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The CarpForum approved boilie recipe (602 posts / 455,374 views)
AndyClark AndyClark
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Post #202 26 Jul 2012 13:59
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can anyone confirm on the quantities of base mix stated by smurf as a 10 eggs required???
looking at knocking this base mix up...give it a go
KenTownley KenTownley
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Post #203 26 Jul 2012 14:16
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Make up the mix as detailed...use nine eggs and add the powders slowly. If you have any left over then it is a 10-egg mix
AndyClark AndyClark
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Post #204 26 Jul 2012 14:35
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thank you ken
AndyClark AndyClark
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Post #205 1 Aug 2012 15:38
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can anyone suggest any flavours that would compliment this bm1,i understand and respect that people who know alot about this subject saying its excellent as it is,however i would like to put my own twist on it,i was thinking of green lipped muscle powder.

BM1 (basic HNV mix)
30% LT94 fishmeal = 600 grams
15% Maize Protein Meal 60% (supergold 60) = 300 grams
13% Egg based bird food like CeDe = 260 grams
10% Semolina = 200 grams
10% Soya flour (heat treated) = 200 grams
8.5% pre-digested fishmeal = 170 grams
8.5% Calf or lambs milk powder such as Vitamelo = 170 grams
2.5% Selenavite E = 50 grams

2.5% green lipped muscle powder = 50 grams

do you people in the know think it will be lost in the flavours thats already in there??i understand its going to up the cost slightly,resulting in the base mix cost and price of the eggs bringing the cost in for 10kg @£4.80 per kg,depending on quantities bought i could get this down slightly.
Smurf Smurf
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Post #206 1 Aug 2012 15:45
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Thats how I used to roll it but you would be amazed how different people have slightly different technics that mean some use 9 eggs when others would squeeze in another

As Ken says start with 9 eggs, add any liquids and weigh your base mix before and after to find out how much you actually use....if you like the end baits keep making them the same way

And GLM goes very well with this mix....as do many fruit or sweet (cream, chocolate etc) flavors
nellieman nellieman
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Post #207 1 Aug 2012 15:48
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Are you trying to make 2/20kg with them levels your using?

Are you going to be using 25g (2.5%) per kilo? that seems a little low to me for the GLM. The more the better IMHO.

I always found 5%+ to be a good level to start at. I think in this quite strong smelling mix, 5% would be better to get the smell to come through.
AndyClark AndyClark
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Post #208 1 Aug 2012 16:22
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yes the mix below is a 2kg mix,i was just thinking on the costs of adding more
nellieman nellieman
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Post #209 20 Aug 2012 20:09
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Am i doing something wrong with BM2? It seems dry and splits easily between light finger pressure when its rolled and boilied. Must admit it rolls like a champ. For the distance im fishing at the moment it needs to be harder and bound tighter. Would either egg albumen, whey gel, blood plasma do the trick without compromising the nutrional value to much? Which one would you use?
SamBarley
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Post #210 20 Aug 2012 20:15
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Use some blood powder, pop some lime stone flour in to gain distance in a stick
nellieman nellieman
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Post #211 20 Aug 2012 21:04
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Why, do you think blood powder alone will be enough to bind the mix im already struggling with plus the extra limestone flour? The white plasma powder i assume you mean? Does it bind that well? Ill see if i can get hold of some. Cheers.
SamBarley
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Post #212 20 Aug 2012 21:13
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No I mean the standard blood powder, it will sort out your flaa as well, not sure how much of a problem you are having but looking at your mix you shouldn't be having lots of trouble

Are you using lots of liquids?

Maybe try wpc80 too, bare in mind both of these products are very solubole
nellieman nellieman
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Post #213 20 Aug 2012 21:24
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Horrible stuff that brown blood powder. I think i may have some of that in the shed. Its all a little irrelevent at the min, as i have lost my base mix mixer. I was mixing base 10 or 20kg a time in a brand new concrete mixer my mate (builder) had in his shed as a spare. But his old one broke, so now hes using the one i was using.

Its gonna be hard mixing base in a big bucket after using that mixer. Nothing mixes base mix ingredients like a concrete mixer.

SamBarley
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Post #214 20 Aug 2012 21:32
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Horrible but functional

That's what I use

Your mixing by hand good luck
nellieman nellieman
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Post #215 20 Aug 2012 21:54
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In reply to Post #214
Only the base mix. For now.
joe_echo joe_echo
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Post #216 21 Aug 2012 17:48
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can any one recommend inclusion rates for oil and liquid additives.

im thinking about using hemp oil minamino and red venom from cc moores
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