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   Old Thread  #373 7 Sept 2013 at 8.25am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I am still having a problem with harder hookbaits. I have made some up with 5% and 10% Whey Gel and they are like bullets. The only problem is that once in the water they are still softening up too quickly for my liking and am never confident that the bait is still there in the morning.
Is there anything else I can try as it is only the hookbaits I'm having a problem with?
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   Old Thread  #372 4 Sept 2013 at 3.58pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No not really mate. Just stick to the BM1 or 2 and you'll be onto a winner.
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   Old Thread  #371 3 Sept 2013 at 11.51pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I have seen some recipes about I was wondering if dog kibble and chilli flakes would work as a boilie.
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   Old Thread  #370 12 Aug 2013 at 8.55am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Sorry all my stuff is HNV and to me a birdfood bait will never be HNV so I din't ever make any
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   Old Thread  #369 11 Aug 2013 at 11.12am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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cheers smurf will do! its a great mix, easy to roll and when you delve into the FLAA side, its better than 90% than some of the bait being sold out there!! my fishing buddy is using a bait made by one of the most popular who sell for 5-6 per kilo, and makes for untold online bait companies, when we compared , his had hardly any birdfood in it, very oily and seemed to be mainly semo, not being a bait buff im not sure 100% but the BM 1 looked so much better!!

As of interest, did you have any birdfoody type recipies to share? would love to tinker about with one of those too!
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   Old Thread  #368 10 Aug 2013 at 11.15pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Try making some harder hookbaits with blood plasma, wpc or whey gel. 5% of any one of these will make them harder :-)
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   Old Thread  #367 10 Aug 2013 at 6.58pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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cheers nellie, one thing i have found , i made a batch before which was great , but adding seaweed really brings out a fishy salty taste that is tops! its a very coarse mix which i love and i added only a half a ml of monster crab and half a mil of cranberry per egg, so 6 ml per 6 eggs. no sweetener. could i harden the bait slighlty by reducing the clo and adding semo ?
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   Old Thread  #366 10 Aug 2013 at 4.58pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Could eat the myself mate.
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   Old Thread  #364 15 Jul 2013 at 4.44pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I've been reading this thread with interest, and it has got my mind racing with combinations and levels.

Peter(Smurf) deserves a commission from the ingredient suppliers, and from the rest of us for abusing his kind gesture!

I have been battling (albeit on paper), with some of the variations to BM1 listed in this thread. Specifically the inclusion of both GLME and betaine.

Can anyone clarify if additional betaine levels should be lowered/omitted altogether, given the levels that GLME already contains?

Would say 50g GLME provide enough betaine to negate its inclusion separately?

Perhaps adding a half dose of betaine to the hookbaits for added atttraction?

Obviously, I am trying to avoid the repellent effects that too much betaine can cause.
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   Old Thread  #363 26 Jun 2013 at 8.25am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yes you can take the Poultry protein out and either adjust the other ingredients or like you say a 50/50 mix of fishmeal and bird food could work.

I never carried on with the development of the BM2, it was always an experiment to move away from fishmeal for commercial reasons....but the bait I make now I guess you could call the BM5 (3 and 4 soon got replaced in my bait own recipe book!) but only me and a couple of mates use it and it works very well

Having said that my BM5 is not that different to BM1....just tweaked here and there plus two other key ingredients I wanted to try
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   Old Thread  #362 25 Jun 2013 at 10.57pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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i too dont like using the poulty meal, ive used it in the past, but when it comes down to it I just like fishy baits not meaty baits o its a confidence thing with me.

I don't want to turn up on this thread and turn it into a bait company war, however just to add in response to AA baits I may look there but CCMoores have a loyalty scheme too even with the first order over 100 it goes to 5% off and goes up the more you spend plus freebies thrown in here and there so I personally may be swayed to look elsewhere but if it aint broke and all that
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   Old Thread  #361 25 Jun 2013 at 10.00pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Ill have a good trawl through that website later. Thanks. With regards BM2 could the poulty protein be swapped for something esle? As to be honest ive used it before and hate the stuff. Maybe split the 220g 50/50 between another fish meal and a birdfood?

Also while your here why do you think everyone is all about the BM1? Also any idea if there will be a trilogy or quadrilogy to the BM saga?
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   Old Thread  #360 25 Jun 2013 at 9.40pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I used to get both from charnwood milling. My local farm feed shop used to order bags from them as it worked out cheaper than buying direct
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   Old Thread  #359 25 Jun 2013 at 9.29pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Has any one got any links to a supply of micronized crushed hemp and soya meal for BM2 or is everyone on BM1?

Or any alternatives to the above?
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