order
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That's one for josh I reckon...
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Oh dear...................................... not a clue........

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its ok until you push your bank sticks in.........
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Good point... it would save on the batteries though if you were heading downwind 😂
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Can you iimagine being on one when a big squall hits on a big water abroad
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It looks a fair size to be lugging about on your own as well! Is it 4.2 meters with a 2 meter bivvy part? Need a decent sized motor as well! Wish I lived in France and had enough time to fish those huge waters to warrant such an investment. Iíll stick to my little fleet of wavecoís for now..
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How about those big Dutch bivvy platforms?
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Saw this earlier and it just doesnít look right, but if I had a spare two grand floating about I may get one for some French river fishing.
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