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   Old Thread  #252 8 Sept 2012 at 3.46pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Or blood powder for the cheaper option (just as effective for that purpose)
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   Old Thread  #251 8 Sept 2012 at 3.11pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Between 5 and 10% egg albumin and/or WPC should be fine. Otherwise as he says....hookbaits only
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   Old Thread  #250 8 Sept 2012 at 2.53pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You can make hardened hookbaits by adding 10% Egg albumin.
Do this only on the hookbaits.
Soft baits are more attractive in my mind the rock solid ones.
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   Old Thread  #249 8 Sept 2012 at 2.01pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Just done a session with the BM1 that was slower than the previous one shall we say and one thing I have noticed is that they go too soft for my liking as hookbaits and invariably I was winding in an empty rig in the morning. Currently I am boiling for 90 seconds then drying for 24. I now realise the situation may have been made worse because I had then put them in an airdry bag when I got to he lake. From what I have read on here it appears that the drier the bait the quicker it takes on water and goes soft quicker?? Thoughts??

Also from my searching on here it looks like you can add Egg Albumin or Whey Protein Concentrate to toughen them up a bit.

What would you recommend for inclusion rates in the BM1 mix to get the desired effect? Also, would it be best to make up separate batches of hookbaits for the purpose or make the whole mix tougher, if you see what I mean?
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   Old Thread  #248 2 Sept 2012 at 11.24am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Dose anybody know if there is a difference between vitamealo milk powderand topaz calf milk replacement.
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   Old Thread  #247 1 Sept 2012 at 9.54pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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yes and yes
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   Old Thread  #246 1 Sept 2012 at 8.59pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I know this is not the best mix ever but as a first mix will this roll and catch fish.
30% Standard Fishmeal
20% C.L.O
33% Semo
10% Soya flour
7%  vitamealo milk powder
Cod liver oil 20mm
Molassesa     30mm
Squid & octopus flavour
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   Old Thread  #245 1 Sept 2012 at 7.47pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Just made up the first batch and I ended up using 13 eggs. Don't know if the eggs were just small but it was a very stiff mix.
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   Old Thread  #244 27 Aug 2012 at 9.16pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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2.5 % is not too much on that mix Limey.
But remember you can get usefull vits from products such as brewers yeast and kelp meal/powder
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   Old Thread  #243 27 Aug 2012 at 9.13pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Im no bait buff mate...i spoke to peter (smurf) and went with his reccomendations tbh...im a rookie learning
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   Old Thread  #242 27 Aug 2012 at 6.46pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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If you want the optimal dosage of MSG for a nutritional bait it would be zero% but in almost every bait I have made I use a heaped teaspoon in 1kg.
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   Old Thread  #241 27 Aug 2012 at 6.37pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Doesn´t 2.5% Selenavite E = 25g/kg(5 teaspoons) sound abit too much, compared to only 10g/kg of Cyprivit What´s the optimal dosage of MSG in a kilo mix ... 10-20g
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   Old Thread  #240 25 Aug 2012 at 7.14pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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almost,i added monster crab liquid,hemp oil and robin red as i wanted them more of a darker red,they wernt perfect but ive spoken to peter and hes give me a couple of pointers,it was more to do with how i rolled it and not the base mix..i really enjoyed doing it and im going to have another go this week
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   Old Thread  #239 24 Aug 2012 at 10.29pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Nice baits there. My first attempts at bait making (admittedly over 20 years ago) looked nothing like that. Misshapen sticky balls would be more accurate!

Must get round to knocking some of this up. Did you follow Smurf's exact recipe?
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   Old Thread  #238 22 Aug 2012 at 4.18pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Personally I leave them for a good 12 hours if not a little longer. Some do more some do less but 'overnight' would be a good starting point
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