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The river Camel has been heavily predated by otters..The BAA had a web cam on the river not so long ago ..the cam showed footage of the otter killing and swimming...
ask a member though,do you have a predation problem and they will answer no...!!
Ask Roger in the local tackle shop which is primarily game fishing ,and he will tell you that they are a menace..BAA are more worried about a small amount of escapee perch in the Camel than predation from Lutra lutra....,gotta keep the environmentalist types happy ....eh....BAA.....and brush it under the carpet..
BAA= Bodmin Anglers................
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#142 17 Feb 2014 at 2.26pm | | | |
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I asked one that question yesterday morning, he said they never have any issues with them.
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#141 16 Feb 2014 at 8.38pm | | | |
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I bet if you have a lovely salmon river and it becomes infested with otters and your salmon are suddenly becoming depleted then that is when you get a few otter hounds in.
I wonder what gamekeepers and salmon river owners do to deter otters.
i do not expect any other answer other than otters do not eat salmon so it is not a problem.
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#140 16 Feb 2014 at 7.07pm | | | |
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I was told when something miffed me big style when in my teens, by a wise old man "Don't worry what goes around always comes around - might be 2 years, might be10 years down the line, but it always does"
Up to now it has always proved to be right, and sometimes in some very strange ways! 
I would put money on the likes of the EA, RSPB, English Nature etc, etc....... having some very major problems in the coming years, with being blinded to reality with pure political correctness.
They should have learned from the past (Most of civilisation normally does, or suffer the consequences if they ignore it!)
For Otter Hounds to have been breed, there must have been a very good reason. For the Scottish to incorporate Otter Traps into Dry Stone Walls - they did not do this for sport/fun.
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#139 16 Feb 2014 at 3.39pm | | | |
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next we will be getting told to keep windows closed at all times incase they get into our fish tanks,
To me that statement graham scholey made just proves they are not interested in our side of things, they are just willing to turn a blind eye to it and let the otters run wild till there is nothing left! 
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#138 16 Feb 2014 at 2.16pm | | | |
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In reply to Post #137
exactly.....telling pple to give up keeping koi carp and keep newts and frogs...good lord how responsible is that!
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#137 16 Feb 2014 at 1.56pm | | | |
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 basically admitting there is a problem but not willing to do anything about it
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#136 16 Feb 2014 at 1.49pm | | | |
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I read this earlier today
The Dorset Wildlife Trust has issued a warning to householders about the threat and suggests one option would be to keep frogs and newts instead of expensive fish, or protect ponds with metal grids.
Spokesman Clive Martin said: ‘Otters have discovered that breakfast, lunch and dinner is provided by ponds.’
Graham Scholey, of the Environment Agency, warned that otters are protected and anyone attempting to kill, harm or disturb them can be fined £5,000 or jailed for six months.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2086794/Warning-otters-snatch-expensive-koi-carp-garden-ponds.html#ixzz2tUYhBnab
What fantastic advice hey....they cant even face up to it can they
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#135 16 Feb 2014 at 8.28am | | | |
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You will see something in the not too distant future mate...its a very complex issues and very time consuming.
one of the reasons this issue is so slow on the up take I would suspect is because its appears that its only one part of angling kicking up a fuss.....and that's carp anglers
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#134 16 Feb 2014 at 8.26am | | | |
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we bother because we care peter 
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#133 15 Feb 2014 at 10.53pm | | | |
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apathy rules until it effects them but it will be to late then i dont know why we bother
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#132 15 Feb 2014 at 7.17pm | | | |
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when will anglers see whats going on  PAG has just 8000 likes on Facebook, there must be at least 1 million carp anglers in the UK 
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#131 15 Feb 2014 at 5.45pm | | | |
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Ken Townley warned of this pending disaster in Carp World at least 14 years ago (Is it that long ago Ken!)
Stop, Jim. You are making me feel old!
But yes, it was 17 years ago that we found our first confirmed otter kill on a local club lake. Sadly it was - as is often the case - the biggest fish in the lake, one I had caught in 1979 at a (then) PB weight.
As you say, you can lead a horse etc etc...
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#130 13 Feb 2014 at 9.25am | | | |
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ive just spent the best part of 3 bloody days post bumping 250 posts in....
its graft i'll give ya that one!
do you charge day rate if materials are supplied...I have another lake to fence shortly
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#129 12 Feb 2014 at 11.45pm | | | |
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In reply to Post #128
If any lake or syndicate owners are looking to otter fence their lakes get in touch by a pm for a competitive quote cheers
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