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   Old Thread  #77  1 Nov 2011 at 4.44pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Don't know if Pete still comes on here. If he does I hope he does not mind me posting this for the previous poster:

OK after so many requests here are a couple of simple base mixes to base your own baits around. There is nothing clever here just simple balanced nutrition and if you take any of these as a base and then add your chosen attractors you wonít be going far wrong.

BM1 (basic HNV mix)
30% LT94 fishmeal
15% Maize Protein Meal 60% (supergold 60)
13% Egg based bird food like CeDe
10% Semolina
10% Soya flour (heat treated)
8.5% pre-digested fishmeal
8.5% Calf or lambs milk powder such as Vitamelo
5% Equivite

Depending on the exact brand of milk powder and bird food you use this will give you a bait with over 50% crude protein and about 10% oil content. Although they sound a little high it will come down if you add a few attractors to it yourself. If you really want to know the FLAA is Phenylaline, the 2nd is Methionine and the 3rd is ThreonineÖÖbut all are plenty high enough to allow the carp maximum utilisation of the protein in the bait.

I have deliberately left the solubles a little on the low side so that you can add your own soluble attractors such as Betaine, MSG, liver powder etc without the bait falling to pieces in the water after 10 minutes!

Now another mix I have played with and had some promising result on before I stopped bait development was slightly different. Lower fish meal due to increased costs and slightly higher energy was the initial goal.

BM2
22% Poultry protein meal
20% LT94
10% Maize Protien Meal 60% (supergold 60)
10% pre-digested fishmeal
10% Calf or lambs milk powder such as Vitamelo
7% Micronized Soya meal
6% Semolina
2.5% Micronised crushed hemp
2.5% Equivite

Again the crude protein level is above 50% but the lipids levels are higher. The 1st, 2nd and 3rd LAA are the same as the above mix although the balance is not quite as good. As with BM1 you can add your attractors to this. If you find it too soft (I like it that way and the attractors can just pour out) then try adding 2 or 3% egg albumin.

For a simple bait take any of these and add 20ml per Kg of good quality oil such as Cod liver or Salmon, a few ml of flavour if you want some and 8-10 eggs per Kg of base mix.


Two of the best recipes you will ever encounter...Nothing more needs saying
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   Old Thread  #549 17 Feb 2021 at 6.06pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Smurf,
Thanks so much, new to it and just didnít want to try and go at it, as I would not know if done rightly or wrongly.
Really appreciate your help.
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   Old Thread  #548 17 Feb 2021 at 12.38pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I thought it was clear '...you can add your own soluble attractors such as Betaine, MSG, liver powder etc' but to clarify
these sort of things are normally added at a few % so that's what I meant, just a few % They are normally listed by suppliers as Bait Additives.

Honestly you can use almost any flavour you like but go for quality not quantity! Lots of really good flavours available that attract/trigger carp to investigate and/or feed. What they smell like to you is almost irrelevant unless you intend to live on them whilst fishing

At the moment I am playing around with a couple of flavours from BAF baits. My pond fish really home in on them. BAF don't have a huge range so I suspect that what they do sell are the 'better' ones that they have.

The bait will work without a flavour, many have gone this route.

I would change the Equivite for 1% Selenavite these days and add a good amount of a hydro liquid
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   Old Thread  #547 17 Feb 2021 at 12.11pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Interested in the answer to this aswell
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   Old Thread  #546 8 Feb 2021 at 11.07pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Guys and girls.
Iím like so many new to this world of bait making.
This recipe sounds perfect for what Iím looking for, seems to have every base covered.
I would like a few questions answered if could ask the following :
When the author mentions soluables to be added at what quantityís?
Flavours is there a really good match that people have used, and what amount to a kilo .

Thanks guys appreciate any help on above.
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   Old Thread  #545 12 Jan 2021 at 9.29pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Long story! I sold it before I got to use it.
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   Old Thread  #544 12 Jan 2021 at 9.06am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi Sam, how did you get on with electric sausage gun? Thanks.
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   Old Thread  #543 25 Nov 2020 at 12.21pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Shout out to SMURF for being a legend 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
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   Old Thread  #542 31 Aug 2020 at 11.01am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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If I had the cash handy I would, sooner use 50 quid of the money for the electric gun on bulk base mix ingredients.
saving 5quid a kilo of bait I'm happy to gun it out by hand.
thanks for the link, will get one ordered.
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   Old Thread  #541 31 Aug 2020 at 10.53am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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If youíre going to get an electric anyway I would just go ahead and get one! Perfect for small to mid sized mixes.
Manual guns truly are a pain in the backside.

If youíre adamant you want a manual, this 600ml one looks ok-

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/114094074471
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   Old Thread  #540 31 Aug 2020 at 10.22am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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thanks sam, will pick up a manual from screw fix.
ill get all the mixes down and tested before going all out with an electric gun.

running before walking comes to mind!
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   Old Thread  #539 31 Aug 2020 at 10.21am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thereís a cheapish electric caulk gun on eBay that a few people are raving about. Costs £90 which is far cheaper than similar styled guns by the big brands.
Iíve just ordered one, will let you know what itís like if youíre interested.

If you go pneumatic then 5mix have always been great.

If you decide on a manual gun just get a heavy duty caulk/sealant gun from Screwfix/eBay or similar for around £15.
Youíll find one thatís pretty much identical the the Gardner Delux model (which they charge £50 for).
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   Old Thread  #538 31 Aug 2020 at 9.56am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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First time poster resurrecting an old thread.

dabbled in bait making a few years back and had great success but a busy job make it hard to roll enough to sustain my needs.
I have time to get back on the rolling tables and I'm looking for a recommendation for a boilie sausage gun?
I own a gardner boilie gun but I tried to get a very stiff mix through it and stripped the threads on one of the bolts.

do the screwfix foil sealant guns to the same job? obviously have to cut the nozzle down to the required size.

thanks all
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   Old Thread  #537 9 May 2020 at 6.48pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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My advise would be to stick to a proven recipe as in post 1 until you know what you're doing. Good luck.
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   Old Thread  #536 9 May 2020 at 1.23pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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hi
i am new in boilies and i need your help !
i have a recipe and i need to know if are ok or must add more or...must modify:
Mix:
Squid Meal: 200g
Prosecto: 100g
Pre-digested fsh meal 100g
semolina 100g
clo 150g
Robinred 80g
WPC80 50g
Purifyed blood powder 50g
soya flour 100g
salt 20g
chili powder 10g
GLM 20g
Betain 20g


Liquid:
Black pepper oil: 1,5ml
Squid extract 30ml
Fruit flawor: 5ml

thanks

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